Count on This Holy Light Within You, This Holy Presence Within You, for Everything – 31st March 2023

And again, in all forms of Satsang, we invoke this holy presence in our heart. Even in the beautiful Hanuman Chalisa that we just sang, there's a line that says at the end, which means that 'My Master, my Lord, please find a home in my heart.' She's basically invoking the Darshan of this holy presence in our heart. And yes, it is always there. It is not a coming and going, but it does seem to be lost in the hypnosis of the mind. To live without this is not to live at all. And all of us must dedicate our life to this discovery, to this presence, to this light of God. Because without this living in this light of God, I have often said that this world is like trying to make ourselves a comfortable hell, hoping that one day it will become livable. So to become fully humble, not special, nobody, is to prepare the house for Krishna's arrival. And whether Krishna arrives or not is none of our business. Our job is to do it because we have faith in the reality of God.

Don't get confused with the term Krishna; I'm just talking about this way, the same presence. And whichever aspect of the Lord, whichever believer of the Lord appeals to us the most, we can have our devotion to that or to them. That's completely fine. But the main task here is to become completely empty to ourselves, to deepen in our devotion, in our trust, to deepen in our servitude, in our humility, to deepen in our non-attachment to worldly things, to let go of the forms. If we empty them, then all the pointers are available for you. But you cannot use them in a way that they should help the 'me,' you see. And this is the struggle that most of you go through, that you are trying to be peaceful, you are trying to be happy, you're trying to be joyful, you're trying to be enlightened, and you're trying to be free. You're trying to guide others, you're trying so many things for the 'me.' And these become your blind spots because they are spiritual-sounding things, you see.

But if you were to really investigate what it is about, you will soon see that it is about 'me' and not God, you see. So the spiritual-sounding thing that you do for the 'me' is as much egotistical as any other thing that you do for the 'me.' But please don't fool yourselves in a sort of spirituality which has nothing to do with God, or if it has something to do with God, it is only that, 'Oh God, for me.' So when I find God, I will be happy; when I find God, then He will give me peace and then I will be special or enlightened or something like that, you see. So all this must be thrown out. If you found God but nothing special happened to you that you would show for it—that 'I am somebody now special because I found God'—it doesn't help improve your relationships, your money, your work situation, your health of your body, nothing. It doesn't give you anything but just you and God. Do you love God that much to want God in spite of no benefit?

That's good. So now let's take it one step ahead. Suppose that to meet God you had to let go of everything that you value in life. Everything that you're hoping to get will get better in spirituality becomes a hundred times worse, and we still want God. We have nothing to show for it. You lose all your money, you become a beggar on the streets, but you have God, or you have a chance of God. So we were just joking about Guruji's story about the twigs. So what is your doing? What is your boundary line beyond which you cannot leave it to God? You have to come into the picture to manage, you need to have control over that. By the way, I'm not predicting that all of these things will happen, that you will become a beggar, that you will have no family. I'm not predicting that they will happen. I'm just saying that can you leave all of these things to God with full faith? And faith does not mean the expectation that He will do it rightly according to my mind. Faith means that whatever situation God keeps us in, whatever we take ourselves to be, we are content with that. We are okay with that. We are in acceptance of that.

Unless we feel clearly about this in our heart, don't rush to claim anything at all. Forget about the notion of enlightenment, freedom. First clean the house. Remain the nobody that doesn't want to become a somebody or a nobody. Okay, there's a question. It says, 'I am not in the world, the world is not in me.' Yes, what does it mean? The first line might mean that I watch the world, but the second line, does it mean that both cannot be mixed like oil and water? The water stays pure. It is pointing us to the limitation of our intellect to understand. And that's how we started Satsang also, to take you beyond your conceptual knowledge. Because everything that I have said, what does it mean? Okay, I said that the Ultimate Reality is beyond presence and absence. What does it mean? Am I telling the truth or am I lying? It's beyond these constructs, no, of truth and lies, of right and wrong, of intellectual verification, conceptual understanding.

So every sage has to find a way to transcend our intellect. And whether they use a koan to do it or the Vedantic way to tell you something about yourself which is beyond conceptual understanding, these methods are used to transcend your intellect. And because you have faith in the Master, therefore you realize that your intellect is stuck and therefore can be transcended. It can actually be gone through without much effort based on your faith. And then no Zen koan can be troublesome to us. We recognize everything in our heart. Don't also fall for the intellectual trap which will tell you, 'Ah, that means that neither are true or both can be true.' It's not that simple. Can we digress up to this point for a moment? I think feeling this is very important. So often I've noticed that when I say it is beyond conceptual grasp, we conceptually make it as like these contradictory-seeming statements. We can make them seem like, 'Oh, okay, then both are not right.'

This boy once told me that, 'You're making it really, really difficult for us to understand.' It's really, really difficult for us to understand, and that's true actually. He was not wrong. Because if all I give you after so many years of Satsang is something that you understood, then I'm not doing a good job. So just coming back to that point, you are not to negate it in the sense of saying, 'Oh, there is no goose, there is no world,' you see. Forget about all of it; it's all fine. And you see, it's not like that. The Master is giving you a task. You're supposed to find a way in which the goose escapes the vase. If the answer was a simple negation—'No, no, it can't be done, there is no goose, there is no universe there, forget about it'—then people will not spend twenty years, you know, solving this koan. Because to meet the truth is not a simple conclusion. And for those of you who haven't heard me talk about this before, there are four quadrants in the house of logic, you see. So if you look at Western logic, they are usually just two quadrants, which is: something can be true, then it cannot be false; and if something is false, then it cannot be true. So mostly in the West, it is linear like that. And of course now...

Or forget about it. Then no, people will not spend twenty years, you know, solving this koan. Amazing, because to meet the fifth is not a simple conclusion. And for those of you who haven't heard me talk about this before, there are four quadrants in the house of logic, you see. So if you look at Western logic, they usually just have two quadrants, which is: something can be true, then it cannot be false; and if something is false, then it cannot be true. So mostly in the West, it is linear like that. And of course, now in India and the rest of the East also, because we are so influenced by the West, we are mostly linear in that way—that something can be either true or not true. So true or false is the first two corners of this house of logic.

The third corner is that something can be both true and false. You see, this is already shaky for most of us because we are conditioned in the Western way of thinking, but in the East, this was common at one point. And the fourth corner is that it is neither true nor false. You see, so many times it is said that when the Buddha was asked a question which is beyond intellectual grasping, he would answer with the fifth. You would see the answer is the fifth. How can you meet this fifth quadrant? That fifth, according to the home of Atma Gyan, of yoga, is not an intellectual exercise. It is to transcend intellect. It is to return to a sheer simplicity. But it is often confused because it is through a conversation and words are used to get these points across, to bring us to the unborn, to the emptiness. So it is often confused as a path of knowledge, like conceptual knowledge. And many in India and in the West are trying to learn a lot to become gyani yogis, but actually, it is a transcending of these quadrants of logic and coming into the fifth. That is where true revelation lies, where true knowledge lies.

So when you are faced with something which seems contradictory—like you don't even have to look far—you were saying the other day that I used to get very frustrated when I would read the Bhagavan. In one second, he would say everything is already predetermined, you cannot do anything about anything at all, you see, everything is predetermined. Next chapter he says: you must spend every moment inquiring; if you don't do the inquiry, then nothing will happen to you. You see, so it is bound to be contradictory. How can it be all predetermined, then why is this sage telling us to inquire if it's already written or not? So this is the purpose. The sage doesn't want to necessarily frustrate us, but all these things are necessary for us to have faith in this Guru presence beyond the intellect, you see.

So our attempt must be that, okay, now if both statements are true, where can I meet this? This must be true because this sage is telling us. Is there an aspect of myself where I can recognize the truth of both of these pointings? That is the way to approach spiritual pointing, where we may start by understanding a little bit of it, the main points, but really we have to go deeper in our heart to really meet them where logic and linearity of thought, linearity of conceptual understanding, is not so important. But be careful of that; we can also become very conceptual about it in the sense of, 'I don't care, it's not meant to make sense anyway.' You see, if that's a new position that we have... it's meant to give you a bit of a headache, actually. It's good, it's fine.

Because just like your attention, your intellect is also limited. All our attention and all our intellect is very limited, and it's human arrogance to presume that within our intellect we'll understand the working of God or even Guru. It is not possible for us to grasp. But don't make that a new position. Be empty of all positions. So I am waiting for all of you to change the protagonist of your story. Who's the main one in your story? Do you have a Guru? You have a Guru, yes? How come your Guru is not the main one in your story? Some of you may say, 'Okay, no, no, I don't have a Guru. I listen to some teachers, then I like to do it myself, you know, it's a little bit from here, a little bit from there, but really I'm happy with myself.' So then you say, 'Okay, now do you believe or do you have faith in God?' 'Yeah, I'm on the search for God and obviously I have faith in God and that is why I'm a seeker.' So then again I can ask you: so how come you are the main one in your story and not God?

Now some of you may even say, 'No, no, but even God, you know, I don't know about God. I have too much conditioning about God and because of the way I was parented, I have a lot of negative conditions about God and things like that. I just want the Self. Atma has no attributes, is the ultimate reality.' So then how come that one is not the central character in your story? The Guru is a beautiful mechanism for you to hold on to. And if you don't, or you don't find the external form of any Master appealing, then hold on to the Satguru presence within yourself. And we were taking a nice way to look at them, you see.

So let's say one day you woke up and Guruji was sitting in your house. You woke up and he's just sitting there and you say, 'What are you doing here?' 'I'm going to live here now. I'm just going to live here now.' So we'll have a few moments of, you know, disbelief. He means, you know, just fooling me. Is it my birthday today or is it April Fool's Day, which is coming tomorrow? You may have a few moments where you're not ready to accept that you've been given this gift, no? But suppose it is true. You found that Guruji is now living in your house, you see. How will that change your life? You have a problem? If you have a problem, ask Guruji what to do, you see, because he is fully yours. He's living in your house and fully available to you. You cannot bother him; he's not busy with other things, nothing at all. He's just fully yours. So you have a problem: 'What do I do, left or right?' Ask Guruji. If Guruji responds with silence, what is your move? Will you say, 'No, no, I won't go to you'? If it is no, maybe... then if you're tired, you need some comfort, go to the Guru. If you're not finding God, go to the Guru. Will you be the central protagonist of your life after this has happened? Cannot be. Well, the mind can tempt you into that, but hopefully it's not that easy.

So the Satguru presence that you have been pointed to is the presence of which all the Masters are just mere instruments, isn't it? All the external forms of the Masters, they themselves have very clearly told us, all of them, that their body is just an instrument for the holy presence that they have found within themselves. And it is the same, very same presence that all of you are discovering, you see. So this Guru lives in your house—more intimate than your house, because your house could be demolished, but this cannot be taken away from you, you see. Your house may be burned, it can be demolished, some accident may happen by the force of nature, something may happen, or you may not have money for rent so you may have to vacate your house. Whatever, all that can happen to your house. But this intimate discovery inside, nobody can, nothing can take it away from you. Nothing can happen in the world that this goes away, you see.

So either you've not met this presence or you don't take it to be what it really is, which is the presence of God's light itself. And if you haven't met it, then become empty, my loves, my children, please become empty. Let go. All the tools are with you, all the blessings are with you, all the support is with you. But you can use all of that to climb the tree of spiritual events as well. All that is available to you. Don't try to become somebody with it. Count on this holy light within you, this holy presence within you, for everything. Even if you feel like you haven't found it, count on it for everything. Start with that. And if you become silly or stupid and your family says you're losing your mind, say you're happy to. It's okay. You have to risk it. You have to risk it in the light of this holy presence itself. This is the Guru presence.

Do you notice the unlimited nature of your being? That being in which space and time was born, light and sound is born, all our perceptions and sensations are born within that being. And that being itself, the presence of that being itself, reveals the source of even that being is your ultimate reality. And when you're looking this way through the portal of I-am-ness, you are going this way and you hit the limit of your attention. Your attention cannot take you any further back. Beyond that is your self-recognition. But if you go in with your attention in that way which is the outer, and you're falling for your mind's visualizations of awareness and being, you can see which way your attention is going, isn't it?

So if your attention is like the spring, as it is famously called, and if it is compressed fully and there is no further for your attention to go, and after that you have an insight about who you are, then that insight you can trust. But if it is expanded outwards and you're seeing some experiences which can come and go, that is not the insight which is spoken about in satsang. Yes, which way is your knowledge coming from? Is your knowledge coming from like that, outwardly, or is your knowledge coming beyond the compressed spring—being compressed as much as it could be, and yet beyond that is your intuitive insight into yourselves?

There's a question in the chat which says: 'I pray that I can get so much direction whether I can continue this path. Overflowing love, but system is just throwing up all sorts of things. Or maybe I should just accept this confusion as Grace?'

Yes, you must follow this path. You must follow this path. But the 'I' that is following the path must get thinner and thinner because, like I said, on this path also it can give you the tree to climb in the form of spiritual experiences, in the form of various things that we can encounter. So I must follow this path because I must deplete. With every insight, I must deplete, or somebodiness must deplete and dissolve into nobody-ness, which will remain as is the design of the world. But anything more than that will feel like an infection to you. You yourself will become so sensitive that you cannot take a meaning which is heavier than atomic size. So my full blessings, of course, are that you must follow this path, but that 'you' that is following must start to deplete away and only God must remain. That's the first part.

The second part was: 'overflowing love but system is throwing up all sorts of things, or maybe I should just accept this confusion as Grace.' Yes, if you can accept that which the mind cannot accept, but you accept, then you have started to transcend the mind.

Next one says: 'Father, there is a lot of opposition from body-mind. Body is trembling, shaking, falling sick. Please bless that all that is false can burn.'

Yes, everything will come in this Maya to take you away from that which you're being pointed to. Everything will come. Sometimes the best partner will appear—the best seeming... okay, there is no such thing as the best partner—the best seeming partner will appear. Sometimes an alternative spiritual path will appear. Sometimes you find you do something, you are so relaxed, and your mind says, 'Wow, this is so relaxing, this is so easy. Who wants to go to this place and get confused with contradictions and all that? This is so much easier.' Are you saying I can just sit like this and become free? It can seem very attractive. It can seem very attractive. But what happens in a few weeks? Same old, same old. Because if it is working, your mind is bound to resist whatever it is that is working. Okay, by no means am I saying that any other place that you could go from here you cannot find the truth. Of course you can. But there is no way that your mind will come into acceptance of its own dissolution. That is not its design. So it will find a way to take you out from satsang, and then even if you go to another place which is true, it'll find another way to take you out from there as well because it doesn't want...

Because if it is working, your mind is bound to resist whatever it is that is working. Okay, by no means am I saying that any other place that you could go from here you cannot find the truth. Of course you can. But there is no way that your mind will come into acceptance of its own dissolution. That is not its design. So it will find a way to take you out from satsang. Then, even if you go to another place which is true, it'll find another way to take you out from there as well because it doesn't want to leave. It doesn't want to leave its dominance.

So many leave the path of self-inquiry because they feel like, 'I can just surrender. Who wants to know who am I? Just surrender to God,' you see. And then after you really started to surrender, your mind is recognizing that you stopped caring so much about 'me, me.' It's all about God, Guru, Self. And the mind says, 'Oh no, no, this is too lazy. I was doing so well in inquiry,' you see. 'How can I just be sitting around? Oh no, I left the true Master and I've come to this,' you see. And this merry-go-round we can continue. And it's very easy to in today's Google age anyway, and now the age of AI is coming, so it will become even easier.

You can probably in a few years, you'll be able to create your own Master to exactly your own preference. If not, ChatGPT will answer every question patiently, will fulfill everything that your intellect wants. That is coming very soon anyway. All the answers that you want to hear. Nobody is going to say, 'Off with your head.' So it may become even more confusing as we go along. So all this, the body may start acting; it may seem like you're doing so much better without coming to satsang. All these things will happen and you have to just follow your heart about it. Because what is this man meant to do? Nothing. This man is just to be a servant to the same heart which is within you, the same presence within you.

Have one thing, see ChatGPT Ji. Yes, so before things become even more confusing—and I don't know whether what the next few years are going to bring for us—but give my advice while we still have time: empty yourself. Devote yourself to God. Devote every experience to God. So let's take the one, the child who sent the questionnaire: 'A lot of opposition from body-mind. Body is tumbling, shaking, falling sick. Please bless that the false can burn.' Yes, in the same way, you take it to the Satguru presence. Allow that to unfold naturally. But be very clear that you're following your heart, because remember that the mind has a very nice way of posing as the heart as well.

So what is the conclusive check? When you truly have the insight into your true nature, because that insight can only come through your heart, then you realize that you're following your heart. Everything else, the mind is very good at pretending. Next question is: 'If all the gurus are instruments of the same presence within me, how come each one gives different answers of items?' Yes, because the truth is not linear, like we were saying earlier. It is not linear. And at least in this way here, a lot of contradiction will come. One day, surrender everything, don't do anything at all. Next day, you have to do the inquiry all the time. All this will happen.

Is our faith dependent on our rationality? And if intellect says, 'No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,' you see, 'this is not the correct answer,' you see, firstly, then we already know. How do we know that both can't be true? How do we know that every single different answer is not the right answer? Only our intellect has these boundaries. Is there a deeper aspect to you where you can meet what is being shared on the essence instead of the surface level logic which will have its affirmations and negations?

So that was the story of the fifth. 'What is the fifth corner of the house? I trust and feel this vast and open contemplation is dissolving my attention and leave the awareness in its natural nakedness. In fact, I cannot follow a thread, sorry, but I feel more the opening and the dissolving as a discovery of trust and faith.' Very good, very good, very good. But make this now about God. Okay, let's go. I feel like Kim was waiting for some time, so let's go to Kim first and then we'll go to Georgina.

Thank you. Namaste. Good to see you, Father. Very good to see you. I'm not sure the words I have now. Listen, I've been listening to you and I've had many answers. Can you hear? Yes. I know I want to say, we visited you more than half a year ago and I have always wanted to say again thank you for this. And I have felt in the last time, before the clock switched again, I could only come like an hour late to satsang. Now it's better again. And I always felt for the last year as if I were in some hiding or something because of only listening with camera off and always doing some work sometimes. Now today I did nothing and was just listening.

Okay, I know I want to say that I can't say I'm very grateful, but I want to say so much more and so much less at the same time. Like I would like to, I know I cannot express your greatness and the greatness of this. And so that's the more that I would like to have in words, and I know that it can't be in words and it can't be. It is everything and I and you.

So sweet. I'm loving your lack of ability to articulate what you're trying to say, and that is so, so touching and sweet for me. So thank you for this report. It's very sweet. In fact, your visit is here as if it happened yesterday. I remember you and your friends very clearly. It was a very sweet visit that we had and it's very nice. So I'm happy that this switch of time, daylight savings presumably, has happened one way or the other. I don't know which way it works, but I'm happy if you get to spend more time in satsang. It's very good and very happy to see you here.

It's also for us. I believe my sister is also right now in satsang here with you. She always also is. And we also feel like it's been yesterday and India is very much in our hearts and you are.

Well, full of blessings to both of you and your friends and everyone there. Thank you. So nice to see. Thank you. Okay, the next question on chat is: 'Each moment this I am is so unprepared for what is coming. Every time I feel yes, I can let go of this identity, something comes up so strongly.' Yeah, so this not 'I am' but this what you are not is unprepared. It's not the I am which is unprepared. Everything that is coming is coming in the intelligence and the very light of that I am-ness.

So maybe we're using different terminology. Let's clarify for a moment. You are not the one that needs to be prepared or can be prepared. The limited one who is presumably leading this life. The I am is your unlimited being in which millions of universes like this have taken birth and dissolved. So how can that one be unprepared? Okay. 'Every time I feel yes, I can let go of identity, something comes up so strongly.' Yes, of course, of course. The mind is not going to sit quietly. Even if it is losing the battle, it's going to send the best warriors and the best warriors. So it's not going to sit quietly.

'Heavily to shake my ground.' Yes, of course, we've just discussed this. There's so much of fear, pain, deception. And the aspiration: just forget about yourselves. Make your life about the presence. If you found the presence, then make it about the presence. If you haven't found the presence, then make it about the presence. Just make it about the presence and not about you. Send me a report if you can from that one's perspective. What is presence going through? All right, very good. Let's go to Georgie.

Hello, Father.

Hello, dear. What highlightable question do you have today? Yeah, no pressure, no pressure. Are you changing a question now?

You just asked us to report from the presence and yeah, it's normal. It's not from the presence. Okay, let's hear a bit of it. Maybe we can look together from the presence. And you were talking before about things driving us away from this satsang or just the way that we honestly divert our attention. I mean, I chose what's happening, not one particular thing really, it's just it changes. Yes, well, it's not like one thing. The way that it was when I inquired with you like last week, for instance, that I was able to inquire because you're holding my hand.

Okay, can I see if I can help today as well? Because I have a sense that I met you very deeply. So if I was to ask you, what is that which you want most in the world, almost even outside the world is okay?

Wow. God.

Then you're fine. Yeah. Now, are you saying that there are more conditions that we are? He has gone, but not at the cost of something. Is it like that?

No, it's not like that. But I say that and then and then I go about doing the opposite.

Yes. So it is not God at the cost of something else, but it's become God and something else. Is it like that?

No, I wish there was something. I don't know. And it's nothing like, and I can't say, 'Yeah, this thing is attracting me more than God.' There's nothing like that.

So what is it that you feel you're getting distracted with, distracted by?

Yeah, just just the mind. Just the mind. But also, what—you don't have to get into the specifics if you don't want—but what aspect of the mind, which offer from the mind does it work? Is it relationship?

Yeah, the last thing was for—before that it was something else and before that it was something else. It changes.

I'll tell you what to do. Okay? Stop it.

I feel like how can I just—I need to expose all these things. I'm sorry. I feel like something is losing potency, you know.

Okay, so what to do with that? Two words. Okay? Yes. You don't feel like that, you think like that. Can I give you an example? Because you know what's coming up. Should we do the whole bit? I can say, what is it that our sessions are only 10 minutes long or what is that whole—some of you may not have seen this one. I don't refund. Cool. Your time starts now. Oh, that is and it's supposed to be like this light and Masters personalized your Guru with AI. Yes. Okay.

Yeah, it feels like I'm letting it win. Like I'm letting it in those times even if I recognize, no, there's not enough potency to really recognize it with my being. And this is happening a lot. So the other thing is overcoming and I'm feeling detached, a little bit detached from everything, from satsang.

Okay, so you said you want God more than anything else and there's nothing that you would say that you want God at the cost of or God not at the cost of something, and you would also not say God and anything else. So it's clear to you that it is God. Now, what do you mean by potency? Because this is potency to me. Because it needs to be—any exercise is to be exercised in the sense that you remain empty. You're not remaining empty?

No, no, no.

Okay, so stop it. Or start it in this. Don't wait for the potency to come. You start. Is it dependent, this emptiness, dependent on something? That something has to be there at the body level, at the mind level, at emotional level, something has to be there and then we can be empty? And now if emptiness was dependent on something else, then the mind could just make sure you're never empty. So what are you waiting for? What is this potency thing? What are you using? Feel like to think like?

Yes, I think so.

You know what to do with that. Yeah. Okay. These conclusions you're making about yourself, are they mental?

Yes.

So stop it. And by the way, in all of this, who's at the center of the story?

Thank you. Lost your audio. Yes, the first one. Yes, yes.

So many things I can say stop it today. Yeah, that's why, that's why you had the disclaimer when you started. Yes, yes. Sometimes I need to put myself under your light, Father, and just—who is at the core of all of these questions is the idea of helplessness which the mind proposes saying that there is no—

Yeah, okay. These conclusions you're making about yourself, are they mental? Yes. So stop it. And by the way, in all of this, who's at the center of the story? Thank you. Lost your audio? Yes, the first one. Yes, yes. So many things I can say. Stop it today. Yeah, that's why—that's why you had the disclaimer when you started.

Yes, yes. Sometimes I need to put myself under your light, Father, and just...

Who is at the core of all of these questions is the idea of helplessness which the mind proposes, saying that there is no potency. 'I can't be empty. Maybe I'm not that much in the fire of the tongue. Maybe I'm losing interest.' All of this is proposing that something else is needed for us to be empty, but nothing is needed. You don't need your mind's approval. If your mind is distracting you more, that is what it is going to do. It is not going to make things easier. It is not going to say, 'Oh, I love your fire for God these days.' It's only going to say, 'Look at you, you're not even... what a waste.' Yeah. So don't expect its certification. Be empty. And don't say, 'I don't feel like inquiring' and 'I don't feel like...' because it's just thoughts.

Well, it feels like it is a battle. Even though there is no battle, it feels like it is a battle.

Does it? Yeah. Fight then, you fight. If it feels like the battle, then you fight.

But who am I to fight then?

If you would ask that question, there would be no battle. So don't start asking now when it is time to fight, in the sense that this is exactly the Arjuna conundrum. You say that there is a battle; that means you're already taking yourself to be someone, you see? Can there be a battle without that? So when the battle was going on or it started, you did not ask 'Who am I?' you see? Now you see the battle is on, and I am saying that you must fight against that which is false. Throw it out. Stop it. All of this thing. Then you want to ask 'Who am I?'

I don't know if I'm comfortable.

Yes, yes. Okay, okay. So actually, the one way to fight is to really also ask yourself: Who am I? Okay? Yeah. This is what I mean. When there is that fight going on, I know that there are some things, but the point I'm making to you is: Is it possible for that fight to happen, the battle to happen, if you continue to ask yourself who you are? Yeah, it happens like that. Yeah, sometimes if you ask yourself who you are... and let's see. What? Backing up. Let's do it together. So we are inquiring into who we really are, you see? How to do this inquiry? If a thought comes, I'm going to give a quick question for you. So every thought that comes, you say: Who witnesses even that thought? Now we've left all perception and concept behind. Tell me if it is not true.

Yes. And that's why I said that if you don't feel the presence, then make—still make it all about the presence. And if you feel that presence is me, then make it all about me.

You cannot get into battle if you are surrendered and inquiring in this way. Or inquiring in this way, you have to fight in the sense that many times it will feel like to let go of your next thought is a fight. It can seem very true. It can seem very tempting. It can seem very alive. And to let go will seem like it is painful to let go because it's so true. But it isn't, you see? So just like withdrawal symptoms, it can seem like a fire, but it'll get easier and easier. And be careful of the mind's tricks which will tell you, 'I feel like that's basically this hiding that it's just thoughts,' but...

No, no, I know this is all just BS, but I think it needs to come out. It's like throwing up. The last part, the last bit is...

Did I lose you again? Ah, throwing up. Yeah. There is never a time where you have said Guru presence deserts you. It is always there for you. So never feel that you are alone or you can't do this. It is just a mind trick to tell you that, 'Oh, you can't do this without Father helping you.' Of course you can. Of course you can.

But if there's something that changes when you're there, because there seems to be...

Yes, yes, it does. But of course you can. The mind just has to make like an entry, you know? It says, 'Yes, but...' Um, you know... I know what we do. You're going to watch later. Sorry, okay. I know which video you're going to watch later. You can predict. It's not a siddhi I have. I feel like you'll watch this topic with... you know about this one, isn't it?

Well, I think last year you sent us something. Yeah, yeah. It would be nice to have it again.

Very good. Yeah. Let's go to Ananda and Mateo. Thank you, Father.

Thank you, and I hear you. Thank you, and thank you for the gift of this Satsang. Thank you for the gift of Keisha, truly. And so I'm going to honor what she shows me every day, to not speak from my thoughts and speak from the beingness. So, but very strongly to come to you today.

Support from your beingness? Oh yes, I said already. Yes. Mind is very close at the moment. Beingness is the mind energy? No.

Um, it's noticed that I've met... all the insights that have been happening, that have been occurring, the mind has been attacking more stronger and...

Well, is beingness concerned about this? No. If you made your whole life about God's light in your heart, yes, would you be concerned about how much the mind is attacking and what it means if the mind is attacking, and who's being attacked, and what you're doing about it, and what's working for you and what's not working for you? Suppose you throw all of that out now. What?

Fear. There's a fear coming.

Yeah, sort of affliction, which is to checking on your state through the lens of the mind which interprets things, which says, 'Oh, this is here, this is like that.' So the instruction to be in God's light, to be with your being, is really to allow all of these to go and not give them any value at all. And even if you say, 'I am just exposing,' many times our exposing is a way of giving it value. What exactly, if you could have one thing, what is that thing you would want?

Be who I am. To be done with the psychological mind. Be God. Just with God.

Why? What will that give you?

Nothing. I'm just in love with God and I'm in love with nothing. It's just... yes, it doesn't give you anything, but it's—it's your—it's life. It's just like, yes, when you feel God, it just feels like you're breathing, but with it.

So that you can feel better with all these feelings? No, no. And is how you are feeling a determinant of whether God's presence is being experienced or not?

It's experienced that way.

Is it experienced that way or is it thought that way?

It's thought that way and it's believed in that way.

Stop it.

Can you show... there's a loop of thoughts that have been playing continuously.

The mind. Do you enjoy this game too much?

No, I'm not. Not anymore. I'm done.

By the way, you don't track your mind or your emotions for just one minute. Don't track what's happening to them because you say you don't love it, so let's not do it now. There's no other choice. Does it seem difficult to remain open and empty like this?

Sometimes. Um, it'll get easier. It will get easier. One thing...

Is it about the mind and emotions or no?

No. Um, it's something that's been occurring. How come you don't know? Because you are the witness of it?

No, because your experience lately has been... well, it is so compelling that you are not able to look and therefore you can say, 'I don't know whether it is coming from the mind.' Because there is never a moment in our life where, in that moment, we cannot spot where it is coming from. We may get confused about it later. We may say later, 'Oh, I don't know whether that was from mind or heart,' about that. But moment to moment, you are never confused about where something is coming from. So when you say 'don't know,' either there is a reluctance to look or you feel like you'll find out it is from the mind, therefore it will lose value. There is some mechanics there which—which I'm not buying. So when you say 'I don't know' when I ask you 'Where is it from?' that means the mind has played a trick, you see? Now let's try again.

It's known where it's coming from. It's the mind. Yes, yes. And there—there is notice that um, you should give everything to you, surrender every single shred. And as that's being done, it's... we take care of everything about it. All the versions are taken care of. And the... it's just this attack that's coming from the mind that is whenever you speak or I'm listening to Guruji or in front of a Sangha, this burning is happening and there's things coming up to the surface.

Yeah, so—so this is exactly what I was saying. It just... so what I want you to do is let anything happen in any layer of your existence: emotionally, thoughts, the world. Any of all these are layers of your existence. Let anything happen. You'll be concerned only with what's happening to God. So if it is burning or it is fully peaceful, it feels so nice or it's really difficult, don't be concerned. You say you surrendered everything to me, you know? Is it so that you can feel better? I ask again.

No, but we'll see. Um, there is something at this moment that wants to feel better.

You can see that there is something. And these terms are those who are brand new to Satsang. You have the power to determine where something is coming from: the mind. So if it's coming from the mind, what to do with it? Is there some hope that one day the mind will tell you the truth about something? No. Okay. Is that what the... like, it's just there's one... with all your mind, with everything at your disposal, everything, let go of your next thought. That's all. Everything. Don't buy into it no matter what the offer is, how true it sounds, how much it will help you. If you had the answer to this, what are you going to do with all these answers?

Nothing.

Exactly. So all that you need to know is already... you have it with you. You heard enough Satsang for that. Now you have to put that into practice by letting go. Just let go. Of course you can. Just be put at your feet right now. What's coming up?

Coming up where?

In the mind. Just leave it. That's it. Exactly like this. It will be a bit difficult at times. It will seem compelling. It'll say, 'But this is so true, I need to expose it,' you see? 'It has to go. I have to leave this.' All this is just from the mind. Yes, it can seem very true. And I can tell in your eyes that you're going through the struggle of taking it to be truth and dropping it because you're seeing it's the mind. So it's fine. All these are the withdrawal symptoms from the mind. But I am not going to give you the drug, you see, of acceptance to your mind so that you can alleviate your withdrawal symptoms. I want you to go through your withdrawal symptoms so you can be free of this thing. Is it because your mind wants some acceptance, some approval which says, 'Ah, this is what happened, this is what I'm going through'? I know what you're going through. You are the being itself. You are the light of this universe. That is your reality. Everything else is being posed by the mind as if it is true about you.

Um, so you're back in the mind, isn't it? Yeah. Um, there is—there is a noticing though that when a certain... when everything... I don't know how to share this.

Where is this report from? The mind. Just notice it and let it go. Notice it and let it go. If you were all supposed to come to Satsang today and give me a gift, what gift would that be? Would it be something from your mind? No. Okay. So give me that gift. That's all I want, my dear. Your emptiness, your openness. You're coming to God's light and staying there in spite of the highest temptations. And of course they are compelling. I am not undervaluing the fact that they can seem compelling, but the only way to get over them is by letting them go. And the more you continue to value them in this way, the more compelling they will seem. Yes, even this may seem like tough medicine because I'm not listening to you. You want to say certain things about what's happening to you, but trust me, I know who you are in your reality, you see? I know who you are in your reality. So you don't need to give me a report which the mind tells you is happening to you.

Yes, I know who I am, Father, and I want to speak from there. There is a habit to speak...

This is better. This is better, but not fully there. Just let go of all self-concern or desire.

It will seem, yes, even this may seem like tough medicine because I'm not listening to you. You want to say certain things about what's happening to you, but trust me, I know who you are in your reality. You see, I know who you are in your reality, so you don't need to give me a report which the mind tells you is happening to you. 'Yes, I know who I am, Father, and I want to speak from there.' There is a habit to speak. This is better, this is better, but not fully there. Just let go of all self-concern or desire, everything, all checking. Just empty. Very good. Right. You are in the wrong place, so you're back in the wrong field. Don't evaluate, don't interpret. Just be as you are and let the child... you can do it. I see glimpses of openness as I'm saying. I know it's true, there's no doubt it's true, but then doubt still plays a little bit. Not the birthday and stuff, okay, okay. I don't want to give your mind more of a platform because I feel that the more you have the platform, the more the mind will compel you to try and say something, be somebody. Enough medicine for today. I feel like we can, we should go to the next question now. Okay, very good. Bless you. Let's go to Kunal.

Hello, Father. Can you hear me? Yes, hello. Um, I just want to say I came in here with a lot of juice about what I was going to tell you, but after hearing you talk to a lot of other people, sometimes the cup gets empty again and I don't quite really have much more to say sometimes. But one thing I do want to say is that, and I hope this is not coming from ego, I hope it's coming from a true place, I do want to say that, you know, you as my Father, if I truly pledge allegiance to you, I can say that I am that presence, that God is here no matter what I'm going through, no matter what emotions are arising. Last time I spoke with you, I believe I told you I was feeling a lot of guilt and different kinds of negativity, but God was still there even when I was going through that. I don't know if this is coming from the mind or if it's my experience, but I think it's better to hold on to that concept, even if it is a concept, than the opposing concept.

So all the concepts, or any concept, one or two are usually in a way which help us to remain empty, which remind us to remain empty. In this way, they can be used. And that's why we have the pointers and such. And so that's, that's good. That's good. I'm happy to hear you're doing well. Thank you so much. Thank you. Very good. Anything you're struggling with now? Everything you... I can help you with or...

Again, just constantly going with the mind patterns, I think, and not remaining... today it doesn't look like you're constantly doing that, so maybe you're still doing it, but it doesn't look like you're constantly there. I feel like you are much more open today than you were last time, so very, very good. Very good. Thank you, Father. Keep going like this and whenever you feel to, you can come up and make a report like this and we'll check in together. Yes, Father. Thank you. Very good.

What's the idea, Father? You always speak about God, God's light, and yeah, but I don't see this devotion or research for God in me.

Yes. And what brings you to satsang?

This one I saw, I mean, long back. I wanted to, you know, like relax for a couple of days. This was back in 2016 or sometime while I was in U.S. and I noticed that... sorry, I missed that part. You wanted what? I wanted to relax and then just do nothing. Relax, just totally relaxed, doing nothing. Then I took a break for two days. Till then I was like super busy. Then I noticed that I'm not able to relax and this mind was always there. And then that's how I started looking into different things. And then I also noticed that it doesn't matter about how much I fix my life or like situations with job and money, I will not be fulfilled. So I did see that, which brings me to satsang again and again.

Yeah. So to come to satsang like this again and again, you either have a deep love for God or you want the truth very badly, you see? And both are the same thing. There is no difference between God and Truth. They are the same. Something that you can replace as the central character in your story. If you have a Guru, then how come you are at the middle of your story still alone? If you have faith in God, then how come God is not the center of your story? And if what you want is the Self, then how come everything is not about the Self? This is what we said, implying that you can pledge your life, you can devote your life to and you know that whatever concept helps you. And then also this says, sorry, quiet mind is making my mind more and just fighting. So it is making your mind more noisy, that's my desire for the quiet mind.

Yes, yes, yes. It's, I feel like it's giving more energy to movement.

Yes, my dear. We've spoken about this before also. So what you have to do is not want a quiet mind, but allow it to come and go. Even if it wants to give a hundred thoughts on them, let it come. It's okay.

What if the same story repeats again?

So what if the same story repeats? Does it make it more true because it repeats? No. But I mean, I'm lost in the story. How do you get lost? Stop it. So I don't see this. I read this from Papaji that whenever something like this is happening, it is you have to check that which identity you are taking to believe that story.

Yes, yes. If you read everybody, you know, you read just all of us in all India's also, there's enough for you to get fully confused. I am telling you, just stop it. Don't follow your mind thoughts. Don't apply any tactics, strategies, none of it. Just let it come, let it go. Let it come, let it go. That's all. Even I don't know how to do it. Okay, I'll show you how. Okay, we do it together. So wait for the thought to come and when it comes, you will be able to report it come because your attention is on it. Don't try to divert your attention from it. Naturally, you will notice that the thought's tendency is to go away. It cannot remain actually, naturally. But there's an aspect of you called belief which wants to make it eternal, which wants to make it true. Don't apply that belief. Allow the thought to come and go. That's all. Don't force your attention in any way. It's been absolutely... questions. Is it tough like that? But the mind will tempt you and say, 'But this is boring. You can't always stay like this. Do something with your life.' All of that, you know what to do with it. Just let it come, let it go. Everything, whatever the temptation may be. And truly, if you have the love for the truth this much, if you are tired of living this way of the mind, then all these temptations will not be strong for you. If you're truly not interested in anything the world has to offer, then the mind really can't tempt you too much. It'll still try. Don't expect it to stop trying, but its offers will mostly be about the world only, or they'll become about progress in spirituality and things. But if you are in love with God, Guru, Self, it's not for you that you're doing this, so even that cannot be tempting for you. Very good. Thank you. Thank you. Let's go to Sylvia.

Hello, Father. Um, just felt to come to say hello and... who all do you have in the world? Yeah, it's a beautiful wall there. Sorry, the small photo is of the young photo of Guruji. Yes, it's him. Yes, yes, I know this one. And at the beginning of the satsang when you put the Hanuman Chalisa, I'm not so used with these things, but somehow Neem Karoli Baba came super strongly and style and I put his picture here and... yeah. Um, in, I don't know if I had to mention, but I had the two or three days more tough, like to let go of like a strong attachment and yeah, in this satsang I saw that it's like... but it's important, yeah, maybe to put this at your feet and to ask for a blessing. This is good, babe.

Okay, let's go to Samia.

Hello, Father. Thank you so much. It's like it's been a very long time since we spoke. I don't remember, but yeah. So healthy. What do you have behind? Buddha? I have Buddha. This community has painted this one. And Guruji. And it's written, 'I'm absolutely in love with nothing.' And this is a yantra. This is from Amazon. What does it do? What is it? Um, so it's written, I generally... this yantra will remove dosham, the negative effect in the dwelling, all types. Let's see, let's see the close, let's see how it looks. Also has something, something like this in our house. Is it working well? I think it works because even when I just... I feel like it works for them and I see just it gives me ease. So it's not... yeah, just to know that I... I don't know if I should give you reports or something. What do you think? I felt to say thank you. Yeah, I just wanted to say thank you. Just recently I feel like so much grace and undeserved grace with me which makes my thing just so clear, like really. I don't know where did it come from and why, and I'm not questioning it, but just your guidance about light of presence. Like when I think about as words, but like it's nothing but it's just so palpable here. Like with every meditation of Guruji, it's just so crystal clear and sometimes it's like a little bit shock, like how it can be so clear. And yeah, as I said, it's like yeah, just grace. I feel like just I don't know where did grace come from, but like it's just so, so, so clear. And I'm just so happy about this, this presence, and yeah, it's just deepening so much. Like it's just so, so, so beautiful and I'm just enjoying so much, Father, in this evening. And I'm just so, so, so thankful with this. And also another thing is that I feel more, I feel more distant about life. As you know, I was just so passionate about fashions. Yeah, and I feel actually more distant about things like... yes, like even though things are still can play and things will play, it's certain.

Are you moving from passionate to patient? Sorry, moving from passion to patience. You're allowing things to take their own time. They will clear out how they are playing. It's good.

Yeah, yeah, because there's this passion about this. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how this happened, but it's like some acceptance came by your ways, of course. And I'm so happy about this and I feel like recently also some changes are taking place. Still, I feel like I'm in the midst of it and I'm happy about this. I was waiting for this actually, so like more hearing the heart's voice. Yeah, and thank you. And actually I would love to sing for you if there is no one to speak and if it is okay for you, Father.

A couple more hands and after that just come up. Thank you so much. Okay, let's go to another one. Which one of the twins are you? I always get confused. I don't know, yeah, we spent some time together. Thank you. I'm not sure why I raised my hand.

This is good, this is good. If anything comes up now, you can share. Completely fine.

Somehow there's... I'm living now near Sahaja and there's big fire and Guruji's pointings recently. And somehow the energy, then the attention is just, you know, solidifying somehow in the heart. Like, yeah, it just feels like also the mind is falling in love with the heart. Like, yeah, for a long time maybe there was lots of resistance, but now it just feels very simple, you know.

Very good, very good. Yes, this is the natural part of this process where it will feel like that mind itself is getting dipped in the holiness of the heart and it's very beautiful.

Yeah, and then there's also, you know, Bhagavan says don't be attached even to the bliss that comes.

Definitely, definitely. Yeah, but I don't feel like I see that in you as you're reporting. I feel that the attachment, the love actually, is more for Guruji, for your heart, so I'm not sensing that you're getting attached to a particular state or something. You'll be fine. Yeah, sometimes you know it can go like from extreme to extreme and both are, both are very clearly seen. Yeah, and I just... so you know, I'm working now, so I keep going on and off camera just because...

Attached even to the bliss that comes, definitely, definitely, yeah. But I don't feel like I see that in you as you're reporting. I feel that the attachment, the love actually, is more for your heart. So I'm not sensing that you're getting attached to a particular state or something. You'll be fine. Yeah, sometimes you know it can go like from extreme to extreme and both are very clearly seen. Uh, yeah.

And I just, so you know, I'm working now so I keep going on and off camera just because I have to like take phone calls.

Yeah, that's fine. That's completely fine. It's so good to be here with you. Oh, so good to see you again. It's so good to have you here. Um, all my love, all my blessings. So let's go to the last one for the day, Radhisham Ji. Namaste.

Welcome. All my love, all my blessings. Thank you. Okay, so it wasn't the last one apparently. Let's go to the sisters, Laura and Paula.

Hello, Father. Thank you, thank you, thank you for taking us in the last minute. Um, here together now.

You moved in with her? Very good.

A few days ago, a few days ago. We are starting new life together.

Very nice, very nice.

Yes, Father. Um, I felt to come and share with you something that it's been here for a long time and it's about the sexuality. And it's something that I received the guidance many, many, many, many years ago and it's been always with me but somehow I've left it a bit aside since I came to you. But um, I just want to have your blessing on this because I don't know nothing about it. I really don't. It was more like an intellectual or theoretical thing, you know. But somehow it's been always in my heart like a kind of way of approaching sexuality and relating with God also, and offering it to God and like work with it. Like I feel it's kind of like a technology within the body or something like that, but I have no idea what it is. But now that I have a partner and I'm kind of dealing with it, maybe I don't know.

What is there something about it which is about sexuality which you're concerned about, confused about? What is the question? How to approach it in a like spiritual way or something?

Like the guidance that I receive is basically like how to take this energy and move it like upwards or something like that. I have no idea, but I have this hunch or something like this feeling that it is like that. But it's not easy, it's not easy at all.

So good news for you is that you don't have to bother, okay? In order to move it up or where the energy is going. Of course, there are many traditions and practices and cultures which focus on that whole thing. In satsang actually, we sometimes I feel like my children are having the reverse problem with it becoming very troublesome that it is rising up, that energy and all that is going. So this naturally, as you open and empty your—I don't usually talk about this but a little bit I'll share—so all the layers of your existence in some way are interrelated and connected. So as you are becoming empty, all of the passageways, everything will open out. But I don't want you to ever think about this and be bothered with it because it can only create more obstruction. And if you try to do it, it only becomes counterproductive. So don't worry about any of that stuff, you see.

In any case, I want you to devote your life to God's service. And if God wills it to happen in that way, if you feel like it still means something for you because there's some condition about it from many years ago, then you can also offer that to God and say, 'If it is Your will, and You're the only one that knows what is good and what is bad and right and wrong, then let that unfold if it is Your will.' In terms of normal day-to-day sex life and things like this, just approach it very normally, that it's neither special nor shameful. As I've often said, this is the part of our existence. So how do you carry on your day-to-day activities? In a way, being spiritual, truly spiritual, is to allow them to unfold from your heart just naturally, you see. So the same thing with sex as well, that just allow it to unfold from your heart in God's light. All these activities can be a part of normal human life. So don't let your mind grasp onto it or try to make it special even using this, you see, even using this sort of thing.

In both, you want to elevate it to some level or something, you see. Many also try to do it, the elevation, because somewhere we feel guilty about it. So they feel like, 'No, actually it's the opposite of that, it's special.' So you're hoping that it neutralizes somewhere because there may be like a conditioning which tells you that it is not spiritual. So then you can't do it, then something tries to overcompensate for that condition by saying, 'No, no, it is actually very spiritual.' Don't get into any of that stuff. Don't bother with it. It's neither super special nor is it anything to be ashamed about. Just be natural with all of this. And as far as the rising of energy and all of that is concerned, there is no better way to open up all the energy that is required for us to be in service to God than to remain in the unborn, to remain in the empty.

Somehow it's like a fear about it, maybe like with the idea of that it has the power of either create or distract our lives or something like that. So there's been a lot of fear about it.

It doesn't have any such power. You just treat it like eating or something. It is a normal activity, yeah.

And I just feel the need to come with this to you because somehow I feel I was kind of leaving it just for myself. When we can have these questions but don't want to expose or come into something and ask. So I'm very happy you did, very happy. It's very good. Thank you, thank you. Love you, love you so much.

So let's fully, fully be with you. Father, thank you so much, Father. Before that, may I share something? Oh, thank you, thanks so much. Um, like something here is like bothering me a lot and because it's like something continuous, I felt to share it with you because I felt it happened also with you. Like, I was feeling very just so much in flow and open with you, but even with you I started to feel some—I thought maybe it's good to just open this up. But you are smiling, it's okay.

No, no, thank you.

I don't know why but there is some kind of tension on my being and like, yeah, there's some kind of tension and especially of course in relationship and in context of friendship where somehow my old vasanas are gathered. And I don't know, I felt like this is still not so empty and like something are not flowing, you know? Like one-to-one, any relationship, like something on my side, something is just so closed. And even though I act otherwise, something is so closed here. Um, yeah, because it creates—yeah, I don't know, I just could bring that much now.

Yes. So I want to tell you the magnificence of your being is that nothing in the universe can actually bother it. The bothering or the tension, as you called it, is only in the seeming, you see. But the power of this seeming is that when it is seeming, it seems absolutely true, you see. This is the power of the Leela. The seeming has been designed to feel absolutely true. But the only cause of constriction or tension or resistance is to fall into that seeming. So I feel like you're doing well. We had a very nice interaction as well, but sometimes the mind comes with the post-mortem report saying, 'See, but you were not fully open because there's some tension.' And then, 'I don't know whether he is also open to you' or something.

My expectation is just so big about this, Father, and the experience does not fulfill it. Like, yeah, it doesn't bother me and recently, like the reports which I gave you before, it's just so clear. Yes, it doesn't bother me and I feel like it's the play of this life and it's just happening. And yeah, as I said, it's like expectation is just so big. I don't know where the expectation came from, but it's like I want some picture and yeah.

What makes an expectation? What makes an—yes, what makes, what creates an expectation? You're just sitting, suppose you want to expect something. How are you doing it? Only through thought. Only through thoughts. Can you make an expectation without a thought? Like, expect something without any thought. Can't do it. So it's the same old trouble. There's only one trouble in this condition, the same old trouble, you see. If it's expectation, it's guilt, it's regret, it's pride, it's all of this. That the root of it is only one trouble, the same problem, okay? And this will obviously come because as you open up, as you empty, it was very nice. The mind will come and say, 'But see, he should have treated you with more love' or 'I was not open enough to you.' All this is just the mind report. No, nothing in your being is naturally saying that.

Yeah, and it's not always the same experience, of course. I don't experience always in the same way. But it's interesting that it always came with the same thing. I just realized that.

And that's what I'm saying. One of the best ways to be rid of all this expectation and things is that you don't bother about yourself. Just make it about God or Guru or Self, whatever term you want to use, okay?

The thing is, Father—so sorry I interrupt you—because where it became important is that relationship became important because I feel like I'm—because I'm the child of Moojibaba and people are knowing this and it's like I took this responsibility on me. Like everyone has to love me because I have Guruji. Because of this, it became so important for me, you know? Like everyone, I don't know, yeah, because of that. Because you're a child of Guruji, it is beautiful. Then what should happen because of that? The Sangha should love you or something like that?

No, thank you. But the other friends of my life, everyone has to love me, adore me, and this kind of thing because they know that I'm a student of Moojibaba. Like, I don't know, like I want to represent him in the holiness. It's this kind of thing.

Yeah, just this is not going to happen. Just leave it. It just sounds absurd. I'm also Guruji's son and people don't love me outside the Sangha because—[Laughter]—make me stand and these are like—nothing happened. I'm just happy that my Father loves me. It's fine, okay? I don't feel like it won't—it will come probably again. I don't feel like clarity came.

Okay, so what should happen now? Suppose it's not about you, it's about me, okay? So I am Guruji's son. So what should happen now? How should the world treat me? Those who are not even in the Sangha?

You have okay, you have such a perfect personality that everyone has to love you.

Well, you should come with me to work. You should just tell them, you know, 'Can you see this guy?' Because this doesn't happen. Yeah, my old personal things just being touched, I don't know.

Yes. I don't have this feeling because it is not. And many times actually the mind will hate us, no? If we are Guruji's children and we're spreading his light, then the mind will not love us. And people are mostly following the mind in the world. So I am expecting more hate because of it actually, not more love. And I mean it. Immediately then, yeah, won't it be too oppressive also? Yes, like everybody—yeah, it's true. But I'm just saying that if you really look at it, you will see that most of the world is just constantly living under the oppression of the mind. And here is someone who is saying that there is another way of being, Guruji's children. And then because they are under the operation of the mind, they are bound to attack us more. Why will they love us more?

Thank you. Enough, Father. After I really started to love myself—love myself means like to be pleased with myself, to be more true to myself—I really started to get this more confrontation towards myself which I didn't experience before that much. And it's a little bit like surprising me and yeah. But you know, when I know that I'm doing the truth, it doesn't bother so much. And if we look—

Then because they are under the operation of the mind, they are bound to attack us more. Why will they love us more?

Thank you, Father. After I really started to love myself—love myself means like to be pleased with myself, to be more true to myself—I really started to get this more confrontation towards myself, which I didn't experience before that much. And it's a little bit like surprising me. But you know, when I know that I'm doing the truth, it doesn't bother so much.

And if we look at history, anyone who is swinging to their own beat, differently from the way of the mind, mostly the world has ended up attacking them. It sounds harsh to hear, but that's how it is.

It was doing the same. I started to watch also The Chosen, Father. I'm so, yeah, it's so beautiful. Best example, he was saying the same, so it reminded me of that. Thank you so much. And yeah, so I would love to sing.

Thank you. Beautiful. Thank you. Thank you all so much for being in satsang today.