Various Qualities of Perception Are Within Existence - 27th October 2017
Saar (Essence)
Ananta explains that the concepts of 'mind', 'body', and 'me' are merely theoretical constructs used to categorize a singular flow of phenomenal sensations within consciousness.
The mind, body, and the 'me' are all theoretical constructs; there is no such thing in reality.
Everything is a set of sensations; nothing actually divides anything, and there is no boundary.
Everything has only one cause, which is consciousness.
contemplative
Transcript
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In this place of initially the feeling was that the mind is the space in which this processing is happening. Now it's like it's also another independent object in the space of... do you mean the mind? Yes, it's just another like these you say, it's another random... yes, thank you. And it has its rounded boundaries of what is, but they have nothing to do with me.
It is the question of how we define it. Let me take a minute on that so it becomes clear. In this existence there are these various, various qualities of perception that seem to exist. Hearing is there, or memory, imagination, emotion. Not only that, but sensations which we call the body. Then the leg sensation is different from the arm sensation. All these various flavors of sensations are there. Suppose we had no buckets. We haven't defined any of the sensations. We don't say pain or pleasure is in the body sensation. We don't have any bucket. We don't say body, mind, nothing. It's just a set of sensations in our experience. Now, whatever attention goes to is the sensation, is the perception.
Now for ease of communication, we have made these buckets called body, mind, and so on. Suppose we had those boundaries and everything experienced is a sensation. What is undeniable is that I am within this being. All this perception is happening. All these sensations are tasting. Now for ease of communication, you can say, okay, let's take a quick... we call energy concepts called thoughts. That which we call these sensations of imagination, let's call that mind. Some might say let's even put emotion. See, emotion results. Some might see... now some might see, okay, everything which is phenomenal is mind. I'm going to say it like that to define a boundary. It is what it is, which is also... so that's why I don't want to call it stimulus and response, because I want to say that everything which is phenomenal, both the stimulus and the response, let's call it a perception or a sensation or, you know, basically, you know... so let's say phenomenal.
So I cannot define the response as by default identified as me.
Exactly. This is the thing. So same way as we have got these theoretical constructs now, and there are various, various millions of sensations, but we use some theoretical constructs for the body or the mind and we have defined them as buckets. We have one theoretical construct called the 'me' which we have taken to be the superset of these two other theoretical concepts of body and mind. So everything which is contained in this bucket, this my name, we have taken that to be me. But all three are theoretical concepts. There is no such thing. There is no such thing as the mind. There is no such thing as the body. Even physically, it's just a set of atoms seemingly hanging together for some unknown reason which a scientist also can't tell you why they have to be so.
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So there are these three theoretical concepts on the basis of which we have the sense of individuality. Now, yeah, absolutely right. The response that seems to come from this body or from this mind, any of these sensations, we have labeled that and we said, 'This is my response. What is happening to me is coming from outside of me.' But as long as you can see that there is no direct experience of that, there is no inside or outside, it is only a theoretical notion. You see that? Then you can see a thing like this. It really sounds like very irritating at later sometimes. Everything is used to happen. There is no 'me' who's doing it. There is no 'me' who's not doing it. Which is this kind of thing people say. Then find that we're doing away with the theoretical notion of the 'me', doing away with the theoretical notion of there being a mind, the theoretical notion... everything is a set of sensations. Nothing actually divides anything. There is no boundary.
Everything is experienced within this existence. Stimulus and response are both phenomenal. Actually, both are also theoretical constructs because it has to... it has somewhere the notion of cause and effect built into it. That somehow this came and therefore that came is also a theoretical notion. Because both ideas, like the bird came and landed on the branch of the coconut tree, coconut fell... can you really say? Yeah, if you want to take a theoretical construct which is more generic, both are just perceptions. One could be perceived as a physical stimulus, that would be in response, we'll label the energetic appearance, and yet they are just energetic appearances. So hence we remove this cause and effect, or as I like to say, everything has only one cause which is consciousness.
So this is what I am reading. I know it got a bit technical in the middle and half our audience might have dropped the wheel, but it's really important that... I don't mind that. This is really important because we are now discovering what happens when we stop speaking about inside versus outside.
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