I'm Introducing You to a Different Room in Your House Which You Rarely Visit – 11th November 2022

Atma's presence, your—the presence of your being—although it is not palpable through traditional means of seeing the world, that you are aware is heart knowledge that you have only in this room. And there is no way you can pull this back to the room of the mind. It is just apparent to you here. And if it is apparent to you, you're in the right place. So, it works both ways. You can hang on to this and not have any concern about leaving from here. And this apparency of self-knowledge also confirms to you that you are not feeling yourselves. So, the doubt which may come in the head saying, 'Are you even doing this right?' Yes, because you are aware now. These new players, you are not taking any short-term arrangement. You're organizing so that you live here forever.

The fragrance of this house, of this room, may already be palpable for you. It's a very different way of life. Notice that I have not said anything about what to do with the body and where your hand should be or your feet should be. It doesn't matter. You can stay in this room independent of whatever is happening in the perceivable world, in the phenomenal world. This is the only place where anything of value, all of God's gifts, are realized and recognized now. Presence, truth—this is only found here now. All you have to do is be vigilant or guard yourself from the magnetism of the friends, the so-called friends in the other room. The party that is happening in the other room is meant to distract you. It's meant to get you to avoid your truth.

And what's even worse is that when you accept the invitation to visit that room, feeling that you're well-established in the heart, then when you enter the room, you will be bashed up from your seeming friends in that room with notions of guilt: 'You shouldn't have come here. You know better.' So, the same inviter then throws you the two-punch in the combination, a one-two punch combination saying, 'What are you doing here? Don't you see how bad this is for you?' You don't have to indulge. You don't have to convince. You just have to step back in your heart. This is the true meaning of retreat. The minute all this starts happening around you, know it is time to retreat. Retreat back in your heart.

So, this is the beauty of the way of the heart: that here self-knowledge is apparent. That which seemed an unachievable goal only for the rare ones is now so normally available to us. And all that has to be tasted in the manifest, all that can be enjoyed from a true place in the manifest experience, is also only available here in the absence of grasping, craving, and desire. Only here, for the first time, you truly see the world. You may never have noticed even the light around you, but only in the light of your presence will you start to notice now. How can you balance this? What is the need to balance this? This is the supreme intelligence. This is God's light. And in God's light, you don't need to ever figure anything out.

And that for a little while may seem like it is a sacrifice. You may believe that you want to apply yourselves in that way to make progress in your life. That is just the call from the mind. In your heart, all you have to do is—or whatever you think is left of you—all you have to do is follow your heart. So, don't fall for the trick that it's only for spiritual things that I can go through my heart. I can ask the Satguru presence within me, this beingness within me, only for guidance about spiritual things, but for practical matters I have to return back. This is not true. Between the two, the one that provides the intelligence for this world to function is by every parameter the better diet for us to follow.

So, don't get frustrated too soon, and in Guruji's voice, don't even celebrate too soon. But if you find that your mind is insisting that you need some guidance about something but your heart is silent, you have to first learn to trust this silence. It is not that you are not understanding, because in every moment, every instant in the heart, all that is uncreated and created is already apparent to you. But that does not mean that you will be able to use it personally or will even have the words to express it. So, don't rush. So, never leave this room, and when you do, then just come back.

And then as it is God's will, and when it is God's will, then you may start hearing guidance in a tangible—tangible according to the world—form as well. And when you do receive it, then follow it. And we usually just then remain in silence and let your hands and feet and mouths to be taken care of by this very presence. As the presence is palpable, you are not going wrong. Rest in that understanding. Rest in that reassurance. In God's presence, there is no such thing as wrong. So now life has become very simple, and learn to trust this simplicity. It's super simple because for all of you, God's presence is available now. The only thing that will get in your way are your imagined desires, your individual will.

But if you live like this, are you sure? Are you sure that you won't become a beggar on the streets? Are you sure that God may not one day demand a big sacrifice which may seem like a big sacrifice? So, this fear, these doubts will come. And all the point in satsang, all the inquiry in satsang, all the prayers, everything is the antidote to this: the attraction of these dams to pull you back into the force field of the mind and the room of the mind. So, this is basically the outline of the spiritual project. This is what the attempt is. It is not to help me. It is not to make life better. In fact, it is surrendering to the extent of even if life seems to get worse. If in God's light what I take my life to be and how I judge my life to be gets worse, then so be it.

So, spirituality is not about you; it is about God. If you just get that much, this satsang is worth it. You are not at the center of this game. The false 'you' definition is not at the center of this game. So, all that is being shared here is for God, with no way for the 'me' to get better using it. Simple terms, actually, it is the fireplace for the false 'me' to burn itself. What do you need to learn? That call which you get from the other room which says, 'Come, come, you—this you have to take care of.' The rest your heart can do. There is no project greater than this project. There is no juggling possible between the way of the head and the way of the heart.

So, for a while, it will seem like an utter humility is required. Utter humility is required. The minute we start to take ourselves to be something, we're back in the wrong place. And most importantly, don't try to squeeze any of this into your head. Don't try to make the new room inside the old one, because that is going to be the worst form of ego, which is the spiritual ego. If you try to make God part of your existing understanding, God subservient to your perceptions of spiritual experiences, that is what—that is oxygen to your spiritual ego. So, return to complete humility. In Zen, they would call it a beginner's mind. Stay in beginner's mind. It is not to stay in mind at all. Just nothing. What have you done? Nothing. How far have you come? Nowhere. How far do you have to go? Don't know.

So, this thing becomes your shield against any aspect of the ego which will take the biggest gift away from you while under the hypnosis that you are riding the horse of the greatest gift ever. What is being shared with you—the plant next to me already knows this. There's nothing so great about what we are doing. So, in this fireplace of complete acceptance of God's will is a complete act of faith, which is not reasonable. In this fireplace, you will burn if that is truly your longing. In your view with God, you will burn every piece of wood which your mind offers to you. That is why I said that as you begin to be guided in this way, then you have to follow it unwaveringly. And this will oppose any idea of individual will that you have. So, in this way, completely contrary to what your mind may believe at this point, this obedience to God's will is complete freedom, and your head will not fathom this.

Faith which is not reasonable in this fireplace you will burn. If that is truly your longing, interview with God, you will learn every piece of wood which your mind offers to you. That is why I said that as you begin to be guided in this way, then you have to follow it unwaveringly, and this will oppose any idea of individual will that you have. So in this way, completely contrary to what your mind may believe at this point, this obedience to God's will is complete freedom. And your head will not fathom this because in the head, freedom means to be able to do whatever the head wants. To have a God-dictated life to the head seems like an oppressive life, but actually it is not. It is freedom from the oppression of the dividers, of the separator, of the dualist. It is freedom from that oppression which for some time will feel like an oppressive existence to follow your intuition. But already you can see the absurdity in it. If you had two intelligences on offer on which you could live your life, then you would with the great awareness, not the lesser.

So this brings me to an important point, which is that as you're being guided in this and in satsang and as you're with your heart, then don't try to value-add with your head stuff. You don't say, 'Oh, my heart says just be open, but you know that it doesn't work for me. I feel like what works...' You know something and whatever, that's a trick. And you must see the trick by now. If you knew what worked for you, you would not be here. If you knew how you could judge that, you would also not be here. If that knowledge again is coming from the disrupter of your peace, then it is not worth following. The other day, someone said, 'Everything you say, Father, I like to just make it my own in some way and make it original and unique.' So I said, 'Stop it.' Because that's where the distortion can come.

So notice that that which may seem like a freedom is actually a false individuality and a false will. The feast is already laid out for you; it's been cooked well. What happens if you go to a French restaurant and ask for ketchup? In the same way, you don't have to have uniqueness, originality. There's nothing original. And if you could show me the way with which you can determine how something is better for you or not, then I may say, 'Okay, do it.' But you follow the thief's distraction, its diversions, and say, 'I want it only that.' The thief says, 'Go left, you will find me there.' If you say, 'Father, help me go left,' so you cannot work that way. If you see this trick, you'll save you a lot of time. You see this trick because the thief does not want to be caught, so it will say, 'Over there, over there, you see, that's where you'll find it.' And you say, 'Yes, over there. Who can help me get there? Yes, my master.' He should have said, 'No, no, just keep quiet.' 'I don't like... you're not helping me.' So notice all these subtle tricks.

If you learn to, after doing all the due diligence possible in the world—and I'm sure most of you have been here often, if you've done enough due diligence—after doing all the possible due diligence you could do in the world, you must come to a point where you follow. And it's completely laid out for you. Your room is waiting in your heart. The innkeeper is calling you and saying, 'Come.' So now is not the time to fool around. This is how you save yourself really. The mind deliberately confuses you about this. How do you really know you are in the heart? How do you know that you're following intuition and not your head? And I've given this answer, most of you know. Doing what you are is apparent to you, and what you are is apparent to you is foolproof because you cannot fool yourself to such an extent.

What you will do many times is you will rush into it and say, 'Yeah, yeah, that's apparent, now what?' Okay, that you'll fool yourselves in that field. So that is the trick of the mind which tells you there's not enough time, you need to rush, you're getting late for work. You're saying, 'Oh God, please guide me, should I take the bus or should I walk to work?' And the mind will scream, 'What you're saying? You don't have time for that!' But you do have time for that. Anything that you feel like you have to go to your head for the decision, you have the time to go to your heart. So let me expand on this a bit because it can be confusing. As you open and empty as who you are is apparent to you, and the presence of God's light is apparent to you, the notion of decision-making will reduce anyway. Most of your life will happen just naturally with no idea of individual decision-making and doership.

But there will still come moments where the mind's notions will seem attractive, saying, 'You have to decide. Are you going to fly or are you going to take the train? Or are you going to live here or are you going to live there? Are you going to get into this relationship or are you not? Are you going to break up or continue? Are you taking the job or you're not taking this job?' So the smallest thing to the largest thing, the mind will attract you and say, 'Come, come, let's figure this out.' I want to see it in all of you that if you have time to go to the mind, then you have time to go to the heart. And this is the way in which you will save time actually. You may save lifetimes, and many lifetimes as a result of that.

Like I've been sharing about this moment with the broadcast also. I said maybe 30 years ago, 25 years ago, one man followed his heart and with his cool job, he said, 'I quit.' So he followed his heart that moment. But he could have also followed his mind and said, 'No, no, it's a safe job, it's security. You're an artist, what will you do? You will have to do tours in Brixton or something like that.' But he followed his heart, and because he followed his heart, all of us are here today. In the same way, Bhagavan as a kid, as a little boy, felt like he's dying. Just felt like he's dying. But his heart said, 'If I am dying now, I want to see it.' So instead of rushing to Mom or to a doctor, he lay down on the bed and said, 'I want to see.' If that instant had gone the way of the head, then we would be in a different universe.

This is not cowardice; it is courage. These are all the notions your mind has created. So this is true courage: to let go of individual will, trying to follow the guidance from the heart. So don't be tricked into 'no time for this.' Don't be tricked into 'this is too small for God' or 'this is too much, this I have to decide on my own.' Either way, don't do it. You don't have to. Leave this moment in full service, full service, at full service to your reality and not to your false mess. So during the time that it feels like I'm sacrificing something to have this way of life, then just go through without involvement because the mind will distract you with propositions even of release. So many leave the path of satsang, you know, something like this because they've been asked to inquire, and then someone comes and tells them, 'No, no, you don't need to inquire, you're not the doer anyway, forget about it.' See? And suddenly you feel a sense of release, you don't have to inquire. This looks like freedom to me. What was I doing all this time, you see? But trust me, that momentary seeming relief, getting back into the oppression of the mind, is very short-lived. So don't follow these tricks.

At whatever cost, that is where faith is important. If there was no cost factor, if there was no risk, then faith is only lip service. It's just a convenience, armchair spirituality as I've been calling it. And in this, as long as it doesn't become too hot... the instant it becomes too hot in the kitchen, I run. That is not the kind of spirituality that gets anywhere. If it is getting too hot in the kitchen, then you have to stay because all that can be burnt is the false. So your pride, your desires, your roadmaps for life, your expectations, others' expectations of you—everything, everything is going to be burnt in the fire of this option of your heart. And you, what you think you are, will get nothing out of it. It's completely opposite to the self-help type things people are calling satsang in the world. Here I'm saying that you, whatever you may think you have, even that limited 'I' now, are you ready for the fire or not?

This is not armchair spirituality which seems to become predominant. No. If you were asked to give up that which you hold dearest, but in return you got a moment of God, that is the fire with which you should approach this. It is not some very activity-type games, trying to keep it like this. What are you willing to not risk? At least become fully honest with yourself about that. All is fine, I'll follow inside, I will follow Guruji and everything, except this. Because of so much, we will say, 'No, it's fine, everything is fine.' But when we make it like right now, right now, if you were to walk out of your life, if you had to step into a completely unrecognizable life, they go to change planets right now and you don't know which body you will have, who your neighbors will be, whether it will be too hot over there, if it is heaven or hell—you don't know. That is what is being asked. This is the meaning of 'die while you're living.' You have to die to your false selves.

I've been aiming as a practice to stay in the heart, and I'm succeeding or feeling... how do you know? Because sometimes I am and I'm just in my being, and sometimes I'm in my mind. And I have this sense that my mind keeps me...

Let's stop it. If you are dead to yourself, then show me how the mind can be attractive. There is an identity believed in which maybe places God itself in the sense that it knows what's right and what's wrong and fights in my mind about right.

All that is happening in the other room. You don't visit there.

I'm visiting, and it's a good life, hell and heaven. I still go to hell.

Stop those visits. What makes you visit them? You have something of value there still?

I think there is some entertainment of the mind that goes there. Well, this is one of the notions, you know, that it's a very entertaining hell. So heaven is just too quiet, all the harps and angels amongst each other. Here some, you know, like electric guitar or something like that. I don't even like electric guitar. Your mind is playing just... they go. So now what? What will it take for you to stop? How many more adventures like this? Some tickets to India, Australia? I don't know. Until you go back to Australia? I hope not.

I left Colleen's school open in Australia to tease me for a couple of months. It was closing nicely, and then I asked, 'Oh, but if we decide to return, can we extend the exemption?' And I thought we couldn't. I thought, yes, it was very clear. And suddenly he got the... he got the one-year exemption from a well-reputable school, you know, program where they aim for 95 percent presence, physical presence. I do want something. It's very hard to live outside sahaja.

This is... don't hide it, just face it. You have a particular desire of your individual will, wanting your life to go a particular way. But that is not how God is playing it out. And in this way, although it sounds very strange to say, you have to become fully hopeless. With hope meaning an expression of individual will, then that is not the hope.

Can you repeat that again?

Yes. If our idea of hope is that 'my will be done' and not 'Thy will be done,' that is not hope, that is just pride. Because who knows better? It is, it is. And I would manipulate God for peace if I can. See? So this is the moment. Like this, we've moved out of our comfortable spirituality. Because in our comfortable spirituality, we are happy to say things like, 'Everything is surrendered to Guruji and everything is surrendered to God's grace' and all of that. And in this moment, you see, I know everything else but what I want. So that's not a surrender at all, because you cannot be surrendered. I know well, look, even Papaji was... she knew who he was and she here somebody now that Papaji's here. What was Bhagavan's problem? Now you're here, thank you. The way you want to make parallels with Papaji.

In our comfortable spirituality, we are happy to say things like, 'Everything is surrendered to Guruji' and 'Everything is surrendered to God's grace' and all of that. And in this moment, you see, I know everything else but what I want. So that's not a surrender at all, because you cannot be surrendered. I know well, look, even Papaji knew who he was.

And she here somebody now that Papaji's here. What was the one's problem? Now you're here, thank you. The way you want to make parallels with Papaji now... I was trying to say that Papaji knew who he was.

Yeah, what do you want? You only find me. I'm trying to decide what you want. I'm negotiating. Yes, I'm not negotiating. The negotiating in front of what? Who's constant attempt is to bow down to the will of God. So, this negotiation is not very fruitful. How do you know that you know better in this case? Then at least embrace that question that you don't know. I was talking about this the other day. Socrates basically created a lot of trouble by asking people questions like, 'How do you know?' and 'What is this really? Is this really just? What is really truth? What is love?' All of these questions. So by the end, authorities were tired of him and said, 'You have to go. It's time for you to have the poison chalice and you have to leave this world because you're causing too much trouble here.' So then his friends, and some of them were friends in high places, they said, 'Come, come, we'll actually help you escape. We'll go to this foreign land, nobody will recognize you, and you'll be fine.' So Socrates then said, 'How do I know between life and death what I'm supposed to think? And if I don't know, then why should I pick?'

And I don't want to reassure you also now and say, 'No, no, follow God's will because it is better for you.' No, sometimes it will feel like it is burning the hell out of you, which is literally what it's doing. Are you up for it or not?

Yeah, I don't have a choice.

If you did, if you did...

I am up. Wait, I have a choice but I... yeah, it's not a choice from here. I can always choose something that I am not.

So that is my job: to remind you of the only choice there is, to give you the courage to make that choice. You know the right choice in your heart is to follow God, but your head wants to complain constantly to make deals.

My head doesn't like the suffering that comes with it.

But you are liking the suffering that comes with your head. Presence in circumstances which are completely painful in the mind's interpretation is to live in faith. Otherwise, what is this faith? What faith are we talking about? What surrender? What devotion? If you still say 'my will,' then what is the faith? If Grace is guiding you, if Guruji is guiding you, God is guiding you to the most irrational-seeming thing to your head, what is the higher intelligence? If you can see that they are guiding me in a particular way and your mind is saying, 'No, no, that is not right, I know better,' who can you trust? God. And this is where it comes in, because your head is screaming at you, your rationality is saying, 'But how can this be better for me?' But to follow in spite of those rational-seeming ideas is where faith comes in. So try it my way for a few days. Send me a report. I'm not saying my way or the highway. Thank you.

You're audible, I think. Yeah, hello Father.

Hello. Before you start, can I just take a moment? Yes, the other day someone came here and we were not in broadcast, but this child was really... her mind was getting clobbered, you know? It was really getting cornered and I could see the frustration building in her. And of course, it is the most auspicious kind of frustration where the head and heart start to collide and you start recognizing the heart's will. But she started crying and then, you know, of course this one is also a big softie. I was saying that actually, as a worldly father, I would say just give the gift to all my children, and even if their mind wants something else, it's fine, don't worry, indulge them, it's fine. You see, let them not cry over this. But it's so clear in my heart that this submissiveness of individuality is a prerequisite. You cannot, we cannot have it both ways. We need God's life to live in God's presence, and still have pride is impossible. So I may want to help my children with everything, but this, you know, I cannot do the continuity. Yeah.

Um, yeah, it's just everything you said at the beginning, I feel like you already told me everything that I needed to hear. I don't know, yeah, I feel like I probably I've been listening to my mind too much lately.

Yeah. Is it about some work or something? Some particular theme which is there?

Yeah, there's like the typical juggling of lots of things, like a busy, busy life lately. And there's too much of the idea of control and just wanting to be on top of things. But also, I miss this session that I feel that I need to make and that I have been feeling that way for a few months. And it feels like it's not clear what to do. And well, you talked about this at the beginning. It's not about... I don't even need to know. And it's like you say, when you go to the heart, then even the idea of having to make a decision goes away. It's not so much like, 'Oh okay, so the heart will tell me like a compass, I go here or go there.' And I can see that, but it seems like most of the time I cannot see that.

Let's pause here because this is important. So I'm not saying that when we go to the heart, the need for guidance may always go away.

I'm saying most of the time... sorry, I couldn't hear the last. May always what? Sorry.

I'm not saying that it will always seem like it went away, you see. Mostly, as we are open and empty and our presence is palpable, then the idea of decision-making itself is not the most. But when we do need guidance, then we can approach the Satguru presence within us, you see, with humility and say, 'I'm fully lost as far as this is concerned, and my mind is calling me with all kinds of solutions, but could you please? Because that is the only guidance I want to follow.' So I said that initially, if there is silence, then we trust that silence. It only means that we don't know intellectually what you want, you see? That we trust the silence and remain in the presence and allow life to unfold. Whichever, whatever comes out from that presence naturally is acceptable, you see. But there will be times where you will receive clear guidance which the mind will try to become noisy and distract you and say, 'No, no, this is just your mind talking,' all of that. And that's why I've given you the tool, which is to see whether who you are is apparent to you. And as that is apparent to you, if you receive some guidance, then you must follow that one. There is ringing as counter-intuitive as it may seem, intuition and you'll see counter-intuitive initiative.

Well, I do feel lost and...

Let's do this. Direction to take and yes, so let's do this together. Yeah, do this together now. Just remain open and allow your true self to be apparent to you. From here, Father, please guide this child if that is your will, and if some words could come for her in terms of the decision that is playing out in our lives. In that computer they put food and you know, this will be now. You just have to be like you're in a real conversation, not a foreign. God is tangibly with you in your heart. Guru is tangibly with you in your heart. Then don't censor yourselves. Is your mind... do you want to censor everything? If anything has come, don't judge. So allow it to unfold in that field. And if as long as there is silence, then trust the silence. No rush. Some answers are based on the student in silence itself. But this kind of invoking for guidance must be done with the full fields. That's it. So as long as nothing arises there, then marinate in that silence. Don't decide to act. This fear that you and get naturally in that silence, action can unfold. Or if you find yourselves with some intuitive clarity about what guidance is there, then just follow. Nothing else you have to do. So this now you can no longer call lost, although your mind will see this. Now you call it that you handed it over to God. Now it's all God's to do. You've done your part. That's the extent to which you can go. That's all. Usually says that it's too little. After this, whether guidance comes which is diluted, whether you will mess up your life, whether all of that will happen is not your business anymore. That means faith. That means okay.

So you may receive some guidance. You may pick up first thing, your heart may speak to you. For example, like this, like this, like this. My mind will say, 'But that is just going to mess everything up. How do you know this is not the mind?'

In the past, when there have been big, big movements and there has been guidance, the guidance has been so, so, so, so, so, so clear that it was very easy to follow because it was like a direct movement. It was clear. It wasn't... there was no debating. It was okay because it came from... because I could see that it came from myself, yes, not from some outside something or not from the mind. But it's not a two thing, it's a one thing. And maybe I'm expecting that type of guidance now, and if I don't receive it, I feel like kind of like at a standstill.

Yes. So there are two aspects to this. One is that in the act of faith of being in the heart, when life puts us in this condition—which is actually life doesn't, but our minds—where we believe that I have to decide, then when we make a humble request to the Guru's presence in our heart, then the first cause of mental frustration could be that I am not receiving an answer. So the attitude to that really is just trust that silence. Whatever direction you could take conceptually based on that, the silence is a better direction. And that's why God is not being unkind or playing hard to get or something. God's presence is always there. So trust that the silence is the best for you. You do not at the moment have the capacity to understand this mystery. So He's allowing that to unfold in that way. And when it is a more auspicious or at time, then it may reveal itself, you see. But this needs faith. So that is the first deepening of faith: to trust silence as it is guidance. Trust the silence to be guided, not a rejection. That is the first one.

The second point is that sometimes the guidance may come which may be the opposite of the confirmation that we are looking for. So we are just looking for approval, certification from the higher authority.

No, I feel maybe I'm fooling myself, but I don't feel that way. I really feel that I want to be where God wants me to be.

Yes, yes. So when your being is apparent to you, you see, then there's no possibility of who you are not fooling ourselves like that, because the mind has no sway over you and the mentally you process yourself is not apparent to you. So you're not fooling yourself.

Can you repeat the last thing? Did you say the last thing?

I was just saying that it's only under the hypnosis of the mind is it that the Self does not seem apparent to you and your being doesn't seem to be present. So when the being is present, then the light, when God's light is present and your Self is apparent to you, there's no way you can fool yourselves. And if when you are fooling yourself, then God is fooling you. That's not your problem, you see. It is not your problem anymore, not your business anymore.

What do you mean, God is fooling me?

So I'm saying forget about when you are in the apparency of Atma Gyan, then you don't have to keep tabs on right or wrong, good or bad. None of that is your business anymore. Is it fooling, not fooling, right, wrong, good, evil, bad? All this is not your concern because universal intelligence is on the job. So that is the first thing. So when we receive, if we receive guidance which is contrary to what your mind wants, then that is also the deepening of faith.

Anymore, what do you mean God is following me? So I'm saying forget about when you are in the apparency of self-knowledge; then you don't have to keep tabs on right or wrong, good or bad. None of that is your business anymore. Is it fooling, not fooling, right, wrong, good, evil, bad? All this is not your concern because Universal intelligence is on the job. So that is the first thing. So when we receive—if we receive—guidance which is contrary to what your mind wants, then that is also the deepening of faith. Because otherwise, if we just go into God for approval, then that is not faith. So in both cases, you deepen your faith either by trusting guidance, trusting silence to be the guidance, or trusting that which is contrary to what you would have wanted otherwise to be the guidance.

Is it possible that we feel like, because usually it seems that these things are simple, simple, and this time they—it doesn't seem that way and, um, so it's not going to be simple, simple all the time?

Maybe the starting modes were simple. It's not going to be simple all the time because, again, I'm being a bit biblical, but it's not simple to get on the cross. And for a moment, even the most obedient son can say, 'Father, have you forsaken me?' So don't expect it to be like easy. It is simple, but it's not easy. Simple only in the sense that you have nothing to do. You could make a request at God's feet; you've done that. You could reiterate that request; you could ring the bell again if you want. But there's nothing you can do. So that way it is very simple. But the actions of conceptual guidance, or to receive guidance in the form of some words which are opposed to what our mind wants, you see, it's not always easy.

I don't know what the mind wants. And the reason why I said that the simple, simple thing before is because I feel, yes, I have a sense of that, that it is simple when we don't carry the burden of individuality. It is simple. But obviously at the crossroads where you're at right now, it seems like you're taking yourself to be something or someone who has to decide. And if there's an 'ouch'—if God says go left, there's an ouch; if God says go right, there's an ouch—then know that it is the opposite of what you want.

Can you repeat the last thing?

Yes, yes, because you were saying that I don't really know what the mind wants. Yeah, so one way is to just say, 'Okay, God.' If God said go left, yeah, would that be an ouch there? Would there be a certain ouch there, or would go right be an ouch here? No, no, I don't feel that way. I feel like, I feel like just guide me. Yes, that's how I feel. Good. Like, but the only ouch is when you don't say anything.

The only ouch is when I don't say anything? When God doesn't guide you?

Oh, maybe that's the ouch right now.

Yes, but trusting God's silence enough to take that to be guidance. Yeah, maybe that itself can be a very good rhythm. It was so special that God should talk to you.

And yeah, like I said before, and there have been moments of more openness and then what I see is I can embrace not knowing. It's happened before that I have completely lost... don't know anything, and I don't know like about myself in life.

So this 'I' who can do either embracing the not knowing or wants to know, this is not you. No. So shine your light on this one, and may it burn in the fire of that light because that one has a seed of becoming a spiritual ego. If God did not guide you for, like, 30 years and you're still waiting on the same decision for 30 years, you still have faith in God? In the heart? How's that related? Like, 'Tell me this or tell me that, but tell me.' And whose voice is that? So you'll always find, if you feel like there's some guidance that is needed, then you can always find the... find out.

You're completely sending me out right now, Father. Telling the ego out completely from all its tricks.

Sometimes, I mean, no, it's very straightforward. Like if you believe that you need some guidance and you say, 'I'm okay like this, I'm okay like that,' you see, then really you don't need guidance. You see? But what you're really saying is that 'I want to be reassured of something and I want God's reassurance for that.' And that wanting also is individual.

Yeah, I feel like I'm on a crossroads and it's time to decide. Okay, are you gonna do this? Are you gonna be here? Are you gonna be there? What are you gonna do?

And what has given you this notion that this is the time to decide? How do you know?

Mind. But before it was... it felt like heart, now it feels like mind.

Yeah, heart is never in a rush. But I'm still saying that if these moments come and we believe that we have to decide something, yeah, and we can petition God for guiding, but we must learn to trust the silence as guidance. It teaches us immense patience and faith. And then when guidance comes, then we must not second-guess it.

Rather, when you say we must trust the silence as guidance, yes, is that the same as saying it's okay to not know?

Yes. To understand that in my heart the answer is received, but the answer is beyond conceptualization, beyond the worldly ideas of left, right, do this, do that. Yeah. Presence contains a complete answer to the universe in one instant. God's presence in the apparency of yourself as awareness, there where you know yourself, everything is always known. But that doesn't mean that that knowledge pops up on the surface and shows up as a way for us to use personally. Yep. This is the real field of the heart, and this field is only deepening in this process. And in a way, these crunch situations are very helpful. And so it is my blessing that even if there is silence in your heart, may your faith only deepen because of that and not be diluted by that. So this is very good interaction because this is really a rubber-hitting-road interaction. It is not like a conceptual spirituality or like this and like that.

I feel like painful dissolution, you know, so many notions getting squeezed in this light.

That can go to God. Then our expectation is things become simple, simple. You see, naturally you're saying that they are simple, simple, but not easy. My job continues to be very simple, but our acceptance always is not... doesn't seem that easy yet. And why do we need to accept silence to start with? That's why I said excellent to accept silence as guidance for the moment. And then accept if something comes as guidance which you can conceptually say, 'This is the guidance.' Then even if that is the exact opposite of what we want, then to trust that is also acceptance, is also faith. So the acceptance or the faith in the heart is independent of silence or not silence, and not running back to the mind saying, 'My heart's got nothing for me, what do you have? Okay, God is not guiding me in this, I'll have to come to you.' So not rushing back, then that is what I mean when I say accept the silence as guidance. So don't rush. Your mind will keep using time to convince you that there is no time to stay in the heart. It'll keep using time to tell you that there is no time for you to be it like this. There always is time. Time is in service to God, not the other way around. And in your heart, you already know that. Soon you will see the grace in all of this. So I know you enough to know that about you, that already that faith is there. Devotion, trust, all these are other than just fancy words. And if God operated on the clock, 'No, I asked you already three minutes ago, yeah, why haven't you delivered my pizza yet?' So this is very good to meet this with integrity, to meet your mind's provocations and to expose them, to take them to God. Many times the silence of God, and to learn to have faith, that is the best answer at the moment. So if there are two wings to this bird of freedom, one is the wing of insight of Atma Gyan, and second is the wing of bhakti or devotion, which mostly I'm referring to with the word faith rather than devotion. So I feel like being in satsang this long, most of you, the insight is quite apparent. The insight about who you are is quite apparent. But when the mind pushes you with some of these situations in the world, then it sort of tries to pull you back into itself, and there your faith will be very helpful as well.

Thank you. And when you say faith, you mean just trust?

Just trust. Don't expect rationality. Don't expect life to make sense for you, for you to have sensible answers. And an extreme patience. And extreme patience. Patience is only possible with faith. The way we get shaken up, shaken up by the mind's provocation so easily—'Oh, this one said this, I have to do this'—and you're all shaky very easily. So you've done your bit, now be patient. He's in adaptation. This is lifetimes for the mind. All of these things completely absurd. It seems like a cop-out to them. 'That's very convenient for God.' Well, this is the doubting, this is the doubting Thomas. So sacrifice your life to God even if He doesn't answer for the entire life. You have not deluded yourself by going to the mind, and that is it.

Is it possible for God to give guidance and for me to not be able to hear it?

Yes, yes. And that is what we're saying. So God is always giving guidance, but we are expecting that guidance to be in the form of an answer that is a thing. Trust the silence as guidance for us. So trust that that is not God's turning away. God can never turn away, you see. God is just waiting for us to turn to Him. So accept that in the greater intelligence of God, silence is the best answer at the moment. You see, that is the first thing. The second thing is when something comes, then your mind will say, 'No, no, this is just the mind.' This is your mind itself will say so. Then that will feel like, 'I'm not able to hear it.' And that's why I've given you the tools to make your self-knowledge apparent to you. And as self-knowledge is apparent to you, you cannot be fooling yourself. Let's see. It's a bit upside down, our kind of satsang. In most other satsangs, what happens is that everything else leads to the moment of insight. Everything else leads to the moment of insight about your true reality. Here, by God's grace, I'm saying use that insight to wipe out what remains of your conditioning. That insight is apparent through God's grace. So we can use that insight. Otherwise, in most of the spirituality, it's not possible to say when your Self is apparent to you, then you're in the heart. But that's what... because in most notions, that takes a lifetime to have an instant of self-realization or self-recognition. It's so beautiful that I can say this to you. When your true Self is apparent to you, then you cannot be under the hypnosis of the mind and therefore you could not be deluding yourself. It's completely absurd, of course, but still straightforward.

Can I ask you about the other thing too, about the control thing? Yes, because with reference to what we just discussed, how to give you the question... try to invoke a question for later.

In faith, it means the depth of faith that we are speaking on, there is no notion really of individual control. So any attempt to try and navigate this river called life is a false control. No, you said of yourself, it's like trying to control the flow of the river with a twig. You cannot do. Often in life, it seems like it's not clear what it is to let go of control when we are in the middle of busy activity and trying to get everything right and all those things. Yes, but you have to move rooms to the room that I showed you. Then the outwardness of busyness can still be there, yeah, but you know inwardly you're not trying to control, manipulate, or succeed, achieve. And that might even take the form of someone really on top of things and everything not... or we could be just like, become a bumbling fool at work. It's okay. That can become like a benchmark. Yeah, the mind can use and tell you that, 'Ah, see, you're not being super efficient and productive. If you were operating out of heart intelligence, then you would be so beautifully juggling everything.' It doesn't... so even this is about faith. Can we remain in the heart even if we become bumbling fools at...

Succeed, achieve, and that might even take the form of someone really on top of things and everything. Or we could just become like a bumbling fool at work. It's okay. That can become like a benchmark, yeah, the mind can use and tell you that, 'Ah, see, you're not being super efficient and productive. If you were operating out of heart intelligence, then you would be so beautifully juggling everything.' It doesn't. So even this is about fields. Can we remain in the heart even if we become bumbling fools at work and relationship or in anything? We go to yoga class and start doing Pilates. This is subtle because the mind also loves that somewhere I can be then like super rebellious or something. No, it also loves that. That's not what I'm saying at all. The mind also tries to replicate words of satsang and say, 'Ah, okay, we can do this tomorrow.' Then it is going to make a mess, or do everything at work and you just keep smiling, okay, and then we are sorted. Not at all. It is to remain in the great unknown and to allow the presence to navigate everything as it is doing anyway.

Okay, surrender is to not make exceptions and to say, 'No, no, for this I need my head. For this I can't afford to go wrong, so I will go to my mind.' What is the message in that? The message in that is that when we can't afford for things to go wrong, then why must we go to the lower power? But in a way, the mind is being used when we are organizing things, planning things, that type of thing. The mind is there. No, just check for yourself. Many times you will start to notice also that, no, you may send a mail to someone saying, 'Let's meet at three o'clock,' but you didn't have to think about it. It just came in. Duty is there.

Is there a theme to satsangs? You see, and you've done a lot of translations and things like this, you notice that there is a theme to the satsangs. A theme to such things in the sense that I always notice that although there is no plan like that, you see, the conversations on a particular day seem to be around similar topics. Around similar topics and answers also seem to be on the same theme. So independent of the attempt to use tactics and strategies, still things flow in this intelligent way, and that is the intelligence of the heart, you see. And many times it is not linear like the mind's way of intelligence. It is, as I say, symphonic, right? So the notes keep building, but they don't always build in a linear way. So in a symphony, after you hear a lot of it, then you recognize the pattern, but you don't necessarily hear it immediately. So in a way, life is like that. Trust the symphony of life. Yes, it is not understandable in our head; within our heart, we know it is beautiful and it is graceful. So it is not that God is bad at planning. It is just that God's plans are not immediately graspable by our heads. Though the head sometimes comes to these mistaken notions of spontaneity and creating a rebellious life. So okay, let me try to drill it down into one sentence: Come what may, stay in your heart. That's all I'm saying all this time.

And it's been so, as Sangha, from last satsang, it's been so compelling. You know, you're called Father. Yes, it also invites often the second punch because you see the contrast between what you ask for and then how often we stray.

Yes, yes, and that is very important. Otherwise, it becomes a very complacent sort of spirituality. So my job, as I've been saying, is to make you uncomfortable. Now, as long as there are things which can make you uncomfortable, I'm going to do that because that is where the blind spots live. That is where our complacency lives. That is where our pride lives. That is where mental understanding serves as a replacement for heart understanding, but we don't spot that yet. So to offer you instructions which only your heart can understand, but your head will get frustrated by, like the invitation to jump without knowing how, without knowing where, just fully jump.

Jump into becoming fully open without knowing how, without knowing what you need to do. I'm so happy that the call is being heard. That means your heart is starting to speak to you so beautifully because I was a bit concerned after the first satsang that I didn't get so many tantrums. And I heard the reports from last week. I was touched by how many felt the call of the heart, which is the true act of faith. Because if it is purely absurd and only in the head, then there's no question of frustration, isn't it? If it is just like if I say to you, 'Okay, now there's a kangaroo in front of you, go offer it some cookies,' then your heart immediately hears a call. Your heart hears the call, but your head hates that, saying, 'How? When? Where? I've already jumped three weeks ago. I saw him, nobody.' You see? So all this resistance can come, and then that is the beautiful friction to burn this fire. These are the rocks which are causing friction which we need to burn this fire where all the ego can be burned. Otherwise, it can hide very conveniently in Advaita. Very conveniently. Where in the words of Advaita, it can also be very convenient hiding places for the spiritual ego.

Yeah. Oh well, yeah, when it is God's will to jump, God will jump. Always God's will anyway, you see, this kind of stuff.

So when I'm saying, 'No, no, you jump,' and I also said something about this for the first time, I feel, in response to something Claudia asked: higher than our acceptance of God's will in perception—this is of course, we must accept whatever we are perceiving as God's will—but even higher than that, we must elevate what our heart is guiding us to as God's will. I don't understand. Yes, if you like, where is the question of jump or become open and empty or anything? If it is going to happen, it will show up here and that will be what God's will is. So what is this invitation, this provocation for? So when your heart is calling you, you have to value that above all things, even in perception.

Yeah, so the realm of perceptions is the changing realm. It is what we call Maya. Now, it is not in the design of Maya to lead you out of Maya. So it can also become very convenient for us to say that, 'Oh, all of this is God's will,' you see? But then all of Maya is God's will and there's no escaping from it, you see. So what is the escapement mechanism from this Maya that is built into Maya? And I'm oversimplifying it, but let's say that God has created this intricate universe, this intricate movie, like a 4D, 5D, whatever the movie this is. And God is aware that it's so intricate that even God may start to take it to be real for too long, you see? Just, I'm using a metaphor to try and say what I'm saying. It's not possible for that to happen, but suppose. So then what would God have to do? God would say, 'Okay, let me then create a reminder system for myself, an alarm clock,' you see? Which then, if I'm too involved, you see, if I'm too involved with all of this and suffering is happening and things like that, I'm taking myself to be this limited entity here, then let there be an appearance of something which is directly connected to the heart of the truth and serves as a reminder for us to wake up.

See, so although in the design of this play nothing is meant to take you out of the play—it is meant to perpetuate the play—then God has also created the alarm clocks in the form of masters, sages, masters, teachers, whatever you want to call them, who will relentlessly ask you to wake up, you see? And something in you, the reality, let's call it a memory moment—it is really the memory of your reality, the memory of the remembrance that you are God itself—starts to resonate with that alarm clock. So in this way, then, within the realm of Maya, we come across something that leads us to that which is beyond mind. Otherwise, Maya in its own design is not meant to do that, you see. So if we say that everything that happens here is God's will, which it is, but we use that as an excuse to not listen to the master and not listen to our heart, is it then Maya's goddess to higher than conveying that the play of this world is also God's will? And operating in God's will, we must learn to jump at God's call within your heart, whether you hear it in the form of the master or you hear it within your heart, and not put it under some other talent, 'Oh, when it's meant to happen, it will happen.'

Who am I? Is that another way of saying that everything that manifests is, and it's God's will and it's okay, but accepts that manifestation can flow through what we call ourselves, through this body as well, and then that needs to be heard too? Is that what you're saying?

No, not really. The manifestation, like the body, is as much part of the dream as much as the rest of the dream. So let's not presume that some part of the dream is not coming from this body, that body. The whole dream comes from Being. The whole happens on the screen of Consciousness itself. So there's no question of individuality there. But having said that, Consciousness playing in this way as if it is the central character in the dream, you see, can use all this conceptual knowledge also to avoid waking up from the dream. So that knowledge which is meant to serve as a balm from the suffering in the human condition, where we say, 'Yes, trust all of this because it is Maya, firstly, therefore not real and cannot hurt you, and whatever even happens in the realm of Maya is happening with the intelligence of God,' right? So that serves as a balming sort of feeling to us. So it gives us a reassurance that we are not abandoned. But many times, like everything in the world, everything has the pros and the cons.

So if we start using these pointers to then say, 'Oh yes, so then why should I inquire? When it is meant to happen, then I'll inquire. Okay, let me be closed and full and then when God wants me to be open, I'll be open.' So it becomes like an avoidance. And that is why I'm saying that treat everything that you perceive as God's will, but even higher than that, treat the guidance that you are getting from your heart. Then you cannot rely on any conceptual spiritual knowledge. Your spiritual encyclopedia will not become a spiritual ego if you continue to follow your heart's guidance. Otherwise, very quickly, like Ravan, we can say, 'Why should I bow down to Ram? Because I have learned that all is one. If He is God, then so am I.' That is the misuse of spiritual knowledge. It's like putting misinterpretations of what we heard before the actual voice of God in our hearts.

Yeah, and actually to not recognize that any pointer cannot capture the entirety of it. Any set of words is limited, and to take a set of words which are limited to be an absolute truth is a mistake. And that's why Guruji says, 'Don't make tattoos out of my words.' Is it because they're pointing for the moment? They are breath of life. But when that is being pointed to you from your heart and the instrument which your heart is using at the moment, which is the outer appearing master, so to take conceptual ideas to capture the mind of God in a sentence, to presume that reserve privacy is a funny. So therefore, if you were to say, 'Okay, now what am I really guiding to? What am I really saying in satsang?' and you know as well that I am not really, I can't really have an answer to that. It just has to be moment to moment. It just has to be from what is appearing in my heart to say at that particular moment. It cannot be made into a template or a system. The only reason we make these broad sweeping sort of systems like the way of the heart, then there's insight and then there is faith, just to give you some broad framework, you see? Just to give you some broad framework. But if you become over-systematic, then that will be a disservice. Then we are trying to create a new religion, which we don't need to. The aliveness of the way, the aliveness of the heart must be kept fresh. And that is why satsang in this way is powerful, because then we don't have to be careful about not contradicting, you see, making sort of a linear philosophy. No, just one moment, right? Maybe just.

Then there is faith, just to give you some broad framework, you see. Just to give you some broad framework. But if you become over-systematic, then that will be a disservice. Then we are trying to create a new religion, which we don't need to. The aliveness of the way, the aliveness of the heart, must be kept fresh. And that is why satsang in this way is powerful, because then we don't have to be careful about not contradicting, you see, making sort of a linear philosophy. No, just one moment right, maybe just left, right, left, right.

You have Masters who will get upset with you if they have said, 'Now go left,' and you're going left, and they will get upset with you and say, 'I told you to go right, why are you going here?' So what is that squeeze? What is that trust? It's like a living Zen. Go on, yeah, giving them... so all Masters, as harsh or as soft as their expression may seem, will always have this quality to confuse the intellect completely. And they're not doing that even then; they're not pointing to the view of the Earth with some other project. So to take you beyond your rationalities is the main project. Yes, and how happy you continue to show up. All of us will become a true Sangha when we keep showing up, but we don't know why. All right, thank you.

Okay, I feel like I've said anything actually. Let me speak to... can I speak? But how do you pronounce? Media? I'm messing it up.

Namaste. Thank you so much. And oh, I get that YouTube Grace which allows us to gather like this. Yes, sorry for my simple English.

Don't worry. I don't know what to say exactly. Actually, I feel also my heart beating. Girl, be completely at home. Allow it to unfold very naturally as it will. Whatever time it needs is fine. Let me just for a moment mute everyone again. Okay, and now I'm going to ask you to unmute again. It's okay now?

Yes, perfect. Um, just I felt to take this opportunity to expose what is there, no? Yes. Um, on all what it is is, by Grace and unaffordably attracting me to the truth. Yes, to this full yesness. Yes, to say yes fully to this. And gradually I'm noticing that what is there in the realm of the mind becomes losing its potency, even if it is still showing up, but I cannot believe it anymore. Very, very good. All the fears and desires still coming in different shapes, yes. And I complete looking at it and I see how it is false. And just by looking, why it is there just becomes so clear. It is habits, pure habits. It's nothing.

So I think one time I saw one was talking to Papaji and he said to him, 'Papaji, be my last Papa.' Yes, and I feel it completely too, like all my heart saying with it too, Guruji, to be my last Papa. Yes, let it be in this life, let it be, no? Yes. And it is changing, becoming more truthful and more peaceful. And it is clear that it is, you know, from this changing happening in front, what is unchanging. So it makes all changing okay. Beautiful, thank you. But it's not itself important, let's say. Yes, okay. But this fire inside and outside, just all the time calling, calling, calling: come notice and just remain in this. Cannot just to say yes. I don't know, sometimes I feel the mind also wants to not suffer anymore, to get rid of itself, but to finish it now, now. All tendencies, all have its own, but some... this is seen in front on something more pure, just saying yes out of love for this truth. Love to be true and to not believe the lies anymore. Always things come like discovering that still something hidden here or there, and by Grace it is exposing gradually. And yes, it felt to expose to maybe something also still can be exposed now or have some instruction. So, and thank you so much.

Okay, beautiful. I want to say first that such a joy to hear heart-soaked words. That are soaked in the heart, they carry their own fragrance and it's so beautiful to hear them. So thank you, thank you. I feel like there's hardly anything left to say to you, but we're just coming to say to can notice something. In this, the next part of what you say, take a risk. They do something dangerous. Say something dangerous which your mind would hate or just not want to expose or something. Just dive into something degrees.

Okay. Um, okay. I'm lazy one and always the postponing things to do it.

What would you not do for God? Sorry, if God came in front of you right now and said, 'You have to do this,' what would you hesitate to do, if not not do? If to make sure that I understand the question, if God came now and asked me to do something, but and I will hesitate to do it? Yes, what's it will be? Yes.

I felt like if anything I feel I have to do for to go fully in the truth, I will do it. I had this feeling, but I don't know if there is something.

So God came to you right now and said, 'Tell those funniest joke that you know in front of all these Sangha members.' Would you do it? He's starting, he's starting small. Yeah, okay. Tell us all right, silliest joke. It doesn't have to be funny.

Okay, I'm trying to remember and it's okay. What is... oh, what is the silliest thing you've ever done? Silliest thing, yes, that you have ever done, you feel? Yeah, okay. See, ridiculous or something like this. Something to defend myself, to defend myself personally, and as if it is real or as if I will die if I become the fault or the loser in the talk, no? This happens still until now sometimes. And during even during the talk ahead, what it is, but it's yes. So you continue because it started, so you have to continue. Actually, it's the most ridiculous. This happened with the people who are close to me, yeah, my family and my friend also, the best friend let's say.

That's sweet, thank you. Thank you. This is what I get, what this game... of course there's many of ridiculous things. It's a good, good of you to share like this in your first time coming up. Actually, I was with you last week, this was first time, and I'm so happy to be in this place and thank you for the report. This is really touch my things. Can I say some something? Yeah. Is with us. Oh, let's say the name again. So thank you, very good. I'm so happy to hear. Thank you. Because I can see that something's been pulled into, pulling into silence. So Robert, I heard from a bit, let's go to New York. Hello, hello.

I don't know actually concretely why I come. Yeah, I was attached on two satsangs ago when you asked us to jump. So deeply charged, I don't know why. Yes, there's such a longing to jump. All right. Yes, and after that a great turmoil is now inside the morning. Yes, tomorrow, yeah, like or is the tantrum? I don't know what tantrum is, but isn't it? Yeah. And yeah, and then this... you also said when we jump there's a hand you hold us because sometimes it's so scary. And I don't know if you shouldn't say from history also, but this maybe I mentioned it and if it's then it's... but um, my father wasn't... it was a very good example in many things but not... he ended his life and and I was very young and we all three brothers and my brothers and my mother and my son, my uncle, yeah, the whole world of course please. And um, there's sometimes it's this way and you said facing trust but also you hold our hand because sometimes it gets so scary and I... I'm then I understand why my father did it. I can understand then. But otherwise, yeah, when may come with what would come as I can as much face I have. But your words were so full of love and they are heard from many of us, I feel, and life is too much better.

It's true. This is the beautiful thing. The request is to jump, the reassurance is that I've got you. This reassurance only your heart knows. That's a deep... but thank you, thank you for the support. It really touches my heart. Has been made so deeply. So I'm so glad that it's also providing research fuel for all of this to burn, to be released. This is very good. Look, getting the exact vibration of what the feeling behind sharing those words were. And that has been the feeling for a few weeks: to shake us out of a sort of completion spirituality into living real relationship with God. Yeah, that the call is being covered in this way. And I also exposed something because I feel also this the other side when when it's going well I'm easily going then. Um, I'm so great and all this is is... yeah, this is the method and then so like I continue the circle all by myself.

Yes, yes. My biggest nemesis, so to speak, where that is concerned is the spiritual. I feel like most of you will not get stuck for too long in, but when the world of satsang itself becomes the defenses for the ego and it doesn't allow me to maneuver, you know, becomes very stiff with spiritual understanding, that has been... I've seen my nemesis in some ways, like our channel enemies, so to speak. So if it is something in the world and things are not, I'm not really concerned. But when I notice if any of you start becoming very mentally spiritual or something, then I saw the job. Yeah, so some of this minor adventures in the world, of course I'm saying stay in the heart completely, but as they happen, those don't concern me as much. Absolutely. Yes, because now you should be able to... okay. Well, that's today with us had come so far and with the reports. Thank you, thank you. Love to you and your full family and and there with you. Thank you very much.

Maybe one last one for today and it has to be there, just the almost birthday boy. It's like what that's what but there was well two days back. Hello, namaste.

Yeah, but you called me as well because I haven't been live on talk on for a while. I've been always listening later, two or three days later. And yeah, um, was also very touched by these satsangs where it's... you said to jump and um, there were times where I just didn't understand what is going on a bit and um, didn't make sense. But then you said, 'No, it's not supposed to make sense,' and it also resonates. But yes, it's true when... yeah, that's why there's no really question this time. It's just... I don't know, um, something maybe somewhere has to happen. Yeah, yeah.

So this is it. This is now become a two-way, two-way absence of conceptual understanding. But I hear you so well in my heart. I have a complete sense of what you're saying in my heart. But if you were to ask me, 'So what are the words? How can you explain what I'm saying?' I don't know. I know that in hearing the words from here and feeling the presence of satsang, something is being met at a different level. And we all recognizing that, or most of us are recognizing that, but we may not have the words to explain. Or what we're recognizing is too God for words to actually capture in some coherent way. So very happy to hear the support. I'm very glad to sort of the sunrise at such a point and there's so much love and faith that pointers that rationality cannot grasp are being met in the heart. So beautiful. So I'm very depth by this as well.

So also just yeah, it's about... you know, and just have to also come to India maybe next year, beginning of next year. I don't know, probably.

Okay, welcome day. I'll be very happy. I'm sure you know enough now in the Sangha and if you need some help you can always write. I'm sure you don't want to stay in the same house. Thank you, thank you. We're very happy. Thank you, thank you. The meeting so many videos for today. Thank you all so much for being in satsang today. And then I end this question that um, if there is something that I really don't want to do, does that mean I have to do it? No, you don't have to do it unless you're guided by your Satguru in your heart. It is no.

Thank you all so much for being in satsang today. And then I end with this question: that if there is something that I really don't want to do, does that mean I have to do it? No, you don't have to do it unless you're guided by your Satguru in your heart. It is not that kind of a project. Only if this is clear that I didn't accept something should be done.