BOOKS BY ANANTA Welcome to Satsang with Ananta

Q: “Had a difficult incident yesterday. Was faced with a lot of verbal abuse from my mother and wasn’t able to stay as the Self.  Contracted into the person and fought back. Was having a mental disappointment at that.”

Yes. Whatever thoughts you might be believing and whatever words might be getting used, first drop the belief that you became the person. You were still only the Witnessing itself. You were still the Awareness alone and this Awareness was watching this play of Consciousness.

You see, there is great beauty in this; and let’s spend a little bit of time on this because it seems to be something confusing for many. You see? No matter what incident happens in your life, You are always the Awareness alone. This Awareness is untouched by any event. And when we refer back to memory of something of the past, then it is like referring to a dream we had last night. You see Consciousness is the only decision maker and Consciousness is one Consciousness.

It’s very good to come back into the present moment and let go of all thoughts of the past, otherwise it is a double whammy, you see? Not only does the trickster trick Consciousness itself into behaving like a person in those moments, then it tricks the Consciousness into believing that it is guilty also of something that happened in the past. That’s why I often used to say that even if anger had come, at least let go of the resentment. So momentarily, many things can arise. Sometimes it comes with such force that it just plays out in this way, isn’t it?

And some of you have witnessed that anger can arise here also. Amrita and some of you will remember that there was a policeman in Rishikesh, isn’t it, who was trying to create obstacles for Moojiji’s satsang, and so much anger arose here;  but it cannot last, it cannot stay, and there is no resentment here. It is allowed to come and go. There is no guilt also.

So every moment fresh; now, now, now; nothing, nothing, nothing.

Namaste everyone. A Very warm welcome to satsang today.

Moojiji ki jai!  I’m so happy you could join in. If this is your first time in satang, the way to ask questions is through the chat window.

Oh, Hans has been looking at the recording of Saturday satsang, yes. Namaste, Namaste.

We will not be free in the future. We will not even be free at the end of satsang. We are always free now. Freedom is always in the right now. Right now you cannot show me bondage. In the moment you are never bound. Actually it’s not even accurate to say ‘in the moment’, you see, because the moments are all arising within you; in the timeless now. You see? It’s only the personal voice which says that ‘I am almost free’.  It’s only the personal voice which says ‘Not yet’. This one that is wanting freedom is not You. This one that wants anything at all is not You. The one with desires and aversions is not You. The one who has ideas about what freedom is like… is not You. The one with preconceived notions of what freedom looks like is not You. The one with the ‘freedom check list’ is not You. And the one who is applying ‘the freedom check’ list, not just to yourself but to everyone around you, including the Master, is not You.

Welcome, welcome.

You see one of my teachers in the past had said…, I believe it was Sri Sri Ravi Shankar who said once, very beautiful…, he said ‘First you call me a Guru and then you tell me exactly what I must do’. You see? That ‘If you’re my Guru, you must be like this, you must not be like this, you must speak like this, you must not do this’. You see? So he said ‘Who is the guru then? If the student is going to tell the Guru what is to be done, then who is the Guru?’ So not only do we apply this ‘freedom checklist’ for our own self, we’re always using it for others around us, as well and for the Master also. You see? So this is like…, I believe one of you, maybe Amrita, posted on the Sangha of Being group (I missed the satsang yesterday so I don’t…, I wasn’t there), but I heard that someone asked  Guruji [Mooji] ‘Why there are so many women around you?’  What a stupid thing anyway! I usually don’t speak like this, but what a stupid thing! So we have so many preconditions even for the Master, isn’t it? Oh! The Master has started asking for money now! Oh! The Master is surrounded by many women now! All this rubbish; and it’s our own doubt, you see? It’s our own doubt which is projecting in this way.

Usually what I’ve seen is that when we have an issue or a desire or an aversion for something, we start projecting it to everyone around us.

So if we are going to tell the Master how to behave and what to do, then who is the Master actually? It is our own mind which is getting the better of us in these subtle ways.

Ok, let’s catch up on the chat.

Amaya says, “With you in spirit but will have to catch the recording.” Yes, she’s having some internet trouble today.

Loney says, “Only one thing on my list: is there a smell of a person?” Yes.

This is okay. This is like what Papaji spoke about; the vigilance. You see when my Master speaks about the feeling that, if there is a feeling that there is no arrogance here, then that can also be arrogance. So this little bit of vigilance, but not as a practice, you see, just a normal, very natural checking in once in a while to see whether the monkey mind  is back and it’s sitting on the throne or not; but not as a obsessive practice.

Life will tell us anyway. Life will tell us anyway. Because when suffering, when some resistance is coming, it is pointing you to a belief which is still carried. So life will anyway tell us. But it’s good to have this little bit of checking in. Like Loney said ‘the smelling of the person’. Where is this coming from? Is it still coming from a personal identity? Am I still referring to myself as the imagined one? You see? Not conversationally; so I don’t want any of you becoming the Advaita police and going around policing people, you see? Only in terms of just seeing; not in terms of the words which are being used, but just checking where they are coming from. Is it still coming from a personal identity of desire, or aversion, need, wanting to become something, wanting to get something? Because like we said, the ego’s mantra is: What’s in it for me? So that’s the main mantra for the ego, isn’t it?

The main mantra of the ego is: What’s in it for me?

And the secondary mantra is: Me first.

So not only is it constantly looking for something, but it also wants to be the only one or at least the first one to get there, you see? And these tendencies are so clearly seen; almost childish in a way, isn’t it? When we see Beings saying “I am free, but you are not” it’s just spiritual ego. Not only does it want this concept of freedom, it wants to be the only one that can get there. It wants a specialness in this.

Lizelle says, “He is wisdom and grace.”  Yes, of course.

Aradhana says, “Amrita had once posted also about so many women devotees/disciples around Gautama Buddha. Was a lovely article, Ams.”

I’ll have a look. I didn’t see that one.

Ustreamer52 says, “omm silence.”

And Amrita says,  (something got censored), “…said that these women were men in their previous births who couldn’t muster enough devotion like the women around Buddha, and hence were born as women just to experience such intense devotion.”

Yes, it’s very beautiful, but even this explanation is not required, you see. Even this is not required. The Master only sees pure being.

Aradhana says, “Yes, loved that story, Amrita. Thanks for sharing again.”  Yes.

Ustreamer952 says, “Anantaji, it’s <censored>.”   Let me see I can turn the censor off.  “It’s much mental chaos today. One look into your eyes and all is quiet and peaceful. Thank you.”

Namaste, Ajani. Jai.

Love you too Atma, very good.

Namaste, Shayni.

Stacey says, “Such quiet bliss to be in your Presence.”

Good. This Presence is your own Presence. Very beautiful.

Lizelle says, “Had a difficult incident yesterday. Was faced with a lot of verbal abuse from my mother and wasn’t able to stay as the Self.  Contracted into the person and fought back. Was having a mental disappointment at that.”

Yes. Whatever thoughts you might be believing and whatever words might be getting used, first drop the belief that you became the person. You were still only the Witnessing itself. You were still the Awareness alone and this Awareness was watching this play of Consciousness.

You see, there is great beauty in this; and let’s spend a little bit of time on this because it seems to be something confusing for many. You see? No matter what incident happens in your life, You are always the Awareness alone. This Awareness is untouched by any event. And when we refer back to memory of something of the past, then it is like referring to a dream we had last night. You see Consciousness is the only decision maker and Consciousness is one Consciousness.

It’s very good to come back into the present moment and let go of all thoughts of the past, otherwise it is a double whammy, you see? Not only does the trickster trick Consciousness itself into behaving like a person in those moments, then it tricks the Consciousness into believing that it is guilty also of something that happened in the past. That’s why I often used to say that even if anger had come, at least let go of the resentment. So momentarily, many things can arise. Sometimes it comes with such force that it just plays out in this way, isn’t it?

Some of you have witnessed that anger can arise here also. Amrita and some of you will remember that there was a policeman in Rishikesh, isn’t it, who was trying to create obstacles for Moojiji’s satsang, and so much anger arose here;  but it cannot last, it cannot stay, and there is no resentment here. It is allowed to come and go. There is no guilt also.

So every moment fresh; now, now, now; nothing, nothing, nothing.

Aradhana says, “Thank you, Ananta, for the right pointing. The love for beautiful stories too surrendered here at your feet. Just Beingness. Thank you.”

It’s fun! It’s fun for the stories as long as we don’t give too much reality to all of these. Yes.

Louise says, “Father noticing some thoughts are not even words.” Yes. “And sometimes it feels like just a continuous blur with no stand-out thoughts.”

Yes. Even Guruji [Mooji] speaks about this, and he says that even these energies, energy construct of thoughts, will seem to run out of words; they run out of words. And just seem like some energy is there, like a thought-energy, but you cannot figure out what they are saying anymore. This is very good actually. They’ve run out of words now and just trying to captivate you with the energy itself. As you keep letting go, you will find that you will be free from even this wordless thoughts. And we cannot really explain these things, isn’t it? Only once you see that it is happening like this, you can tell that this is what it was.

Atma says, “Yes, Father, I see you and through you I see myself.”  Very beautiful.

Lizelle says, “The whole time I was saying to myself ‘She is your Self, what are you doing?’”

Yes. But sometimes in this conflict, you see, it happens that it seem like there are two sides. One side wants to say that she is a person, the other side wants to say that she is also Consciousness. And sometimes, in this inner conflict, we seem to make it worse. You see? So if we can remember anything at all, it is to remember to let go of all thoughts. If anything is to be remembered it is just to simply let go of all thoughts; even the thought of the other being Consciousness as well. You see, but, if freedom is what is there in your heart then what you will find is that even this event, which seems so uncomfortable, you will see it to be grace because it will point you to some beliefs which are still held and they have some juice. So look for that identity. Don’t worry so much about what events occur. Look for the identity or the buttons that got pushed still, and surrender those buttons in the fire of satsang. Know that if it can still get pushed it is untrue. It is just another belief, just another concept.

Don’t look at this as an unfortunate event. Look at this also as Grace. You know coincidentally just the other day I was telling someone that ‘Mothers seem to be the best people to fight with’. They seem to be the best people to fight with because they have so much unconditional love that they cannot hold onto the resentment. They are the most helpless actually. As a parent I can say this also now, that as parents we are so helpless because we love our kids unconditionally, and it is this helplessness our true power comes from. So if you must contemplate something don’t contemplate how the events occur, contemplate what is the residual identity which still must be here which allowed the buttons to get pressed; and surrender those bits of identity now in the fire of satsang. That’s more than enough. And hence all these opportunities which we called suffering in the past are now opportunities to show us what is still held onto and can now be discarded.

Atma says, “At your feet.”  It’s good.

Ustreamer579 says, “Soundless lips move, light reflects, animation; though peacefully quiet with no sound….”  Very good.

Amrita says, “Yes”.

Loney says, “Once an astrologer told me that I would not be happy in this life. I realize that these words must have arisen from Consciousness, and maybe indicate I will not be completely free of the person in this life. Oh, that hurts so much, I have been crying so much since I heard it on the tape recorder this weekend.”

So the astrologer must be speaking to the person, and no person can truly be happy because they cannot find everlasting happiness in this ever changing concept of personhood.  See, we see that people change, because a person is what? It’s just a sum total of all your beliefs at this point. A person is only the sum total of all your beliefs at this point, and beliefs keep changing. So can we rely on this ever changing imaginary entity for some happiness? We just cannot…just cannot.

So the astrologer was talking to the person. But are you this person? Are you just the bundle of these beliefs? See, this astrologer can say this to 99% of humanity because happiness in the life of the person is just these small winds that we speak about, that the ego gives you once in a while just to keep you interested in the game. It is just keeping you interested in the game by showing you these glimpses of personal happiness.

So for this astrologer it is very simple to predict. He will be right 99.99% of the time. But he is not speaking about you, because you have seen that this person never existed. You see? So is Awareness saying that ‘I am unhappy now’? Has the Witnessing found a way to become happier and happy now? No. The Witnessing is the ever-present Witnessing even of all these forces and emotions, completely untouched even by the burning of the entire universe. If the entire universe was to burn in this moment, it would not touch the Witnessing. It could not make the Witnessing unhappy. So truly it is not about what the astrologer was referring to your Self as. What are you referring to yourself as? All of life is about you.  Very good.

Lizelle says, “Thank you, Ananta. Nothing, nothing, nothing. I will remember that!”  Yes. “Thank you, thank you.”  Very welcome my dear.

Namaste, Bhagavatji. Good.

Lizelle says, “I am in a video Satsang, laughing with Mooji, and it’s called “nothing nothing, nothing” Yes. “And you just reminded me of the Master’s words.  I love you for that.”   Love you, too.

Ustreamer579 says, “Attention and belief mixed with moods is a funny somethingness, yet one is not an astrology reading, or palm reading or tarot reading. All passing, made… (something) <censored>…, be other, it is not.”

Yes, it does not apply to you. It only applies to the character in this video game that you are playing.

Lizelle says, “I saw it was Grace because the buttons were pushed. Now it is Grace that I am able to bring it to you and find your amazing pointing. I am so grateful to you!!”

Yes. With this openness, as you go about life, see everything is just an opportunity in every moment, to find our true self. I used to say this often in satsang earlier, isn’t it, that in Chinese, in the Chinese language I believe, the word for ‘crisis’ and ‘opportunity’ is the same. So what appears as a crisis when we’re living as a person, when it is truly freedom that we desire, we see that it is not a crisis, it is an opportunity to transcend the false; an opportunity to see ourselves for what we really are. Good.

Ustreamer837 says, “Namaste, Father and sangha. Just joining.”  Welcome, welcome. Good.

Rashmi says that 837 is Rashmi. Seems to be some sort of a miracle, but good. She’s on two computers, I know, I know!

Vivi says, “Namaste! At your feet.”   So good to have you.

Zoe says, “Big fear and feeling of being very unsettled came up last night”. Yes. “And I saw that it was a fear of change that I have held all my life. Was hard not to run away but I sat with it; and it dissolved.”  Beautiful. That’s a beautiful report. Very good.

When something is coming up we can just let it come, and know that if it has come, then it will go. In our resistance it stays. Good.

Aradhana says, “Yes. Moms (parents) are the best punching bags, blotting papers, shock absorbers, grounding agents, security blankets…”  Yes. It’s very beautiful, isn’t it?

Zoe says, “Laying any remainder at your holy feet.”  It’s so beautiful.

Don’t convince anything in life to make a person out of you. You see what I’m saying? All this will come in the maya, and maya will try to make a person out of you. These thoughts will try to make a person out of you. But you can never become just this mere person. You can only pretend. So my work would have been difficult if actually you were able to become a person. Then I would actually have some work to do. But because I know that all of you are only pretending, and some of you are still pretending, therefore my work is the easiest. All I have to do is say ‘Show me: Where is this person which you are referring to yourself as?’ And I know that when you look, this game is over.

It’s almost like we started playing this game as children, you know when we were playing this game of ‘doctor, doctor’ and somewhere along the way, the game became so much fun that we forgot that we are playing ‘doctor, doctor’. Then one of us said ‘Enough of this game, who am I, really?’ And saw that this doctor was just an imagined identity we took on to play. You see? And this one who figured it out first, seemingly first, is now trying to shake everyone out of this game: ‘Just look, just look! You are not the doctor. We started playing this game, but now it’s over. You’re crying too much in this game. This game is no longer fun’.

You see?  So a Master will never try to shake anyone who still seems to be having a lot of fun in the game; in the ups and downs of the game they seem to be having a lot of fun.   So the Master will not try to shake those out. It only try to shake the ones who are saying that ‘I’m tired of this, it’s too much suffering here’.  And to say ‘You’re not really this one, you’re not really this one. We started playing together a long time ago, but now I found when I looked that I was never this, and that is why I am imploring you also to look. Were you ever this identity?’ And I know for a fact that you were not, because I was not and it’s the same.

Stacy says, “Thank you for that beautiful pointing about how mothers are the best to fight with”. Yes. “I surrender any identification left in relationship with my mother in this holy fire at your feet.”

Loney says: “Thank You, Ananta. This person doesn’t exist, and awareness is completely untouched; even by astrology.”  Definitely by astrology!  Very good.

And Loney says, “Just needed to expose this banana-thought, because I started to believe it so much.”

Yes. It’s very good that you brought it to satsang and burnt it.

You see, this seems to be…, this is the first time I am hearing this, but…, this seems to be like a multi-million dollar idea, isn’t it? You should become an astrologer like this and tell everyone that you will not be happy; 99.9% success you will have. You will be the most successful astrologer. Just tell everyone that ‘Even if happiness seems to come, it will not last; you will not be happy’. Tell me, as an astrologer, will you not be a massive success in this world, in this realm of humanity, where so few are really seeming to look for the truth? It’s so funny.

Louise says, “Father, many times I have found myself crying like a child from arguments with sisters. They are all many years older and I feel there are emotions not even conscious with them, as they must have been created as a small child, before they all left home.” Yes. “It’s a good place to see what is not even conscious. Family I mean.”

Yes. It’s very good to see this; and we can in this way have compassion for them. We can have compassion for them; but always remember also that: If there was no person here, then there is no person anywhere. Although in our close relationships that is difficult to do. And very easily we seem to drop the idea that there is a person here, but remember that there is no person there also. And in this remembering you will not get the feeling of a sense of specialness or a spiritual ego or something like that.  You see? It is very good.

Hans says, “Thank you for now, Anantaji. I will leave you to your self now.” Thank you so much. Very good.

Cornelia says, “Astrology can tell when this person ‘me’ will die, but I am never even born.”  Yes.

It cannot refer to you as Awareness. What prediction can you make about Awareness? You see? The only thing you can ever say about Awareness is that ‘It is aware’ and that’s not much of a prediction, is it?

Loney says, “Why am I still pretending to be a person when I want freedom so much, when the taste of pure Presence is so sweet, when life without person is so fresh and beautiful?”

And for this we have the simple answer for you: Just let go of your next thought right now! That is it actually!  Because it is only the person who says ‘Why am I still pretending to be a person?’ You see this trick? It creates a journey out of nothing. Just let go of your next thought, and show me the person. Can you do that?

Rashmi says, “So beautiful you are, Father.”  You too, my dear. Good.

Jyoti says, “Yes it is difficult in close relationships.”

Yes, but now see that as you’re letting go of your thoughts, don’t give the idea of difficulty also. For you, you can see that this was true but now it is let go of.

Zoe says, “Even while sitting with these strong emotions, it felt a little ridiculous for Consciousness to pretend to be fearful!”  Yes.

Ok, so let’s look at this also a little more closely. Because we say that Consciousness is the one doer, maybe sometimes this kind of confusion can come. So what is happening is that Consciousness is the light through which this movie is being projected. Now if the content of the movie is less than pleasant, does that mean the light is actually affected in any way?  You see? So the light is just playing this game. Can you say that Being is touched in any way by any of this content?  You see? So because this light is the only thing which is projecting the movie, we can say it is the one doer. It doesn’t mean that it is involved in this in any real way. It’s only projecting this person idea also for itself to enjoy. It doesn’t mean that it is actually touched by something. Only in satsang, in joke, we can say that ‘Consciousness is suffering’…, something like that, say, or ‘Consciousness is fearful’. It actually doesn’t mean anything.  Because if Consciousness actually had the ability to become any of these things, then we will all be in big trouble actually. It is just pure Being itself at the core; just that the movie is playing out like this, the appearance is playing out like this. You see, I hope this is… I know it’s a little bit subtle, but I’m sure for you, it is clear.

Louise says, “Father I mean it is a very good place for us to see what is unconscious in us…”

Yes. Very good. Still something which is left to be transcended. Very good

“…when family pushes our buttons.”

Yes. And therefore this seeming-suffering now becomes an opportunity. Exactly. Very good.

“They seem to be able to push the deeply unconscious buttons, which is good.”

Exactly. Isn’t there so much gratitude because of this? That’s why somebody had posted once that ‘If you start believing that you’re enlightened, spend a weekend with your family’. They’ll show you all the buttons which still can be pushed. It’s very good for our arrogance, it’s very good.

Naomi says, “Thank you, dearest Anantaji, just what I needed to hear. There is no person interacting with the negative words said by others, especially ‘family’.”

Yes. It’s very good. There is no person. No matter what the event, no matter what the appearance is, there is never any person here.

Lizelle says, “This is the most amazing Satsang.  Thank you, Aanantaji & Sangha.  I feel so much love for you all.”  So much love to you too. Very good.

Zoe says, “Laughing, laughing, laughing, tears! Ever yours, beloved Father.” Same, same my dear, very good.

Very good. So unless there are some burning questions we can spend five minutes together in silence.

Loney says, “When I try to let go of the next thought, of believing the next thought, I seem to think even more thoughts.” Yes.

Don’t try anything at all, be completely open to all thoughts. All of us can do this now. The moment are all arising within you is the timeless now. Now we can be completely open to all the thoughts; let everything come. Don’t have any sense of resistance at all. You see? Don’t have any resistance at all to any thought coming. Just let them come and let them go. Don’t give it your belief. Attention might still go to them and it’s okay initially if attention goes. Just don’t give it your belief. No matter what it is saying, don’t invest your belief in it. Be completely open and natural. Don’t make a practice out of this. This is your natural state. This is the effortless state. This is the end of effort. This is the end of sadhana, this is the end of practice. Just let all thoughts arise and go. Don’t even be concerned about how many are coming. Let them come and let them go. You are not the thinker of your thoughts. Thoughts are just appearances which are coming and going.

Ustreamer885 says, “So happy to be here now. Thank you, Ananta / sangha.”  Thank you so much for being here. Very good.

Naomi has to leave. She says that her connection is failing. “Much love.”  Much love to you too.

[silence]  I love you, too.  [silence]

Thank you all so very much for being in this beautiful satsang.

Moojiji ki Jai! So much love to all of you.

May the Master’s grace continue to guide your every step.

Thank you. Thank you so much.

Thank you, Prema.

Sangha:  Moojiji ki Jai !  Anantaji ki Jai !  Thank you. Love you.

‘Just let it go’ does not mean we resist anything.

Let everything appear, and just let it go.

Allow everything to come and allow it to go.

This is the true meaning of detachment.

Detachment does not mean that we become uncompassionate or unloving.

Detachment only means that we allow all appearances to arise and to dissolve.

Just let it go.

Whatever is coming up, just let it go.

[Silence]

No appearance means anything to you.

Just let it go.

[Silence]

No state defines you.

Just let it go.

[Silence]

You are not in the body or out of the body.

Just let it go.

[Silence]

No emotion is yours.

Just let it go.

[Silence]

All sensations are coming and going.

Just let them go.

[Silence]

Nothing can stick to your Being.

The pure Presence is ever untouched.

That you are affected by any appearance is just imagination.

In this letting go, pure Presence is here.

Nothing needs to be done.

No state needs to be attained.

You are already the Self.

You are the Self alone.

Om Shanti Shanti Shanti

Simply let go of your next thought.

This is freedom.

Freedom is always in the right now.

There is no such thing as future freedom.

And how to find this freedom right now?

Simply let go of your next thought.

[Silence]

These words arise from this thoughtless space of pure intuition.

[Silence]

These are the words of your own heart.

That is why this is a journey from the head to the heart.

If there is a journey, there is a journey from the head to the heart.

Let’s go deeper into the silence again.

The simple pointing, let go of your next thought.

All thoughts are allowed to come and to go.

But we do not give our belief to any of them.

Even if attention goes to them, it is okay.

Just don’t give them your belief.

[Silence]

Now let go. Now let go.

[Silence]

The world including your body is moving on its own.

Let go of your thoughts.

[Silence]

No matter what comes, you cannot stop being now.

[Silence]

This Being is God, it is Guru, it is Consciousness.

[Silence]

It needs no effort to find this Being. You cannot stop being.

[Silence]

Drop all effort by simply letting go of your next thought.

[Silence]

The One that brought you here, is taking you home.

The home that you never left.

[Silence]

Just let go of your next thought.

This is peace. This is joy. This is freedom now.

[Silence]

Your Holy Presence blesses the universe.

Nothing is missing.

Nothing is to be found.

You are forever free.

The untouched Self.

[Silence] Om Shanti Shanti Shanti

[Namaste]

We’ll stay in this. Stay in ‘Satsang’.

Stay in the ‘letting go of your next thought.’

It is the simplest pointing, but more powerful than any sadhana.

May Moojiji’s Grace continue to guide you all in this way.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Namaste everyone. A very warm welcome to Satsang today. Moojiji ki Jai.

Thank you all very much for joining in. And if this is your first time in satsang, the way to ask questions is through the chat window. Very good. Namaste, welcome. A very happy birthday, dearest Rashmi. So much love to you.

Zoe says, “Only able to be here for twenty minutes today Father, but I’ll keep you in my heart.”  Yes. [Smiles and gazes lovingly into camera]

So, today unless there are some strong burning questions, maybe we can keep it mostly in silence? What do you feel?

[Ananta reading responses] Yes. Very good, so most of you are good with the silence idea. And I can aid the silence a little bit, with the simple pointing, ‘Just let it go.’

And ‘Just let it go’ does not mean we resist anything. Let everything appear, and just let it go. Allow everything to come and allow it to go. This is the true meaning of detachment. Detachment does not mean that we become uncompassionate or unloving. Detachment only means that we allow all appearances to arise and to dissolve. Just let it go.

Whatever is coming up, just let it go.

[Silence]

No thought is important. Just let it go.

[Silence]

No appearance means anything to you. Just let it go.

[Silence]

No state defines you. Just let it go.

[Silence]

You are not in the body or out of the body. Just let it go.

[Silence]

No emotion is yours. Just let it go.

[Silence]

All sensations are coming and going. Just let them go.

[Silence]

Nothing can stick to your Being. The pure Presence is ever untouched. That you are affected by any appearance, is just imagination. In this letting go, pure Presence is here. Nothing needs to be done. No state needs to be attained. You are already the Self. And you are the Self alone.

Om Shanti Shanti Shanti

And if your eyes are closed, you may gently open them whenever you are ready.

So we’ll stay mostly in silence today. So I won’t read everything that you typed. I just want to welcome Omvati. So wonderful you are here. So great to have you with us.

Yes and Jyoti said, “Your mentioning that you are untouched by emotions really helped.”

Yes. Just the same way that we are now able to let go of the energy of thought, we can now let go of the energy of emotion as well.

So for those of you who joined in a little late today, just want to repeat that we said we would be mostly in silence. Unless someone says they have a strong burning question.

Simply let go of your next thought. This is freedom.

Freedom is always in the right now. There is no such thing as future freedom.

And how to find this freedom right now? Simply let go of your next thought.

[Silence]

These words arise from this thoughtless space of pure intuition.

[Silence]

These are the words of your own heart. And that is why this is a journey from the head to the heart. If there is a journey, there is a journey from the head to the heart.

Let’s go deeper into the silence again. The simple pointing, let go of your next thought. Which only means that all thoughts are allowed to come and to go, but we do not give our belief to any of them. Even if attention goes to them, it is okay. Just don’t give them your belief.

[Silence]

Now let go. Now let go.

[Silence]

The world including your body is moving on its own. Let go of your thoughts.

[Silence]

No matter what comes, you cannot stop being now.

[Silence]

This Being is God, it is Guru, it is Consciousness.

[Silence]

It needs no effort to find this Being. You cannot stop being.

[Silence]

Drop all effort by simply letting go of your next thought.

[Silence]

The One that brought you here, is taking you home. The home that you never left.

[Silence]

Just let go of your next thought. This is peace. This is joy. This is freedom now.

[Silence]

Your Holy Presence blesses the universe. Nothing is missing. Nothing is to be found. You are forever free. The untouched Self.

[Silence]

Om Shanti Shanti Shanti [Namaste]

And if your eyes are closed, you may gently open them.

Let me read some of your messages.

Atma said, “Yes Father, feeling it right now. Exactly what you say. At your feet.” Very good.

And Loney said, “Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti. Thank you, Ananta, for this God-Given Satsang”

Aradhana says, “Thank you, at your feet, beloved heart of the whole universe.”

Cornelia said, “Thank you, Father, for your darshan.” Very welcome.

Atma said, “Thank you, Father. Such beautiful powerful Satsang.”

And Prema said, “Forever free…, untouched Self. Thank you, Father.”

Good. Ananya says, “Thank you for your Presence, Father. Feels like the first Satsang.” Yes.

Ustreamer439 says, “Thank you, Father, at your feet.”

Naomi says, “Absolute beauty to be in silence. Your Presence is felt here, beloved.” Very beautiful. Good.

We’ll stay in this…, stay in Satsang. Stay in the ‘letting go of your next thought.’ It is the simplest pointing, but more powerful than any sadhana.

Wiebke says, “Was so aware of ‘the one guy’ saying that ‘I am not able to surrender.’ Yes [Laughing]. “And in that instant moment, realizing that surrendering in is my pure nature.” Yes. “Thank you so much.” Yes.

This is very beautiful, because like we said, ‘Surrendering is not an action. Is a realization that I was already surrendered’. Good.

So we won’t speak too much today. Just stay in Satsang. So much love to all of you. May Moojiji’s Grace continue to guide you all in this way.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Moojiji ki jai! [Namaste]

Sangha: Moojiji ki Jai! Anantaji ki Jai!

Just so much freedom available right now in the letting go of the next thought. Then all past is gone. Just by letting go of the next thought, all past is gone. Also all worry about the future is gone. All me is gone. All you is gone. All knowledge is gone. All ignorance is gone. Just in the simplicity of letting go.

What else do we need to know?

What else is required to be seen?

You see how much of the false is picked up just in belief in one thought, and it could be a common thought. The thought which is very common is ‘Why did he do this to me?’ You see you pick up a simple thought like that and say ‘Why did he do this to me?’ Do you know how many lies are there in this one thought? First it presumes that there is a ‘me’ that is separate. Then there is another ‘he’ which is separate. In actuality there is nothing but the Being itself, the one Being.  So it creates this you and me. It creates a me and he, you see? First it lies in this way.

Then it says ‘Why did he do this?’ as if he is a separate doer; as if it is not Consciousness who is the one Doer of all of this. You see? And then it says ‘…do this to me’ as if something can de done to you. As if something can be done to you. Show me this one to whom something can be done. And why? ‘Why did this one do this?’ has a ‘why’, which means the mind can pretend to understand why any of this actually happens. You see in this one simple thought there are five, six lies. Every single piece of it is a lie. Why would you want to pick it up? And yet, because of habit and conditioning, we very quickly pick up this kind of thought: ‘Why did he do this to me?’

Q: “Is there any nonsense of mine that you don’t want? Because I got a glimpse today that if I could give everything to you, there would be nothing left here to suffer.”

This is what I’ve been asking for. Give me everything. Everything is mine actually. This is surrender; surrender without the worry of even the outcome; without even the worry of the outcome of ‘how life should be’ after the surrender. Because you have already now surrendered the one who is interested in the ‘content’ of life. Otherwise it is only a ‘half’ surrender, saying that ‘Okay, now you become the doer’, but there’s still a ‘person’ here who is an independent experiencer.

It is already mine. None of what you’re holding back is in service to you.

[Smiles lovingly]

In this Pure Awareness, on Emptiness or Nothing, as Ustreamer716 was saying; in This, in the Waking state, you will always see the Presence of Being is here. And you don’t have to work hard to find this Being. Many seekers spend many lives trying to find this Presence of Being. But it is the simplest thing. Just in the simple question ‘Can you stop Being now? ’ it is seen that Being is ever-present in the Waking state. And this Being is Consciousness.

So in Pure Awareness itself, made up of Pure Awareness itself, a different form of Awareness is the Beingness or Consciousness. That’s why we say that in the Pure Seeing, rises this Pure Being. They are actually One. And then, in the light of this Pure Being, the entire world of phenomenal existence comes; but even as a phenomenal existence, the ‘person’ does not come. You see, I know I repeat this very often, but it’s very important; even in the phenomenal existence the ‘person’ does not come.

The body can appear, but the problems we refer to are not the problems of the body. The body is not sick of knowing something, and the body does not want Freedom also. So we’re referring to ourselves as this fictional entity, which does not appear in phenomena also. That’s why we say ‘This is a 2^nd level delusion’. So we’re lost in the story of this 2^nd level delusion; not truly lost, but we pretend to be lost. Satsang is rehab from this 2^nd level delusion, for God Himself.

Q: “My husband says if there’s no sad, there’s no happy, there’s no anything.”

So sad and happy will continue. You see? So what’ll happen is that pain or even grief, or joy or bliss, all these in the world of duality, in this world of duality these appearances will always continue. You see? All this will not stop. But you will not identify as the sufferer, as the one who owns this experience.

You see, experiencing will still continue. Nothing can stop the experiencing. So the experiencing will continue but the suffering, which is a by-product of this experiencing, which is secondary suffering, which is only through belief in thought…, that will not continue. We do not suffer through our pain. We do not even suffer through our emotions. We only suffer in the belief in the entity, that I am this separate sufferer. Belief in the entity, that I am this separate person who should or should not have this pain.

Without a judgment about the pain there is no problem with pain; without a judgment, even with grief. So sometimes strong events seem to happen in life and strong grief can come, tears can come, you see, but it will not stay, it will not be something which becomes a part of us. Because the one which was holding on to all these experiences of mind, that one is gone. So every moment is now lived fresh, fresh, completely fresh, with no mental residue of the past, no mental worry about the future, everything is fresh.

So if I go to a doctor and the doctor says ‘You need an injection’ and he’s putting the needle inside, there will be pain. There will also be that ‘ouch’. But we will not believe thoughts like ‘Oh, maybe the doctor should have used another needle’ or ‘Why did I come to this doctor?’ or ‘I should have taken better care of my health, it’s all my fault’ or ‘It’s all my wife’s fault’ or it’s somebody’s fault; all this nonsense will be kept aside. It will be seen to be exactly what it is, just another appearance. And in this way, moment to moment, fresh, full of wonder, life will continue.

It’s very good you asked this question, because the mind will paint this picture for us which is to say that ‘This means, if I am letting go of my thought then this means I am in some vegetative state’ or some, you know, what in India is called ‘nirvilkalpa samadhi’ or some state where all this is experience is missing. It is not true. In fact, completely in the moment, you see, there is so much joy in the experiencing.

So there is this Buddhist practice, I don’t know if any of you have tried it, but they call it the mindfulness practice and the practice is that even if you are eating a grape you’re completely with the grape, fully in that moment with the grape, and when you taste it for the first time with this full mindfulness it will seem like it is the first time you are tasting anything at all. Because usually what happens is that half our attention is in our thoughts, we’re thinking or planning something about the future, all this is happening and along with that we eat. So then even the experience if the moment is not present there. This is the state of complete freedom which allows all experiencing to happen. It is not a limbo state. The mind will try to scare you. Why? By painting these examples, saying ‘Oh, you’ll become just like a robot or you’ll become like you’re in limbo state’ or something like that. It’s all rubbish actually.

Namaste everyone. A very warm welcome to satsang today. Moojiji ki jai!

Namaste, welcome. And f this is your first time in satsang, know that the way to ask questions is through the chat window. So happy to have all of you with us. Welcome.

Namaste. I feel to read a very funny Facebook message today, a Facebook status…which I posted on my wall also after that. Ani [Facebook post] said, “Ok, letting go of the next thought, regarding previous thoughts believed in, before the next one comes along, in service to making too much of any of them.” [Laughs and nods.] “Ok, letting go of the next thought, regarding previous thoughts believed in, before the next one comes along, in service to making too much of any of them.” [Laughs]

Yes. There’s something very nice in this, isn’t it? And here I was feeling that it is the simplest pointing. Actually it is [Smiles].

Oh, 328 is Shanti, ok.

Just so much freedom available right now in the letting go of the next thought. Then all past is gone. Just by letting go of the next thought, all past is gone. Also all worry about the future is gone. All me is gone. All you is gone. All knowledge is gone. All ignorance is gone. Just in the simplicity of letting go. What else do we need to know? What else is required to be seen?

You see how much of the false is picked up just in belief in one thought, and it could be a common thought. The thought which is very common is ‘Why did he do this to me?’ You see you pick up a simple thought like that and say ‘Why did he do this to me?’ Do you know how many lies are there in this one thought? First it presumes that there is a ‘me’ that is separate. Then there is another ‘he’ which is separate. In actuality there is nothing but the Being itself, the one Being.  So it creates this you and me. It creates a me and he, you see? First it lies in this way.

Then it says ‘Why did he do this?’ as if he is a separate doer; as if it is not Consciousness who is the one Doer of all of this. You see? And then it says ‘…do this to me’ as if something can de done to you. As if something can be done to you. Show me this one to whom something can be done. And why? ‘Why did this one do this?’ has a ‘why’, which means the mind can pretend to understand why any of this actually happens. You see in this one simple thought there are five, six lies. Every single piece of it is a lie. Why would you want to pick it up? And yet, because of habit and conditioning, we very quickly pick up this kind of thought: ‘Why did he do this to me?’

Namaste.

Rashmi says, “Father, there has been some sadness here and just realized that the sadness actually can’t be found. That the sadness can’t be found. All this while it was the mind saying ‘there is sadness’. Sometimes the mind can be so subtle.”

Yes. Like we say, let all emotions arise. All emotions are free to arise. Just let go of the interpretation about them. If it was just the emotion there would not be this label also of sadness. There is no need to label an emotion also. By labeling we are saying that it means something to me.  And even if we find that, okay, we believe the label about it, then can we find the ‘me’ whose emotion it is? This one is always fictional. So the mind is always referring to us as this fictional entity.

Simple? Is there is anything which is not understood? Is there anything which feels too abstract or difficult to get? Because the attempt from here seems to be to keep things very simple and straightforward. Very good.

Shanti says, “Thank you so much for this simple pointing. The only thought left is ‘I am letting go of this thought’.”   Yes [Smiles.]  “But somehow it lets go of itself.”

This is also very beautiful what Shanti says. You see? ‘Let go of your next thought’ can be something like a pointing which has some utility, so it is a thorn which is kept for a while, while we remove the thorn of conditioning. And then we see that automatically, automatically, this is our natural state to let go. It is our natural state to just let go. And then you will find that to pick up a thought seems so much hard work. Many of you are seeing this already, isn’t it? You are seeing already that if you were to follow down, go down the path of believing a thought, it’s just immediate misery. It is truly an ‘anytime misery machine’.

Rashmi says, “Yes.”

Zoe says, “Mike says if there’s no sad, there’s no happy, there’s no anything.”

So sad and happy will continue. You see? So what’ll happen is that pain or even grief, or joy or bliss, all these in the world of duality, in this world of duality these appearances will always continue. You see? All this will not stop. But you will not identify as the sufferer, as the one who owns this experience.

You see, experiencing will still continue. Nothing can stop the experiencing. So the experiencing will continue but the suffering, which is a by-product of this experiencing, which is secondary suffering, which is only through belief in thought…, that will not continue. We do not suffer through our pain. We do not even suffer through our emotions. We only suffer in the belief in the entity, that I am this separate sufferer. Belief in the entity, that I am this separate person who should or should not have this pain.

Without a judgment about the pain there is no problem with pain; without a judgment, even with grief. So sometimes strong events seem to happen in life and strong grief can come, tears can come, you see, but it will not stay, it will not be something which becomes a part of us. Because the one which was holding on to all these experiences of mind, that one is gone. So every moment is now lived fresh, fresh, completely fresh, with no mental residue of the past, no mental worry about the future, everything is fresh.

So if I go to a doctor and the doctor says ‘You need an injection’ and he’s putting the needle inside, there will be pain. There will also be that ‘ouch’. But we will not believe thoughts like ‘Oh, maybe the doctor should have used another needle’ or ‘Why did I come to this doctor?’ or ‘I should have taken better care of my health, it’s all my fault’ or ‘It’s all my wife’s fault’ or it’s somebody’s fault; all this nonsense will be kept aside. It will be seen to be exactly what it is, just another appearance. And in this way, moment to moment, fresh, full of wonder, life will continue.

It’s very good you asked this question, because the mind will paint this picture for us which is to say that ‘This means, if I am letting go of my thought then this means I am in some vegetative state’ or some, you know, what in India is called ‘nirvilkalpa samadhi’ or some state where all this is experience is missing. It is not true. In fact, completely in the moment, you see, there is so much joy in the experiencing.

So there is this Buddhist practice, I don’t know if any of you have tried it, but they call it the mindfulness practice and the practice is that even if you are eating a grape you’re completely with the grape, fully in that moment with the grape, and when you taste it for the first time with this full mindfulness it will seem like it is the first time you are tasting anything at all. Because usually what happens is that half our attention is in our thoughts, we’re thinking or planning something about the future, all this is happening and along with that we eat. So then even the experience if the moment is not present there. This is the state of complete freedom which allows all experiencing to happen. It is not a limbo state. The mind will try to scare you. Why? By painting these examples, saying ‘Oh, you’ll become just like a robot or you’ll become like you’re in limbo state’ or something like that. It’s all rubbish actually.

Namaste. Jayani says, “Namaste, Father. Internet issues here.” It’s good you are here. It’s good.

Atma says, “True.”

Ananya says, “Hello Father. Let me see if I am able to put it properly.”  Yes.  “Life shows us at every point what we are still holding on to.”  Yes.  “Is it Consciousness itself playing like this? Deluding itself as an ego and presumably holding onto an identity and then freeing itself again. Correct me if I am wrong.”

Yes. Yes. It is Consciousness itself. Another name for Consciousness is Life, you see, another name for Consciousness itself is Life. So it is Consciousness which is playing out in this way.

That is why many Masters say to experience the transcending of this falseness. It creates this delusion and then creates the voice of the true, the true intuitive voice which frees itself from the delusion. But all there is is this Consciousness itself. All that appears is this Consciousness itself. And the eternal Witnessing of this Consciousness is what we truly are, the pure Awareness itself. Yes. So we say that Consciousness is the one Doer and the one Experiencer. Therefore who else could be doing it if it is not Consciousness?

Ajnani says, “Experience will go on without experiencer, without reporter.”

Yes. There will not be this entity found called experiencer or separate entity, or especially not this reporter or interpreter found. Very good.

Namaste.

Clare says, “Throwing all analysis of life and death in the fire of satsang.”

Very good. Yes. Too much of this question in of life and death also means interest in the future. And it takes us away from the present now, the ever-present now. This is very good that you throw it into the fire, it’s very good. And in this surrender, actually, all answers are available. Spontaneously, automatically, all insights will be found. Very good.

Jyoti204 says, “Namaste Anantaji.  Jyoti here. Dr. Kanchan’s sister. Arrived in US last night.”

[Smiles]. Oh. So happy to see you in satsang. Wonderful. We were just seeing some photos the other day and I was telling Garima that this one has now gone to the US. And she is not very Internet savvy, or so it seemed. So wonderful you are here. Very happy to see you. Good.

Atma says, “Wow.”

Ananya says, “Thank you, Father.” You are very welcome.

Jyoti says, “Me too.  Was waiting. Logged in last night at 10pm.”

And what time is it there now? And some of you here who are new, you might realize that my voice actually reaches you almost a minute after something is read on the chat because there is a lag on the video.

[Jyoti], “It’s 4:30 am.”   So wonderful. [Gazes lovingly at screen, smiling.]

Actually Stacy also today said that she has to wake up at 4am for satsang. So maybe we’ll see if we can do something about satsang timings for the US. I’m very happy you are here. Good. [Smiles].

Ah. Jyoti says, “No, it’s perfect. Brahmi muhurta.”

Yes. The auspicious time. Brahmi muhurta is the auspicious time from 4 am to 6 am; in the Indian tradition it’s supposedly a very auspicious time. So sweet of you to say that.”

Ah, Louise says, “Father, struggling this minute with Anger. Everything is built around avoiding or controlling this anger. None of it works. There is some question about this anger, but cannot word it.”

So can we look at it together now? You say struggling in this minute with anger. So if you were to drop the struggle there would be this strong anger, just be with that anger, let’s be with it together and then tell me what is happening.

Just drop the struggle. Let it come strongly. And then you can report what is actually happening. Even your body could be shaking, you see, with this anger; it could be really strong, it could be very uncomfortable. Don’t try to control it. In our attempt to resist something, it persists. All that is required is to not believe a thought about it. And if the anger is about this pointing about not believing a thought about it, then I can give you a different pointing right now. You can let me know. You see, but the struggle must come from trying to control or repress, or saying that this anger should not come to me. Let me see if Louise has said something else, and then we’ll catch up with the other questions as well…

[Silence. Gazes lovingly.]

Louise says, “Sorry Father, I don’t know what you asked.”   And even I have forgotten now. [Laughs.]

Yes, the question was Can we let go of the thought? Can we let go of the thought around this anger that ‘I should try and control it’ or ‘It should not become too much’? Because in trying to control this anger it becomes only stronger. Or it gets repressed, which is bound to explode on some other occasion. So if something wants to get released, then it can get released. Now we’re saying that if the anger is for the pointing ‘Let go of your next thought’ then we can give another pointing for the moment.

So we’ll just give it a couple of minutes to see what’s happening…

Ok, so Louise says, “Cannot think or communicate, sorry Father. Maybe come back later.”   That’s fine, take your time. Let’s look at the questions we missed…

Ustreamer716 said, “Namaste. I am sick of knowing things. Who is this one? Seems like it is Consciousness in the shape of a person. Awareness isn’t sick of anything… everything brings identity back to gazing at this timelessness.”

Very beautiful. Yes, this one that is sick of knowing things does not exist. It is only fiction. It is pure imagination. So right now if you were to say ‘Can you find the one who is saying this?’ you will find that it is not there. But what is here? What is here? There is this pure Presence of Beingness which is here, isn’t there?

This Consciousness that you said: ‘…so Consciousness can actually only pretend to take the shape of a person’. But actually it can never take the shape of this person. So it’s like the other time last satsang when we discussed: Does the person ever actually arise? No, it is only a presumption. It is only a pretense. It is only that because there is this voice of thoughts which is speaking like a person’s voice, we presume that there must be a person there. Actually there is none. There is no thinker of thoughts. There is no feeler of emotions. There is only pure Being itself which is the one Doer of all of this.

And as you said: ‘Awareness isn’t sick of anything’. You see? So there is Awareness even of this play of Consciousness. All this play can happen where Consciousness itself is pretending to say that ‘I am sick of something’ or not. See, that is the game. But now, through your question, I can see that you are ridding yourself of this game. You are tired of playing this game. So stop playing. Stop playing. Stop playing right now. What is here in this present moment? And we’ll wait for you to answer.

Yes. Ustreamer716 says, “In this moment I am Here as nothing.”

But is it a negative nothing? I agree that it is a ‘no thing’. There is not a phenomena that you are, you are ‘no thing’. But is there a sense of nothing, as in negative nothing? Is there any lack in this nothing? Just because you are no thing, does that mean that you are missing something? Is there anything missing in this no thing? [Gazes lovingly.]

Very good. So Ustreamer716 says, “No, not negative, not positive, just here, peace is here, nothing/everything.”  Very good.

So from this nothing, you see that you are this nothing. Can you stop Being now? Can you stop Being now?

And all of you can see. Can you stop Being now? [Long Pause Gazing Lovingly]

Clare says, “No”

So in this Pure Awareness, on Emptiness or Nothing, as Ustreamer716 was saying; in This, in the Waking state, you will always see the Presence of Being is here. And you don’t have to work hard to find this Being. Many seekers spend many lives trying to find this Presence of Being. But it is the simplest thing. Just in the simple question ‘Can you stop Being now? ’ it is seen that Being is ever-present in the Waking state. And this Being is Consciousness.

So in Pure Awareness itself, made up of Pure Awareness itself, a different form of Awareness is the Beingness or Consciousness. That’s why we say that in the Pure Seeing, rises this Pure Being. They are actually One. And then, in the light of this Pure Being, the entire world of phenomenal existence comes; but even as a phenomenal existence, the ‘person’ does not come. You see, I know I repeat this very often, but it’s very important; even in the phenomenal existence the ‘person’ does not come.

The body can appear, but the problems we refer to are not the problems of the body. The body is not sick of knowing something, and the body does not want Freedom also. So we’re referring to ourselves as this fictional entity, which does not appear in phenomena also. That’s why we say ‘This is a 2^nd level delusion’. So we’re lost in the story of this 2^nd level delusion; not truly lost, but we pretend to be lost. Satsang is rehab from this 2^nd level delusion, for God Himself.

Shanti says, “Dear Father, there is a seeing of this personality which appears sometimes and takes on a life, but it is seen; and I have no more control over it than I do the weather. It is not who I am and it does not affect me.” Yes

We can say it like that. It is seen that the ego is arising. It is seen that the ‘person’ takes over. But actually they’re not seen. Because they don’t exist phenomenally. It is only when Consciousness itself seems to give belief to some thoughts, and starts pretending to be the ‘person’, do we say that ‘the ‘person’ arises.’ And there’s still only Consciousness. This individual, separate entity just does not arise. And it’s very beautiful what you say that ‘It is seen that it’s just this play of this personhood and it is allowed to let go of ’. Very good.

Jayani said, “Father, identification with body has been arising. Giving it all to you, beloved. It was yours anyway. Just thought it was ‘mine’.” This is very beautiful. [Smiles]

I’m happy with this kind of gift, because it signals your Freedom.

Rashmi says, “Throwing absolutely everything in the fire. Everything that is not true, Father, burn it all.”

Only the ‘false’ can get burnt. And only the ‘false’ can suffer actually. So if you just look at all that is suffering as the ‘burning of what is false’, then you will see that all of this is super-easy. And we accept our own suffering also, as Grace. Because it is pointing us to some idea, a false idea that we have picked up, and believed; related to a separate identity which is not here. That’s very good.

Clare says, “Throwing all mental projections about any future into the fire of satsang. I’ve just seen that I’ve been attached to this energy.”   Very good.

That’s why we’ve kept it really simple. We’ve kept it really simple, isn’t it? All this just happened automatically. All that is required, seemingly, is to let go of your next thought. You see? Just let go of your next thought. All happens in this.

Clare says, “I’ve been attached to this energy in a lot of ways; all futures and pasts, to rest at your holy feet.”  Very good.

Rashmi says, “Even the trying or the not trying to involve with thoughts…, everything into the fire Father. All is yours now.”

Letting go is not even a ‘doing’ actually. It is not effort. The effort is to actually ‘become’. Letting go is not effort. The effort is ‘to pick up’. So stop all effort. Drop all effort. Drop all doing. See what is here now. That’s all.

Clare says, “I’m starting to get what you say about Consciousness. Thank you for all your words. They’re sinking in. Consciousness arises within.”   Much love. Very good.

Nobody should make an effort to understand any words in satsang. Don’t make any effort at all. The words will work on their own. This is just Consciousness speaking with Consciousness. No ‘personal intervention’ is required. And if you feel you control your attention, you can keep your attention in satsang, and the rest will happen on its own.

Aradhana says, “Wholeness within this <censored > lack.”

Ajnani says, “In this moment, only awareness.”

Clare said, “This being is without end.”

Zoe said, “In lucid dreams I would try so hard to cling on to this sense of being as I was waking up…, not realizing that while awake I cannot NOT be this Being!” Yes. [Laughs]

Was wondering why you were clinging on. Because you get the sense ‘I Am now. I better not lose it. Better not lose it. The Being is here. I better not lose the Being’. Without the Being, what would you Be? Can you stop Being now? Yes, but this trick can be played and it’s good that you’ve seen through this now. Trying so hard to Be the Being, but what else could we Be? Can we become ‘something else’? Can we stop Being?

Jayani says, “So Seeing is Being?”  Yes, ultimately, yes.

In the deep sleep state there is only Seeing. There is no Being; not even enough to say ‘I Am’. The sense of Being is also not present in deep sleep. But when we wake up we’re able to say ‘I experienced deep sleep’. So there’s an ‘experiencing’ or an Awareness of even deep sleep, isn’t it?  So from this Pure Awareness itself, then it is Seen that this Awareness is ‘all there is’. And if Awareness is ‘all there is’, the Being must also come from this Awareness itself. They’re inseparable. Inseparable.

So jokingly, we can say that Being is the child of Seeing. But Seeing is not the child of Being. So the Absolute, if there is such a term we can use, is Pure Awareness itself. And even Consciousness is born inside this.

Clare says, “Thank you. Please can I give you all my identification with my body as well?”  Yes.

All your thoughts, just give them to me. You don’t need to separate, segregate, to say ‘this is good’… ‘this is bad’. All your thoughts are my problem now. All concepts, beliefs; just hand them over. I know just what to do with them. [Chuckles]

Louise says, “There is just this big story around anger. Identity as it…, Seeker formed to get rid of it. And now a story of fear to just let it be there.”

It’s a very beautiful way of how this search seems to have started from the ‘personal’ identity and wanting freedom from this ‘personal’ identity. And how the ‘person’ itself becomes the ‘seeker’ identity in the search of this Truth. And now a story of fear to just let it be there.

No need to fear anything at all. You’re in satsang now. I hardly say like this but ‘You are in satsang now’. That means you are in Shiva’s presence. You are in Arunachala’s presence. No fear, no vasana, no tendency can survive this satsang. It is not a ‘person’ Ananta who speaks these words. All of this will be nothing for you. All will get burnt in the fire of satsang. Very good.

Let’s see, Zoe says, “Is there any nonsense of mine that you don’t want? Because I got a glimpse today that if I could give everything to you, there would be nothing left here to suffer.”

This is what I’ve been asking for. Give me everything. Everything is mine actually. This is surrender; surrender without the worry of even the outcome; without even the worry of the outcome of ‘how life should be’ after the surrender. Because you have already now surrendered the one who is interested in the ‘content’ of life. Otherwise it is only a ‘half’ surrender, saying that ‘Okay, now you become the doer’, but there’s still a ‘person’ here who is an independent experiencer.

It is already mine. None of what you’re holding back is in service to you. [Smiles lovingly]

Louise says, “All stories, Father; the last one being the one that still had some juice, but some distance now.”

This will not last. Either our vasanas will last, (or if you don’t know the meaning of the word vasanas, either our Tendencies will last) or satsang will last. Both will not last. If satsang is here, I can tell you that none of this will last. All these stories will be gone. That’s why we say that ‘If you can’t stand the heat, then you must stay in the kitchen of satsang’. Because in satsang, all this will be burnt away. Very good.

Atma says, “Thank you, Father, for your constant Presence.”   Thank you, too.

Soham says, “It is very true that letting go is non-doing. Doing is picking up thoughts, but we usually are not aware of this doing.”

Yes, if we take that heavy bag example, isn’t it? We’re just so used to carrying the heavy bag that we don’t realize it anymore. We’re carrying the weight of this person, and we don’t realize it anymore.

[Soham], “Once aware of this doing, it becomes clear.”  Yes, very good. Beautiful words.

Shanti says, “Thank you is my heart’s response to this auspicious and beautiful meeting with you.”  Mine is also the same. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.  “and this Sangha of Being Father.”   Yes. Beautiful Sangha.

Clare said, “Laughing.”  Thank you.

Ajnani said, “Yesterday I noticed that there is no need to talk about ego because there is not any ‘I’ as Consciousness even.”  Very good.

Jayani says, “Just lost you, probably when you answered my question.”

It plays out like this. And something probably knows that you know the answer already. But it’s good that the question got exposed. If there’s something that still remains, then you can write to me, or we can look at it next time as well.

Jayani says, “Nothing can ever survive satsang because nothing ever was.”

Shanti says, “Your gaze is so powerful. Nothing but The-Almighty-Beyond is there.”

Clare says, “Everything”

Ustreamer716 says, “Giving everything at your feet.”

Amaya says, “Giving you everything continuously.”  Thank you so much, my dear.

Jayani says, “Tears and laughter, Father.”

Shanti says, “Love this Presence which comes with such blessing and touches so beautifully the essence of who I am.”   What beautiful words. All of you are becoming Rumi’s now.   “What Grace! What Joy! Jai Satsang!”

Rashmi says, “How can I thank you, dear Father. Love you so much.”   Love you too my dear.   “Your presence is enough.”  Thank you, Shanti.

Wiebke says, “OMG  So much love. Everything I was holding back I give to you, too.” So much love, my dear. Very good.

Rashmi says, “All of you Beings are so precious. Love you all so much.”  Very good.

Soham says, “Love you so much, Father. May we always be in your heart, as your heart.” Amen to that.

Bhagavatiji says, “Laying everything at your feet that isn’t True; at your feet, beloved Anantaji.”  So much love, my dear.   “May it be burned by the Holy Spirit, let nothing else remain.”    It shall be so. It already is. Very good.

Jayani says, “You are my heart. Only This. Gratitude beyond words.”   Thank you so much.

Kapil says, “It’s so easy. Be in satsang. Give everything to Ananta. So easy. Thank you.” Very welcome, my dear. Very good.

Louise says, “Thank you Father. No words for the love of this surrender.”  Very good.

Bhagavatiji says, “Beautiful Sangha of Being”

Yes. This is the Master’s gift. This is Moojiji’s gift. The beautiful Sangha of Being.

Thank you. Thank you, Amrita. Shanti, thank you. Ajnani, thank you. Clare, thank you. Bhagavatiji, thank you.

And Zurim says, “Much love, Father. Let me be at your feet forever.”   So much love.

Prema says, “Thank you beloved Father”   Very welcome.

Jayani says, “Love you, Father and Sangha.”   I feel to read every message.

Zoe says, “Tears flowing freely here…, so much love…, thank you a million times over.” So very welcome, and thank you too.

Ajnani says, “Jai”

Clare says, “Thank you Mooji.”   Yes, thank you, Moojiji.

Wiebke says, “Thank you so much!!!”   Thank you.

Amrita says, “You are Moojiji’s gift to us.”   Yes. Thank you.

Om says, “Jai Ananta. Jai Mooji.”

[Namaste. Bows forward]

Thank you all so very much for being in this beautiful satsang.

Moojiji ki Jai.  [Namaste and blows a kiss]

Sangha:  Moojiji ki Jai !  Anantaji ki Jai !  Thank you. Love you.

Namaste everyone, a very warm welcome to satsang today. Moojiji ki Jai.

Thank you all very much for joining in. And if this is your first time in satsang, the way to ask questions is through the chat window. Namaste. Namaste. Namaste. Welcome, welcome, welcome. [Beautiful, silent gazing into the screen]

What would you like to speak about today?

Ustreamer215 says, “Coincidence.”

Ustreamer215 would like to speak about coincidence. The simplest thing to say about it is that there is no such thing. What do we call a coincidence? We call it a coincidence when two very unlikely things seem to happen. Like we spoke about yesterday, just the thought of an old friend coming from nowhere that we haven’t met in many years, just this thought seems to come from nowhere, and in the next 10 minutes, this person seems to call us. And we were saying that if you were to calculate the mathematical probability of such an event, it would be one in a very large number, one in a trillion, one in a zillion. Completely next to impossible actually. But we see in one lifetime, many such events seem to happen. But the mathematical probability is next to zero, next to impossible, you see? So all these so-called coincidences are just basically pointers to show you that there is a Supreme Intelligence which is running this Universe; it is showing you that Grace is running the Universe, that Grace is God’s will. Actually if you were to just look around, even without coincidences, you would see that all of this must be Grace, and there must be one Supreme Intelligence which is doing all of this. Yeah?

Take a simple example. Say we take a simple example of evolution. And I find it really funny; I find it really funny that people say that if you believe in evolution, it means you are anti-God; that you’re against God if you believe in evolution. How can that be? Because all the information about a particular species must be stored in some Supreme Intelligence for it to be able to evolve it in the next generation of that species. What is changing the genes and chromosomes which seem to create the body? You see?

So now we’re speaking at the phenomenal level; ultimately we understand that all is just a projection of Consciousness itself. But even at the phenomenal level, there is such a beautiful Intelligence which seems to be running the entire Universe. So the Presence of God is actually everywhere; the Presence of God is actually your own Presence which cannot be left behind. The Presence of your own Being. So now when we are speaking of God everywhere, we are speaking of your own holy Presence. Is there ever a point where the Being is not present? Is there any experience possible without first you being? You see? And in the light of this Being, all this appearance is happening.

And coincidences, so-called coincidences, are just ways to show us that there is something deeper than what is apparent when we just look at life through our senses; that there is a deeper Intelligence in play here, which is all-knowing. And in knowing this, there is so much trust, and we stop trying to control our life. We stop inventing a need to invent a person who has to control a life. It is then dropped. And we trust this Consciousness itself to be doing everything.

Namaste, Namaste.

Kapil says, “Please say something about the spiritual heart.”

Yes. That’s a very good question, and a very good clarification also. So when we refer to heart it is different than how the world typically refers to heart. You see, when the world typically refers to heart, they are saying that ‘I follow my heart; I’m not driven so much by my mind’. They are usually referring to their emotions. Their emotional center is what they are calling ‘heart’. So if they feel emotionally strong about something they will follow that direction. If they feel emotionally negative about something, they don’t go in that direction; and for them, that means following the heart. But is not the heart that we are speaking of.

The heart that we are speaking of is exactly what we were talking about before this question, which is your own Spiritual Being, the Presence ‘I Am’. This Consciousness, this God, is what we call the Heart. And then when we say ‘We listen to the voice of this Heart’ then that means we are talking about the voice of Intuition itself; which is qualitatively different from the voice of the mind or the voice of the ego. And if some of you are new: In what way is it different? It is that the voice of Intuition is accompanied by the Presence of Peace; it is accompanied by the Presence of Peace, Love and Joy. But something from the mind is accompanied by the presence of need or grasping, you know, a kind of desperation energy is there. So when we refer to the spiritual Heart we are talking about this Holy Presence I Am itself. Very good.

Ustreamer215 says, “The word popped in my head. [‘coincidence’]. I looked up the definition and found it funny.”  Yes.  “And you expressed how I feel.”   Very good.

Namaste. Wiebke says, “Ananta, here a question was arising ‘How is it possible to believe a thought?’ Without the idea of separation it is not possible, no? There is an idea of a ‘me’ who is taking a thought and makes it his own somehow. Could you say something more on this?”

Yes. Even the sense of ‘me’ was initially believed in, isn’t it? Like a child does not have a separate concept of a separate ‘me’. A newborn baby does not realize that there is a separation between what is appearing and the body; there is no concept of a separation in the baby. And then what happens, when conditioning starts, the parents are saying ‘This is your hand, this is your name, you must be like this’. Then it is seen that by around 2 ½, 3 years old the child has imbibed this idea of separation, because it has been conditioned into it; it has been conditioned into this belief. So even this initial sense of separate ‘me’ is a conditioned state. It is not the natural state. That is why it is said that after we discover our true Self, we become like babies. Even Jesus had actually said that ‘Only the babes will enter the kingdom of heaven’. You see? I’m paraphrasing, so I might not have used the exact quote, but basically the idea is that the innocence of a child, of a baby, which doesn’t even know the difference between itself and anything which is appearing for it.

So this sense of separation, this sense of ‘me’ as a separate entity, as a person, is what is called ego. And then what happens, then what you said is that further beliefs are attached onto this concept of separation, to this ego; that ‘I  must be good, I must be a good parent, I must be a good child, I must be good at my work…’  All these concepts are then imbibed into this core identity of separation, of there existing a separate ‘me’.

So then…, that’s why in satsang we go after the root, the root itself of this separation. We say ‘Who are you?’ Because most of humanity has not looked at this: Who am I? Because the conditioning was so strong ever since childhood, we just presumed and took our parents’ word for it, and then our mind’s word for it, that there must be a separate person here who I am. But we never looked and checked. Most of humanity has never looked and checked.

So, there are two approaches, isn’t it? In some paths, what would happen is you would look at each concept which is believed in, and go after each concept; which could take a long time, and then after removing a concept, it somehow seems to reappear. So there are many paths like that.

But there is also this direct path. Advaita is the direct path to see, at the core, is there a separate ‘me’ at all. And once it seen…, like you said…, once it is seen that there is no separate ‘me’ at all, then these concepts, these thoughts, have nothing to latch onto, because the core identity itself has dissolved.

Also what happens is that when we don’t believe a thought, then the identity is getting dissolved anyway on its own. When we let go of the thoughts, then there is nothing …, (since) this false identity always needs a nutrition of new thoughts and new concepts. Without that, it does not survive. The truth does not need any support, it does not need any concepts. Only the false needs concepts.

So if you were to be concept-less right now…, that’s why we say ‘3-2-1 Drop It!’ In this simple pointing, if the concepts have been dropped, then no other teaching is required; no other pointers are required. Be without any concept right now. This is what is meant by saying ‘Be completely empty’. So, when my Master uses the words ‘Be completely empty’ this means ‘Be completely concept-less’. Be without a concept, and then the truth will be automatically experienced; as a living experience, and not a concept of the truth.

So I hope that answered the question. But if there is something more, we can look at that; you can type more.

Cornelia says, “Anantaji, in the pure Seeing arises the pure witness, or the witness is the pure Seeing? Thank you.”   Very good question. Thank you. And then Cornelia says, “Why am I so anxious and trembling starts when I put a question?”

Yes, it can happen like this, it is okay. Some resistive forces can come, just before some clarity is going to emerge, some fear can come, some fear can come of lack of approval… Hm? It is very good that you can keep these aside, keep the anxiousness aside, and just expose the question. Very good. This is for all of you; because I know this feeling of fear of  ‘What about…, How is the reaction going to be? Is there going to be approval for this question, or is it going to seem like a very basic question which it seems you should already know by now?’ So all of this can be kept aside. It’s a very good question, let’s look at it.

Cornelia said ‘Ananta, in the pure Seeing arises the pure witness, or the witness is the pure Seeing?’ So, we said that there is a pure Seeing. There is a pure Seeing. So in your question, this is apparent, that there is a pure Witnessing. There’s a pure Seeing or a Witnessing. So we use the word Witnessing or Seeing or Awareness inter-changeably. You see? Awareness is the word which causes least confusion. Because when we talk about phenomenal experiencing through the senses that is what we call ‘Seeing’ sometimes. But there is a Witnessing even of this seeing, isn’t it, that something phenomenally is being experienced. And there is a Witnessing that this is happening through the senses. You see? So when we say ‘pure Seeing’ or ‘pure Witnessing’ we are usually referring to the pure Awareness itself.

‘So in the pure Seeing’ your question is, ‘arises the witness?’ Actually the point we make is that there is no ‘witness’. There is only pure Witnessing. It’s only the concept of a witness. So initially what happens in satsang is…, because it seems like too much of a leap sometimes to say that you are the Witnessing alone, we start by saying ‘Just be the witness of all that is appearing’.  ‘Just be the witness of all that is appearing’, initially we say like that sometimes. And then, after some rest in the witness state seems to come, there’s more clarity, more thoughts are let go of, then we say ‘Is there really a witness there? Or isn’t it just the pure Witnessing itself?’ And then we look for an entity called ‘the witness’ and we see that actually there is no ‘witness’ here, and I was never an entity; I was only a verb, I was Witnessing itself; I was never a thing. See, Awareness is not a thing. It is just the pure Witnessing itself. So, actually, the witness never arises, it is only presumed. And this presumption we can now leave behind. The person entity is a presumption, the witness entity is a presumption, the seer entity is a presumption, the seeker entity is a presumption. Okay? There is no witness actually. Good.

Namaste. Wiebke said, “Thank you, Ananta. With asking this question, somehow a kind of earthquake is taking place in the body.”

Yes, it can happen. Let these energies get released like this. Don’t feel like this earthquake should not happen. If it is happening in the body, just let it get released and thrown out. Let it get thrown away. Very good.

Cornelia says, “Thank you, Anantaji. So much love.”  So much love to you, too, my dear.

Very good. Shinein says, “Very clear tonight, like still water. Thank you.”   This is very beautiful.

Naomi says, “Can you say more about energy arising in the body? It seems so much is said about the energy. Much love and thank you.”   Yes.

Actually, we must not speak too much about the energy because it is not that relevant. It is just another appearance. All energetic forms are a projection of this pure Consciousness, pure Beingness itself; even the energetic form of thoughts arises in the Presence of Being itself. So, there can be the energetic form of thoughts, there can be an energetic form of emotions, there can be an energetic form of pain. And energy is just a label that we use. So, I prefer to say that thoughts are just an energy construct, because that is the way it is perceived here. But you might say it is the voice of the ego. Whatever terms feel most comfortable to you, it can be said like that. So we say all this play of energetic constructs; it could be thought, it could be memory, imagination, feeling, pain…, all this is seen as energy here. It seems like some movement, energetic movement of some forces.

But I don’t want to dwell too much on the energy arising in the body, because there are many spiritual paths which have to do with these primal energies like kundalini and chakras; all of them. But ultimately all of them are just appearances. So the message actually is very, very simple. I’m very happy you asked this question because the message is very simple, that no matter what energy is appearing, don’t believe any interpretation about it. Don’t resist any energy; let it all play out. Just don’t believe any interpretation about it. Don’t even label it as good, bad, painful, anxious. Don’t give it any labels whatsoever; don’t believe any labels about it at all. All is allowed to come and go.

If there is something else in the question that you wanted to ask specifically, you can ask.

Naomi says, “Very clear, thank you. Dropping interpretation of the mind.”  Very good.

[Long silence, looking lovingly into camera].

It’s so beautiful to see all of you…, in a few satsangs, I can sense that there is so much clarity that has emerged for so many of you. I can also sense that now most of you are running out of questions to ask. Isn’t it? [Long silence].

Yes. Lizelle says, “Yes.”

Shinein says, “<censored> words here.”

Ajnani says, “Yes. So much clarity.”  Very good.

Prema says, “Yes, Father.”

Dee says, “Yes.”

Zoe says, “Questions come, but don’t have the need to say them.”

Yes, that means they don’t have the strength now, they don’t have the power now to seem important.

Louise says, “Namaste, Father. Louise and Lucia…”  Lucia! Oh, how wonderful. So good to have you in satsang. Very good.

Denan says, “Yes. Even confusion is recognized as just a thought. Once dropped, all is at rest.”  Very nice.

Cornelia says, “The play with the body is to perceive everything but not identify with anything.”  Yes. It can be said like that. Very good.

Adam says, “Yes. Very clear. Thank you.”   Very good.

Shinein tried again, but the first word got missed out. Let me try to turn the censor off…

Lizelle says, “Still a thought ‘This is not enough. I am not enlightened yet’.”  Yes.

So enlightenment is, as my Master says, the distance of this thought. When we walk down this thought, and we believe it ‘I’m not enlightened yet’ that means bondage. When we let that thought go, then there is freedom here, complete freedom; because freedom or enlightenment is always in the now. That is why we made it completely simple, isn’t it? We have only said ‘You want to be free? Just let go of your next thought’. I don’t feel that there is a simpler way to say this. You are free now. And you can only pretend to be bound, and this pretense can only be through the belief in your next thought. See?

The truth is that there is only freedom here. You can only pretend to be bound by believing the thought. In the NOW, can any of you show me how you are bound? Right NOW, without having to refer to a thought about the past, or any projection of the future, show me how you are bound right in this moment. So don’t pick up even this thought ‘I am not enlightened yet’. Because the mind’s version of enlightenment probably means that some state should come, or some fireworks should arrive. But it is not that. It is beyond all states. It is very good that you are able to expose this. And I know that many of you still believe this thought that ‘I am not enlightened yet’ or ‘I am not free yet’. And this thought itself is the seeming-bondage; I say ‘seeming’, see? Not real.

Bhagavatiji says, “Beloved Anantaji, thank you so much for the clarity. Pain is energy, too.”  Yes.  “Sitting with you with Nirmai, who wants to ask a question but has none.”  Welcome, Nirmai, welcome.

This ineloquence [struggles a bit over pronunciation] is very beautiful. See how ineloquently I said ineloquence? [Laughs]. This ineloquence of not having the words is very beautiful. And don’t worry if the words are not coming up, because the Presence of satsang does everything. The Presence is enough. That’s very good.

Shinein says, “Everything is welcome. This is not stained.”  Very good. “Much love.” You too, my dear.

Lizelle says, “I don’t believe the thought anymore, but I feel different in the Presence of certain great ones and I don’t feel like that is the case here.”

And this feeling, in the Presence of the great ones comes from where? It comes from your own Presence actually. And as you marinate in this non-believing of thoughts, you will see that this feeling is arising only because your own Presence is becoming clearer. And in the Presence, the physical presence of a Master, it happens that all other distractions are kept aside, and what is here is allowed to shine. It is allowed to shine in the holy Presence, and the feeling of joy, the feeling of bliss emerges from within you, in celebration actually of your own Presence. It is actually showing you that what is outside as the Master is actually inside. This is your own true Heart actually. Your own true Heart.

Kapil says, “Thank you, Lizelle, for the above statement. I can see that is so present here as well.”   Yes.

You see, in the right now, you are ever-awake. You cannot stop this wakefulness, you cannot stop this Awareness actually. So it is for the seeming-others to proclaim whether you are free or not. You will see that there’s no need to proclaim here for any kind of freedom; because freedom means that it is seen that everything is already free. Everything and everyone, the entire Universe, is ever-free. You see?

But you’re right that, this inner Satguru, when there is openness but still the faith is not strong enough in the inner-Master, then this Master appears, seems to appear, as the appearance of a seeming-person outside. But if it’s a true Master then his message will always be to ‘Find me inside your own Heart’. You do not need to run here and there to find me; truly find me in your own Heart, and then we are one, actually. And we are already one actually, but then it is seen that there was never any separation. The imagined separation then vanishes.

Lizelle says, “The beauty of your answers astound me, Anantaji.”   It’s your own Presence which is bringing out these words. “Thank you so much.”  Yes.

Wiebke says, “After asking the question, the question arose ‘Who is asking this?’ and the answer came in immediately. Just pure Beingness.”

Yes. The Beingness, the Consciousness is the one doer; and the one experiencer. Very good.

Lizelle says, “Smiling. Shanti.”  Very good.

Louise says, “Love you, Father.”  I love you, too, my dear. I’m so happy Lucia is here. And we must do something about her internet, isn’t it? [Laughs].

Cornelia says, “You are always in my heart.”  Same / Same, my dear.

I’m out of words, actually.

[Laughs]. Zoe says, “Must go now, Father. I feel so unbound, that maybe I can fly. I won’t test this theory, though.  Much love.”   So much love to you. Good.

Yes, there is so much spaciousness which is felt. Even when we are walking, it feels like our feet are not on the ground. Just feels like we are floating through space.

Adam says, “Feeling blessed to have found you, Ananta.”  Very beautiful.  Same / Same, my dear.

Kapil says, “Same here. Love.”  Same / Same.

Louise says, “Lucia sends her love to Father.”  So much love.

Prema says, “Just love here, Father. Our hearts are one, always.”  Yes, this is true.

Lizelle says, “Same / Same.”

Ajnani says, “Namaste, beloved Father. Problem with chat, but here with you. So much love.”   So much love to you, my dear.

Wiebke says, “Amaya couldn’t stay because storm causing bad connection.” They’ve been having some storms in Hawaii.

Naomi says, “Also feeling blessed to have found you. A thought of the mind, of course, is how did we all land here in the sangha?”  Yes. “And quickly dropping that, and noticing the power of pure Awareness is magnetic.”  Yes.

We started satsang today by saying that there is no such thing as a coincidence.

Shinein says, “Can you speak a bit about ‘knowing’ itself, without the knower, or being the knowing itself?”

Knowing is a sort of a chameleon word. It’s a sort of chameleon word, so let’s look at what are the different variations we can have when we say ‘I know something’. The most common way to say ‘I know something’ is to say I know something mentally or intellectually, that I know something logically through the mind; that I have an intellectual knowing of something, I know the answer. Like somebody says ‘What are the continents on the world?’ I can say ‘I know the continents’. It doesn’t require an experiencing of the continents. It is only a mental knowing. So this is the first type of knowing; the word is used in this way.

The second type of knowing is knowing through Being. And this knowing is the being-present itself. So it is seen that there is the Presence of Being, and this is the first phenomenal knowing, the Presence of Being: I know that Being exists. So when we say ‘Can you stop being now?’ we know that this Being is unstoppable. So this is the first phenomenal knowing; the true experiencing of the primordial phenomenon. The purest knowing, if we can say that way…, the purest knowing is Awareness being aware of itself. So when we say ‘Are you aware now?’ what is seen to answer this question? No phenomena is seen; not even a Presence is felt. The sense of Being is not felt. It is just pure Awareness itself. And it is clear that this pure Awareness, this pure Witnessing is aware of itself. So this is what we talk about as the knowing of our own true Self.

So it can be a knowing of objects or intellectually knowing something; it can be knowing of Being, like you asked, that there is Awareness of this Being; and then there is the knowing of the knowing itself, or the awareness of the Awareness itself. That’s why I don’t use the word ‘knowing’ so much because it is easily confused.

Shanti says, “Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti, Ananta. Shanti, sangha. This is shining Shanti.” Good.

Cornelia says, “The pure Witnessing is aware of itself. Thank you, Father.”  Very welcome.

Shinein says, “Thank you.”  Very welcome, my dear.

[Long silences with radiance of Presence looking into the camera throughout this satsang. These transcripts cannot convey Ananta’s eyes, smile, Presence of Love, Peace, and Joy.]

Aradhana says, “No words, Ananta. Just being in the grace of your Presence here.”  Very good.

Ajnani says, “All night I did not sleep, but still colors seem so bright and I feel so alive.”  Very beautiful.

Cornelia says, “It is a point of no return, where all started and all ends.”   Yes. That is the pure Awareness itself.

Thank you all so very much for this beautiful satsang today.

[Namaste]. Moojiji ki Jai!

Sangha: Moojiji ki Jai !  Anantaji ki Jai !  Thank you. Love you.

Namaste everyone, a very warm welcome to satsang today. Moojiji ki Jai.

It’s the simplest thing. To realize your Self is the simplest thing. Notice that the mind will try to say that ‘You’re not there yet. You need something else that has to be done. Maybe I haven’t understood properly. Maybe I’m just fooling around. I’m faking it’. All this nonsense is only from the mind.

Ananya [In person guest] says, “Creates an image of all of this.”

Creates an image of how it should be, hm? Of what Self-realization should look like.

Don’t buy into any of this rubbish. I know that we are only the Self; even when we’re pretending only to be the ‘person’. I know that only the Self exists. If I was to give a sense of reality to your false beliefs of personhood, then it’s like the blind guiding the blind. Therefore, you might also find me sometimes seeming to be unfeeling and without compassion or something, because many times I’m not able to relate to the personal challenges which you point out. I just say ‘Go to the core of this’ or ‘Find out who you really are’. And, I know that sometimes it might feel like I’m not being compassionate or it might feel like I’m not really understanding what the problem is. But it’s not true because I have understood the problem. I have understood the problem completely.

There is only one problem: It is only our belief in our separate individuality or personhood or ego. That is the only problem ever.

If I were going to speak to you…, and sometimes it arises that way and that is okay, but if I were to just speak to you from the personal perspective, then I would be just like a ‘life coach’. [Laughing] So, what would happen is there are so many life coaches who can tell you how to make the person’s life better, or at least they can try. But I don’t feel I’m a life coach actually because I have no inputs about how to run your life. I know that you’re not running it anyway.

If the feeling comes that ‘the Guru should be like a life coach and should tell me about how to handle particular situations in life’ then the Guru, actually, is not the best person to turn to for that. Because his advise always, always will be: ‘Who are you really?’ Maybe not as bluntly, but eventually getting to that point very quickly. You see?

This ‘misconception’ in personhood is the only thing that heals us actually. The only ailment is this false belief in the ego. And this is why Advaita is relatively unpopular. There are so many spiritual movements with millions of followers, you see, but it is more attractive because it seems to be offering some advice on life or life events. Here, we have no advice for any life events, isn’t it? [Smiles] We’ve seen that it is getting directly to the truth of what you are.

I find it is impossible for me to under-estimate you and then plan my words to something that you believe yourself to be. That is why the pointing will always be to the direct Truth. Because, if I were to under- estimate you and say ‘Okay, this one, there’s too much belief in personhood, so maybe I should dial it back a little bit, tone it down a little bit…’ It’s just not possible here, you see, because I have to speak the Truth as I see it. It must come from the experiencing which is happening here of the Truth. And no words can actually match up to this experience of the Truth. But the attempt for me in every conversation is, even if we are speaking for five minutes, that I feel that you can completely get the living experience of your own true Self in that five minute chat.

I would rather have only these kind of conversations. And I know most of you have seen this, even if you are pulled to me with something which seemingly you’re here for of a personal nature, very quickly it gets to ‘personhood’, it gets to ‘Self’, it gets to ‘Consciousness’. I know it can be very frustrating sometimes, like this. ‘Why isn’t he listening to my problem?’ ‘Why isn’t he listening to my problem?’ is a thought which is… It never happened with Ananya, she says. Good. So, I know that it can happen sometime like this; that ‘I ask about the particular problem that I am facing but he’s talking about Self.’ It can seem like that to the mind, isn’t it? ‘My question was about ‘x’ but he’s answering his [inaudible]’. That is the way it is playing out here.

There is no ‘person’ here who is in control of what is being said. There is no ‘person’ here who can control the content of these words. There is no ‘relator’ of any sort. There is no preparation of satsang. There is no idea of what is going to be said in the next line. It just flows. I feel that it is in this kind of flow that the transmission or the darshan of Truth can happen.

If there is some openness, I have the utmost belief that, with a little bit of openness, just in a short chat, all that you have been searching for can be made very clear. But if it becomes only about convincing your mind about something then it can be a lot of satsangs before the mind has now been completely defrosted and opened.

So, all of us must first have clarity on what is it that we really want. What is it that you really want? If it is just an intellectual understanding, just a mental knowledge to add to your knowledge that you want, then you might find that satsangs are very frustrating. But if you want complete clarity on your own true Self and to experience it, then that is always available here. In any instant, it is completely possible. That is my only interest, if we can use a word like interest. That is my only interest. And actually, I’m completely unconcerned about it, because I know that you are already, already the Self alone. So what is there to get concerned about?

I got a beautiful note today from Stacy. And I’m not sure whether I’m supposed to share it in the open like this, but it’s coming up so I presume it’s okay. And she said that…, and I’m paraphrasing; I don’t have the note in front of me. She said “It’s such a beautiful pointing, ‘Just let go of your next thought’. And, I really feel that, in this simplest approach, there is no suffering that can survive. And when no suffering survives then the Truth will become completely apparent. Very simple. I know that the problem with the pointing is that it is too simple. If there is an apparent problem with the pointing it is that it is too simple. How can it just be ‘Let go of your next thought’? But, it is. It is as simple as that.

What is that phrase? ‘Don’t knock it ‘til you tried it.’ This means, don’t block or resist something without at least trying it out first. So my submission to everyone is to say that ‘At least give it a try’. Let go of your next thought and then tell me that it doesn’t work. Don’t first presume that ‘it is too simple, it won’t work, it cannot be…, how can I find freedom with such a simple thought, such a simple pointing?’

So let’s catch up on the chat. There are a lot of people saying ‘Hello Ananya’.

[Ananta turns the camera to show Ananya] ‘Namaste everyone’, says Ananya.

Huh! Ustreamer93 says, “Mooji says the best medicine doesn’t heal the patient. It Kills the patient.”

Ustreamer941 says, “You’re not our life coach. You are our life truly.”   So sweet.  “Just by holding you in the heart and realizing this is who I am. I am life itself. Why would life need a coach?”   Exactly. Very good.

Wiebke says, “Hearing you for the first time, Ananta.”

Ustreamer693 says, “I want a taste of Emptiness. Nothing else matters. Nothing else.”     This is Loney.

So, for those who say ‘I want a taste of the Absolute’, or those who say ‘I want a taste of my own true Self’ there is, again, a very simple pointing which is: ‘Are you aware now?’

Don’t expect Emptiness to be a state. Don’t expect Emptiness means this blank space of black universe or some white light or something like that. These are just visuals which the mind is serving to you. It’s again the trickery of the mind. You see? So when you say ‘I want a taste of the Emptiness’ then the simple question is ‘Are you aware right now?’

And what is seen to confirm this? This Emptiness aware of Emptiness itself. No object can be seen to confirm this Awareness. Just in the checking, ‘Am I aware now?’…, this is the taste of the Emptiness.

Also, what must be investigated is this ‘I’ who still wants a taste of something. Whose voice is this? Is it Awareness saying ‘I want a taste’?

Ananya had a question, if she can remember it. And the question is, ‘I was wondering if you would give clarity how ego arises and from where.’

So the question is ‘I wonder if you could give some clarity on from where ego arises’, yeah? So ‘from where’ is actually simple but ‘why’ is the more complicated one. So, let’s look at the ‘where’ first. Where does anything arise? Anything that is appearing, from where is that arising? Or, let’s make it simpler. In whose presence does it arise? Don’t worry about the right answer. Just say whatever is feeling right.

Ananya says, “In my own presence.”   Yes.

This ‘my presence’, is it the presence of your body?     “No.”     So, this is not the presence of the body. It is the presence of the sense that ‘I Am’ which we call Beingness. When this Beingness is not there, does anything arise? So nothing arises when Beingness is not present. Therefore first: ‘I Am’. This ‘I Am’ arises out of this Emptiness, of Awareness itself. Isn’t it? So, this is what we call the Immaculate Conception. In the presence of all of this; then this world arises. In the presence of this Beingness: the world arises, then body arises, the thoughts arise. Hm?

The ‘ego’ actually does not arise at all. Because, even at this level of phenomenal arising, can you show the ‘ego’? Can anyone point to the ‘person’? Even at the level of phenomenal arising? Where does the ‘ego’ arise? It arises only in our imagination. It’s only pretend; it’s only a pretense.

Ananya says, “It arises when there’s a resistance to what is…”    Yes. But the resisting thought will come.    “Yeah.”

You see. Resistance thought will come, resisting emotion might come and fear might come, but does the ‘person’ come along with it? Does the ‘ego’ come along with it? This is a very good question. Hm? Sometimes in satsang we say the ‘person’ arises, the ‘ego’ arises. But it is a second level of delusion like we say. Isn’t it? So a thought we can say arises, a feeling we can say arises, the world we can say arises, light or darkness we can say arises. All this phenomena arises, but where does the ‘person’ arise? Is there ever an arising of the ‘person’? This body arises, breath arises, the beating heart arises, but does the ‘person’ actually arise?

All of you can look and answer this. Can you find this ‘person’? Can you say that it is arising or disappearing?

Ananya says, “The ‘person’ or the ‘ego’…, please help me Father.”     I will. [Laughing]     “It arises when there is a belief given to a certain…”      Okay, so you give belief to a thought. Let’s look at this today in some detail.

Rashmi’s also saying the same thing. “The belief in the thought ‘creates’ the person.”

Okay, so you believe the thought. Now, show me the ‘person’. So you believe a thought. You believe a thought, for example, ‘I should not fall so sick’. Suppose this, no? Then, where is the ‘person’ now? You said the ‘person’ arises after belief in thought. So, we give belief to this thought ‘We should not fall sick’. Then, where’s the ‘person’?

Ananya says, “But isn’t the ‘person’ a bundle of these thoughts and…”      Yes, when we say ‘it is a bundle of thoughts’, that doesn’t give it any reality. Isn’t it?     “Yeah, it’s imagined.”      It’s still more unreal than even the content of a thought.  “Yeah. [laughing]”

In actuality, the trouble is because we are believing that there is an entity called the ‘person’. It doesn’t even arise phenomenally. If at least it arose phenomenally, I would say ‘Okay, it’s at par with thoughts or emotions…’ It does not even arise phenomenally. It’s just a presumption. You see, a presumption can never be an entity. A pretend can never be an entity. I can play, or my daughter will play ‘doctor/doctor’ or something like that. Does that mean that the doctor is there somewhere? We can play this game, you know, young kids play doctor/doctor or husband/wife [laughs] or whatever the games they play. Does it actually give any reality to this? So even when a thought is believed in, even when all thoughts would be believed, can we create a ‘person’ here? Can we create an ‘ego’ which is phenomenally real also?

It’s a very good point because we say often in satsang also, and I want to clarify this, we say almost metaphorically that the ‘person’ arises. But there is no ‘person’ arising actually. There is never a ‘person’ arising. There is never, ever a ‘person’ which can arise. It does not arise.

The fact of the matter is that it is just a presumption. Since this voice is talking to a ‘person’, therefore let’s presume that there is a ‘person’ here. It’s a very silly thing, actually. It’s the most silly thing!

Since I entered the game and there is a voice calling me ‘James Bond’ I must presume that there must be a ‘James Bond’ here. Therefore we must not even give too much importance to these thoughts of how the ‘person’ must vanish or the ‘person’ has to dissolve or something like that for the ‘person’ never is. It never was.

We can still say ‘Okay, thought arises, emotion arises, body arises and the external world arises’. But does the ‘ego’ actually ever arise? [inaudible] The ‘ego’ is never born actually. It is just presumed. So whenever we refer to our self as a ‘person’, we’re referring to our selves as just a pretend, as a presumption. It is not even a phenomenal entity which is arising. And, therefore we must not pick up this ‘person’ hat. We must never pick up this ‘person’ hat. How do we pick up the ‘person’ hat? To believe a thought which is referring to ourselves as a ‘person’.

Before we believe any thought which is referring to ourselves as a ‘person’, we must first ask, ‘Who are you talking to?’  So, if you go on to say ‘Let go of your next thought’ …, you first say ‘Okay, find out who the thought is speaking to. And the one that it is speaking to, let that one comply with the thought. Then show me whether any need is left, any suffering is left, any problem is left, any trouble is left. Is there anything left? Even the need for Truth, is that left?

You are the Truth itself! You are the Truth itself.

It’s not even like the great Indian Saint Kabir had said that ‘The fish is thirsty inside water and it makes me laugh’. It’s much more poetic in the original language, but basically, roughly translated it is that ‘The fish is thirsty inside the water and it makes me laugh’. It’s not even that. It is actually that the water itself was thirsty for water. You see? It’s not even the separation of fish and water. It is water itself which is thirsting for water. The most hilarious thing. If it wasn’t accompanied by this seeming suffering, it would be such a joke, actually. Water itself is thirsting for water!

You are the Truth. You are Emptiness. You are Awareness. You are the Self. You are all there is.

Ananya says, “So, even this Guru and disciple in satsang…, it is from me and it is for me.”      Yes!

All of this is your game. It truly is the water saying that ‘I am thirsty’.

Jayani says, “Father, all that is wanted here is to drown in the Truth until nothing remains but You.”      Yes. And this is already true, isn’t it? This is already this way.

Om says, “The belief in the thought is the person, but assuming something to be true doesn’t make it true.”     Exactly.

Soham said, “No. Person is only another belief.”     Yes.

Ustreamer96 said, “Completely imagined.”

So Atma said, “All appearances are not real and ego even does not appear as a thing as other things appear.”

Yes, you see this is true. This is very good, to see this. I’m feeling to stress on this a little bit because we discuss the ‘person’ concept so much, the mind has seemingly made it at least like a phenomenal truth, or an appearance.

Rashmi says, “But this Guru/disciple game is so beautiful Father.”

As long as it is seen to be a game, then no trouble actually. As long as it is completely clear that it is a game, then no trouble.

Shanti says, “Oh My God! Debra/Shanti is just a belief. The belief was just handed down as an heirloom,”    Yes.     “and something picked it up and took it to be something valuable. It is only a dream. ‘A dream made of love’.”      Very good.

Atma says, “All is my game.”

Jayani says, “Nothing, Father. How can the mind know this when the mind is this.. it’s like a 3D Quantum hologram.”

Yes, these kind of thing, I like. ‘3-D quantum hologram’ [closing his eyes in a fashion like he’s trying to see it]. Interesting.

[Jayani] “That’s the best description.”     Very interesting. Very nice, I like this example.

[Jayani] “The light that is the hologram, and the hologram is looking for the light. What a game”     Yes. [Laughing] Good.

So there’s a (how much?) ten thousand dollar prize for anyone who can show me the person. Vigilance actually only means to check: ‘What am I referring to myself as? Am I still referring to myself as this ‘person’ / non-existent one?’

The original question was ‘Why does the ego arise?’ ‘How’ and ‘why’ or ‘for who’ or whatever.., .the fact is: It never does. There’s only a presumption that it does.

Then the question is what? The question is ‘How does the presumption arise?’ Because the ‘ego’ is basically this presumption. It just arises as part of the play; as part of the game. It gives the game some bite, to give it some juice, to give it a sense of realness.

So, when we enter a movie theater, the movie theater becomes all dark, and we’re immersed into the visual. Isn’t it? Then it feels like we are part of it. Hm? This sense of presumption arises from Beingness itself so that it can feel like it is a participant in this game.

Om says, “Father, can we say the projection of Consciousness is like a movie?’    Exactly. I don’t know whether he typed this before I said the movie example or not. Exactly what we said, isn’t it?

So, it’s like a movie and this movie is playing but it’s a… something exciting-what is that-  3-D quantum hologram, where in this hologram also this presumption, the power of presuming that I am this character, is present.

Rashmi says exactly the same thing, “More like a 3-D movie. Seems so real.”     Yes.

Om says, “In that appearance of a Guru, etc., is all being projected by it?”    Yes.     “Whereas for ‘someone else’, a Guru might not appear at all?”

But this is presuming there is someone else; and we must question this presumption. We can say conversationally ‘whereas for someone else’ but can you actually validate the existence of another? What are we referring to ourselves as, if we are saying that there is someone else? And I understand. Conversationally we can say that. But for me to say that there is ‘another’, I must be referring to myself as a ‘person’.

Om says, “Yes, Father. This cannot be validated.”

That’s why I say it is all about you, actually. Yes, You! [Points at the screen and laughs] This is just Your game. This is Your game. It is all for You.

Ustreamer424 says, “Other bodies can be seen.”

Other bodies can be seen in dreams also. Right now I can imagine other bodies. They can be seen. What does that prove? Nothing! This body can be seen, other bodies can be seen. We have seen that we are not this body.

Ustreamer941 says, “Father, it is so freeing and light to be talking about this. I am so happy that we are coming together to look at this.”     Shanti says. Very good.

Jayani says, “There is no other.”

Om said, “What I meant to ask was the movie might be all struggles or it could be a happy movie right?”    Yes.     “As witnessing, there is no choice what movie appears in front of us.”

This is a very important question and very similar to what Ginger was saying today, isn’t it, about Consciousness having power or not.

When we are talking about the Witnessing; the Witnessing is completely unconcerned. But Consciousness is also made up of the Witnessing, isn’t it? If the Witnessing is all there is, and Awareness is all there is, so in the pure Seeing itself, (it must be from the pure Seeing itself), is this pure Being taking birth. So, when this Being is taking birth, it is in the light of this Being that all of this is playing out. And all of this is playing out with some seeming pattern. There are some laws which seem to operate in the phenomenal world, like the laws of gravity, like the laws of light. You see? So it must be this Supreme Intelligence, this Consciousness that has set all these parameters to play out.

It is enough to know that no ‘person’ has ever done any of this. And no ‘person’ can ever come to the point of saying ‘I am the Witnessing now’. The ‘person’ wants to say that ‘I am now the witnessing, and I should have control over what dream is appearing’. It never can play out this way. Or ‘I am Consciousness now and as Consciousness, I should be able to control something’. This is still the person’s voice.

The ‘person’ is saying ‘I have some knowledge now so how can I make the world?’ And you know, part of this has to do with this whole thing about manifesting and creative visualization. All of this sort of comes from there. Isn’t it? To use our belief in some thoughts to get something to phenomenally manifest. Bu, it still comes from a personal perspective; and the problem with all of this ‘Secret’ and manifesting and all of these things is it presumes that as a ‘person’ I know what is best for me and it should appear in that way.

Rashmi says, “Always down to basics. Love that. Nothing complicated.”    [chuckling] Yes.

To a defrosted mind you can say like this, that this is pure, simple common sense. But sometimes when the mind is still strong, then all of this what you said was ‘nothing complicated’ could be sounding like the most complex, abstract thing.

Soham says, “Life doesn’t come with a remote control.”     Yes.

You are the Supreme Intelligence. You are the Supreme One. And You are controlling this entire projection, but never as a ‘person’. Never as a ‘person’.

You see, all these seeming coincidences… I also had this fun thing where I would calculate the probabilities of something happening and we have another mathematician who is here, Zoe, who also calculates the probability of something happening in that way, the odds of something happening. There are many instances where the odds are one in a trillion, one in a zillion that it could happen in this way. A thought would arise of someone who I’ve not met for ten years and then suddenly they seem to call. What are the mathematical probabilities of something like that? You will find the mathematical probability of this event happening is a one in a trillion chance that it will happen in the life-time of the person, once. Something like that, maybe more, and we find that it happens to us often. So one in a trillion odds that it could happen in the life of the person once. And this one in a trillion odds can happen many times. So which power, which Supreme Intelligence is playing this game of life?

Om says, “Yes Father. One substance. All is Awareness.”

Rashmi says, “So much love to you, Ananya.”

Now we’ve seen that the ‘person’ never can arise even as a phenomenon. ‘Person’ can never arise even as a phenomenon. And only suffering can come when we refer to our self as this ‘person’.

Is there any reason left to suffer? Show me a reason that is left for any suffering. So, there was a ten thousand dollar prize which nobody claimed. So there’s another ten thousand dollar prize to show me the presence of suffering. We’re not referring to pain because we have some claimants to the ten thousand dollars in this one. Show me suffering without attributing any personhood, without claiming to be a ‘person’ first. We already saw that there was no ‘person’. So, now show me any suffering without the ‘person’ idea.

Om says, “Father, even though we discuss these things sometimes, I feel all we ever need to know is to say ‘Let go of your next thought.”     Yes. That’s my line actually.  [giggling from Ananya]

It’s fun sometimes to discuss other things, but ultimately this simple pointing is enough. See, but we have a one hour satsang so we can’t just say ‘Let go of your next thought’. Let go of your next thought. Let go of your next thought. Let go of…[Laugh from Ananya]

Zoe says, “If you look at the odds, life is basically impossible.”   Yes. This is very true.

Atma says, “Yes, Father. No reason and no more suffering.”   Very good.  “The game is over, Father. Forever.”

Yes. It is game over, isn’t it? Now I feel many of you are just grasping at straws. ‘Something, something…, we need to discuss something in satsang, so let’s have a question’.

Ananya says, “It’s just arising.”     ‘It’s just arising’. Now she’s using Advaita on me [Laughing]

Atma said, “By your grace it happened. Over. Enough!”      From this voice actually, this ‘enough’. When this ‘enough!’ comes then it is inevitable that it is over.

Om says, “Classic Ananya.”  [Big smile]

Rashmi says, “We don’t want this Guru / disciple game over Father.”    She has decided. [Laughing] That’s very good. If you have found me inside your own heart, then it is truly over.

Ustreamer941 says, “That would be great. A satsang where all that is said is ‘Let go of your next thought.”      Sometimes I also feel this. ‘Today in satsang we’ll only say ‘Let go of your next thought’. [Laughs].

Zoe says, “It was ‘game over’ the second I met you, Father.”     Very good. Yes, because there was a genuine voice saying ‘Enough of the game. Enough of the game’.

Rashmi says, “Love you so much.”     Love you too, my dear. [Big smile]

Atma says, “It is over.”     Very good.

Ustreamer941 says, “Let’s sing ‘It Is Done’.”

There’s something I wanted to announce in satsang today, and this is for all of you in Bangalore. I received an e-mail from the Mooji Sangha team yesterday where they said that the Bangalore group that meets up, we can host a group in Bangalore, at my place, where the retreat will be visible. So they will send a ticket. So if you want to join the retreat with Mooji, the ticket will be here where we will host it. So the entire retreat can be viewed here in one group. All of the people will not get individual tickets, we’ll have one ticket and if you want to meet up at my place, we can watch the retreat with Mooji together. It starts on September 24^th and goes until October 1^st.

Louise says, “Feel like I’m in the fire today. Still here. Just don’t feel anything coming up needs any attention. Nothing to say today, Father.”     Yes.

This fire is very good. The mind will say ‘It is uncomfortable. It should not be there’. Let the fire burn. It is only burning what is untrue. Because the Truth is ever untouched, you see. It’s very good that you are not letting the fire convince you that you are a ‘person’.

Let no event now make you presume personhood. Let no event convince you that you are a ‘person’. Even if it feels like the body is leaving. It still doesn’t make you a ‘person’.

Ajnani says, “I am so late; but agree, it is done. Love you so much.”     Yes, love you too.

Soham says, “You are my heart Father. There is nothing else.”

No person found? Never arose? So we’re waiting for something that never arose to dissolve or to disappear, isn’t it?

Jayani says, “Father, it is over. And in all honesty, it never begun. In heaven, dreaming of exile.”     Yes.    “Phew, what an immaculate play.”

I like this ‘water being thirsty’. It is like water itself has become thirsty now.

Ustreamer622 says, “Thank you, Ananta. So much love.”    Thank you so much.

Rashmi has to go. Love you so much.

So, who would like a life coach for a person’s life that never existed?

Jayani says, “Yes, water thirsty. Light that thinks it’s dark.”     Yes. Light which is searching for light.

Ajnani says, “Yesterday ‘already done’ was singing in me.”    Yes.

Louise says, “Would like a head-chopper coach, Father. With a big sickle.”

So, once it’s chopped, what would you do with the head?  You’ll throw it away, or give it to me, whatever you like. So, every moment, when we let go of our next thought, this is the chopping of the head. When we let go of the next thought it is the chopping of the head. See, your head is already chopped off, already chopped off. Now you’re just feeling that there’s a head here. It happens with amputees also. I’m sorry, it’s not an elegant example, but it happens with amputees also. So, suppose somebody had a very bad injury in the war or something and they amputate the leg. For many years actually, this feeling of the false leg can be there. So your head already has been chopped. This goes for all of you. With the letting go of your next thought, your head was chopped. It’s over.

Om says, “Love you Father.”     Love you too, my son.    “Felt like I was there today.”    Yes.

Amaya says, “Thank you, Father and sangha.”   Thank you.

Thank you all so much for joining in satsang today.  Moojiji ki Jai.

Sangha: Moojiji ki Jai !  Anantaji ki Jai ! Thank you. Love  you.

Namaste everyone, very warm welcome to satsang today. Moojiji ki jai!

Thank you all so very much for joining in. And if this is your first time in satsang, the way to ask questions is through the chat window. Namaste.

Zoe says, “Mike says g’day!”

G’day mate! [Laughs] Sorry about that Aussie accent but so good to have you with us. Good.

So what would you like to speak about today?  Namaste. Namaste everyone.

Hans says, “Pure consciousness.” Yes.

Mike says, “Resistance.” Yes. Okay.

Ustreamer657 says, “Maybe talk about love. Non-phenomenal love.”  Very good.

So let’s start from the beginning. Hans said ‘pure consciousness’. And when we speak of pure consciousness then not too many words are actually required, isn’t it? Cos I don’t want it to become an intellectual understanding of pure consciousness. Right now I want all of you to taste it. See the taste of your own being which is ever present. And as we say ever-present, the answer of how to find this pure being or pure consciousness is already there. How do we find something which is ever-present? Therefore it must be in the now, isn’t it? It must already be here. So right now, the presence of Being is already here.

So pretend as if you’re hearing this question for the first time: Can you stop being now?

Pretend as if you’ve never heard this before and ask yourself right now: Can I stop being now?

And in this question you will see that there is a Being here; your own Presence, which cannot be stopped. This Being is not a man or a woman, it is not Hans or Ananta, it is just Being. See? Just Being.

And irrespective of what happens in the story of this life, this Being is unaffected, unchanged, untouched consciousness. So prior to I am a person, I am a man, I am a partner, I am a parent, I am a child, prior to all of this: I am.

Is there ever a point where I am not?

Is there ever a point where you can say ‘I am not’?

So this I Am itself is pure consciousness; it is the Immaculate Conception. It is the cause of all future causes. It is the effect which gives all effects their cause. And in the pure seeing itself there is the birth of this pure Being which we call consciousness.

Okay, next was, Mike said ‘resistance’. Yes. Very good.  Very good.

So, resistance is another name for the ego itself. So let’s look at resistance today. Resistance means to accept a thought, or believe a thought which is contrary to what is. All thoughts are in resistance to what is. All thoughts are a ‘should’ or’ should not’, ‘could have’ or ‘could have not’, ‘how could’ or ‘how could you have not’. This is usually the tone of all thoughts. You see? And then when we resist what is, through belief and thought, that is the birth of the person idea actually. Because if there was complete acceptance of what is, if there was complete acceptance of what is, then there would be no use of the person idea.

You see if you were just going with the beautiful flow of life then we would see that there is no individual here who needs to control anything at all or needs to maneuver in any way at all.

You see? So you are on the ship, so maybe you understand this example: so once we see that we can flow along with the ocean, we can flow along with the river, then there is no need for a captain at all. You see? The captain is required to maneuver. The person idea seemed to have been important to maneuver life in a particular way, but what have we been able to maneuver actually? Have we been able to find that happiness which we have are looking for? Have we been able to find peace and joy?

Nobody coming from the person concept has been able to find this unwavering happiness, this peace and joy.

So resistance therefore must be born from the concept that I know what is good for my life. And ultimately it is like saying that the universe will not be able to manage my life. It can manage all of the billions of organisms, it can run the lives of many, many, many of these species, but my life it cannot run; therefore I must decide what is best for me. And without any insight into the intricate play of life, we want to make decisions about ‘my life’.

It is basically attempting to swim upwards towards the source of the river instead of letting go of this effort and just flowing along with what is appearing.

And what is the way to drop this resistance? What is the way to let go? It is just to let go of your next thought. Just to let go of your next thought is the dropping of all resistance. Because it is resistance itself which will come and say ‘But I must now do it for everything’. And then it will only say that ‘I forgot to let go of this and now I’m so guilty about it’. You see?

That’s why we made it very simple now. We said just only let go of your next thought. See?

And what does let go mean? It only means that we allow every thought to come. Any thought can come and it can go. We do not give it our belief. And if you do not give it your belief then show me how you can suffer.

Now there might be some resistance which is coming about what has been said about resistance. And what is the typical resistance that comes up? The typical resistance that comes up is ‘If I let go of my thought then what will happen to my life?’ Isn’t it? We say ‘If I let go of my thought, what will happen to my life?’ And I say: Just try it out, play with it and see what happens to your life. You see? Because I don’t want to give you any expectations and no need even to take my word for it. But can we just…, to start with, say that ‘I was in satsang, I was here with Ananta and he said just let go of your next thought. So like a child can I just follow this simple instruction for a little bit of time?’ And then see what happens.

You see? If you were to look at it a little more deeply you will see that life is just flowing in its own beautiful way; but we have picked up this voice which is trying to tell us to change things, that things should be in a different way. And this voice, once we latch onto it and we give it our belief, then this is when we are resisting life; because life is not reliant on the ego’s voice. Life is not reliant on the mind’s voice. It is continuously unfolding in its own beautiful wonder. But we have picked up this wrong number, and we continue to follow the instructions without ever asking: Who is it that is speaking these words? If it was me, then why would I need words to communicate with my own self?

So when we let go of this voice in our minds then that is pure acceptance, that is the end of resistance.

Ustreamer657 said, “May we talk about love: Non-phenomenal love?”

Yes. Non-phenomenal love, you see. So it depends on how you define ‘phenomena’ actually. For me, I like things simple so I say that everything that appears, along with the birth of I Am itself. So from your question I understand that there is some already understanding there, so I’ll presume that this will be understood; but if it’s a little difficult to understand you can ask again and we can make it simpler.

So we see that in the pure witnessing, or the pure seeing, the pure awareness, when the waking state comes, there is first the birth of this Being, birth of I Am. And prior to the birth of I Am there is nothing; no content for the witnessing at all, but the witnessing itself is ever- present. So only the witnessing exists; the seeing exists, and from this seeing itself the Being is born. So I would call this Being the primordial phenomena or the root phenomena, or we say the immaculate conception, you see?

Then with the birth of this I Am there is also the birth of all the forces; the forces of attention, the forces of belief, the forces of identity, the forces of love, peace, joy; all the emotions. And there is a birth of these energy constructs called thoughts, there’s the birth of the body and there’s the birth of the entire phenomenal universe. You see?

So in the way I speak about it, when there is this Presence of only Being and we do not associate any identity with it; when it’s clear that this consciousness or ultimately the witnessing of even this consciousness I am, then the force of love is in service to this Being. The force of peace and joy are also in service to this Being. With no effort at all, all the love of the entire universe is in service to your own true Being. You see?

And this is the funniest thing, isn’t it, because most of our life goes in chasing love, peace and joy when in actuality they’re here to serve you. But if we pick up the person identity and then we search for love, peace and joy, then it is a many, many, many lifetimes search which will be still unfulfilled, because no person can get love. A person can only understand need. No person can find everlasting peace or joy because the person is not real at all. You see?

So although I might not use the term non-phenomenal love I have a feeling that this is the love that you are referring to, which is in the service of pure Being itself, completely effortlessly, without any sense of grasping, need or desperation or clinginess of any sort. In the presence of this love is freedom because you realize that there is no effort required to be in its Presence. This would be pure love, pure peace; not the ego’s definition of love which means that basically it is need fulfillment or desire fulfillment. And the ego’s definition of love always tramples on freedom. It does not co-relate well with the concept of freedom because it is always constraining either your own freedom or the freedom of the seeming other. You see.

Namaste. Okay, let me just catch up on the chat and see if the audio/video…everything is fine. Yes, it seems OK so let’s see what the next topic was.

Ajnani says, “Maybe free will.”   Yes.

For you I can say very simply that when we say free will, whose free will are we referring to? For you I can say this, you see?

Because when we say free will we must first define whose free will are we speaking about and what are the options? So we see first, are we speaking of a person’s free will? And to speak of a person’s free will is like asking ‘Where can I find the farm of the farmer who appeared in my dream last night?’ You see?

So it is seen already that the person idea was completely imagined; that the person was nothing but a bunch of concepts that consciousness itself believed. You see? So then asking for the person’s free will or any attribute of the person is like saying ‘Show me where the house of this person who came in my dream last night is. I want to go and see that house’.

If the person itself is imagined then how can the imaginary one have any free will at all? So that’s the first option; which clearly for you I think is seen that it is just not possible, isn’t it?

What is the second option? That we are referring to the free will of consciousness itself; the free will of Being itself. And as Being, as consciousness, you have complete freedom…, you have complete freedom to use all the forces at your disposal: the forces of creation, destruction, belief, attention. All these are at your disposal and you can use them as you see fit. In fact, it is you which is projecting this entire universe as consciousness itself. It is in the light of your own Being, you see?

But a person knowing this does not help the person, because when the mind hears that ‘I am in control’ it believes that the mind is in control, which is not true. You see? The mind will say ‘How can I use this to my advantage?’ It cannot. It is like the character in the movie saying ‘How can I, now that I’ve discovered I’m in the movie…’ It wants to change the script, it wants to become the director. It cannot do it. So for consciousness there is complete free will.

And for the pure witnessing there is nothing at all but just the witnessing of all that is appearing and disappearing. So both the appearance and disappearance are witnessed. Yes. Very good.

Rashmi said, “Planning and decision making.”  Yes. So I feel that the question on free will would have answered that.

Louise says, “Father…, actually about digesting what is heard. And actual looking rather than listening to what the mind has to say about it.”   Yes. Yes.

Actually there is nothing to be done to digest this. In reality nothing is to be done to digest this because this actually is a communion that consciousness is having with itself. You see? So if there’s still something which is coming up which is saying ‘Some effort is required to understand this’ we can let that go also. See, because it can only be the mind which is saying that ‘I still need to get this’. And it will only be the mind which says that ‘I must not listen to the mind but I should just stay with what is being said’. Therefore the simple medicine, the simple prescription works for all of this. The simple medicine is to let go of your next thought.

See I have an advantage. You know what the advantage is? That what is true is always true. The truth is ever present. That’s the biggest advantage. Therefore nothing needs to be done to create the truth. Nothing needs to be done to bring you to the truth also actually. Only the false idea of the false must be shown to be untrue, or it must be seen that what ‘I have been believing is false’. And once the false is let go of the truth is automatically seen because it has always been here. So all that is required to do, if you can say like that…, all that is required to do is to let go of the false. No effort is required to create the truth. Once the dust is removed from the mirror then the mirror does not need any help to reflect the world. So another example is that once you wipe the diamond, clean the diamond up, then it does not need any effort required to shine. So to become the Self you do not need any effort at all. The dropping of all effort to believe the false is the only thing that is required. Good.

Yes. So the only thing to focus on here is (where you said ‘and actual looking rather than listening to what the mind has to say about it all’. This is a very good point; because even in satsang I find that many times the words are being spoken, and instead of validating and looking for ourself whether it is true or not we are still listening to what the mind is saying about the words. So the first instruction in satsang is to let go of your thought, even about satsang itself. Let go of your thoughts even about satsang. And then, as this letting go is happening, then nothing else is required. It is this simple actually.

Namaste. Lonai said, “Here it is felt that access to actually tasting pure consciousness depends on the energies. If energy-contractions are here, it is not possible. The Presence of you relaxes these contractions and therefore everything is so easy in satsang.”

Yes. For some Beings some of these strong energy residues are there. Some of these strong energetic forces are there so for you. What I can say is don’t even try to stay with the sense I Am. You see? Don’t even try to get the taste of consciousness. You be the Witnessing itself. Just stay as the Witnessing which is untouched by the flow of any of this. And as you continue staying as the Witnessing itself, you will find that these seemingly dark energies will get burnt in your very pure Witnessing.

But don’t let any energies, don’t let any life situation convince you that you are a person; convince you of your separation. Don’t let any of these forces do that. That is their game actually. And now you have Arunachala in your heart, you have Ramana in your heart, you have Papaji in your heart and you have Sri Moojiji in your heart…, which energy can touch you? Which energy can hurt you now? You just stay as the Witnessing itself, then we will see what happens.

Yes. So Lonai says, “Actually it is felt that everything is energies. A thought has a certain energy”, yes, “an emotion, a tree, a straw of grass – love, sadness.”

Yes. Very good. So if it is seen that all of this is the play of this energy, then tell me how Witnessing is touched by any of this energy; how Awareness is touched by any energy?

Kapil says, “When you say ‘Being’ do you mean sense of being alive?”  Yes. “Being alive here now? Am I trying too hard to understand it?”   No, it’s good.

So when you say ‘Presence of Being’ it can be said to be the Presence of life, the Presence of being alive. Yes. Yes. So I like when you say ‘the sense of being alive’. It’s very nice because many people hear ‘This Being’ or hear ‘I Am’ and they get attached to the thought I am. So it’s not in the thought, it is in the pure Presence of Being itself. It’s the sense of being alive, is yes, one way to look at it. It’s good. But it is not the sense of being alive as a body, you see? Before identification with body also, this is there.

[Sound of a plane overhead]. We’ll let this plane fly past.

So this sense of Being, can it ever be absent? See, in the longer question that you asked you also said that ‘Sometimes my attention goes to objects of the world and I seem to get distracted by it’. So the effort is not in keeping attention with the sense of being, also although some Masters do prescribe that. What I am saying is that: Don’t even try to force your attention to be with this sense of Presence. See? Just naturally keep letting go of your thoughts, and then you will find that automatically this Presence, which is just always here actually, becomes more apparent, it becomes clearer. But if attention is jumping around here and there, it is absolutely fine. That is its nature anyway. As long as you are not believing any thoughts about anything, it’ll all be fine. Very good.

Meera joined in late. No worries my dear.

Lonai said, “The captain is the river.” Yes.

Thank you. Thank you Zoe and Mike.

Rolf says, “The AV is clear.” Thank you my dear.

Ajnani says, “Very clear, thank you.” Very welcome.

Lonai says, “Witnessing is never touched by any energy – never, but being able to stay as Witnessing depends on the contractions, how closed they are.”

Yes, and when you say ‘Stay as the witnessing’ you are talking about attention staying home, isn’t it? Yes? So let’s make it even simpler for you. Don’t even try to keep the attention at home. Don’t try to keep the attention at home. Because like we just said, attention will jump about, and this instruction or this pointing might be taken as a practice. So drop this idea also. And also then we will see that no matter what you do, how hard you try, you can never not be the Witnessing. Can any of you step out of the Witnessing and show me? Stop the Witnessing, don’t be Witnessing now, become something else. Become a person and show me.

It is not possible, isn’t it? But you can try, because in trying this, it’s a beautiful insight that can appear. So far the effort has been to ‘Be the Witnessing’. So much seeming effort to ‘Be the Witnessing’. So now we’ve flipped it around, we’ve said: Can we not be the witnessing? Can you become something else and show me how you achieved this miracle? Show me this magic. Stop the witnessing now.

Who can stop it?

Somebody able to stop witnessing?  [Smiling and laughing] You see?

Lonai says, “Stop the witnessing now; laughing out loud.” Yes.

Amaya also says, “Laughing out loud.”

Zoe says, “I am trying very hard to stop Witnessing. J”

Yes, yes, we must try completely. Stop it! Stop witnessing now! You see, because when we do this we will see that it is impossible; and then this concept of effort required to ‘Be the Witnessing’ can go away. And then some moment when we find that our attention seems to be in something, or even some belief has been given to something, we can just come back to our natural state of Witnessing, because it is not going anywhere. This Witnessing has seen the birth of all the universes, and together we will see the death of all the universes. It is not going anywhere. It is what You Are. You Are this Awareness: unstoppable, unchanging, untouched by anything. If this entire universe were to burn in this moment, it would not touch this Witnessing. Millions of bodies we have had, and billions more we will have, but this Witnessing is untouched by any life story.

Very good. So, simple, simple, simple. I think for everyone the simplest thing is:  Just let go of your next thought. Don’t even try to be the Self or the Witnessing. Very good.

Thank you, Kapil.

Shanti says, “Through a seeing of tiredness it is hard to focus on words, thoughts, actions, and only seeing is staying still at the moment”.   Yes. This seeing is always unchanging, unmoving. “…with no need to understand or to make sense. I am here witnessing it all.”  Very good, and we just spoke about this, very good. It’s good.

Jayani says, “Can you speak about the seer, Father?”

Yes. It’s very simple: there is none.  [Smiling]

There is no seer, there is only the Seeing. Ultimately there is no witness, there is only the Witnessing. No noun you are. No thing you are. You are not an entity. The minute we say ‘seer’ or ‘witness’ it implies that there must be an entity to which the Seeing or the Witnessing belongs, but in reality there is no such thing. There is no seer. It is only the person’s voice which tries to invent the concept of the seer, because it can only relate to an entity. The mind can only relate to you as an entity. So it will try and say ‘Ok, ok, now you’ve understood you’re not a person, you are the seer’. You see? Because it can only relate to you as an entity. It cannot relate to you as a verb. It cannot relate to you as a Seeing.

What words will the mind say which will be applicable to the Seeing? There is no seer.

So initially when someone is new to satsang, we may tell them ‘You be the witness’. Sometimes it is too far of a leap to say that ‘There is no entity’. So we say, to begin with, ‘Just be the witness of all that is appearing and disappearing’. And after there is some stability, some suffering seems to have been washed off, and there is more clarity, then we say ‘Let’s examine the presence of even the witness energy’. And it is found that there is no witness. It is only the Witnessing itself.  Very good.

Clare says, “Witnessing ever is, effortlessly.” Very good.

Cornelia says, “Father, in deep sleep, how do we witness?” Yes.

How do we know that it was deep sleep? So we say that ‘…because nothing was present’. So who is aware that nothing was present? How do we wake up and say that ‘I experienced deep sleep’? That means there is an awareness even of nothingness, isn’t it? So I get your question that ‘Because there is no phenomena, no object to report on, then nothing is seen’. Yes, but this nothing…, it’s like the zen Master saying ‘When the presence of thought is there, it is mind. And when even the presence of thought is absent, it is no mind. Both the mind and no mind, there is awareness of it isn’t it?’ In the same way there is awareness of everything: awareness of phenomena, and awareness of nothing as well. So there is awareness that nothing was there. So this is also awareness. And in this awareness of nothingness seems to be born the Beingness, which is called the waking state. What is the difference between the deep sleep state and the waking state? And who is aware of them? This awareness is ever- present, isn’t it? You see? It’s a little subtle, and the mind will struggle to understand this, so don’t force your mind to understand this. Just let the words seep in and you’ll see this will become your true living insight. It’s good.

Amaya said, “Beloved Father, you missed some chat, scroll up to Kapil, thank you.”

Yes. I feel like I caught up on it now, isn’t it? Yes, you say, “You got it before seeing my comment.” Yes. Thank you so much. Good.

Shanti said something which got censored, then “MATTER WHAT” in capitals. No matter what or something.

Lucien says, “Exposing some need for a relaxed state, and a controlling freak that kicks in when planning needs to happen. This surfaced these days as I prepared for my trip, but all gets washed away here in satsang.”  Yes. Very good.

It’s very good that you are able to watch these states now, coming and going. That means that there is more identification with the witnessing than with the states. And this identification with the truth will get stronger and stronger. And the misidentification with the states is now getting fully washed away. It’s very good.

Lucian then says, “When I hear you speak so beautifully and truthfully, even this exposing I feel it’s unimportant, but somehow maybe it keeps the arrogance in place.”

Yes. It’s very good to expose. It takes a lot of integrity, courage and honesty to expose some of these things which we feel are really strong. You see? And once they are exposed we see that it was nothing at all. So keeping things in denial is like keeping things hidden in the dark, unresolved. But once it is exposed, the light of your own seeing is also falling on it, isn’t it? And in your own seeing it is also getting burnt. Very good.

Lucian says, “I love you all so much, and this beautiful gathering. I’m taking you all in my heart wherever I go. In truth, I go nowhere”, very beautiful, “I’m always with you. Love, only love, and beyond!”

So much love, beloved one. Hope you have a wonderful stay in Sahaja. So much love. I’m so happy you will get to be in Monte Sahaja [with Mooji]. Very good.

Shanti says, “Witnessing, no matter what.” Yes.

[Laughing] Kapil says, “Hugging my laptop screen.” See what we’ve done to you now! So beautiful. Very good.

Very good. Jayani says, “Untouched, ever-present seeing here effortlessly.” Very good. “Only this.” Very good.

Louise says, “Father, am REALLY noticing how the mind takes everything to be mulled over. Noticing is what is happening though which was absent before.” Yes.

Yes. You will find that more and more clarity will emerge and the mind’s conclusions, the mind’s understanding will be let go more and more. You will not be so concerned about what the mind is saying and what its conclusions are. And this noticing, what you are calling it; this seeing will become your true identification. And I’m not saying that the mind will go away completely or that thoughts will stop. It will still buzz around like a tiny insect but it will have no power what so ever over you, whatever conclusions it makes.  Very good.

Therefore, to all of you I want to say that: Don’t try to become the Witnessing.

Although we say in satsang ‘Be the witnessing’ it does not mean that effort is required to become something. It only means that:

See that you’re already…, you can only be the Witnessing itself. It only means:

Stop pretending to be this one, stop pretending to be this imagined one.

It is not about effort, to try and force attention, or to try and force something to happen. It is only the imploring to:

Stop pretending to be what you are not.

Jayani says, “Exposing jerkiness. Especially with husband that can arise here, Father. Know it is nothing, but all at your feet, beloved.” Very good.

This jerkiness in special relationships is very sticky actually. Just the other day I was talking about my own jerkiness like this as well. It’s good that you see it. Because many times what happens is we keep the special relationship out of the insight or shining our own light on it. We say that ‘Satsang is separate and this special relationship is separate and I’m allowed to be a person in this’. It is not true. When we bring everything into the light of satsang we see that the role of wife or of special relationship can continue, but doesn’t mean we pick up any idea of being a person. It’s very good that you see this.

Clare says, “Thank you for all your words, Ananta.”  Very welcome my dear. Very good.

Naomi says, “Experienced some technical issues but so enjoyed this satsang. Much love.”

Very happy. Good. And then if you missed something then the recording is also there. It’s very nice.

This morning I noticed that there are more than hundred satsangs now recorded on the site which I feel is a beautiful gift of this beautiful sangha to the world.

Very good. Yes. Thank you Rolf, “A/V was 99.99% good.”  Very good.

Very happy all of you could join us. Thank you all so very much for being in this satsang today.

Moojiji kai jai!

Ah! And Amaya says, “…and thousand pages of transcripts.” Look at this wonderful seva. Thank you so much Amaya and to the beautiful transcripts team.

You see, every satsang takes three to four hours to transcribe, at least. It is such beautiful seva and must be so much grace also, because to be immersed in these words is so beautiful, isn’t it? But so amazing, so much gratitude and love to the transcripts team. Very good.

[Waves. Blows kiss.]

Sangha: Moojiji ki Jai! Anantaji ki Jai!  Thank you. Love you.

Q:  “Is the sense of fear something Consciousness welcomes? The sense of excitement before the rise of fear seems to welcome the anticipation of an event. If we stayed before this fear, before this, can fear be transcended? Or non-existent from experience?”

The mind cannot figure out why anything appears. The mind tries to get an understanding of why fear appears or when it will disappear, or any emotion. At best, the mind can just see that there are some patterns that seem to exist. So actually what happens is that any emotion can come; we’ll take fear as an example. So fear arises. Fear is here, it is arising. And we conjure up actually the entity, a separate entity for whom it is arising. So if it is before we are supposed to speak onstage, we call it anxiety which is happening to the person. But if it is before we are going on an exciting road trip or a holiday, we say this is so much excitement. Energetically anxiety and expectation, excitement are not very different. If you were to look at them just as energies, you will see that anxiety and expectation, excitement, are not very different. But it is the labeling which causes all the problem.

So you are right to the extent that when it comes like excitement, we say ‘Oh, this is so good, such a nice feeling’. But when it comes as anxiety or stage fright, then we say ‘Oh, I wish that this was not there’. So the only trouble is in the interpretation of it. If you were to be completely open and non-resistant to all that is appearing, then you will see that none of this has any power over us. And then we do not invent the idea of this separate me, which is the seeming experiencer of these emotions. There is no individual entity which experiences this emotion. We cannot say one thing about this individual entity. Yet we are so convinced that it must exist. You see? So in the play of Maya, in the play of this Consciousness, all is allowed to appear and to be let go of. It is for its own play. Who is trying to understand it?

So if we stop labeling fear as uncomfortable or a negative emotion, then we see that fear also is nothing at all to us. Just another appearance.

Once this is seen, that all is welcome, all is just appearing and dissolving in my own light, then all the struggle seems to get diminished on its own.

Suffering is only a resistance to what is.

And every time now suffering arises, we can see what is still being resisted.

It is that simple.

Suffering is only a resistance to what is.

And as long as there is no resistance, there is no suffering.

But when suffering arises, it shows us what is still being resisted.

So it is actually to be embraced and welcomed, because it shows us what still remains.

It is very good.

Namaste everyone, very warm welcome to Satsang today. Moojiji ki Jai.

Thank you all very much for joining in. And if this is your first time in satsang, the way to ask questions is through the chat window. Namaste. So you can ask your question through the chat window. Let me get my phone off. Namaste and welcome.

What would you like to speak about today? Namaste. Any topics you want to discuss?

Okay, so Ananya has a question. She says, “Father, can you give some clarity on Consciousness as one doer and experiencer please?”

Aryev “How about the world affairs? Terrorism, violence, etc.”

Yes. Somehow, although it might not seem that way, it could be interlinked, isn’t it? The answer would be ‘maybe’ to both. Yes. So we are speaking of Consciousness as the one doer and one experiencer. And the root of this is that ancient Indian scripture, a line in that scripture, which says “Tvam kartha, tvam bhogtha, tvam kartha, tvam bhogtha.” Which means that, you are the doer, or thou art the doer, and you are the experiencer. It’s very good, we’ll discuss this today. It’s very good.

So the only thing, which is ever present…, the only thing, which is ever present, is the pure Witnessing itself. The pure Awareness itself is ever present. And all states arise for this Witnessing, and within this Witnessing itself. All states arise within this Witnessing itself. And in this Witnessing, Consciousness or Beingness takes birth. So when there was just pure seeing, the first phenomena, or the Immaculate Conception of the sense I Am is born. This is the pure Being. And when the Presence of this pure Being is seen, then that is called the waking state or the dream states; is the Presence of Consciousness, is the Presence of the so-called conscious states.

So it is clearly seen in the beginning that awareness is all there is. And when this waking state is to happen, there is this birth of this sense of Being. And this Being wakes up, and then in the light of this Being itself, the entire phenomenal universe wakes up. And when this Being is not present, then no phenomenal existence can be there. So all states which are conscious states have the Presence of this sense I Am. In fact, this I Am-ness is Consciousness itself. So all that appears to us is in the light of this. Even in the dream, first there has to be this me, the sense I Am, for the dream to exist. And all is allowed to play out even in the dream. Like there will be a body, all the forces of pain and pleasure, entire universes; all will be seen. It’s not like you come to a dream state and you can reach the edge of a dream. You don’t run out of the dream space or time, it keeps going. It is unlimited. In the same way, this phenomenal world of the seeming waking state, which is actually no different from the dream state, seems to appear with unlimited time and space. Nobody has come to the edge of time or the edge of space.

Then what happens when this sense of Beingness is there, then we see that there are all kinds of appearances. Seemingly external appearances and seemingly internal appearances. But they are all dancing in front of this Awareness itself. So the pure Witnessing remains untouched, but all the appearances start appearing. Then what happens, we see that the seemingly internal appearances…, we see that there could be a thought, which is just another appearance. There could be an emotion, which is just another appearance. But we say ‘It is ‘my thought’. We say ‘It is my emotion’. And in the same way, there are actions which happen through the body and we say ‘It is my action’.

So like my Master says ‘You are not the thinker of your thoughts, nor the doer of your actions’. And when we investigate this purely scientifically, purely scientifically, we can investigate this. And if you just check ‘Did I create my thought? Is there an individual entity called a person who created a thought?’ And ‘Is there an individual entity here who decided to do an action or not?’ You will see that it is completely untrue. No such individual personal entity exists. You will see that it is purely imagined. It is only made up of the beliefs that we carry. So like we say, the person is only the sum total of all the beliefs which have been carried up to this point. And as we let go of these beliefs, we see that the individual entity called the person is completely non-existent. But what does exist is the light of Beingness itself. This Presence I Am-ness cannot be denied in the waking state.

In the waking state, nobody can truly deny their own existence as the Presence I Am. Nobody can truly say ‘I am not’. And we see it was only in the light of This that the phenomenal world continues to move around. Whenever this sense of I Am is present, whatever state it might be, there is some movement. You see? So all this is happening through the light of Consciousness itself. That is why we say that Consciousness is the one doer. Because we see that there is a beautiful pattern of movement. Everyone’s heart seems to be moving. Breath seems to be happening. Gravity seems to be working. Electricity seems to be flowing. Magnetism seems to work. And each with some predetermined constants and rules. Evolution seems to occur.

So what is the Supreme Intelligence, which is keeping track of all of this? Like I jokingly say, was there a committee that sat and decided on what the value of gravity must be? What Supreme Intelligence keeps track of mutations in every next generation? What we call evolution. What is the Supreme Intelligence, which is keeping track? You see? And what is the Supreme Intelligence, which is keeping track, so that from generation to generation, the body which is being received by humans seem to have bigger heads? So it must be this one Consciousness itself. This Being itself, which is the Light of this universe, must be this Light. Therefore we say this One is the One Doer. Who is making the neurons fire? Who is making light travel at a constant speed? Who has created the rules of physics, chemistry, and biology?

So all scientists have so far come to conclusions about what is going on. And at what rate they happen. But nobody is able to tell us why it happens in this particular way. Nobody can tell us why light travels at a particular speed. Nobody can say who decided this would be the speed of light, isn’t it? Therefore for me, it is completely clear. That only in the light of this Being, this Consciousness, all of this is done by itself. Because this Consciousness is present, is ever-present in the now. And the person is never present except for in our imagination. Consciousness is ever-present in the now. The person is never present, except for in our imagination. So that was the part of our being the One Doer.

Then we say, why do we say that Consciousness is also the One Experiencer? And in this you must see that there is a difference between the pure Witnessing and the experiencing of phenomena. I know this can be a point of confusion for some of you, so today we can clarify this. There is the pure Witnessing, which is untouched by all phenomena, and yet there is an experiencing of phenomena. So if I eat an ice cream, there is an experiencing of taste. And even this experiencing of taste ultimately is Witnessing by the Pure Awareness. But the experiencing of taste can only happen in the Presence of Beingness itself. Again, there is no person which is experiencing anything. This person cannot be found. But there is the presence of Beingness here. You see?

So experiencing through senses or internal imagery, memories, internal emotions being experienced, all again happens in the Presence of Being itself, and this experiencing is also witnessed. There is a Witnessing of this experiencing as well. So therefore we say the One Doer of all phenomena and the One Experiencing of all phenomena must be this Being, this Consciousness itself. It most definitely cannot be a person, because the person is not to be found. So this is part of the understanding.

Then many of us get stuck with this point saying that ‘Okay, I am clear there is no person here’. They say this, you see? They say ‘I am clear that there is no person here, but why don’t other people get this?’ You see the irony in this? ‘I am clear that there is no person here, but why doesn’t my partner get this?’ Or ‘Why don’t other people that I come in contact with understand?’ You see? So we claim to have dropped the personhood here, very conveniently for ourselves, but we refuse to drop the sense of personhood for others. If there is no person here, then there cannot be any person anywhere.

So all is a doing of Consciousness itself. So not only must we see there is no person here, we also see that no person ever existed actually. It was all just one big movie or video game.

Alright, I’ve been rambling on for some time, let me catch up on the chat. So I hope this answered Ananya and Aryev.

Zoe says, “Mike is here in satsang today.” Very good. It was very nice chatting with you briefly the other day. I’m very happy you joined in. Very good. Namaste, Namaste.

Shinein says, “Is the sense of fear something Consciousness welcomes? The sense of excitement before the rise of fear seems to welcome the anticipation of an event. If we stayed before this fear, before this, can fear be transcended? Or non-existent from experience?”

The mind cannot figure out why anything appears. The mind tries to get an understanding of why fear appears or when it will disappear, or any emotion. At best, the mind can just see that there are some patterns that seem to exist. So actually what happens is that any emotion can come; we’ll take fear as an example. So fear arises. Fear is here, it is arising. And we conjure up actually the entity, a separate entity for whom it is arising. So if it is before we are supposed to speak onstage, we call it anxiety which is happening to the person. But if it is before we are going on an exciting road trip or a holiday, we say this is so much excitement. Energetically anxiety and expectation, excitement are not very different. If you were to look at them just as energies, you will see that anxiety and expectation, excitement, are not very different. But it is the labeling which causes all the problem.

So you are right to the extent that when it comes like excitement, we say ‘Oh, this is so good, such a nice feeling’. But when it comes as anxiety or stage fright, then we say ‘Oh, I wish that this was not there’. So the only trouble is in the interpretation of it. If you were to be completely open and non-resistant to all that is appearing, then you will see that none of this has any power over us. And then we do not invent the idea of this separate me, which is the seeming experiencer of these emotions. There is no individual entity which experiences this emotion. We cannot say one thing about this individual entity. Yet we are so convinced that it must exist. You see? So in the play of Maya, in the play of this Consciousness, all is allowed to appear and to be let go of. It is for its own play. Who is trying to understand it? So if we stop labeling fear as uncomfortable or a negative emotion, then we see that fear also is nothing at all to us. Just another appearance.

Ananya says, “I see that when the idea of personhood keeps getting weak, there is life flowing beautifully as it is.”

Exactly. Life is always flowing so beautifully, but in our clinging to our concepts about what life should be, in our clinging to the concepts of the life of a person, we tend to seem to miss this beauty which is ever present. So much sense of wonder in every moment. And we miss it because we are busy planning the life of the person. We are busy deciding what should happen or what not should happen. We cannot control the flow of this life. What tools do we have to control the flow of this life? What control have we had in the past? What plans can we ensure in the future? So ultimately, it is this arrogance, this resistance of the ego which says ‘Without my intervention, God will make a mess of my life’. And we end up believing this thought; that the Creator, Preserving and Destroyer of this universe will make a mess of my life, or not pay my bills, without my individual intervention. And yet in the same breath, we say that God is everywhere. Then if God is everywhere, then who is this ‘my’ whose intervention is required? It’s only a huge sham. It is not true. It’s very good.

Louise says, “Father, then it is only to recognize that Consciousness is playing this game of personhood?”   Yes, that is the game.   “The recognition that it is a game that is being played by myself as Consciousness?”

I’ll read again. ‘The recognition that it is a game that is being played by myself as Consciousness?’ Yes, yes. Many, many games actually. Inside the dream, the dream seems like the waking state. So we say that in one seeming night, we could live many, many lifetimes of many different dreams, which all seem complete in the waking state once we seem to be ‘inside them’. All these games are being played in the light of the same Consciousness. Very good.

Soham says, “Yes, we’re stuck in the ‘others are persons doing good and bad’ for a while.”

Yes, yes. It’s very subtle. ‘I have seen that there is no person here, so all is happening by the grace of God Itself, by the grace of Consciousness, but the others don’t realize this hence they must be doers’. That’s the joke, isn’t it?

Shineon says, “Yes, thank you, very clear. All is welcome. All energy is everywhere.”

Very good. So beautiful, very good. And once this is seen, that all is welcome…, all is just appearing and dissolving in my own light, then all the struggle seems to get diminished on its own. Suffering is only a resistance to what is. And every time now suffering arises, we can see what is still being resisted. It is that simple. So suffering is only a resistance to what is. And as long as there is no resistance, there is no suffering. But when suffering arises, it shows us what is still being resisted. So it is actually to be embraced and welcomed, because it shows us what still remains. This is very good.

Ananya says, “So the idea of cause and effect is completely false then, Father? Something leads or is caused because of something?”

There is only one cause, which is Consciousness. Only one cause, and one that gets affected, which is Consciousness. So we can either say there is no cause and effect, or we can say that cause and effect are two, or there is one cause and one effect. All for one. This one Being. Because anything else, to say anything else, would imply the presence of an individual personal identity.

Bhagavati says, “Thank you, Soham.”  Very good.

Denan says, “So in situations where I hear an ‘I’ thought and experience a doer, such as ‘I am going to work more hours next week. I am going to clean the house’, I should just drop the next thought?”

Yes. Because these thoughts are not required. They only perpetuate the delusion of doership. They are talking to you as if you are a person who needs the intervention of these thoughts for life to go in a particular way. But when we looked, we say that we can identify who is being spoken to. Also, most Beings cannot identify who is speaking. That is why we have this wrong number example, isn’t it? We picked up the wrong number, and the wrong number, someone on the other end, started giving us instructions, and we have blindly been following it. Which is like thoughts come saying ‘You should do this, you should not do that. This should happen, this should not happen. He is good, He is bad’. All this is basically one big wrong number. And in the wrong number, if we ask ‘Who is speaking?’ or ‘Who is being spoken to?’ (either of these questions will do), ‘Who is speaking?’ or ‘Who is being spoken to?’ …, if we just were to ask with an open mind, we will see that all of this was just one big joke. It was all just one big wrong number, actually.  And when we let go of this, then we cannot invent the concept of a doer. You see?

So you say ‘The doer still comes so strong’. Even ‘I am being. I am letting things go.’ Yes? So let go of all these interpretations and then show me where is the doer. It is only an imagined one. You see, when we say ‘strong’ we mean that a lot of belief is given to it. So the strength is not coming from the concept. All concepts are just nothing; they’re just concepts. The seeming strength comes from our belief in them. You see? So the concept could be that ‘I am a great person’. So this ‘I am a great person’ could mean something to you only if you have invested a lot of belief in it. To another, it could be the belief that ‘I am a terrible person’. Because a lot of belief has been invested in that. Just as a pure thought, it could have come and gone. But just with the investment of belief, it seems to become a strong part of our identity. You see?

See, any thought could come. A thought could be that ‘I should walk on the Himalayas’. And if you put a lot of belief into this thought right now, you will feel that just becomes like a strong desire. It becomes part of the…, a strong part of the imagined persona. And we say the person itself has changed, with the acceptance or belief in this thought. So every moment the person is changing, depending on what we are believing or not. But what is at the core of this person? There is nothing. It is only a set of ideas. Or as Louise says very nicely, it is just a clump of ideas. Which is very malleable actually, constantly changing.

Baba says, “Thank you Anantaji.” Very welcome.

I hope it’s clearer, Denan.

Okay. So Denan asks, “Yes, embarrassing to ask this question that I feel I know the answer to, and yet somehow I feel I must ask.”

Yes, you must ask. It’s very good. Of course, we’ll reduce five marks for you from the Advaita test [Laughter].

So, Zoe says, “I still keep thinking there is one doer, what do I do now?”

Yes, just let go of this thought. The one doer does not need the intervention of any thought.

Kapil says, “Yes, thanks Denan. This is the sticky one here as well.”

Nothing is so sticky, just let it go. Because in our belief that it is sticky, it will stick around more. All power to all these concepts come from you own belief. Your belief is the power.

Aryev says, “But the experience shows that decisions, goals, do have an effect. And sciences like jyotish are very accurate and valid. How do we understand those experiences in the light of what you are saying?”

Yes, so one can have the experience that jyotish is very valid. Another can have the experience that my jyotish, (Jyotish, what he means is astrological chart, or some astrological patterns). So, one can have the experience that it is very valid. Another can have the experience that it’s very unvalid. But this much must be clear to you, that it cannot of planets somewhere which are controlling your life, isn’t it? And if it is not a set of planets which are controlling your life…, and if you say…, let’s go with your assumption that they are very accurate. So if you say that these planets are giving you some insight into where life will be, you see, then you are already saying that Consciousness itself can do all of this and that is why this pattern is discernable, isn’t it? If there was an individual doer, then how would your astrological chart work? Because then you are deciding moment to moment based on what thoughts are coming? And you will have the choice which thought to pick up or not?

See, I’m referring to you as a person now, because of the presumption of individual doershiop. So if jyotish works, if astrology works, then that completely refutes the concept of individual doership, isn’t it? And then people will say ‘Well, but partly it is destiny and partly it is free will’. Just completely baloney actually. Completely baloney, because a small movement changes the whole universe. That is why they say that a butterfly flapping somewhere can bring a storm in the Amazon. You see, everything is so interconnected that whatever happens seems to change every bit of the universe. Then to say that ‘I have some free will as an individual person’ means that you can change the entire universe with your next action. See?

So if there is some way to access this pattern of how Consciousness will play out, then that is said to be true forecasting or whatever it is called. Actually, here there is no interest in any of this now, because there is so much wonder in every moment. There is no concern about the future. If this is the last moment in my life, there is no concern about it. And if this Beingness has to go on for another million years, there is no concern about it. But what is completely clear is that there is no individual person here. Hope we’re able to shed some more light on that.

Denan says, “Thank you, Anantaji,”

Yes, yes. We deducted five marks. [Lovingly gazes and playful laughter]

Louise says, “Not sure if this question came through, will say again.”

No this question did not come through, maybe I missed it. Yes, if any of you find that something got missed, please feel free to type it again.

She says, “Father, trying keeps happening. There was a feeling it should be dropped and frustration that it wouldn’t stop. Now it is seen that all of this is just an appearance too. The trying included.”

Yes. Who is the doer of the trying? It is the same game, it is the same player. It’s all good.

Soham said, “There is unbelievable joy in this, Father.” Very good. “No problems or worries in this Light.” Very good.

Aryev says, “I think there are two types of thoughts. Ones that occur to us, and those that we can deliberately generate. For example, I can decide right now that I will get up and drink a glass of water and I will be able to do that.”

Yes, this is part of the scam actually. How did you decide that the thought would be to drink a glass of water? Why not to pick up a pen laying on the table? Who is it that made this distinction? You see, which person was this? This is very good that you’re here. If you’re really open and look now, it will get clarified for you. It is very good. Who is it that made the distinction?  You said ‘I decided what the thought will be’. And ‘I decided that it will be to pick up a glass of water’. So how did you decide between all the options of thoughts which were there? How did you create this particular thought? How did you say ‘glass of water’ and not ‘pen on the table’? Who is the one who decided this; can you show me this one? This one is the key to all your questions. Just find this one who decided. Was it this body? Was it this body in some way decided? Which part did you play? This is very good. I like this very much.

Shinein says, “When effort is seen, there is laziness in picking it up again; like too much effort to make an effort; and too much energy needed to pick up effort. Fear is there of job, income, as everything has been dropped, even the effort of Being.”

Yes. Being requires no effort. First we see that Being requires no effort. That is why I never give a practice, which seems effortful. It is impossible to not be. Can anyone stop being now? You say ‘I’m tired of the effort’. So stop all effort, just be dead, like this. [Ananta bows his head down to demonstrate]. Nothing…, don’t pick up anything at all. No effort at all, whatsoever. Did you stop being? What effort could be required to be? It is extremely tiring when there is a person trying to be something. You see, that is the person playing God. And no person can do it, actually. You are already the Supreme One. What effort would it need to make you that?

You see, so if a phone is here [holds up a phone], what effort is required to make this phone a phone? Effort would only mean that I want to change this in some way. Effort is only needed to change this in some way. You see? But you are already the Self. The word itself conveys itSelf. You are the Self already. Now when you drop all effort, you are just this; pure Being is here and pure Witnessing is here. And for a while it will seem like these thoughts will come: ‘I should do this. I should make money. I should not do this. I am not bothered about money’. Either desire or aversion, both these thoughts can be let go of. Neither doing nor not doing, you see? Both are doing, actually. When we decide to ‘not do’ that is also pretending to be a person that can decide. When we decide to ‘do’ that is also a person pretending to be a person that can decide. That is why I say: beautiful neutrality. Let everything flow. The next moment you could find a lot of actions happening through your body. Or the next moment you could find that there is no life energy here in the body, just… falling. And then the mind will say ‘I decided to be lazy’ or ‘I decided to be active’. That is rubbish. You see?

Ustreamer116 says, “Yes, Ananta, there is no interest in knowing the future, predicting. So much joy in being fully here now in the present, graceful moment which is still in this life. Here and all, everywhere eternally.”   Very good. This one sounds like Aradhana.

Then Aryev says, “I agree, the person can’t be found. But there seems to be some free will. Good point on the thought which was picked.” Thank you. “Only some options are available right now. And I picked one of the available ones randomly.”

Listen, listen close, okay? So you said ‘some options are available now’. Did you create these options? So, we said get a glass of water or pick up a pen. Then, the next thought will come from here, just to ‘go read a book’. A thought could com, ‘Oh, I’ve not read Nisgaradatta Maharaj in a long time. Let me go read that’. Even the options are created by Consciousness itself.  This is what you must see. How did you create these options? If you see through this game, you will see what we are talking about. You will see that life is unfolding spontaneously on its own. And the person idea is just a joke.

Okay, so somebody said that it should be ‘Naomi’. Naomi or Naomi? (Ananta offering different pronunciations). So you can correct the pronunciation, whichever way it is best.

So Naomi says, “Anantaji, what can be said of roles in our lives? Years spent in college to learn a profession all seem so unimportant now. The role of therapist, full of categorizing others, makes no sense now.”

Yes. You see the beauty of the Self is that all roles will get played spontaneously. Even all of these roles of college and of therapist, who is doing them? It was always only Consciousness. So it is so beautiful when we let go of all these roles. Yet, life might put us in a position where we find ourself in the therapist chair and we find a patient in front of us. And spontaneously in that moment, you will find that the most auspicious words will appear. And ‘the most auspicious’ does not mean that it will go good or bad depending on what the mind is saying. The ‘most auspicious’ only means that exactly what is meant to happen will appear, as it always has been. So no desire or no aversion. No playing of a role, but no non-playing of the role.

This is the beautiful neutrality of Self. We just show up for the movie without any expectations. Just show up for the movie with no expectations, and see how the movie is playing out. And you will see how your own body, your own body-mind organism is just an element in the same movie. Don’t pick up any thoughts. Even thoughts about something making sense or no sense. Don’t try to come to any conclusions about anything. You just rest in your beautiful neutrality; not knowing what anything is for. Otherwise, there will still be a person who is trying to grasp some understanding; trying to figure something out. Now we are giving no room for this mind, for this ego, for this personhood to stay. Just be in the right now. And right now there is only Presence. All problems, all suffering, all figuring out, needs to happen about the past or future.

Jayani says, “Father, some things arise to say, but they are just mind. Just feel to be here with you. So much love.”  So happy you’re here. Very good.

Naomi says, “Thank you so much. Clear and lovely.”  Very good, very good.

Ustreamer138 says, “Yes, just being here in your presence is enough.”  Thank you so much.

Ananya says, “Water, Father.”  [Reminding Ananta to drink some water, since he had asked for a reminder towards end of satsang at one point a while ago].

Yes, just five more minutes. Good.

Adam says, “No words here. Thank you.”  Thank you too, my dear.

Ustreamer138 says, “No lemon drops, which you like to keep handy Ananta.”  No, not at the moment. That’s okay, just a few minutes left.

Soham says, “Father, just to look at you is wonderful. Last night as I sat quietly I just saw your smiling face and it made me smile so much.”  Yes, very good.

Bhagavati says, “Peace here being with you.” Very good. Same, same. Very good.

Cornelia, thank you so much. Much love. Thank you, Shinein, very good. Thank you, Bhagavatiji.  Thank you, Denan. Very good. Alright, thank you all so very much for being in satsang today.

Moojiji ki jai! [Namaste]

Very good Aryev. Yes, just check on this, it’s very good.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Ah, Rolf says, “Thank you for fine satsang, Anantaji.” Thank you so much.  “Feedback:  good audio, though some few lagging on video stream.” Is it? I see. “Not critical, happy here now.”   Same, same to you. Thank you so much. Thank you for the feedback. Very good. Very good.

Thank you, Jyotika.

How about the rest of you? Did you also find the video lagging? Maybe we need to look at the settings?

Thank you, Lucian. Denan says, “Video is fine here.”  Jyotika says, “No, not here.” Okay. It’s good. Okay, so mostly no lag. But some say, some little bit of lag. Okay.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Namaste] [Blows kiss and waves.]

Sangha: Moojiji ki Jai! Anantaji ki Jai! Thank you. Love you.

So we are speaking of Consciousness as the one doer and one experiencer. And the root of this is that ancient Indian scripture, a line in that scripture, which says “Tvam kartha, tvam bhogtha, tvam kartha, tvam bhogtha.” Which means that ‘You are the doer, (or Thou art the doer), and You are the experiencer’. It’s very good, we’ll discuss this today. It’s very good.

So the only thing, which is ever present; the only thing, which is ever present, is the pure Witnessing itself. The pure Awareness itself is ever present. And all states arise for this Witnessing, and within this Witnessing itself. All states arise within this Witnessing itself. And in this Witnessing, Consciousness or Beingness takes birth. So when there was just pure seeing, the first phenomena, or the Immaculate Conception of the sense I Am is born. This is the pure Being. And when the Presence of this pure Being is seen, then that is called the waking state or the dream states; is the Presence of Consciousness, is the Presence of the so-called conscious states.

So it is clearly seen in the beginning that awareness is all there is. And when this waking state is to happen, there is this birth of this sense of Being. And this Being wakes up, and then in the light of this Being itself, the entire phenomenal universe wakes up. And when this Being is not present, then no phenomenal existence can be there. So all states which are conscious states have the Presence of this sense I Am. In fact, this I Am-ness is Consciousness itself. So all that appears to us is in the light of this. Even in the dream, first there has to be this me, the sense I Am, for the dream to exist. And all is allowed to play out even in the dream. Like there will be a body, all the forces of pain and pleasure, entire universes; all will be seen. It’s not like you come to a dream state and you can reach the edge of a dream. You don’t run out of the dream space or time, it keeps going. It is unlimited. In the same way, this phenomenal world of the seeming waking state, which is actually no different from the dream state, seems to appear with unlimited time and space. Nobody has come to the edge of time or the edge of space.

Then what happens when this sense of Beingness is there, then we see that there are all kinds of appearances. Seemingly external appearances and seemingly internal appearances. But they are all dancing in front of this Awareness itself. So the pure Witnessing remains untouched, but all the appearances start appearing. Then what happens, we see that the seemingly internal appearances…, we see that there could be a thought, which is just another appearance. There could be an emotion, which is just another appearance. But we say ‘It is ‘my thought’. We say ‘It is my emotion’. And in the same way, there are actions which happen through the body and we say ‘It is my action’.

So like my Master says ‘You are not the thinker of your thoughts, nor the doer of your actions’. And when we investigate this purely scientifically, purely scientifically, we can investigate this. And if you just check ‘Did I create my thought? Is there an individual entity called a person who created a thought?’ And ‘Is there an individual entity here who decided to do an action or not?’ You will see that it is completely untrue. No such individual personal entity exists. You will see that it is purely imagined. It is only made up of the beliefs that we carry. So like we say, the person is only the sum total of all the beliefs which have been carried up to this point. And as we let go of these beliefs, we see that the individual entity called the person is completely non-existent. But what does exist is the light of Beingness itself. This Presence I Am-ness cannot be denied in the waking state.

In the waking state, nobody can truly deny their own existence as the Presence I Am. Nobody can truly say ‘I am not’. And we see it was only in the light of This that the phenomenal world continues to move around. Whenever this sense of I Am is present, whatever state it might be, there is some movement. You see? So all this is happening through the light of Consciousness itself. That is why we say that Consciousness is the one doer. Because we see that there is a beautiful pattern of movement. Everyone’s heart seems to be moving. Breath seems to be happening. Gravity seems to be working. Electricity seems to be flowing. Magnetism seems to work. And each with some predetermined constants and rules. Evolution seems to occur.

So what is the Supreme Intelligence, which is keeping track of all of this? Like I jokingly say, was there a committee that sat and decided on what the value of gravity must be? What Supreme Intelligence keeps track of mutations in every next generation? What we call evolution. What is the Supreme Intelligence, which is keeping track? You see? And what is the Supreme Intelligence, which is keeping track, so that from generation to generation, the body which is being received by humans seem to have bigger heads? So it must be this one Consciousness itself. This Being itself, which is the Light of this universe, must be this Light. Therefore we say this One is the One Doer. Who is making the neurons fire? Who is making light travel at a constant speed? Who has created the rules of physics, chemistry, and biology?

So all scientists have so far come to conclusions about what is going on. And at what rate they happen. But nobody is able to tell us why it happens in this particular way. Nobody can tell us why light travels at a particular speed. Nobody can say who decided this would be the speed of light, isn’t it? Therefore for me, it is completely clear. That only in the light of this Being, this Consciousness, all of this is done by itself. Because this Consciousness is present, is ever-present in the now. And the person is never present except for in our imagination. Consciousness is ever-present in the now. The person is never present, except for in our imagination. So that was the part of our being the One Doer.

Then we say, why do we say that Consciousness is also the One Experiencer? And in this you must see that there is a difference between the pure Witnessing and the experiencing of phenomena. I know this can be a point of confusion for some of you, so today we can clarify this. There is the pure Witnessing, which is untouched by all phenomena, and yet there is an experiencing of phenomena. So if I eat an ice cream, there is an experiencing of taste. And even this experiencing of taste ultimately is Witnessing by the Pure Awareness. But the experiencing of taste can only happen in the Presence of Beingness itself. Again, there is no person which is experiencing anything. This person cannot be found. But there is the presence of Beingness here. You see?

So experiencing through senses or internal imagery, memories, internal emotions being experienced, all again happens in the Presence of Being itself, and this experiencing is also witnessed. There is a Witnessing of this experiencing as well. So therefore we say the One Doer of all phenomena and the One Experiencing of all phenomena must be this Being, this Consciousness itself. It most definitely cannot be a person, because the person is not to be found. So this is part of the understanding.

Then many of us get stuck with this point saying that ‘Okay, I am clear there is no person here’. They say this, you see? They say ‘I am clear that there is no person here, but why don’t other people get this?’ You see the irony in this? ‘I am clear that there is no person here, but why doesn’t my partner get this?’ Or ‘Why don’t other people that I come in contact with understand?’ You see? So we claim to have dropped the personhood here, very conveniently for ourselves, but we refuse to drop the sense of personhood for others. If there is no person here, then there cannot be any person anywhere.

So all is a doing of Consciousness itself. So not only must we see that there is no person here, we also see that no person ever existed actually. It was all just one big movie or video game.

Namaste everyone, a very warm welcome to satsang today. Moojiji ki Jai.

Thank you very much for joining in. And if this is your first time in satsang, the way to ask questions is through the chat window. I actually logged in a little bit earlier today to look at some of the correspondence which I got on Facebook. I feel it will be a little bit easier to answer in this way. I see some of you are here already. Welcome. Welcome. So let me take a few minutes to look at the messages that I have got.

Soham said, “Dear Father, when I pray to you it is clear that I’m speaking to Mooji and to Lord Shiva and to the eternal Buddha. I’m also speaking to myself. As me-as-a-person is only a thought, and so are also Ananta, Mooji, Lord Shiva and the eternal Buddha. Grace has made these thoughts to arise. How and why I don’t know, but I am so grateful. The paradoxes I spoke of in an earlier message are only paradoxes from the point of view of a person. Here in this purity, no paradoxes exist. No Father, no son. No God and no Buddha, no time, no space. Only this one purity we call Awareness.”

So beautiful. Look at those words. Very good.

Soham continues, “The eternal Tao that can be spoken of is not the eternal Tao; so said the ancient saint. These words ring true now, yet words must be used. As words are spoken in prayer, often the truth comes as insight through seeing the untruth of the spoken words. So it was tonight, dear Father. Then only silence. ” And then he says, “This Being is not good at poetic words.”

[Ananta laughs]. Very poetic words. After such beautiful words, you cannot say this.

Soham continues, “My words can never seem to adequately convey what is seen.” Yes, that is true. “I leave that to you, my dear Father. Always at your feet. So much love.” So much love to you. It’s very beautiful. It’s very good.

Then Rashmi said, “Father, noticed something today. The homemaker identity wants to take credit for handling some rough situations in a very calm way today, and some disappointment arose when seen that the identity doesn’t exist.”

So there was an identity which was trying to prove that it can be done very calmly. You see? And this idea of this identity also was blown away, and then came disappointment that even this identity, which wants to do things calmly, doesn’t exist. It is completely true.

Rashmi continues, “The identity has a lot of juice here. Surrender this at your feet, Father.”

But if you can already say that it doesn’t exist…, if you already say that it doesn’t exist, then it has already lost most of its juice, isn’t it? Still this interpreter is trying to say that it has a lot of juice here. But just like I cannot believe this now, you also must not believe this. Because you’re already saying that it does not exist. Very good.

Clare said, “There’s a fuzzy, pulling, maya energy here this morning. As I type I can see that I am unaffected by it, but my consciousness keeps drifting into it. I’m not sure what to do about it.”

Maya is also a projection of Consciousness itself. In fact, all that is phenomenal, which is projected by Consciousness itself, is called maya. You see? So it is not just that Consciousness is drifting into it. Consciousness is already all there is. But it is attention which keeps drifting to it.

Clare continues, “I’m not sure what to do about it. I surrender all of this at your and Mooji’s holy feet, along with my head and all my sense of responsibility for it, or fight with it.”

Yes. If you can just let this go in this way, it is very good for you. It is the simplest way; to surrender it. Because in the surrendering of it, you will not invent this persona. You will not give belief to a personal identity. There is no individual ‘me’ there who is dealing with it anyway. You see? Very good.

Clare continues, “I also offer at your feet all of the divisive thoughts that are arising about everyone. Thank you. I don’t know where they come from.”

That’s good. Thoughts will always be this way. So never expect your thoughts to confirm your Freedom or to be aligned to your True Nature, to be aligned to your True Self. That is not the nature of thought. The nature of thought is to keep personhood alive. But thought does not have this power. Therefore it constantly auditions for your attention and belief, and when your belief is given, then we seem to be caught in this false idea, false notion of personhood. Without this, no trouble at all. Very good.

Let me look at one last question that I received on Facebook which is from Ishani.

Ishani says, “Dear Father, I feel like there is a test run happening with this new self as I feel bliss even with plans of my holiday to Himachal Pradesh spoiled because of dad who is admitted to hospital for a heart condition. He is fine now; and feel this just happened to make me see even clearer how everything, even seemingly difficult situations, are perfectly orchestrated to sift any last bits of identification.”

This is perfectly said. The Universe does not make a mistake. And it has perfect timing. And if you have this approach, then nothing can ever be a problem for you. Anything that is arising now, you’re looking at that as an opportunity to find out what bits of identification still remain. Now the trickster cannot trick you. Now the Supreme Intelligence has outsmarted the trickster ego. This is very beautiful. To see Grace, and an opportunity to transcend, in all situations that are arising, is true spirituality. It is very beautiful. Very good. Alright. I believe that was it from last night. [Facebook questions].

So very warm welcome once again to satsang today. Moojiji ki Jai. [Namaste] Very good. And if this is your first time in satsang, know that the way to ask questions is through the chat window. Since I’ve been speaking for awhile, I presume that all is good with the A/V. Ananya, very good to have you back. You need to take better care of the care, isn’t it? You know what I’m talking about.

She says, “Father, there was this one juicy thought while I was in pain. It said something like, ‘You have to conquer pain’.”

You cannot conquer anything. Don’t try to conquer something. And when you drop this effort towards conquering something, then you will see that it is already transcended. Pain will be transcended. It will not be conquered. There is no person that can say that ‘I am beyond pain’. Only testimony can come from Beingness itself which says ‘Pain is allowed to come but I continue to be untouched by it’. There’s a difference in tone there. You know? So don’t believe any interpretation about the pain. And with this, there will be so much acceptance that you might find that it is very manageable actually. But if you try to fight it or conquer it, then that is when the trouble starts actually. There is actually nothing which is unmanageable for us. All that is given is our own projection. Then how can it be that we cannot manage it? It is part of our own game. It is our own dream. Don’t try to conquer anything at all. Very good. Namaste.

Kapil says, “The thought of not planning anything at all is disturbing a lot here. Feels like losing control. After these satsang sessions, I understand it is the trickster. Surrendering this in the fire.”  Very good.

The person will say that ‘I am losing control’. But what control did the person have? Can any person predict the next fifteen minutes of their life? Can any person predict the next fifteen minutes of their life? Anything can happen in any moment. What control does the person have? So as long as we believe ourselves to be a person then we will give belief to this fear of losing control.

Then you can be identified with the sense of Beingness, or the sense I-Amness. This Beingness is completely untouched by any event and does not have this kind of fear. That’s very beautiful that you can see through these tricks of the ego now, and you’re able to surrender it. Very good. Namaste.

Ananya says, “Yes Father. So happy to have exposed this. When you’re running this Being’s life there’s nothing to worry about.”

Rashmi says, “Father. Love you.” Love you too, my dear.

Soham says, “Just so happy to be here today, Father.”

I’m also very happy you’re here. And we read out your beautiful note at the beginning today. I started a bit early so I’m not sure what time you came in; but we started with your note actually.

So ultimately all of this only boils down to one thing. Ultimately it all boils down to only one thing: What is it that I’m identified with? What do I consider myself to be?

As long as I still consider myself to be a person, that is just continuing the trouble. Even if we consider ourselves to be a very Spiritual person. Even if I believe myself to be an Awakened person or a Free person, (which actually is an oxymoron; there is no such thing as a Free ‘person’). Because Freedom is freedom from the person. So what is it we are identified with? And as soon as it is seen that I am just Awareness itself, in the simplest way… I am just Pure Awareness itself… then from there, which suffering can we speak of? It’s very good.

Soham says, “I came on just as you were reading.”

Ustreamer271 says, “Has the Self within you realized itself .., or is it just fooling around?”

You see. The Self is always just fooling around. It is all a play of Consciousness itself. The only thing realized was that there is no person here. The Self does not need to realize itself. The Self can be nothing but the Self. Therefore Self-realization is only the seeing that what I believed myself to be, which was the ego, which was the person, was never true. Therefore there are no methods here for how the Self should realize itself. The Self is already the Self. So all of this is the fooling around of the Self.

Lonai says, “I want to thank you here, Ananta, for taking all my garbage, good and bad.” Very welcome.

Rashmi says, “Didn’t realize the satsang started early.” Yes. We read out your note as well so you can go back to the recording and see.

Ustreamer905 says, “Are you free from ‘person’, or fooling yourself? Where is ‘I Am’ in awareness?”

‘Are you free from ‘person’, or fooling yourself?’ This is a beautiful question. What would be the fooling? The fooling would be that ‘I am still a person, pretending to be awakened’. But would that make me not awake? Would that make me not the Self? So even if full pretense is going on…, if it’s a full drama…, does that make me not the Self? There is no concern here about this.

Then the question was, ‘Where is the ‘I Am’ in Awareness?’ So this Pure Watching, Pure Seeing, Pure Witnessing gives birth this Pure Being itself. So if I were to ask you, ‘Can I stop being now?’ If I were to ask you, ‘Can you stop being now?’ We cannot. This Being is the sense ‘I Am’. See?

Shanti says, “Anantaji, I can’t form any questions but there is a niggling and nagging here about I don’t know exactly what. Just allowing it to pass as if it’s just indigestion. Should I try to look more closely?”   No, no, no…

Sometimes when this switch-over of power is happening, form personhood to Beingness, then there comes an unsteady state. There comes this unsteady state and we’re not able to put our finger on it and say ‘This is what it is’. Because thoughts also start losing their voice. They just seem uncomfortable. Something seems to be niggling and we’re not able to figure out. Just don’t resist it. Be completely open. Don’t believe any interpretation about it. It will not last long.

Zoe says, “In a talk with Jehovah Witnesses today, Father, I was talking partly with compassion and love, but partly with a big, fat spiritual ego. Burning this here.”

All these situations will come, just to expose what still remains, so that it can be burnt in the fire of satsang. In the light of your own seeing actually, it is being burnt. That’s why I say the Universe is so beautiful. Very good. I’m very happy you were able to see this from a distance; to see this objectively. Very good.

Ustreamer905 says, “It’s a nice fooling around”.  Yes.

Ajnani says, “Fooling around”

Ginger says, “Anantaji, help me see. My experience is that Consciousness is fooling around but that Awareness is not fooling around or doing anything at all…, just helplessly Being.”

That Consciousness is fooling around…, what does that mean? That Consciousness is the One Doer? Consciousness is the One Doer of All actions. In the light of its Own Self, Consciousness is playing this game. All of it is one big fooling around actually. Because Consciousness never became this person. But to play this game, to give it more entertainment value, it has to put on this garb of personhood somehow. And now when this garb of personhood has been removed, we see that Consciousness is just shining its light, and this play seems to emerge for it own entertainment. But Awareness is not doing anything itself…, you’re absolutely right…, except being aware.

It’s an Aware Presence. But I won’t say ‘helplessly’, would I? It is not concerned with anything at all. It’s just Pure Awareness itself. So helpless would also be an interpretation from the perspective of the mind, saying that ‘This is so helpless that it cannot do anything’. So when we say it is nothing, you must remember that it is the full nothing, from which God is born. In the light of this God, all this is happening.

Ustreamer905 says, “That way animals are ever awake.” Yes

Shanti says, “So funny, Zoe. They came to visit me yesterday, too.”  Yes. Across different continents they came.”

Shanti says, “Thank you, that is very reassuring.”

Soham says, “Chuckling, Zoe and Shanti.”

Ustreamer905 says, “Whole show is illusive. Where is the need of satsang then?”

If you have seen this to be completely true for you…., if you have seen this…, if this is your living experience, then there is no need of satsang for you.

Ginger says, “Thank you.”   Very welcome. [Gazes Lovingly]

Dorthe says, “Light is fine.”

Ustreamer216 says, “You are the light, Ananta. Corny, I know; couldn’t help it.”

Soham says, “Feeling so happy and content just watching you, Father. No need for words.” [Smiles]

Ustreamer905 says, “So, the power in which the whole show gets created does not know its Job well…, that’s why [what?] so many self-proclaimed Gurus preach?”

So you presume that ‘the self-proclaimed Gurus’ (as you put it)…, do you think that they are beyond the Power? Do you not feel that it is the same Power which is doing His Job, which is working through these Gurus as well? Is there any Power except this Power? So if He’s doing His job well, then this is maybe one of the ways in which He’s doing it. There is no other Power besides Consciousness.

Dorthe says, “Satsang means being in the Presence of Truth.”

Yes. It means being in the light of Consciousness itself, where this false sense of personhood will be washed away.

Shanti says, “When you shine your light, the darkness cannot stay.”

Baghavatiji says, “Just listening. Sitting with you.”  So welcome.

Ustreamer216 says, “Satguru is all there is. Thank you, thank you, Ananta. At your feet beloved.”  Very welcome, my dear.

Ustreamer905 says, “Is it a guess or a conviction?”

Not even sure now what you’re referring to.

Zoe says, “At your feet, Beloved.”

Om says, “Here now, Father.”

Very good, Om. You want to ask your question? Okay, so we’ll look at Om’s question first and then we’ll come to the others.

Om says, “The energies have been present for a while now, Father. I don’t know what I want to ask as such. Just want to hear you talk.”

So this energy, we can bring it to satsang now. In the light of satsang, do you still see this energy?

Then Om says, “It’s not enjoyable when it’s around. It can be quite strong, though I let all thoughts go. And it comes largely when I am by myself.”

Are you sensing it now? It’s very good that you are now able to expose it in satsang.

Om says, “No, Father. It comes at an opportune time.”

It will leave you. And even if it stays, it will not bother you at all. You’ve already come a long way. And in the light of your own seeing, this kind of energy will not survive.

And then you say, “I have to say it hasn’t been unmanageable thus far. That’s why I held off speaking to you about it. It feeds on fear of being alone as such. ”

Now you’ve brought it to satsang. It will lose all its power soon.

Om says, “I know this isn’t true. Not sure why it feeds on this.”

Some of these are strong, repressed energies which have been repressed for a long, long time; and in satsang they have been getting released. It’s completely fine.

Ustreamer905 says, “Awareness is pure, still and silent witnessing. Where is, in it, any power to move?”

That’s what we said, that in Pure Seeing there’s the birth of this Pure Being. And when this Being ‘I Am’ is born, then the world is full of movement. The world is constantly moving, isn’t it? .., which is the power that makes this world move. It is your own Being. This Being that you cannot stop now. So from Pure Seeing itself, Pure Being is given birth; and in the light of this Pure Being this whole of manifest, phenomenal Universe, Multiverse seems to function.

Shanti says, “Very interesting about ‘false’ gurus, because I bought a book on Ashtavakra Gita by Ramesh, and then found out about all the scandal around him. Are his interpretations and commentaries valid?”

As some of you know I went to Ramesh for a while, and I believe that his commentaries and interpretations were very valid.

Ustreamer216 says, “Wow, so beautiful your face is, Ananta. When you look into the camera, it is just like one Soul, one Being, one Self.”

[Smiles.] Yes. It is your own sense of Oneness which is saying this. It is very beautiful.

Om says, “Tears looking in to your eyes, Father.”

So much love to you. All these energies will be nothing for you, nothing. They are already nothing. Very good.

Jayani says, “Namaste, Father. Much busyness here, feelings of exhaustion and fragmentation.” Feelings of exhaustion and fragmentation. “Giving it all to you.” Very good.

See, when all this beautiful process of surrendering happens, what would typically happen is I would say that there is a ‘me’ here that is feeling all of this; but in actuality there is no such ‘me’. There is no such ‘me’ who is feeling anything at all. It is purely imagined. So in this beautiful process of surrender, we lose all concern about this one. Then we see that everything is allowed to flow in its own beautiful way, without having any sense of trying to control something or trying to change something. In this way, we stop resisting. And in this state of beautiful neutrality, of non-resistance, this is Freedom. Very good.

Ah, Ginger says, “When something is seen as untrue but continues to arise, is there anything for us to do? Just keep bringing it to inquiry?”

Yes, if it is coming up…, and if you have seen it to be untrue and it is coming up, you will not even actually notice it. But if it is still coming up, it is transcending more and more. As you keep letting go, it can come whenever it wants; you will not even notice. Actually we notice very few of the thoughts which pass through us. Just like when we enter a room, we notice very few of the objects placed there.

So as we divest belief from all of these thoughts, we will see that attention also stops going to them. But if attention is continuing to go there, it means some sense of some meaning or some value might still persist. And as you keep letting go, this cleaning up process is continuing. Just let it continue and you will stop noticing this kind of thought at all. Very good.

Lonai says, “An urge arises to argue against anything being repressed for a long time. Surrendering this urge to you.”

Yes, you can simply surrender this. Let it all come and go. None if it is your problem now. Just let go.

Ah, Ustreamer 905 has some questions which is… [reads questions under breath]…we’ve looked at all this before, isn’t it?

Shanti says, “I didn’t know that, Father. It felt valid to me. Actually the criticisms were seen to be immature and with a lot of identity.”   Yes. [Smiles.]

Rashmi says, “So much Grace. Thanking each one of you.”

Om says, “I don’t know what good fortune we have to be in your Presence, Father.”

It is actually my good fortune to be in all of your Presence. It is very beautiful.

Zoe says, “Yes, yes, Om, same feeling very much here.”

And then Om says, “And then you say something like this.”  [Nods and smiles.]

So, like we were saying earlier, if there is still a sense of belief that ‘I must be a separate person, I must be this individual ego’ irrespective of what we know, irrespective of what kind of knowledge we have, no matter how spiritual this person might seem to become, it is not Freedom.

So the idea of satsang is not to become a spiritual person. It is to see that this person just does not exist. Because all that a person knows how to do is to attack and defend, to confirm or convince. If you know that you are the Self alone, then what is there to attack and who is there to defend?

Rashmi says, “Father, there is this feeling sometimes that, even while waking, there is really no displacement; like sometimes in a dream you cannot move even if you want to.”

Yes. You, as pure Witnessing, is unmoving; you are always unmoved. If you are all there is, where could you go? If you are all there is, where could you go?

Om says, “It is in this Grace that we have the love to say ‘I give it all up’ and to say ‘Thy will be done’. Love you so much, Father.”    Love you too, my dear.

Ananya says, “Love you so much, Father.”   Love you, too.

Rashmi says, “Walking Father.”   [Laughs.] Yes, walking, waking.”

Ginger says, “Just wanted to let everyone know that Stacy is here listening on the phone.” Very good, Stacy.

Zoe says, “Today it was as though I needed to defend my understanding or it would disappear somehow. So silly.”

But it’s very good this got exposed in this way. You see, the true understanding can never leave you. If it needs effort to be remembered then it is just from the mind. So now this was another trigger for you to let go of all effort to understand or to remember anything. With no memory at all, even if there’s no memory here at all: can you stop being now?  Being is ever-present. No reference to the past or projection of the future is required. [Laughs.] Very good.

Lonai says, “Conflict between screaming for the person idea to disappear completely and deep fear of being invisible is seen. Surrendering all this to you.”

You see, it is only the person who gets conflicted, and it is only the person that is screaming for the person to disappear. You must see this now, because what will happen is that the person itself will try to convince you that ‘I am trying hard to get rid of the person’.

Being does not need to do anything at all. Being is always the Being itself. It is only the person which pretends to pick up these sort of battles. It is the person which is trying to get personal freedom. So it is this person that must be divested of all our belief now; actually, this one. Who is trying to be on your side? The person is trying to get rid of personhood. The ego is trying to kill the ego. You see? It cannot happen. It is freedom from this person idea, not freedom for the person.

So let all this go on. You stay as the Witnessing of all of this, and say that ‘All of this is now the Master’s problem, none of this is my worry’.

Then you say that there’s some fear of not existing or of being invisible. It’s very good for this fear to get exposed. You are the ultimate Witnessing itself. You are pure Awareness itself, within which the whole world takes birth. What could you be fearful of? Who could see you in reality anyway? All this stuff is from ‘the same guy’. You just let it go.

Shanti says, “As everyone in satsang is sharing, I cannot see the difference between us. It’s like I have all these mouths, so diverse, but all Me. I don’t know if that makes any sense.”

It makes complete sense. Very beautiful. And that’s how it seems. It is very beautiful. What beautiful words all of you wrote. This is truly the Sangha of Rumi’s…, I feel sometimes. [Laughs.]

Rashmi says, “You spoke my words too, Shanti.”

Ajnani says, “Nowhere to go. Ever Here.”

Yes. Very good. Your words also, Ajnani, so beautiful. Very good.

Zoe says, “Tears and love here. Thank you, dearest Father.”   You too.

Atma says, “Clear, all. Pure Awareness I Am.”   Very good.

Lonai says, “It is the person trying to get personal freedom.”  Yes exactly.  “This is definitely my Master’s problem now. Feeling of more space now. Thank you.”

Yes. You are boundless Space. You are completely free, boundless Space itself. If you believe any of these beliefs or ideas then it seems like you lose this space, this spaciousness; but in reality it never goes. If you let go of this person idea, you will see that this space was always here, ever-present.

Soham says, “This sangha is so beautiful.”   Yes. You are the sangha. Very good.

Ananya says, “You looking in to the camera is enough. Dear looking. You’re so beautiful, Father.”

[Smiles.] I actually look like Rudolf the Red-nosed Reindeer these days, isn’t it? [Laughs.] But because of your love, it makes that also look good.

Jayani says, “So grateful, all seen to be nothing. So much love to you.”

So much love to you too, my dear. You stay holding my hand wherever you go. And we’ll see everything through together. I’m always with you.

Ajnani says, “All sangha is so beautiful, so much love.” Yes. “Tears and love.”

Jayani says, “Tears. Thank you beloved Father.” Very welcome.

Whatever is happening, you stay in my heart. Not that you can leave, but you know what I mean.  Good.

Soham says, “Absolutely overflowing with love now, such bliss in this Presence.”

This is beautiful, isn’t it? Those with just dry knowledge, those with just an intellectual understanding do not understand this Love, this Presence.

Louise is here, “Forgot after work about satsang.” [Laughs.] We need to send you an alarm clock.  “But catching the love here now.” Very welcome my dear. “So much love.” Very good.

Jayani says,” I can never really be apart from You, only in a dream.” Very good.

Rashmi says, “These eyes just feel like a place-keeper for Seeing.”  Yes.

Shanti says, “Absolutely beyond words, everything.”

Yes. And from this beyond, on its own, you will find that words also emerge. So first we go beyond words, and then this Beyond itself can use the words as it sees fit. And these words will smell of Love and Peace and Joy.

Om says, “You are always in my heart.” [Starts singing these words.] “Never shall we be apart. Om namah, namah shivaya, om namah shivaya.”

Jayani says, “Father, you are my heart.” Yes. Same.

Rashmi has to leave now. So much love.

Bhangavatiji. Om namah shivaya.

Ananya says, “You have replaced me, Father. What else can I ask for?” Exactly. Very good.

Zoe says, “I am blessed beyond measure. All of us are. Thank you, thank you, thank you.”

Thank you all so very much for being in satsang today.

Moojiji ki jai! So much love to all of you. [Blows kiss and waves.]

Sangha:  Moojiji ki Jai !  Anantaji ki Jai !  Thank you. Love you.

Namaste everyone, a very warm welcome to satsang today. Moojiji ki Jai.

Thank you so much for joining in. And if this is your first time in satsang, the way to ask questions is through the chat window. So my area continues to have some power outages, that’s why we are in a different location now. I’m hoping that the audio and video are fine. Namaste, Namaste everyone. Namaste. Okay, A/V is great. Good, good, good. Very good.

So what would you like to speak about today? Welcome, welcome. Namaste. So today, I’m taking requests. [Laughs]. What would you like to speak about? Ah, Rashmi has a question.

She says, “Father, wanting to expose this. Was finding it difficult to drop the thoughts. Such a huge meltdown before satsang.”

So when we say ‘Was finding it difficult to drop the thoughts’ we must first understand that picking up a thought has two parts, as most of you know now; but it’s good to reiterate. Because although the ‘picking up’ process seems like a singular process, it is actually two parts.

The first part is our attention. And sometimes when thought activity is strong, body is tired, all these kind of appearances, then attention is very strongly going to the thoughts. And at these times we don’t say to pull your attention away. We don’t say, because then it becomes a fight. It becomes more effort. So, this is the first part. So attention can go, a lot of thought activity comes, attention can go, but the second part is belief.

So let’s look at this. Because this is what we mean when we say that ‘I find it difficult to drop some thoughts, or to let them go’. So let’s look at this ‘belief’ part of it. So, if a particular belief has not been nurtured in the past; if a particular thought or concept or identity has not been nurtured in the past, you will see now, being in satsang, that new ones can just come and go, mostly. Mostly you will find that new ones can just come and go. But it is the old ones, which have been nurtured and made strong through our own belief in the past, which continue to still have some meaning for us.

So if we find that belief is still going to them, or a sense of meaning is still given to them, then that is also very beautiful actually. Hm? [Laughs] You’ll be surprised I’m saying that; but you can, through this process, you can see those things which you are still misidentified with. What are the concepts that are still being believed in? Hm? So there is no trouble now in any of this. Even if belief is given to something now, and suffering arises, then you can look at that and say ‘Yes, it is clearly seen now that I must be still misidentified with something which is untrue; because I have seen now that all thoughts are referring to me as a person; and the person itself is untrue’. So no matter how hard it tries to convince us, no matter how meaningful it sounds, we have now gone beyond it. And if there are still some remnants of the past, that we’re still not able to withdraw our belief from, it’s good that they come, so that they can get exposed; either in your own light, or in the light of satsang itself. So no fear now about any of this; no fear now about any of this.

Namaste. Welcome. Jyoti says, “Video is crazy, crazy.” How do you mean, ‘crazy, crazy’? Is it alright, or… I’m presuming it’s good-crazy unless you tell me otherwise.

Ah, Clare says, “The heat of an ego tantrum.”

The question was ‘What would you like to speak about today’. So I feel like Rashmi and her question is inter-linked, so we’ll look at this some more. Yes?

So when we say ‘heat of the ego tantrum’ what are we referring to? It can only be two things. Either of the two things, or a combination. Usually a combination of two things, isn’t it? So, it can be a set of thoughts which appear, and simultaneously or sequentially, a set of feelings which appear. And both now we have looked at.

How to deal with thought? Just let go. Divest them of your belief.

How to deal with emotion? Don’t resist them, don’t call them ‘my emotion’. Just see that it is an appearance, and refuse to believe any thought about the emotion also. Simply refuse to believe any thought about the emotion also.

Then you will find that all these tantrums have no power actually. And it will become a distant memory. The tantrums will still come, the ego will still try to throw tantrums; but to you, it will not seem like a tantrum. It will seem like a whisper of a mosquito or something like that. [Laughs] ‘A whisper of a mosquito’ [shakes his head], I’m not sure where these examples come from.

Lucian wants to speak about love. Okay, we’ll do that.

Rashmi says, “A fear that I will never be able to get there.”

Yes. It can be anything; a thought can be any nonsense. Now it can be let go of. Hm? Get where? You see? When there is still some meaning in this ‘get there’ for you, then you’re still confusing freedom to be some state. What’s wrong with the ‘right now’? I know you know this. Yes.

Rashmi says, “The thought that triggered the tsunami of thoughts is ‘This will be left midway; won’t be taken to the end’.”

Okay, then let me look. The video is looking like abstract art [Jyoti says]. Let’s try…How about now? Okay.

So, let’s look at Rashmi’s question again. She said ‘The thought that triggered the tsunami of thoughts is ‘This will be left midway; won’t be taken to the end’. Yes. The ‘end’ is the realization that it was always already here. The Self is what you already are. There is no pot of gold at the end of the spiritual journey; because there is no actual difference between the start and the end of the journey. It is only the realization that ‘I am already this pure Awareness, untouched by anything…, including the journey’. It’s only that the journey-er or the seeker identity is left behind as well.

Okay, let’s see if the A/V got fixed. Okay, so Jyoti and Amaya seem to be getting some other [distorted, psychedelic] video feed, and they’ve tried refreshing; so I’m not sure we can do anything about that. Let’s continue. We had Lucian who said you’d like to speak about Love. Yes.

So love is what? Love is basically the sense that there is no separation; the sense of belonging-ness, the sense of oneness. The sense that there is no separation. So love is very simple actually. Love is very simple actually, and in the pointings in satsang you will find that there is a global love; there is a kind of universal sense of no separation which will arise on its own. Without any expectation, you will find that the way that you are relating to all things becomes more and more universal; becomes more and more without this ‘me’ and ‘another’ feeling. See? And this will happen on its own. So this is pure, natural love. That’s the first aspect I wanted to speak about love.

The second aspect I wanted to speak about…, because the confusion comes in terms of what happens to the ‘special relationships’. So the first aspect was that there will be a global, universal sense of ‘no separation’ which is basically the pure, natural love. Second part of this question could be about what happens to the special relationships with partners and close family. What happens to that love?

Now, what you will find with that is, as we keep saying, the Self has no trouble playing any of these roles. Therefore the love can continue; even the romantic love can arise when it has to. You see? So, there is no dichotomy in that. But what you will find is that there is no need. So it is the need which causes all the trouble in relationships. And most often we find that it is this need which is confused for love…, all the desperation, all the clinginess, all the attention-seeking comes from this aspect of need actually. But you will find that it is impossible to need anything at all. But the love is allowed to flow very naturally. So, no trouble; even in special relationships with our partners, husband, wife, no? No trouble at all as far as that is concerned. So, this is the second aspect of love that I wanted to speak about.

And the third aspect of love, which I feel to speak about now, is love as an emotion or a feeling, here, is constantly at the service of your Holy Presence; of the Holy Presence ‘I Am’. You will find that because there is no need in this Presence ‘I Am’ for even love.., you will find that Love is constantly at your service. You’ll never feel a shortage of any love; because so much Love, so much Peace and Joy…, these emotions will constantly be at the service of one that does not need anything, that you will find that it is so beautiful that you wonder how you ever chased this. That will become a mystery for you because you will see that there is SO much of it; ever-present, always in your service. So remember that you true nature is not to be in service to any emotion. All these emotions and feelings, even the most glorious ones, even the most rarified ones, are always in service to you.

And I don’t need to say, because most of you know, that when I say ‘you’, I’m not referring to the personal ‘you’. I hope that clarifies. And if there’s something else you want to look at, when it comes to the topic of love, we can.

NasimaMoti is here. He says, “Everyone wants to be holy. That’s an acronym ‘holy’. Happy, original, loved and beloved. Yearning for peace, love and divinity and conscious awareness is one prescription.”  Very nice.

And the question is, “But in our spaghetti of relationships, financial blunders and emotional escapades, how do we go about it?”

That’s why I say when we talk about troubles, or we talk about problems, there are only 4 basic problems which can happen in life. All are just a variation of these. First is relationships; love and other relationships. Second is work and finance. So, first is relationships and love, second is work and love; third is body and health. These are the main sources of any problem or trouble. In all our seemingly-spaghetti of complicated life, these are the three main aspects of trouble. The fourth is, which is the final one hopefully, is the struggle to find meaning or the struggle for freedom or the desire for freedom; which also starts off in a personal way. But this is the only one, at the culmination of which, all of this personhood is dissolved. And it is the end of problems actually. So we can say that ‘The desire for freedom arising is a very auspicious desire’ because first it burns away all the other desires, and then it burns itself, the imagined entity which it believed itself to be. See?

So in all of this trouble, we have seen through all of this now, and given you a very, very, very simple pointing. Irrespective of what the ‘disease’ is, the ‘medicine’ is the same. And the simple pointing is: Let go of your next thought. Just let go of your next thought, and then show me the trouble; be it of any variety. No complicated solutions are required. But sometimes the mind needs complication; and that’s why sometimes so much spiritual practice has been created by the Masters. So much spiritual practice has been created by the Masters because the mind is looking for complicated solutions, because it believes that the problem is complicated. Actually it is not; the problem is very simple, it is only belief in thought. And once this belief is divested, then there is no trouble at all. See?

Rashmi says, “Also surrender this need for love, peace and joy.”  Yes. Very good. You see, these things are very subtle. Therefore it’s very good that it comes out in satsang.

[Rashmi], “Seems like it has been picked up, even having been surrendered before.” Yes, it can be like that. It’s okay, it’s good.

Lonai says, “Weird things happen these days. I shared a beautiful teaching of Mooji on my Facebook so I can find it again. And all of a sudden my previous Qi Gong teacher furiously writes to me that I need to let go of this denial and get back to real life. Many other examples like that. I’ve posted many posts like this for many years, but all of a sudden, people start to react.”

Yes, and you’re not the only one. There are some others also who are facing this. When they post quotes from Mooji or from me, then what happens is their previous teachers or previous mentors or people in positions of ‘authority that you had given them’ get very insecure. They feel that it is an attack on them. They feel actually that you are saying that they were inadequate. You see, that’s where it is coming from. It feels like an attack to them because it seems like you are quoting another teacher; it seems like to them that you are saying that they are inadequate. And it is very beautiful satsang for them that this is coming up.

So you just stay with a simple letting go of all thoughts, and let life expose whatever satsang needs to happen through this instrument of our body as well for others; without taking any credit or having any expectation that something auspicious is happening through us. And also, if there is some juice in this for us, then we can see whether it is pointing out our own doubt still. If there is still some doubt that we still have, then it can have some juice for us. So this is an opportunity to transcend our own doubt as well. It is very good.

[Laughs]. I know all of you may find it strange that I keep saying ‘This is very good’. But actually, it is.

Namaste, Atma. Very good.

Clare says, “A lot of opposition is arising at the moment, and I put it at your feet.”

Very good. It’s very good that you don’t call it ‘my resistance’ or ‘my opposition’. It’s very good to look at it like this and say ‘It is arising’, and then just letting it play out or ‘I’m surrendering it. I have no need for it to go or to stay’.

See, when you give something at the feet of the Master, it should not be with a sense of wanting to push it out. Just say that ‘It is here now, I’m exposing it in satsang, I’m surrendering it to the Master, and when it has to go, it will go. Let the Master take care of it now’. And in this way, we remove the sense that ‘It is my resistance’ or ‘my opposition’ or ‘my anger’ or any emotion like that. See? It’s very good.

Cornelia says, “Father, it seems that when ‘I’ appears, all kinds of things appear.”  Yes.  “Probably it is possible to be without the ‘I’ and the apparent problems of ‘I-person’.”

When ‘I’ appears…, so which ‘I’ are you referring to? Because this ‘I’ is the chameleon. You see? Because when I ask you ‘Are you aware now?’ you say ‘Yes, I am’…, but this ‘I’ when you say ‘I am aware now’ is pure Awareness itself, which can be aware of itself. No other ‘I’ can answer this question. Then ‘I’ can also be identified as the pure sense of Being or the ‘I am’. You can say ‘I am Consciousness itself’. Or some Masters say ‘I am God’…, it is not with the sense of saying that the ‘person’ is God, it’s just that what this Beingness is referring to themselves as. You see? And at the birth of this sense of ‘I am-ness’ then this world of duality seems to appear. But if we don’t attach to any attribute then it doesn’t seem like duality. Isn’t it? But when we pick up the independent identity that ‘I am this person’ or ‘I am a man or a woman’ then all this world seems like it has become dual now. So the key is just to not pick up this ‘person’ identity.

As long as you are referring to yourself as the pure sense of Beingness, or the pure Seeing of even this Beingness, the pure Witnessing of even this Beingness, then no trouble can come.

So, like you said, the apparent problem of ‘I-person’. So. what is the way to be without this problem of ‘I-person’? Simple, simple, simple: Let go of your next thought. This is the simplest thing. Very good.

Clare says, “Thank you.”  Thank you, too.  “Exposing all sense of doership and struggle and fighting / managing life.”  Very good. “Allowing it, too.”  Very good.

And as long as we are not believing in the conjured up idea of being a separate individual, then all of this can be naturally allowed. It can come and it will go.

Lizelle says, “Feeling a sense of compassion for a ‘person’ which cannot be other than it is; like a machine.”    [Reads it again]. I’m not really sure I understood that.   “Just pulling attention back to awareness, and letting it be.”

So, if you could rephrase the first part, that would be good, because I’m being a little slow today [chuckles] and I’m unable to understand. I’ll just wait for you to type that again.

Lizelle says, “Every time I write the question, I get the ads.”

Some feeling, isn’t it?  But maybe it’s a good thing that you got the ads, because I couldn’t really understand the question; because you said ‘Feeling a sense of compassion for a ‘person’ which cannot be other than it is; like a machine’. So, I was not actually getting a sense of what the question was. I got that you’re feeling a sense of compassion for a person but I’m not sure whether you’re referring to this person-belief that existed, or you’re referring to another Being who is believing that he is a person or she is a person. So if you could just elaborate a little bit, we can look at it again.

Zoe says, “Questions arising, but when I go to type them, they feel very false.”  Yes. “Love you, Father.”  Love you, too, my child, very much. Very good.

This reminded me of when I went up on the hot seat for the first time with Mooji, (and some of you have seen that video, isn’t it?), and initially there was like ‘There must be a question here somewhere, which I can speak out; any question, just anything’. But it all dissolved so fast.

Adam says, “Thank you, Ananta. Feeling grace. Leaving mind’s preoccupations.”  Very good. Once you leave mind, then no trouble; no trouble. Very good.

Lizelle says, “Okay, back now.”

Yes. What we had said was you said you were feeling compassion for a person; wasn’t sure if you were feeling compassion for this sense of the ‘person-belief’ that existed here earlier, or you’re referring to another Being who is behaving like this, from a sense of personhood. So if you could explain your question a little bit, we can look at it.

And also you can install ‘AdBlock’. We’ll post another reminder on the sangha group to install the Adblocker.

Lizelle says, “I’m referring to my silly old person.”  Yes, yes.

You’re feeling a sense of compassion for the person who cannot be other than it is; like a machine. Yes. Actually even the machine it is not. It is purely imagined. All the doing is happening through Consciousness itself. It is Consciousness playing; Consciousness playing with itself, as itself. So the person is not even real from a phenomenal perspective. So even a robot or a machine, it is not. It is all a play of Being itself, it is a play of God. So it is just something which never existed at all. And you will find it difficult even to feel any compassion for it; because it is nothing, it was just a belief, it was just an idea, you see? And I can jokingly say [Laughs] that it was a terrible idea; or one of the worst ideas that Consciousness ever had. Just a joke. Good.

Atma said, “Father, last night and this morning, noticing changing in the energy field; like I am becoming more spirit. Feeling it like that, that I am spirit.”

Yes, it can feel like that with the more and more switching over to Beingness; it can be like that, no? More marinating, and pure spirit is here. But I want to tell you that you are witnessing even this. And the Witnessing is what you truly are, even beyond spirit. The One who knows this, the One who sees this, is beyond even spirit. See? But there is great joy that emerges from this. It’s very beautiful. Very good.

Ajnani says, “Namaste. Sorry for being late.”  No problem.

Lonai says, “No strength in the body these days. Thousand thoughts in line saying ‘Freedom will never be experienced again’. Giving up. It is like a tsunami of personhood.”

Very good. ‘Freedom will never be experienced again’. Yes. This is very nice. Freedom will never be experienced, because freedom is not an experience. It is a freedom from all experiences. What is means is that all experiences can arise, even tsunami, even joy, or the most horrible or the most sublime. All are free to arise. This is freedom. The Witnessing…, see, there is One who is witnessing that all of this is happening. Is that witnessing touched by any of this? And knowing that ‘This Witnessing I Am’ is freedom; irrespective of any experience. So it is very good that this is coming up because still there must be some belief in the concept that freedom is a sort of a state or an experience. Now, with this strong tsunami, this false belief will also get washed away. You see? It is not an experience at all. It is the witnessing of all experiencing. And I know that these words will make sense to most of you, so I can use them. It is the witnessing of all experiencing.

Lizelle says, “Beautiful. Thank you for the reminder, Father.”  Very welcome, my child. “Bad idea.”   Yes.

Rashmi says, “It is all so simple, Father. Especially in your Presence.”  Yes. It is very simple actually. All so simple, yes.

Clare says, “Exposing all comparisons; jealousy, hatred, specialness, neediness again.”

Yes. All these are the attributes of the person idea, but it is just an idea. Whose jealousy is it? Whose hatred is it? Whose specialness is it? Whose neediness is it? You see? This one cannot be found. And because this one cannot be found, that means that all these emotions have no meaning. They can come and go.

And then Clare says, “Smiling, too.”  Very good.

Atma says, “Yes, Father, after I got up from bed, I could see this, that I am also witnessing this. But as you say, there is so much joy is seeing myself as spirit.”

Unassociated Being is a very beautiful experience; very beautiful witnessing.

Cornelia says, “Aha, the chameleon. But often it seems that if it would not be there, this witness, it would be more silent.”

There is no ‘witness’ actually. There is no entity called ‘the witness’. It is only a witnessing. And there is no trouble in witnessing, because it is pure witnessing without any belief in the interpretation. Trouble comes from belief in an interpretation. The Witnessing, or the Being, as long as it is just this, there is no trouble at all. As long as it is just this, all the beautiful forces of Love, Peace and Joy are at your service, falling at your feet. But the minute we believe that there must be an entity of any sort, including the witnessing entity; because it can be a person only which pretends to be a witness.

So, simple, simple, simple thing: Just let go of all thoughts, and see that there is no entity whatsoever. It is only pure Witnessing itself. You are not a noun, you are not a thing; you are just a verb. And even to say ‘verb’ actually is not accurate, but it is closer than saying ‘noun’ or a thing.

Naomi says, “Dearest Ananta, if we live with Beings who are very mind-identified, (as we all have the potential to be)…,”  Yes.  “…how to teach our children not to be.”  Very good.

So, first it is that if you are not mind-identified and you are letting all thought go, you will find…, after some time, after the attack, after some initial skepticism, you will find that many Beings are actually coming to you; and saying ‘How do you manage to be so calm? How is there so much peace in your Presence?’ So, first, as a blessing to these Beings who are mind-identified.., (and you rightly said ‘as all of us were at some point’, isn’t it? So there was this play of being mind-identified in all conditioned Beings, all that are given birth here in this realm)…, the most beautiful thing to help them first is just for them to be in your Presence of this pure Beingness; they’re actually in the Presence of God himself, of Consciousness itself. So, although initially you might find some strong resistance coming from them, but something, their true nature, is recognizing what is happening there; what is happening with you. So that in itself is a great start, and it will help them. If you don’t fall into the battle with their initial resistance, you will find that they will defrost. And your Presence itself is blessing them, and their mind-identification will reduce thanks to your Presence. You see?

And then, your question was ‘How do we teach our children not to be’. You just stay as the Self. And then let all thought go. You will then be the perfect role model for your children. See, it is said that Mahatma Gandhi-ji had said ‘Just you be the change that you want to see in the world’. So what is coming up here for you is for you to stand your ground. You just be yourSelf, and the children will learn so much in your Presence, they will emulate you actually. And the other Beings will also be blessed by your Holy Presence.

So, I’m not suggesting a plan, or an approach or a strategy as to how this is to be done. You see? Because the Self needs no planning. It needs no tactics to face any of these situations. In the moment, fresh, what will arise from you will be so beautiful that you will see that everything is working out in the Presence of this pure Beingness itself.

And also, don’t try to teach anyone anything; including the children. Automatically, in the Presence, you are being the greatest teacher, without having any feeling that you must teach something. Very good.

Shinein says, “There is a thought which arises daily now, which introduces the idea of discontinuing reading truth books and watching satsang videos; like there is too much knowledge.”

Is there a thought?…, see, so you must look at this. So, this happened here as well. So, if you come to my house, you will see hundreds of books, hundreds of spiritual books. But I haven’t read a book fully, a spiritual book fully, since I met my Master; since January 2009, I have not read a book. But there wasn’t a thought, ‘too much knowledge, now stop reading’, it was just that there was no natural inclination to go up and finish a book. Sometimes an inclination might come to pick up something and read a few paragraphs. That is okay. And for others, there might be inclination to read the entire book; maybe over and over. That also happens. So, don’t listen to the voice of any thought; let all thoughts go, and let life unfold in its own beautiful way. So also see if it is a thought which is making you not read something, or is it just a natural inclination, to pick up the books which seemed so attractive earlier is just not there now. And that is absolutely fine.

Lucian says, “For a while now, I can’t seem to find many words. Love you all so much.”  We love you, too. It’s completely fine. Very good.

Kapil says, “There is no witness, only Witnessing. Thank you for this.”  Very welcome. Very good.

Cornelia says, “Thank you so much, Father. Just <censored> much love.”  Very welcome. Much love to you, too, my dear. Very good.

Lonai says, “It is seen; freedom is not an experience. It Is. But there has been a period where it has not been tasted; so for me, it is experienced.”

This is the trouble with spiritual experiences; because sometimes spiritual experiences come, and they are so beautiful, so beautiful that we believe that the spiritual experience was the freedom. So sometimes I even say ‘It is good if it is a completely sober seeing’. Then it is good. No fireworks at all, no kundalini, no chakras, no bliss, no joy; just the simple seeing that ‘I am the Awareness itself’. This sober seeing is also very auspicious. Otherwise it becomes an expectation that this experience is always accompanying freedom.

You see, anything which comes, must go; any experience which comes, must go. Nothing phenomenal comes and stays. Freedom is freedom from all these experiences. You are the pure Witnessing itself, which is untouched even by this most-sublime experience of freedom, or awakening, or whatever terminology you’d like to use.

Atma says, “I love you so much, Father. Thank you for everything; for your Holy Presence, for your unconditional Love…, at your feet.”  You’re very welcome, my dear. Very welcome. Very good.

Lonai says, “I cannot describe this. Everything I write seems to be wrong.”

I know that you are the Self itself. I know you are always only my own true Self, that there are no ‘two’ here. And in this game, in this play we play like this. You see? No words anyway are true, no? There is no words, no set of words, which can convey the truth. Some words can try and come close; like the words ‘I Am’ can try and come close. But ultimately, even they are not true, isn’t it? So, it’s completely fine; I’m completely open to reading anything that is coming from you. Very good.

Lucian says, “Sometimes doubt appears that all of this could be so simple: Just let everything unfold on its own; even peace, love and joy.”   Yes.

It is this simple. Simpler than the concept of simple. Because nothing at all is required. Not even a doing nothing is required; not even that, because even that is a doing. Just nothing, nothing, nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing.

Naomi says, “Yes, this makes so much sense. This pure Presence is how I began to <censored>. Much love. Thank you.”  Thank you so much, too.

Atma says, “Yes, therefore now I can only read from books like Avadhuta Gita, Ashtavakra Gita and Ribhu Gita, which speak direct truth. All else is no more interesting to me.”

Yes. It can become like that, no? So these books, the Avadhuta Gita, Ashtavakra Gita and Ribhu Gita, in the Indian tradition these books are only for the most accomplished spiritual masters, or the spiritual aspirants who are the most accomplished, mostly have been living in ashrams for many, many years. But now, with this simple understanding of your own true Self, all these books seem like they’re just common sense; they’re so accessible, approachable and not confusing at all. Very good.

Lonai says, “Nothing came, everything left. Only emptiness was left; not even emptiness. But then stuff started to come back again.”

Yes, yes, it can come back, you see? Everything is allowed to go and to come back. Don’t expect that something should stop. Let it all come, and let it all go. It’s that simple. Simple, simple, simple. The Witnessing is untouched by any of this. Therefore, don’t get attached to any state. If you call anything which is appearing ‘me’ or ‘mine’ that is the seed for all suffering. If you call anything which is appearing ‘me’ or ‘mine’, that is the seed for suffering. Not even freedom you can say ‘It was my freedom’. You cannot say that.

Jyoti says, “Father, last satsang with you for a while. Thank you so much. Love you so much.”

Ohhh, I love you, too. So much love to my Master from all of us in the sangha. I know you carry all of us in your heart. There’s so much joy that you will be in Moojiji’s Presence. Very good. And also we will miss you. You see? There is no dichotomy in that. Very good.

Lizelle says, “So grateful to you for these satsangs. Thank you for being so accessible.”  You’re very welcome. It is my joy, actually.

Shinein says, “Yes, a sense of guilt of the loss of interest of no longer reading the whole book.”   Yes.  “What is felt to read now, it is very clear.”  Very good.

Cornelia says, “A/V is good here.”   Yes.

Rashmi says, “A feeling here that each and every Being here is my Master. Love you all.”  Yes, it’s a beautiful feeling. Very good.

Big hug to dearest Jyoti J and big hug to all of you. Group hug [Big Smile]. I should hug the computer [Laughs].

So much love, so much love.

Thank you all so very much for being in satsang today.

Moojiji ki Jai !  [Blows kiss. Waves.]

Sangha: Moojiji ki Jai ! Anantaji ki Jai !  Thank you. Love you.

Namaste everyone, a very warm welcome to satsang today. Moojiji ki Jai.

[Due to technical difficulties, audio only, and no chat available.]

I felt today that we could have a look at emotions. We look at thought a lot. We look at the energy construct of a thought on many occasions. But emotions we don’t look at so much. So I feel today, (and maybe it is good if it is only audio), we can just be with our emotions and look at them very objectively, and see how it plays out with these emotions.

What usually happens is an emotion can come; just like a thought, an emotion can appear.  And the emotion appears: suppose the emotion of anger is appearing. When the emotion of anger is appearing then we say ‘I am angry’. Or when the emotion of grief is appearing we say “I am feeling sad’. Or when the emotion of joy is appearing we say “I am so joyful’. This attaching, this making the emotion about me, is what creates the trouble. Even in satsang actually, if you hear these words…, and sometimes some strong emotion of happiness or joy might come and then you say ‘I am feeling so joyful’. The minute we say ‘I am feeling so joyful’ then we become scared to lose this joy. Or when this feeling goes, as every feeling must actually, then we say ‘I am not feeling the joy’ or ‘I am feeling sad’ or whatever other emotion is present. So, if you were to just see that these emotions were just appearing and they have nothing to do with you. They are just another appearance.

I feel that for many of us, because of our constant reiteration in satsang about thought, many of us are able to let the thought come and let it go. But the funny thing is that when emotion appears, then we are quick to believe an interpretation about it, which is also just a thought. See, so the teaching is not that. Just like we have learned how to let thoughts go, the same way we will learn how to let emotions go. The pointing stays the same actually, which is to ‘Let go of your next thought’. The pointing to ‘Let go of your next thought’ stays the same even when we are dealing with emotion. As long as we’re not believing the thought that ‘this is my anger’.

So, what happens is we get angry, or the emotion of anger appears actually, and we say ‘we got angry’ or ‘I got angry’ and then we start looking for reasons to justify our anger or to defend our anger. And, if we are not looking for reasons to justify or defend, then we are looking for ways in which we become guilty about it.

All of this is not possible if we continue to let go of our next thought; even in the midst of a tsunami of emotion. This will keep the ‘me’ out of the picture. This will keep the false ‘I’ out of the picture. And then there is a complete space here for any emotion to arise and to disappear as it likes. Without believing a thought about it, you will not resist it. Without calling it ‘good’ or ‘bad’ there is no trouble actually.

So, don’t be quick to pick up the thought about emotions; that ‘these are my emotions’ or ‘this should not be happening to me’. All these are just thoughts. A popular thought could be that ‘Now that I have understood who I am then no negative emotions should come to me’. It is pure fallacy. Even if the negative emotion arises, see that ‘it doesn’t touch me actually’. That is freedom. Freedom is unrestricted even to the sense of which emotion is arising.

You are Awareness. You are the eternal witness of all that is arising, including emotions.

So, don’t give a place of specialness to your emotions. But this does not mean that we resist them in any way. We do not resist any emotion. All is allowed to come and go in its own time.

As we were discussing on ‘chat’ the other day, it can be a little more confusing to deal with emotions because thoughts seem to come and go very quickly. But emotions can also be called energy constructs, yet they are qualitatively different in the sense that they seem to last longer.

Therefore, have no desire or aversion also to any emotion which is arising, and you’ll see there is such great mastery over all of these energies when you just watch. When you watch without identification, you will find that none of this actually touches you at all. This is true for all variety of emotion. We don’t even have to label them ‘good’ or ‘bad’.

We can see ourselves now, if there is any emotion that exists, to see if there is an entity which is getting affected by this emotion. Can we find this entity which is touched by this emotion?

Whatever emotion exists for you now, just be with that. And without labeling it ‘my emotion’ try to find out ‘Who is touched by this?’ Even if it is the most uncomfortable emotion, just stay with it. And, strong sensations can come sometimes, but you see the witnessing is untouched by all of this.

Thank you for being in satsang today.  [Namaste]  Moojiji ki Jai !

We were discussing this morning about how the understanding cannot be a personal understanding. If you’re still believing that there is a person here who has understood anything at all then that is not the understanding. The understanding always only is that this person which I believe myself to be was never real; is just purely imagined. But this mind will try to claim credit for the understanding now. This mind will say that ‘I have understood that I am awareness’ but the mind can never understand that it is awareness, just like the refection in the mirror cannot understand what our life is in reality. In the same way this mind, which is just a play of consciousness, cannot truly understand consciousness or awareness. You see?

So what starts off as a personal journey of understanding…, the personal journey of freedom ultimately must end with this person being confronted; this person being seen to be false and our belief getting completely divested from this identity. And this person, this mind, is always in a rush to proclaim its understanding. And even when it says ‘I do not understand anything’ it is usually trying to convey that it has understood everything. So it’s really not in the words actually. And if you see that this is happening then it is nothing to feel guilty about. It has to play out in this way. But my job seems to be to point it out. Because if we end prematurely the search here, with just a personal understanding, then it will not be the end of satsang.

In this seeming journey it must go from person to presence; from people to being. That’s why we’re not a sangha of people. We’re the sangha of Being. And we can check for the symptoms, isn’t it? If there is still a need to convince or if there’s still a need to impress….

And the need to convince usually comes from the fact that something is doubting our own freedom actually. There is no need to convince the Master. The Master already completely knows that you are free. There is no need to convince the Master. But it is your own doubt; your own self doubt which conveys itself in this way with a need to convince anyone. It could be the Master, it could be your family, it could be all your loved ones. What you truly are is unconcerned. It is unconcerned about freedom also. Your true Self knows that the one who is asking for freedom, needing freedom or even proclaiming freedom is not you. You see?

So when we say that the spiritual ego is trying to convince others actually I feel that it is its own lingering self doubt that it is trying to get over. If you did not doubt your freedom at all…, if you completely did not doubt your freedom at all, then who would you need to convince about it?