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To Find the Truth Which is Unchanging - 3rd July 2017

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Ananta guides seekers to recognize the unchanging witness that exists prior to all stories and mental conditioning. He emphasizes that self-realization is not a future achievement but the effortless recognition of one's own ever-present, non-phenomenal existence.

Without any stories, what are you right now?
The truth must be here now; it doesn't need to refer to the past or future.
You are the witness of all occurrences, yet you cannot find the shape or color of yourself.

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Transcript

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Ananta

Whatever remember, thesis model, a bit we were just with everyone getting on. Welcome to session today. So if all the stories on the path are not helping us to exist in this moment, what purpose do they serve? And you might say that, 'Oh, that will help me take care of some future moments.' This is the game we keep playing. What is it helping us do? Without any stories, what are you right now? Isn't it funny that you come to me into such an antahkarana, that you got me here to get rid of that which is never here? We go to the senses to have something to sense that I'm separate. Without a story, where does a group take the hint? The world continues to be experienced. A perception is going on like this. Well-being is lived. Did you stop breathing without a story? Did the heart stop beating? Stop thinking? I stop functioning here, still Harry. What happened when we got with total anything that we need is already here in the moment right now? What do we really need? If we experience of this world, the need that we have, the need or a plea that it means to go into the past, that it has an idea of what the future should be like, that is not in vision such. We move to some extent one now.

Ananta

The golden rule is that our primary intent, if there is such a thing, our primary intent is to find the truth which is unchanging. It is truth that is changing that doesn't have much value. We held many such truths and we held on to this and then we can let go of them because life squeezed. So what is the truth which is unchangeable? And if it is unchanging, there must be just be here now. So then we don't need to refer to the past, we don't need to project into the future when we are looking for the truth or the steps to remove. We are here for self-realization, self-recognition. Against that habit as we come to look for things we seem to be outside, whom will you put as self also? As if they come, as if it is an experience. Who is it? You might not see it so. In this opinion, person long enough, but you usually ask people, 'What is self-realization or liberation or freedom?' 'Okay, this should happen. I must always be happiness. It should be miracles happening around me. There should be a halo around my head.' It is always outside the realm of experiences now. You could conclude so if you look at what we mean also by self-realization or recognition. We associate it with some effect. What is the effect of self-realization? 'If I'm realized, then I must feel like this. If I'm enlightened, then it must be like that.' So for a while, even forget about the concept of enlightenment. That will just be an effect. If there is an effect to happen, what is the first part? Not the effect which even recommend elaboration, but the first part which is defense. Well, must we go to find this misdirection? Jupiter should be turned to find little confused direction. Our world turns you get to go to work with food options, novelties, twists. No, I will pick a house by recognizing me coming painful suspense.

Ananta

I'm looking for my keys. So much looking to look at these louder. So this might choose analysis me. I've been trying to find happiness somewhere, but if I'm looking for success, what would be for any good mingle? What do you think? But let's drill down even deeper. Why are you not looking for the body and its fans to me or any vision? Assume like what are you already here? What would is running around looking for the body? I hope you talk about that separately. What would you running around for their body? Money, maybe not. We go and your search like this open, but usually not. If we find nobody, then you should talk to someone. What are you doing this? 'I'm looking for my body.' What do you think? How come we don't have the same reaction to so many thousands or millions of people looking for the Self? He had on. So if you have the clue to that, suggest really questioning all of the supposed to be spiritual seekers. They are looking for yourselves, realization of the Self. Word tells me was to what I am because my Self, my body, they are not looking for what is already here. Help is where? Very important. Before you gave up the two by the moving realization of them, immediately you can see that I am already the Self. This we feel that just being the Self is incomplete, then I need quality elevation, yes? So just let's slip, but really drill down on this point.

Ananta

So we see that if the truth is truth, in reality is real, God reveals itself is real, then it must be here now. Then we look at what is here now. It seems apparent with the body is here. One picking the pattern because it wriggles on objects of our senses. We is you can look at the contours of the body in theory. Okay, there is something substantial that I can hold on to. Now if I start asking, so what witnesses even this? And if you don't go to a learned concept about it, if you don't go to an imagination about it, then with the Sakshi, the witness of this? So then we can introduce this body and every other phenomenal next again. It's a ruse, the richness of these. And it's a simpler question. If you try to apply our mind to it, then it seems like very complex. Up to slow the right concept and we don't have it. It's right now. What we think is everything we do or somebody else too? What can we say about this one? That which replaces everything ultimately about that one? And again, mind will come with answers. The mind will come with imagination. Okay, with your present experience, stay with your insight as the truth. If I tell you that you are not witnessing anything, makes sense? If I do that, it is the next one in the handout in the zone or your neighbor sitting next to you is actually witnessing everything, it would make them cannot relate to that experience. Can only relate to your own witness. I am difference in this world. This I which is replacing the world, this one is primary.

Ananta

So many stories we tell about the body. 'I was born here. Here is a real life for my parents. This is what I learned. This is where my school was. I learned to walk at this age.' What we have this a kitchen and a description. These are the bigger things that it went through. So much we talk about the body, but the I which witnesses all of this is looking about that. What can you feel? I can't be seen like if a body can be seen with the three-nine you got a gun. I can't see it, but I can only know that I am found happen objective for so you cannot be seen. You know the little wheel. So how can you say that it exists? We learn that for something to exist it must be perceivable. Avoided from it, my son, they have this concept. Some one of them is lacking about something we say, 'Photo or it didn't happen. Post a photo of it or you're just making it up.' So this is how we've done because we have phenomenal or perceptual evidence of something and we can say it is true. If it is not there, it seems like it a monkey. Now when it comes to the witnessing, goes in trouble. At least the mind is in trouble because this is undeniable. So that I am the witness of everything, that I cannot find the shape of it, I cannot find the color of this. Then how do we know what kind of moving is this more which I am the witness of all these occurrences?

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Ananta

Keep going back to what I saw. A process where you are the one with me all there is. You are talking about you. My experience is as shown. Let me play with which you is this one. Many of the Michigan says the name the richness again as with my business. Can I not remain at this business and I conduct at all? Therefore the pointing only means that don't pretend to be something that you are not. What that will happen if you are not there to witness it? Does it have any meaning? You please have to witness a concept of this witness if your discovery that which is the unchanging Self. So now we give it them plate. Keep it simple like with the quizzes. If you quickly start to look at whether this is the perceiver and whether awareness is perceiving even this and it might get a bit confusing. Let's first even look at this. What is it that we can see are tops other use that witnesses the space would be not on know what I mean next a space between the tall like a dot com. Oh this is making them. Oh usually in for the satsang if this is making no sense that is at all then the next part comes after some time but it's okay or something now between the first one and the second one it seemed like there's a gap even if it seemed like it is light. So this one that witnesses this gap, a keeping experiment for yourself in the party come and you'll find that usually when you start inviting thoughts they seem to be not so rampant before you invited them to come in. It can be it's one status too difficult and not it with all the thoughts of then you start inviting them heart only so that which watching we thought changing which one is that fun with that itself changing the ending of the farm the changing of the imagination normally whatever my people feel if that which witnesses it also changing and if indeed you don't go Allah's weight on me I know both I it's one word more intimately the thought would come then goes are you that the mean to see that that thought came if I ask you okay Lincoln focus your next home and tell me what it was so thought would have come and gone but you remain so the thought is changing you remain is unchanged.

Ananta

Maybe emotions are constantly changing which is the main unchanging everything a world is obviously constantly changing the Roman never been exactly like this before even with online arrangement has never been exactly like this is for constantly changing what is considered engine setting tells all the time you have been created needing the process is happening in the body inspections no all of this play at many all these different level the constantly killings you when you come to satsang you're basically saying I want to know what is the unchanging what it is that Italian with a key with everything around me changing all my relationships also always changing I think table I find in this world I want to look for that which remains unchanging what in your experience will change what doesn't change the audio good for everyone super sexy handsome trouble good for E&M for each over experience and that of leads become your experience of light now angle quick question get down contradictory what is I'm changing write it now know what I mean what do you what do you find right now as it always will because this with nothing beyond to the church isn't little bit again and the other questions agree we'll face it with it good conscience say i am i thing witnessing but I can't be free and then when we just keeping silent this I am which seems extremely you do it and me just seems to be kind of hunting but the witnessing is not stopping the witnessing is not giving any meaning to anything what is it that we are finding finding that we were looking for the Self are small whatever you forget yourself as if you will find it as an object we're hoping to find it like the body we're looking to find it like a visual experience of some sort maybe some chakra or some some particular gods all those can be there with what witnesses even that that which is appearing dancing in tion that more intimately I that which is witnesses even dance there is no more of a troublesome concept to the mind than this one because it can smell in these words the pointing that you are not an object and the minds focus is constantly been to convince ourselves that we are an object if you are not a thing is okay with you because those women prefer if you're not something you could even the meaning something for others is meaningful for me I did not find meaning in being meaningful for others then it would be a worthless concept so what do we find here that we are given meaning to the idea of a person not an identity he of a ego it when we starting look we find that there is no such thing here it is nothing really or the person's there is a body here is a thought the others confession all kinds of phenomena more

Ananta

Because those women prefer if you're not something, you could even... the meaning. Something for others is meaningful for me. I did not find meaning in being meaningful for others, then it would be a worthless concept. So what do we find here? That we are giving meaning to the idea of a person, not an identity of an ego. When we start to look, we find that there is no such thing here. It is nothing really. Where the person is, there is a body, here is a thought, there is perception, all kinds of phenomena, but no real entity called the person. Then what you are finding about yourself is that you are without attributes and qualities, color, shape, and size. Name and form in their rack, which have name and form, is called an object of Maya. So what does it have? Name and form. You don't, in reality, yourself. Okay, I know where you are. Okay with everything is Maya, including yourselves? Your Atma is also Maya. Nobody says that. So if everything that has name and form is Maya, then that which is beyond name and form... are we going to allow us to just remain as a concept of Maya, name and form? And so many people have the concept of the soul is beyond name and form. So are we going to just allow that to remain a concept? Are we going to have an insight about it? Are we going to be able to find this soul or Atma?

Ananta

My invitation is... I'm just pointing out that there will be some frustration along the way because you are looking for the witness. You don't find something that you can hold on to. You don't see an image of it. You can't see a color of it, and yet you know that you are the witness. Now, that which is subjective to the mind will actually become your joy if you see that you have no phenomenal attributes. Then you really cannot be hurt in this world. Then you'll have no need for anything. There's nothing to be feverish about and nothing to run away from. You find the truth of yourself as this consciousness, this effortless existence in which all things are moving, but it itself is not moving. All things are changing, but it itself is not changing. That stability that we are looking for, that contentment that we are looking for, does not come from an unstable world. We see that everybody's world is unstable, this body they're sitting in. We looked at all these layers, and yet where is everyone looking for stability? From that which is always changing. What is unchanged? What witnesses the change in that unchanging? Yes, empty words won't mean anything here. This is the best pointing which can become part of a story.

Ananta

So before I go today, we can look at a question or two if they're short. We have a question. It says, 'Hello Ananta Ji, I recognize myself as awareness now, but I have some innate negative tendencies due to childhood impressions that come into operation and pull me into their delusions and such as to color my perception.' Your voice, with whom you have defined this entire play of delusion... this is how the self functions. You say very rightly that when you check, you see that you are this primal richness, that which is aware even of your existence. You see that, you see. Then what happens? You say, 'I get caught up in some tendencies.' There are some tendencies here. So what is the meaning of this? First, there must be a sense that you exist. There can be no tendency unless there is a sense of existence. Like this 'I am.' The tendency only means 'I am something.' The tendency only means that 'I am something.' Nothing cannot have a tendency, or that which is limitless, boundless, cannot have a tendency. The tendency must mean first that 'I am something.' So this is awareness, a sense that I have, and the tendency is that 'I am something.'

Ananta

Now here, with the 'now,' you say when you check, you see that you are the awareness. Right now, notice that even the sense of existence is effortless. But the tendency comes. We won't even pose what the programs are. We won't look at the past and why they came. You talked about it in the passing, that maybe because of parents, the behavior, things happened. You say due to childhood impressions. But in the right now, if you check and you find that you are awareness, then how is it that you become something else? Can it happen without the thought? If the thought doesn't come, what are you? You're not trying to push a wave away, but imagine for a moment that no thought came. What are you then? You just are, empty of a concept of yourself. If the thought vanishes, you also vanish? This 'I am' now... after the thought comes, you notice that it is either believed in or not. What does it mean to believe it? It means to say that it is true. Something gives with a sense to the thought, says the truth value is one, says the thought is true. Not only that, it also says that it is meaningful.

Ananta

It could be there are a hundred thousand grains of salt in a container in my kitchen. Could this concept become a conditioning for you? It doesn't, because it might be true, but it is not meaningful. So that which we say is truth and also has meaning for me, that becomes then a conditioning or a tendency. So it is to hold on to this condition, to hold on to a tendency, which is taking so much effort. Because where is the concept? It has to come out of the thought, and we have to... attention of course goes to it, and we have to say that it is true and meaningful. Then it becomes a belief. So much work is happening. Although sometimes I feel like I am asking you to take some effort, it is actually to compare effortlessness. So in this moment right now, before I give you a moment to even think, you must be. You're empty of this condition now, now, now. And I am saying 'now' many times. The mind might be saying 'but, but what?' Waiting with the objections. The mind has a condition to offer you, and I have the pointing 'now' to offer you. What are you right now?

Ananta

I know that you are empty of condition, but consciousness has given itself the ability to pretend as if lies are true about it. It has given itself the ability to pretend as if any condition can apply to it. What you're discovering about yourself in your own default is that you are without any attribute, without any limitation, without any color, shape, or size. What every condition is telling you about yourselves is that you are limited, you are a body, you are some type of person, you have desires. That is completely the story from the mind. But in this moment, you have a discovery that 'I am this awareness,' and none of this really applies to this awareness. That is why the inquiry is good for you, because you keep coming to this recognition of the truth of what you are. That which is false will look more and more meaningless. As it starts to look more and more meaningless, you will find it more and more difficult to give belief to these concepts which are telling you your limitations, which are telling you that you are a duration between birth and death, that you are the pocket of flesh and bones, that is you. This is what the mind is saying.

Ananta

So these are conditions. Whatever the condition might be, they are not spiritual conditions. So then what is it that... as long as there is a sense of doership, what is it that I can do till I come to the authentic discovery with integrity that there is no individual over here? What is it that I can do? All of reality is based on that, isn't it? Because if all the masters know that there is no individual over here, why do they give all these instructions? Why did they say do the self-inquiry, meditate, Buddha? Conditioning itself seems so magnetic, seemingly to consciousness, that it says things like, 'I cannot be free from this unless you tell me what to do.' Let me see if I can tell you always what to do, and you can decide what is the most comfortable.

Ananta

The first is just let go. Surrender everything to whoever you have some devotion with. The point of having that devotion is that everything is that one's problem. If you say, 'Father, I have some devotion for you,' then let everything be my problem? No. Now, this one is a tricky one, because as we give up what is to be done to Father, we also must give up what is the experience also to Father. So if Father has to do everything, then Father will be experiencing everything. Otherwise, it is only half surrender, that you are the doer but I am still sitting here as an experiencer of what is experienced. It is half surrender or none at all. Then just start with taking half surrender, it's okay.

Ananta

So some of you feel like there is no such devotion, or there is no such being that you can feel, or even a devotion to God or any such power is not there. You can just say, 'If he or she is taking care of everything, nothing is my problem.' If we won't find anything like that, then what should you do? Then what you should do is find out what you really are. How to find out? Don't insist on what we do every day, this inquiry: 'What is it that I really am?' or 'Who am I?' These two are the main pointings, the main direction this follows. Once Ramana Maharshi clarified very clearly that surrender and self-inquiry... so for some of you it is surrender or self-inquiry, for some of you it is surrender and self-inquiry. It's okay, whatever permutation and combination, whatever you feel is the most authentic.

Ananta

So here we are at such a beautiful movement in a way, such a beautiful change. This is the crux of all Vedanta, the crux of true spirituality, which was made so simple in its simple directions. Surrender means, 'You Guru or God, you are the one doer and the one experiencer. Everything is yours. Let thy will be done.' Inquiry: 'Who is the witness of these thoughts? Who is the witness of this world? Who am I right now?' Most of the words open in paths and are invitations and provocations for inquiry. Now, the beauty about this is that as you let go, as you surrender, what you truly are will also become clear. So much space for this simple self-recognition, and you're not constantly after 'what's in it for me?' You know, when you're not constantly running about in the belief of this concept 'what's in it for me,' we find that there is so much spaciousness to recognize your truth. And as you are doing the inquiry, as you are coming to the recognition of the truth, you find that the doer falls. Surrender to your own presence. It is the same as the surrender to the presence of God's people. It's also happening on its own. That's why, although they might seem like two different ways, actually it's the concept that there are two different wings of the same bird. If you start walking on either of them, you will see that both are there.

Ananta

Some of you might say that surrender I do not understand, and inquiry I definitely don't get. 'What is the point of sitting and asking?' Or 'my mind is so noisy.' And for those, it might actually be helpful to look at a simple practice. If there's anyone who feels like that, they can always come to me and say this: 'I feel like my mind is so noisy. I feel like the space is so empty and I don't feel like any devotion to anything, like I can't surrender it, and the inquiry is not bringing any insight to me about what I am. So there is no peace coming in my life because of this pointing.' So to you, I might be saying something. It might be meditation, it might be chanting, whatever you might need. If you feel that even this, becoming more meditative in our lives or more contemplative in our life, is not something that appeals to you, or even the concept of chanting something doesn't appeal, even the concept of staying with what is, staying with your breath for example, sounds like it could be... then as an ignored being, please, then I might say, 'But still you must come with integrity and say this is what it is.' And I might tell you something else. I might ask you to do some spiritual exercises, I might ask you to do some devotional work, I might ask you to do some favor, do some service which doesn't have 'me' at the center of it. Something, anything which has no 'me' at the center of it. So all of this is the response to 'what should I do?' And most of spirituality is about this. Or there will come a time where with integrity you will see that there is no doer here, there is no limited entity here, therefore there is nothing to do. All is being done at this surrender, at this experience.

Ananta

I might have to think of devotional things. I might ask you to do some favor, do some service, which doesn't have 'me' at the center of it. Something, anything, which has no 'me' at the center of it. So all of this is the response to 'What should I do?' and most of spirituality is about this. Or there will come a time where with integrity you will see that there is no doer here, there is no limited entity here, therefore there is nothing to do. All is being done. At this surrender, at this experience, worship, find that experience of this world continues and that which needs to be done also continues in its own beautiful way with no expectation of what the outcome should be.

Ananta

What is all of this about? It is all about coming to this moment, empty of resistance to what is and empty of a notion of what it should be. Just coming to this simplicity of existence, simplicity of being. And because our conditions have been so complicated, it can feel like all the various options are there for us to be empty of this conditioning. Because already all the seeing of this happened on its own. In this moment, we are empty of everything. But you can feel like if I pick up the lightest of concepts, the entirety of conditioning seems to be back. In this moment, all that is needed, if anything at all, is that you simply loosen this. Simple allowing. Allow your thoughts to come and go, and even if your belief goes to them sometimes, allow yourself to see that the package was as it was meant to be. In this moment, you're empty of all of this. Thank you all so much for being in Satsang today. Satguru Sri Moojiji Ki Jai.

Ananta

We have the big blessing here. And if you didn't see them, like the perfect order to such a process. What I know you don't like, the first process you think you failed, but you didn't, my dear. My future, everybody writing messages, it is not that. It would look like how they said you will be over the next career because of all the planning for the visa's candidacy. Okay, yes, also, and if you don't know that just after the Guru Purnima celebration we had here, and Madhavan now he's okay, I will be going to Monte Sahaja. Yes, we leave on the night of the 7th. So up to the 7th, most likely for the next few days, we will have Satsang at the same time. And on the 7th, we'll have it in the morning because in the evening then we have to leave for the flight.

Ananta

I know that this time is not the best for some of you in America and usually we try to switch it about a bit, but for the next few days it looks like it will be at this time. And what you say is not beautiful? So either you know this beautiful thing that happened, and so much my blessing was there from Moojiji, so much prayer was here for the devotees. And to me, right at the time after the Satsang when the visa came to go to Sahaja, and I called my travel agent, and before I gave him the news, he said, 'Ah, sir, you wouldn't mind Namaz today?' I was saying, 'Where are we going by Namaz?' and I had given the news just after that thing, it's confirmed now. Beautiful, beautiful. Up until this was kind of beautiful, it sways with a few seconds of course. The way is for all of us, the same path. And now as I carry it in my heart to go to see, so this body, as it is my other Sangha, my Guru's disciples, is also a representation of all of you. I don't feel like it's just my biological family to go into Sahaja, but it feels like all of us will be on this pilgrimage together. Satguru Sri Moojiji Ki Jai.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.