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Satsang Game: I Will Make Statements, You Say 'Yes' or 'No' - 12th Oct. 2016

October 12, 201620:53629 views

Saar (Essence)

Ananta guides a student through a series of 'yes or no' inquiries to dismantle the false identity of personhood. He emphasizes that one remains the untouched, unchanging awareness despite the dynamic play of thoughts and appearances.

The pretense that I am a person is a denial of what actually is.
I am this unchanging awareness; even if being takes on personhood, I remain untouched.
Suffering is possible only when consciousness gives attention and belief to the interpreting thought.

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Transcript

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Ananta

Okay, let's play a game. I will say something and you have to say 'yes' or 'no' with full integrity, based on whether this is your direct seeing or not. Understood? So, I will say something and you have to say 'yes' or 'no' based on whether it is your direct seeing or not, because you have seen this, whether you have assimilated this or not.

Ananta

This realm that we call the world is constantly changing.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

And you can say 'no' if it's not seen. These thoughts are interpreting these relative appearances.

Seeker

Yes.

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Ananta

The thought presumes that there is an individual entity.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

When looked for, this individual entity is not found.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

Therefore, no thought truly applies to reality.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

Consciousness plays with the thought using the powers of attention and belief.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

Suffering is possible only if we give this attention and belief to a thought.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

It is our belief in our thoughts which leads to identity.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

The pretense that 'I am a person' is a denial of what actually is.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

The presence 'I am' is the root of all existence.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

The 'yeses' are reduced, so then you have to say 'no'. And if the 'no' is our root of only 'yes', then we look at that point. All existence is existence when there is the sense that 'I am'. Then it leads to the sense that something exists. So maybe I need to rephrase the sentence: Nothing appears without first there being this sense of being.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

But also from our experience, nothing appears without there being first the sense of being. Everything that appears is experienced only within myself as being.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

I am aware that I exist.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

This awareness can also be called space.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

There are no attributes to awareness, and yet the world of all attributes comes from within itself.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

I am this unchanging awareness.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

Even if my dynamic aspect, which is being, takes on the pretense of personhood, I remain untouched.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

Therefore, freedom and bondage do not apply to me.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

I am the unmoving one. I am the unchanging one.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

Anything, including death, that might happen in this play does not touch what I am.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

Therefore, suffering is based on a false belief in the reality. I cannot suffer.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

I cannot leave this reality.

Seeker

I can.

Ananta

I can leave this reality? What are you talking about? This awareness cannot leave reality. Only the known one can become unaware for some time. Within the waking state, I can stop being.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

I am Brahman.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

If I experience joy, there is no experience of this. Then I must be fooling myself. Awareness is concerned about joy.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

The power of the mind is the power to pretend. Conditioning is false.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

The reality is enough to drop all conditioning once and for all.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

The belief of the pretense: I never believe anything ever again.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

If I believe at all, then a tangible person comes into existence.

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

The person has never existed. To pretend to be a person, it only has to believe what's next. A separate being operating in every body doing is actually fundamentally different from awareness.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

Even awareness is not there in sleep.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

I need to stop thoughts from appearing.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

I need an awakening experience to see the truth now. We may experience in the sense of some fireworks, some sudden laughter and crying at the same time.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

But we also learn from others' experience. If this kind of awakening experience has not happened, I cannot recognize the truth.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

To stay with the truth is tiring and effortful.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

To stay with the truth can seem effortful in the beginning. It can seem like a lot of effort to not do. You are Brahman. The game of not believing our thoughts that we played yesterday was only for some condition that we put after the 'but'. 'I am awareness, but...' Can that be valid reality?

Seeker

No.

Ananta

There is still something left to be done.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

The phrase 'it is done' is just something given for encouragement.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

There is openness equals resistance.

Seeker

No.

Ananta

To speak the truth is arrogance. Pride is the same as false humility.

Seeker

No.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.