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Liberation Is Too Easy If You Are Just a Little Bit Open - 2nd October 2017

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Ananta guides seekers to recognize their ever-present, uncolored consciousness by simply not picking up the 'sticky labels' of personal identity. He emphasizes that freedom requires no effort, only the cessation of pretending to be something limited.

The best news I can give you is that you have to do nothing to get rid of the ego.
Existence is effortlessly present... you are empty of all notions about yourself right now.
Don't pick up that which is false. It's too easy.

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Transcript

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Ananta

What is always here? What is here? Why go there? No, no, speaking physically right now, the own presence is here. This is this being real. And somebody will ask me, 'Can you show me God?' I say yes, but you have to allow this question: Can you stop being? This sense of existence or presence, uncolored by any attribute, is naturally here. It's a secret. There's only two you ever need to hear: this consciousness remains untouched no matter what might be happening. They will live here. What does it mean to go there? To go there implies to take a position, to give this unadulterated presence an attribute. To say, 'I am something.' That 'I am' is as if I have added something, and this something is very nearly deception because you know that you are not that unlimited. And that something is always a limitation.

Ananta

So, I mean, I'm a picker. That something is like that strangest thing is continuing, such that the story we used to read is truly about this princess whose father was exactly what the school works, but the father wanted to check whether she is really his daughter, the princess. So what he did is she had some eighteen layers of mattresses, but under that, he put a piece of a pea. So this pea was there, and this princess was used to so much comfort that she couldn't sleep because under the layer of eighteen mattresses, there was a pea. So this 'something' is that which will not give you comfort, you will not come to satisfaction until you get rid of this center. That's what I say. The best news I can give you is that you have to do nothing to get rid of it. Right now, you are this 'I am.' This sense is uncolored, but you also have the power to pick up this notion, this concept about yourself: 'I am something.'

Ananta

So if we allow all these notions to come and go... some of you have not heard online also, I see some of you right here, some of you will not have heard this example from me. This restaurant, Yo! Sushi. This is a restaurant, Yo! Sushi, they have all these dishes that come one after the other on a conveyor belt. So you are sitting at your table and there is a conveyor belt running past you, and all the dishes are color-coded. So these offerings are coming. Mind is offering these notions. Being is here. We will be saying, 'How to catch this and taste the flavor of individuality?' Now we are done with the stuffing ourselves with notions, then we get tired of it. You like the red one? It's really sweet. You say, 'Different education, relationship,' all of them. Nothing wants to free consciousness. Consciousness is already always free. So if you pick them up, or do nothing, or pick up the next... if you pick that up, then pick the next. Because what can happen is that many times when we do pick up a notion about the self, in which case you also pick up the next notion that 'I am so unworthy' or 'so stupid' and 'so guilty.'

Ananta

So this is pointing you to the truth of what you are right now. Do you have to think about it? Do you have to understand it? This and this is contrary to all the conditions that we had so far, and so it can seem like a struggle because we are happy to like this. But I think the way to just naturally a presence here, looking is here, this consciousness is there. You can say the food of satsang, and this is the food that is on offer here. Can I give it to you straight? To come to an unassociated being, do you have to stay like this? All the reasons that tons of things I can scale as you are, that's game. And it means don't pick up that which is false. It's too easy. Liberation is too easy if you are just a little bit more open. Not even the position, 'Oh, I am this or that,' or 'Oh, I am 50% free' or '100% free.' Not even 'I am enlightened.' But even the concept 'I am the Self' is muted unless we first make ourselves into something, which is what I must be: this body-mind with a particular me, or I must have some experiences as confirmation of my figure. And even everything this, then 'I must be pleased.' This can also play. This isn't like follows India pretty and I'm such a hold so much presence be. It's not even about that. Not about any feeling, not about any concept, not about anywhere to get to that which is ever-present.

Ananta

When you start to see this for yourself, then all these stories about one who is backing out, sitting on the chest of treasure and believing he doesn't have anything... this is a spiritual seeker who already has the forty already have and then tell me who needs something. Yesterday I was saying that the key is on your table, usually kicking the snaps on the floor. Where to go to find God? Where did you go to find yourself? What are you already now? All of us have one of you, and some of you have seen for many years. I know that you might have your favorite 'why not,' but why do we can this? Drop this button or we can inquire into it. Once it's surrendered or inquire. If we have really cared devotion, then offer it up at the Master's feet. Or who is this bad stuff? But what about when I go home? Why isn't it fine? I am the understand, I'm free. So inquiring the truth: Who's hungry? Who are you referring to yourself? And I will just let this body-mind... are they not also an appearance? The same we said this body is. We try to apply this what we are finding in satsang close. We cannot do that many times. It is this which remains like unbettered in us. It is not how we use that way. It is not a self-help class, but it's a realization that beyond all there is, empty of notions, this is so apparent.

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Ananta

Struggle to find ourselves. The main struggle seems to be a mist of notions, these sticky labels about ourselves and the world. Applying for what to do, the list of what you want. If you don't use fancy words like desire and intuitive to what it means, the plan for what you want to do on this about what you want, this desire in devotion. What did you do to create this presence here? How much effort did it take for you to be present? Effortless. It's here. Where to go looking for that which is already here? Which practice will get us there? Therefore, the only useful practice must be that which helps me remain empty of all notions about myself. No matter what the practice is that you are, no matter which country you might be hearing this from, whether it's day or night, what your situation might be in life, whether so family or whatever, this is what I'm saying is true for all of us: the existence is effortlessly present. And in this moment right now, now you are empty of all notions about yourself.

Ananta

Actually, it happens so that satsang is about demolishing our favorite notions about ourselves, favorite concepts. Even now, some of you might be holding on to 'this is fine.' So this fact film ethics, this still not have a particular experience. Did something not be holding on to particular grievance, some idea of individuality? All these are being shaken out of us as you come to satsang like this. The red section, you'll find that many come expecting peace, but you might find that the volume seems even turned up for them because these notions can start to feel like they're suitable. They need to be vomited out to all the clean up, all the empty naturally just isn't here now. If you want, see what happened to this. Not nobility, not an elegant metaphor for the garbage thrown out of it. But if you go and revisit the garbage truck, you just want your favorite necklace or something back, then you might feel like, 'I will avoid the stink of the rest of it, I will only go and get my necklace.' You find the entire thing seems to be there waiting for you. Oh, you come personal ideas about the self, they are ready to be picked up and yet again, this is what we do. We keep really visiting the garbage truck thinking that something meaningful will come out of it while we ignore the God presence just here effortlessly.

Ananta

The world is moving in the light of that presence. When you exist, the world moves on. Wake up in the morning, you see it. If the word is on pause, the body is the what, the heart is already beating, that is happening. The something is going, everything is going on. As soon as you are present, everything is functioning on its own effortlessly. The presence is here. That which is aware of even this presence is completely on the idea of... then does this mean you've got it? Does this mean you haven't bought it? No, because even those are opposition. Even that is this 'something.' 'I am something, now I am free.' Freedom doesn't need a concept to announce itself. This exists. The oscillation of the mind, it goes from 'I'm so bound, bound, bound' to many times in satsang, 'I'm so free, free, free.' Still coming very individualistic, this one still old concept of the body and this highlighting some of our favorite concepts. So what become? You can just allow them to come and go without seven empty. So everything is just good. Even perception is happening just naturally. Who decided it or didn't decide to hear these words? These words would still be heard. We are not deciding to hear the sounds of the world and say they are heard. Exist so that in it so much is happening. Millions of body functions, thousands of perceptions happening every moment.

Ananta

The idea can be that I need to invent this idea for me that is going to help this one from this life super one. There's no 'unless I decide,' 'unless I do,' 'unless I desire,' this life is going to be terrible. Is that one who is beating my heart, that is making my breath function, that has done all of this free on this one? This is arrogance. Arrogance means 'I am separate.' Simple. It is not arrogance to see that I am God, I am as God itself. With the idea that I have something separate which has some power over something, who's arrogance? This is the upside-down nature of the world. Upside-down nature of the mind says to see I am God, but to say that God is limited and his or her limits apply to where this boundary stops. Beyond this, it's up to me what is running the world, but as soon as this body starts, then it's my problem. That would have been... this is what the mind operates. This body-mind, they will separate existence from the business. That's why, 'What does this happen? Why is my life like this? Why do I have to have this problem?'

Ananta

This came to me a few weeks ago, then I noticed the mind's attraction to this fluid, why it's complete repulsion towards this world. Just one, I think savory motion means I'm also using their power to say that everything is moving on its own in the light of my presence. The world of appearances seems to function so naturally. I might not suffer unless I pick up on me from the ball myself. It is the design of the screen as a property segment to be happy, it won't be anything but to suffer. Give me this. But most of us feel childhood was so happy. A lot of time the child is not mixing up its presence with the notion of being something in terms of getting somewhere. If you knew that you are already in the best place you can ever be, so the mind is only telling you that there is a better means on of your food. It is only saluting this to real resistance to what is. What is is not enough for the mind. The part is not enough and there it is, season of sales. So if you see all these advertisements, the paper, they change their old TV, only one exchange. This is what we can do, changing this, say more God, the idea of individual existence.

Seeker

Dear Father, am I playing? I am at my wit's end, so to speak. This forum is not for personal problems, so I'm very conscious of that forum over to do. My role is 55-year-old working as an allergist. My husband, 61, he is very angry and resentful about these morning satsangs just in New York. New York time is money, citizens. I do not wish to give it up, but it was so much unpleasantness in the home. Would you please help me? Thank you.

Ananta

For those, we have to just check whether the resentment is really about the morning satsang, or is it because what happens usually is that the partners feel like, 'Oh, my partner is going on a wrong trip.' It is more taking a wrong... we are not participating in this together. Sometime that resentment can come. So I don't know whether it is just about morning time and the sleep gets disturbed, or whether it is about resentment of feeling like you're more distant because now you have this new thought but somehow he cannot relate to something. So because your allergist...

Ananta

Is it really about the mornings? Is it because what happens usually is that the partners feel like, 'Oh, my partner is going on a trip, and I am not participating in this together.' Sometime that resentment can come. So, I don't know whether it is just about morning time and the sleep getting disturbed, or whether it is about resentment of feeling like you're more distant because now you have this new thought that somehow he cannot relate to. So, because your husband is a doctor, I can ask you: Is this the symptom, or is this the root? If you do morning satsang, I don't feel like that can be the case, because that is simpler to fix, which is just—if he is disturbed in the morning—put some headphones on. Okay, that is there. It might be symptomatic for something else that you might be feeling, which is that he's losing you, or 'You're becoming spiritual; what is this?' All kinds of objections come from there.

Ananta

A little bit of what I found after many years of experience with this is that a little bit of reassurance, saying that 'I'm here with you. I'm not going in my own world. This is just how I'm finding my peace, and I need your help to support me in this.' Communication like that can go a long way. What we must not do—and you might have heard me speak about this—is we must not act without wisdom and say, 'Who is the I who is feeling resentful? There is no me who is attending satsang.' That is a different level from which you need to connect with him at this point. So, once you can see what the root cause is, then you can make it very clear to them that here you don't need to renounce anything. You're not asked to give up our families, not asked to give up a job like this. But you need this little bit of time to find this inner peace. Actually, by allowing you this time, he's getting a much better partner. You see whether that can fill out the disturbance in the morning.

Ananta

Years ago, before I met Guruji, if you heard this little book, 'The Prophet' by Kahlil Gibran, he explained this concept of the spiritual ego. It really helped at that depth. If you're not meeting another in the space of where they are, everything that you might be saying might be true, but you still are being immature. I realized that I did a little of this. This was so true for me at that point of time because, you know, I keep saying, when my wife would come from work and want to share what happened in the day, I would say, 'Who is this I to which it has happened? Who are you that you were substituted?' A lot of this immaturity, then, it is part of my job to remind all of us not to pick up these concepts as a way of attack. This is rampant on Facebook. 'I have understood it best. You are saying this, but Adi Shankaracharya said this. Ramana Maharshi said this.' So, creating all these big guns to be our support to attack other attributes. This spiritual ego is still coming from some sense of dissatisfaction or some sense of doubt about their own discovery. Then, in the wanting to prove it to others, getting some sense of satisfaction, 'Oh, I did get it right.' They forget about the concept of what it is. Even that spiritual ego, we don't need to convince anyone. We don't have to convert anyone. We don't have to change anyone.

Ananta

I know what you are saying. You sit in a different room to avoid disturbing him. Do not ever speak about Advaita? That's not it. Yes, what is it? You can have this conversation. So, what really bothers you about this morning satsang? Is it fear about these Indian Babas? Also, I can understand this. I mean, Indian Babas are not creating a good reputation about themselves. So, to hear about any sort of exploitation—physical exploitation, mental exploitation, financial exploitation—if it is the same fear which we said, that you might be feeling like you are just now following blindly and you are not you. What about him? He's losing you. Saying that, 'I'm not renouncing anything. I am here with you. This work gives me some peace. Please allow a little bit of space.' Another thing I want to remind you, which I speak often in satsang, is that everyone must be given the freedom to be as they are. Don't become resentful of his resentment. If they are feeling something, allow them to feel that. We are accepting the world as it is. This is my message to those family members: no change is needed in this very body. So, the world that we become like a population of streamers, this defenselessness, clarity of what you're discovering about yourself, to see that you cannot be attacked. But I mean, in resentment, you will not become guilty because others' notion about you is the same thing. We now have to see something through our recognition.

Ananta

We have many, many funny situations with partners. No one is here today, so I won't look in that direction. I'll take his name, but his wife and maybe even children might prefer that he goes to a pub, you see? So he can tell me, 'Can you tell them that I was at a pub? They'll be fine.' But if he says that he was in satsang, they become fearful of losing him, that he'll become a sannyasi. We have to work at the concept which might be holding on to the symptom. But most importantly, all this is taken care of now. I'm not associated with the person. There is no trouble. There is nothing as what you say that means the holiness of happy you.

Seeker

Namaste. Thank you so much for today's beautiful satsang. I'm still digesting the sweets. The pointing is continuing to open up here. I'm a bit removed. I'm noticing that maybe for the first time I am struggling with sleepiness during satsang, both with you and Guruji. But between reading the invitation, it is clearly resistance, as I will have had a good night's rest, extra caffeine, etc. I see some personal feelings arising of, 'This is my fault, this is disrespectful,' etc. But it is easier now not to believe these thoughts. Yet, I also wish to remain lucid during satsang. Sometimes I notice that when the wave of sleep comes, I can see it and reject it. At other times, it overtakes me somehow before I have to see. Right now, I feel quite neutral, like a flute player. It would be beautiful to have your guidance. One funny thing I want to share before that is that caffeine always makes me very sleepy. I don't know how people say that they have a cup and they stay up the entire night. For me, a little bit of coffee or tea relaxes me.

Ananta

For this release, caffeine what always comes to see is to not worry about it. I have been saying recently, don't make anything into a special meeting, like you don't have to control it too much. If sleep is coming, actually you might not even be at a certain depth. Sleep at any time in satsang or videos, sleep is a talent. I'm not giving you these concepts to be concerned about it, especially now to this extent where there is the potential of creating things like unworthiness. Okay? One golden rule that we have in satsang is that anything that you hear, even from me, if it causes you to have guilt, then just throw it away. It was not meant for that. Sleep is coming, let it come. Even this, I do not feel like even I have this kind of power. Sometimes I notice that when a wave of sleep comes, I can see it. Thank you. No, no, I think this is quite what I was feeling also. This one is for me. You might even find that when it is no longer a thing, then you might even find that sleep is a very primal function.

Ananta

This body that comes... once a lady came with her husband. He had never been to satsang before, and he was very happy. He's not so interested right now in inquiry and like this. He came into satsang, and she came with her family. So, I was sitting over there, and he was sitting over there, just like eyes wide open and focused. This was his first satsang. He seemed to be quite feeling something was hitting him hard in satsang. Then it happened that that day we said, 'Okay, what are we doing for lunch?' So then we went to Pizza Hut. He opened a beer and said, 'You know, I was coming here and I was very scared that I'll fall asleep. And my wife told me that it's going to be two hours, and I'm also coming to the satsang now. I don't want you to embarrass me, so make sure that you don't go to sleep.' The reason why he was sitting with this worry about it so much was because actually this five-ten minutes of not giving you excuses, five-ten minutes with you, if you do feel it is moving. But my concern is that if even those five-ten minutes you just worried about falling asleep or not, and keeping that checker alive, then it might become more than a solution.

Seeker

So, if all that is like still digesting last week's pointing, and it is done to me, I thought somehow it was a dense satsang, you know? Like those twenty minutes, there were like ten different new seeings. So, I've been watching the video, you know, and sort of, 'Okay, this first one, let me sit and look at this,' and then the next one, you know, similarly. Oh yes, you know, it's very... it's so beautiful, so grateful. It's funny, you lose me with like... the final thought is like, just when you know it's a desist, as a cut, as the mind drops of past and future and then present, and I did it, there's like a dying gasp of like, 'Whoa, whoa, what should I do? What am I?' That's such a habitual feeling of doership, I suppose.

Ananta

That's a little bit about what I was going to also share together with you. Whether there still might be emotion that you've got somewhere to get to, this idea we can look at together. Because right now, here, now, whatever might have happened in the past, this presence would be the same. The story might be whatever, given spiritual insights might have happened, anything. Nothing can change the truth of this presence, the completeness of this presence, which is naturally here. It was not created by you. Nothing you did especially to get to this place. Every moment has always been like this. It is naturally God's gift of now. We live with the choice that God has always had for Himself or Herself, is to play as if it is something limited, something with a boundary, or to play without that moment. In fact, to see that this was the primal choice that God had in the past, which is almost immortal because truly there is no past. There's only this primal choice now.

Ananta

How does God want to play? The thrill of all of the new emotion, the offer of a journey, or the offer of some completion? Even though offering some clarity on who, clarity might come, and even these offers make something limited out of the unlimited. So, what happens is that we come to a point where even that which we call spiritual condition, there comes a point where even that is dropped away. Not dropped away with a sense of rejection or aversion or something, but seeing that this naturalness of this moment right now has nowhere else to get to. It was the idea of the journey, the idea of the spiritual seeker, and latching on to even this coming to the completion of this journey. Now, for some time, the parents can indulge children with the dollhouse and the story of the doll and say, 'It is the dress of this doll. Yeah, we have the doll waiting.' These kind of things. But then after a point, say, 'Okay, okay, even that was a play for a certain time.' And now, I mean that notion that this my being does not have a lack, does not have a story, does not have anywhere to get to, is not even opening more or closing. Nothing is happening to it. The only opening or closing is that whether you pick up your next notion to be like you say, 'Very good experience, I'm almost like gasping for straws now. Something, something to give me an instruction, something I'm supposed to follow for the next few days.' This is a simple pointing. See what you already are here now. Is this pointing time-dependent? No. It has always been this way. The motionless existence is how you please to speak to you some words.

Ananta

What is happening to the only opening or pause is that whether you pick up your next notion to me. Like you say, a very good experience, I'm almost like gasping for straws now. Something, you know, something to give me an instruction, something I'm supposed to follow for the next few days. This is a simple pointing. See what you already are here now. Is this pointing time-dependent? No, it has always been this way. The motionless existence is how you please to speak to you. Some words is how do you start every moment. Motionless existence is how you start every moment. It is already done. The entire way of conditioning seems to come. The good news is that even in that, there is nothing to worry about because this moment you already find from all of them is same to you. The biggest scenario could happen, but in this moment you are the same. This is the purity of consciousness, unblemished no matter what happens. The sages from this one unborn remaining unassociated consciousness of consciousness. If this is the best news I have for all of you, best news in Sweden, there is nowhere to go. But even these what you're hearing in satsang, you could make these into concepts, to make these into notions, and they will again become the advocates for your limitation.

Ananta

You're getting used to your motionless existence or position-less existence. Not even being spiritual, not even progressing, not even ultimately opening unless we insert individuality influence. You cannot become something unless you pick up self-concern. Ways to pick up those self-concern, where am I getting? Just how do I know this? Because we are one. I am the different aspects that we seem to be playing in right now. Consume like just whatever, even the spiritual lipof syndrome, that aspect they seem to be getting let go. So I am inviting you now more, who don't know any constant I can hold on to, any idea of enlightenment, liberation. I'll get in there to market this nameless, naked, open that is to hold on. This is what I found at the feet of my master. This is what is continuing light is sharing with all of you. We do liability mostly. We go to YouTube and type. No crutches, no, no. The checking is probably the most twisted. Now you're doing next. Now what do you mean checking? The checking, not even taking the checking. What's past is past. Finish to check a battery, check on the checkered eye and say, 'Hana, so much check that.' That's a yes. There is nothing valuable in the report that it can give you. All the value is just effortlessly present. All that is of value is effortlessly here. Value will come from an interpretation of bottles. We want to see the actors adjust both animals. That which is mimic fools, that which is value go, it's here without any effort. Does not mean any support, any touches of any stone. Whatever the giving might be implied through an interpretation or a judgment is really this. The habit is that we have taken whatever is and relied on our interpretation of that. Still like it means we are dealing to the life or this one is like this mind. We'll put a window box actually. Why? Because it likes to put you in a box. It wants to keep the secret identity alive for as long as it can. If you have more fetches, it can feel a bit wobbly for some time. What is happening is that only scratches the opening, but this leaves me know that this makes me like this kind of this nowhere. I promise you if we get used to this, no, there is no data heaven to the distant future. Invitation, invitation waiting anymore. What is effortless behave this said this business, yes.

Seeker

I have a commute. I get always triggered here when you speak about something being subtle and I just felt you to speak about this subtlety yours because when the experience of the Self is here, subtlety is nothing. Nothing can be subtle in that sense. Subtlety only makes sense to me when you are in a mixed state of when a little bit mind is in there, you know what I mean? Because when you're just in the pure experience of the Self, nothing is subtle and nothing can be subtle in that sense. And I find myself every time you mentioned the word subtle, I think, and this is what I wanted to share. Thank you.

Ananta

Very good, good. So let's look at this closely. So say that from the Self there is really no concept of subtle. Lord appears distinctions are in both in America. It's completely what you see actually. Nothing that I'm saying, nothing that I'm saying is the truth also from the perspective of the Self. From the ultimate perspective, I cannot speak the truth, you know, just because from that same perspective when you look at anything that I'm saying, actually much can be seen that this I can see that it might be a pointer to this, but is really not doing a good job of describing what this is. Everything including the words of satsang are not clean that way. Now from that space, look at how the triggering happens. Then there must be an idea somewhere that I must hold on to the quality-lessness or the attributelessness nature of the Self in which all the subtle no cross does not really apply. But for speaking as the Self, apparently even that triggering is not Self. Must be an attachment to the nature of the Self which is without qualities to it, subtlety does not apply. So for that you just have to forgive me and say, 'Okay, this old man, he has to communicate it just a wannabe. He has to make that distinction between some concepts which are more obvious see me and some concepts which are a little bit tricky because they're neither black nor white clear here.' So usually when I say something is very subtle, it is trying to get us to this in clarity which is beyond words. But as the pointers go, as far as pointers go, some pointers are very direct. Okay, what I do right now? Really? Ask yourself, 'Who am I?' And some concepts which we just have to look at restart using just so like threading a needle. So when I say subtle, man, this is what I'm referring to. But it's all part of the phenomenal thing. No concept is actually a true depiction of the Self. Given how that reaction might be coming because in here we are having these recognitions, all qualities of the master is saying.

Seeker

And you thinking, can I say something more? Because I think you said something about that it is a concept, might be a concept of the Self that is playing here or so. But I think it's more the other way around. I think I listen to, I listen so many years with the person, you know what it is of the person and or the sense of, you know what I think, what I understand from your words. And now the experience of the real I would say it's just coming and something is, you know, just and in the heaven is just to listen as a person or something. That's the habit somehow. And then you find the experience and that makes that's that somehow gets shaken up. I don't know how to explain that, but it was it was important to speak that up because there's still, you know, this has seems to have this present here, seems to have still juice, you know, to just distract me from the experience which is just here actually, you know what I mean? And that is just the habit and and this some some condition playing, you know, you are just like a little unworthiness or something, you know, just to the habit to make yourself small and not to trust your experience, something like that, you know what I mean?

Ananta

So bad and I have to say there was a position that was taken earlier. Like I have to hold on to someone within a sub position as a person or something like this. And then what I was responding to earlier was that whole thing about getting triggered by it. Triggered by it can only come from a new position which is the opposite of that. So then you can say, 'Now I am going to be true to my experience.' You know, I have taken that for so long that I have not been true to my experience. Now come with me even if others saying I am going to be true to my experience. So this is what I mean by subtle, like this is a very good point. So it seems like a natural shift from that to be forced to not be true to my position because I was told I am not worthy or my mind was constantly telling me I'm guilty and I cannot be free to now have to stand up for my true position. See now, and you know this very well that what we're saying is coming to the emptying of all position. Neither this nor that. Now neither this nor that really cannot really be triggered in that way because only this or that can get. And now I will have the position of 'I have to be true to my experience' nor do I have the position that 'I am unworthy.' And nothing in the world, this is a good illustration of that, then nothing in the world can actually trigger you in that way. Then it becomes a new button, isn't it? So how to make me a trigger is just to say, 'Okay, this is a subtle remote control.' We'll have that button and if the remote control still has the buttons, it is a position. So neither being true to position, neither being true to experience, not being total experience. Ultimately this word is when we cannot be triggered and this is subtle because even here there's the feeling that I have to think you might see. Even here if someone says this like this, like this, like this, then I might even get triggered because I have to be true to my experience. So we are both looking at this together and saying even this position maybe we can talk both of us.

Seeker

Yes, of course the Self has no position at all, you know, and cannot be triggered. Of course, of course that. And and and you you just have to be alert, you know, just being a yeah yeah great. Thank you, thank you.

Ananta

The Father, this is nice. Is not conscious of itself yet this play happens. How does it happen? Maybe it's a conclusion with words because if there is consciousness, only the Self is. So consciousness must belong also to the Self. But there is awareness. I mean the Self is awareness also. Is just a seven. I feel like maybe we're dissecting, dissecting too much in terms of the vocabulary now. You might be confusing the scene. The nature of the Self is the Self is your awareness. So Kuna no article Self or is it for sub, you know, with active you conscious? No, no Father, no no. This this is this thisness, this is this cannot be explained. It cannot, it cannot be communicated with because it is it is beyond everything. It is like a shining Sun. It is like a shining Sun. If you stop because otherwise we'll have to see innovation things is the same thing like you were saying it. If I have to press the button then I will talk something about subtle. So stop. Yeah, okay, okay.

Ananta

Yes, some concepts are very exciting, yes, at the end. Although even the most exciting concepts have to be a certain same warm thoughts and to really attract all these concepts. Even our interpretations of what inside sleeve have a value listen unless we are invited to speak about them. I don't go to people on the streets and say, 'Oh see, but you are not other.' If we had not increased me Budi made empty, I would have been biased either by my concept or you talking about the concepts in the subtle as you say that a truth cannot be spoken. But this encouragement came from you, this permission to remain empty came from you. So therefore I feel sense to remain empty and not pick up anything. Okay, any questions from those who have never heard? Okay, because you know what might happen sometimes is if the regular ones might always be asking the question and those were you might sometimes feel like, 'Oh this is not appropriate' or 'My question is at the lower level.' I haven't heard a question from in the last six weeks so open eyes. Yeah, it's a birthday today we can see and something. Okay, I'm well aware that many times I forget what is in. Thank you all so much for being in satsang today. Satguru Mooji Ji came to such beauty and intensity.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.