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By Your Refusing To Leave Your True Home, You Cannot Trouble Yourself - 13th January 2023

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Ananta urges seekers to abandon the 'planet of the head'—the realm of ego and conceptual resolution—and return to the 'planet of the heart.' He emphasizes that God’s light is an immediate, unfathomable reality already present within.

You can either live in the planet of the head or the planet of the heart.
The problem can only be transcended and not resolved at the level of its operation.
True God we can never leave, but the god that we want we can never have.

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Transcript

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Ananta

Let me start with the metaphor which I feel like to be helpful to everyone. The idea may be that we are living on Earth or something like that; that may be an idea like that. But actually, you're living in one of two places where you can be. You can either live in the planet of the head or you can be in the planet of the heart. There is no such thing as living on Earth. You can be either involved into the head, which is the bundle of thoughts, which is the ego, which is the resistance, or you can be in the heart, which is the light of the Holy Spirit. So really, this is very important because we spend a lot of time evaluating what we are doing, how well we are doing. Basically, all we need to check is where we are. So where are we right now? Am I living in the planet of the head? And if you are, instantly take a flight back home. It's an instant flight. That's all that's important. That's all that's important because these two worlds you can't reconcile. You can't say, 'One foot I'll keep on one planet and the other foot on another planet.' It's like you can't keep one foot on the moon and keep one foot here in India or Bangalore. It's not possible.

Ananta

So if you're living in the headspace, then right, don't try to fix it over there. When you first get stuck in this, you're living here and then we say, 'Okay, now this thought can be fixed with this. Now this will be fixed with that. Now this I have to understand like this and this I have to do like that.' You see, all of these kind of feelings, you don't have to do. Just come back to... and that is the good news: that it is not your true home. Which is, the planet of the heart is not distant from you and you don't have to travel there. You have traveled out into your head. So by your refusing to leave your true home, you cannot trouble yourself. That is simply what it is.

Ananta

So I wanted to start with this so that in satsang we are not attempting to resolve things in the wrong planet. It's not a homonym; this is a metaphor. There's no real planet like this; I'm just using a metaphor which is helpful. So if you're trying to resolve things in the head with the mind saying, 'Okay, this thought comes, then I must remember God is taking care of everything,' but then when this thought comes, then I inquire into the nature of who I am and I find that I'm not... none of that is needed. It is needed only if you needed to escape from that planet back home. Okay, it is not needed in terms of making evaluations and saying, 'This is good, this is bad, I should do this, I am still stuck, I'm improving, I'm getting the most of the time I'm living either way in the head or heart.' Whatever, all those are in the wrong planet. Now living in the heart, what is the same? What good means?

Ananta

Now the only trouble is that this planet of the head has a lot of tourism agents. Each of them come like thoughts. After the agent will come... what's a better metaphor? So the salespeople of this planet will come and say, 'Come, come! What are you getting in the heart? Only God is there; He's not going anywhere. You come with me because I will offer you something in this world. I'll offer you a better relationship, I will offer you love, I will offer you peace, I will offer you the perfect master, I will offer you money, I will offer you the most beautiful life partner.' I have a lot of human... 'I will offer you all of these things.' So all of these things now, what? There are the temptations from the headspace. 'Come, come to you very well.' And most of us in satsang, we have tried this for a long time and it has not gotten us anywhere. It ultimately only leads to trouble and suffering.

Ananta

That is why you must latch on that whole course to the center of your heart and to follow that till you reach your home, which is in God's light. So if you believe that you are here, you're halfway there, you're almost there—all of these things—then you just have one job. One job is to drop everything that is false, and then you are in your true home. Nothing else is important or relevant at that time. Is it? Because what it feels like for those of you who experience living in the light, you see, then to live in the head, it can feel like a complete disconnection. It's not true, but it can feel like that. When you venture back into your head, it will feel like a disconnection from your true home and it may seem like your suffering is amplified. But just use all of those reminders to drop the false, let go, and arrive right back into your heart.

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Ananta

So in return for the possibilities and the temptations of the world, we have just one thing, which is the truth. So everything the world has to offer is ephemeral, is changing, is not true. But the truth is already with you here. So I feel this metaphor of us are just trying to build a nice ashram for ourselves in the planet of the head, and you can't do that. You can do that, but it won't be any fun. It wouldn't be true light, it won't be true love, it's not going to be true peace, true joy. So but remember that you take a flight out; you don't have to take a flight in. The only flight that you can take is going outwards when you don't board a flight to your home—you know, the spaceship rocket in this case.

Ananta

And how do we do that? We latch on to a thought. A thought comes... something... and then you decide to latch on to it, and then it flies away with you into the wrong planet. And before you know it, you feel like, 'What has happened? What is always...' and then because we feel that view, we aren't wrong. We never want to be proven wrong. We want to make that work. We want to make that adventure work out. But it can never work out. You just cannot. So let's look at it another way. One, the planet of the head is the planet... whose planet is that? That's what it boils down to. What is it that we really want? Military attached to me, wrong planet. Empty of me, like that's the whole God of anything cannot have goods in school. So this is the simplicity of what I'm pointing to.

Ananta

When the temptation of our head, when the need seems strong, all the devices that have been made available to us are just so that we can let go and chop away at the falseness of individual identity and for us to live in God's light in the presence of the heart. So all that I'm asking is you can check: what is your present attempt? What's the present return? Are you trying to fix things in your head, come to a point of perfect resolution, or are you willing to let go of everything and surrender fully to God?

Ananta

Okay, let's look at this. How about strong sensations in the head? Sometimes it seems I'm in the head. No perception. That's what I'm saying, that it may seem like you're living on Earth. And when I say that, I'm not talking about a real planet with the appearance of a world, which is the world of perception. So all this pain, pleasure, emotion, thought, a body—all these sensations are perceptions of the world which we actually never live in; we just perceive them. So we never lead into something that we just perceive as an indicator of something that is happening to our reality. Just that is not the head that I'm talking about. To perceive the sensation in your head, but that perception has nothing to do with this planet you're on. You could be healing your heart and say, perceiving this world, and the same world could be perceived with a lot of beauty, but that is not a pre-acquisition. And we could be living in your head and the same world could be perceived with so much trouble. So what is my point? My point is that the realm of perceptions doesn't have to change. It's where you are that has to change. Nothing has to change in the world. Where are you? Just... so right now, where are you?

Ananta

Before we can look into the question of predominantly what is true about us, let's check at least for the moment: how many are visiting the planet of the head at the moment? And nobody, please do. Okay, let's say how many are living in God's light? Both? Both? Some are doing the impossible ones. This time only finding it very easy to be in God's love. So I would be cautious about the difficult and the very easy. Okay, both hands. So this is beautiful to have so many reporting that you're living in God's light. And even the ones who are reporting that they feel like they're in the head, it's not a full-fledged answer. It's like what I'm getting overall is a sense that you like to visit from time to time, but you don't live there. So what tempts us back into the head? Or what are our favorite things? Before my expected, I couldn't see anyone anymore. What is so tempting over the planet of the head? Okay, let's go.

Seeker

Namaste. Um, you know, it's funny. I find it's not the pleasant things; it's more feelings of obligation. That's what I'm noticing. The harsher the feeling that, 'No, but something's got to get done, people are counting on me,' you know, this type of thing that tends to be up and running quite quickly.

Ananta

Yeah, so that takes... yes, I can relate to that. To somebody, this can be quite different things on the mind saying, 'People are counting on you.' But every time I'm able to spawn that people are helped only from my being in my heart. Although people may count on us to be in our heads to help them according to the way they think, although people may count on us to help them according to his best, which usually involves us going into our head. But what happens is the true way to help anyone is just by us being in our heart. And we recognize this over and over, although it will have its temptation, it will have its attraction, its gravity that we get used to make this to that.

Seeker

Yes, I mean that idea, and it's so evident at the time because I can feel when I'm sort of doing the thing that I thought gives us the obligation to do something inside is out of step with... it's out of time, it's not flowing. I'm reminded of, I think it was Mahesh who had that tour guide job a while back and was nervous about preparing. And I have an ayurvedic workshop I'm teaching in a couple of days. There's like a lot to do and outlines to create and infographics to make and this, and I'm noticing there's a way... high-tech ayurveda infographics, yeah, Shutterstock, I'm telling you, get... you know, there's all kinds of photos anyway. So putting something together for a very Western intellectual crowd, the content of the workshop is pure ease, but the... just let it...

Ananta

This is where things start getting a little like... and maybe invite you a bit deeper. Is it really about the obligation that they place on you, or is there a fear about what is... like, what is the worst-case scenario then if you don't fulfill any obligation?

Seeker

Then there's the first thing that comes is, 'I won't make an impact.'

Ananta

Yeah, yes. Okay, suppose you never make an impact again.

Seeker

That sounds like such a lovely relief. That, yeah, that's...

Ananta

Okay, so the mind holds us, you see, hostages with something tied to some image, something about what people will think about us or, you know, this kind of thing. So suppose we just said, 'It's okay, it's all called Grace.' If in fact God is no impact, good, it's all fine. What would happen if you were useless at your workshop?

Seeker

Refunds. I'm just... there's just this really like deep, warm, glowing relief that's flooding my being right now. You can say that. You can't even detect any fear of that happening right now. Sometimes it's just happen, sometimes it's just an ideal remnant of an idea says, 'But you have to live up to people's expectations,' or 'You have to create value for them,' or 'You have to help them,' or 'You have to have an impact.' But we can't do any of that. In God's light, it is all God's problem. And it gets trickier when the supposed impact is coming from us supposedly like static place, you know? I think it could... the discrimination can get a little wonky there when it's like, 'No, no, it's so people can XYZ, it's not like to fill my bank account,' but it's the same thing. Well, this is where can you... will obviously know much.

Seeker

Expectations, or you have to create value for them, or you have to help them, or you have to have an impact. But we can't do any of that in God's light; it is all God's problem. And it gets trickier when the supposed impact is coming from us supposedly like a static place, you know? I think the discrimination can get a little wonky there when it's like, 'No, no, it's so people can XYZ.' It's not like to fill my bank account, but it's the same thing.

Ananta

Well, this is where you will obviously know much more about Ayurveda than I do. But I feel like we can have categories of the gunas in our head, and I also feel that the true satwa is only living in God's light. So we can determine categorically in our head that, 'Okay, this is this food, it does not inflame things and it does not agitate,' and all of that. And then we can say, 'Okay, now this is this, that's it, this is tamas.' All of this we can categorize. But I feel like everything turns to gold in God's light. So I just feel that the higher power—it is not, by the way, I'm not giving any other excuses for bad behavior—and I say truly with integrity that that which flows from the heart has to always be satwik. I cannot imagine something flowing from God's light being rajasic or tamasic.

Seeker

Thank you. Only put that in the infographic! Yeah, and then so it's like, it is beyond all these categories. It's an overriding filter over items completely. It's just the whole game just—poof—gone. Oh, all your grace. So then, as servants of God, if we fear to take that position at all, then we have only one job, which is to make this life about that life. My only job is to make this life about that life and not about the ego shadow. And then as we are open to it happening, then our words, our actions, all are built in the light of God, and then everything becomes like a satsang. And there's just been a belief whenever I'm in session with anyone in a class like that, that I'm never doing anything. There's really no preparation; something is just happening. It's the easiest thing and it's so sweet. Where it gets caught is when there's a feeling of needing to put something tangibly in space and time through writing, through preparation, because I never ever ever function that way. And then there gets to be this inner battle between, 'But where is it coming from? It should be...' The whole thing just gets really messy really, really fast. So I consider this an opportunity with you right now and the grace of you.

Ananta

Okay, remember that it's not about the activity. It's not about the activity or whether we prepared a lot of things or we just came just like this, empty. Either is fine as long as everything moment to moment is flowing in God's light. Now, God can decide to make a PowerPoint presentation full of infographics. There's nothing like that that God cannot do, you see? So we must not make these categories saying that, 'Okay, now if I'm preparing, I'm not being truly empty' or anything like that. It's not like that. When you're empty inwardly, then outwardly whatever activity can happen. And this is the tricky part because many of us get confused with this and we start to judge ourselves based on the outer activity rather than which planet we are living on inwardly. It's not about that. This body, this model, is just in the realm of perception, which has nothing to do with where we are.

Ananta

And you said rightly that the mind can also poke you with the same question that I'm asking you. They also poke you with the same thing: 'But where is it coming from? Where is it coming from?' But it's trying to actually help you resolve things at that level, you see? And if you turn the tables on the mind, then when you say, 'Where are you coming from?' switch out. He'll stop asking you that question very fast if you use that as a reminder to just switch out instead of justifying to the mind, 'Oh no, no, I was in the heart.' None of that. Just, oh, boom! It's only by your grace that that's possible and available as an option. So all that's been shared is the lesson as well as the reminder. Yes, yes, Grace takes care of all of this, and yet there is some value in that being reminded. There's some value in that getting seated within us.

Ananta

So, in the same way—I'm being very satisfied today for some reason—in the same way, the negative sense, like mental trouble: 'Beam me up, Scotty!' Yes, there's nothing that you have to fix there. That's too difficult to explain, but let me try. There's a TV show in which they are exploring all these planets, and then when they get into trouble or their mission is done, they just put in their communicating device, 'Beam me up, Scotty.' Scotty was the one manning the transport, which is like a teleporter. So immediately they would just phase out of that planet and be back on the spaceship. So, something like that is good. Just like this. So whatever that 'Beam me up' thought is—whether it is a prayer, whether it is inquiry, whether it is whatever works—you just... it is this click. If it's nothing at all, you just need to come back to the right place instantly.

Ananta

Remember this: that you never have to resolve things at the level that the problem is, you see? The problem can only be transcended and not resolved at the level of its operation. A problem cannot be resolved at the same level of its operation. It's just like there's a war happening in a particular playground; two sets of kids are fighting or something like that. You know, there are hundreds of kids that are fighting. Then if you try to resolve it, it won't happen. So you need to find a place which can really then make a difference, which is to get out of the playground yourself. And maybe something later can extend further. So if it is like a war between gangs and you can't go and get in the middle, you will get shot. You just have to go to the police station and report it. That's not a good metaphor to find, but this is what I'm saying.

Ananta

So if you have conflicting thoughts, if one thought you're saying, 'This is right,' and another, 'This is wrong,' forget about it. You can't resolve it over there. Your job is not to determine which one is right and which one is wrong. Many of us just get stuck doing that, and you don't have to determine these kind of things. Yes, please, when you get to leave, then what happens? This is fun. Okay, let's see if I can completely confuse you. So in your head you're getting bored, 'Yeah, I'm gonna leave.' But then what happens? You're in your heart and there also you feel like you're burning because what is happening? The temptations are coming. The temptations from the head are coming, and while they still seem valuable to some extent, it will seem like you're a burden. In that case, you have to still keep it. So it's fully confusing: instantly leave, or instantly still don't leave your heart like that. And equalized, even if it feels like you are burning, because that invitation to try and resolve it conceptually will come to you to fix things. So this contemplation is a good antidote to live in the head.

Ananta

Don't worry about the nomenclature. With whatever you have at your disposal, love God, surrender to God, follow God's love. There is nobody in this universe who cannot find this love. Where this being is, this love is bound to be. Just get on with it. We just fall in love in this world because this following is the actual transcending; this is actually leaving behind the realm of the force. Next one says: 'And you shall love God, you should love the Lord.' Love God with all your strength. But if anyone loves God, he is known by God. This is beautiful because to love God is, of course, to know God. And then in most of the world, we feel that we are alienated from God. 'God does not know us. How can he be listening to seven billion of us constantly praying to him?' and this kind of thing. But it is not like that. God is the author of this story. Every character and every move of that character is fully known to God. So never feel that you're alienated from the true light. Their existence itself is that light; it cannot exist without God.

Ananta

It says: 'But as for me, I will always have hope. I will praise you more and more.' Yeah, this one is: 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' I love you, Lord, my strength. The Lord is my rock, my fortress, and my savior. In him is my final protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety. So the last one is a beautiful description of the planet of the heart: living in God's light, being in love with God, feeling secure, unburdened. Just a little presence your way. Being is worthy of love. This is the antidote to fear because the mind is full of fear. It says, 'What will happen if you don't do the workshop well? You could go and everybody realizes you're a fool, you don't know any of this.' Nothing will happen. Something has to happen in reality. It is only that the self-image that we may want to hold up, that we may want to deliver to others' expectations, because we don't want them to think badly about us.

Ananta

Let us see if it is really possible to disconnect from God. So the body is fully tired. I can relate to that body, the entire part. So he wrote, 'The body is very tired.' So the body is tired, then what else? Everybody hates us. The master also doesn't care about me. You know, what else? What is the worst-case scenario? All our relationships are a mess. I have no money in the bank. The body we talked about anyway. Freedom seems like a far cry. It seemed that you were there sometimes, but now as I really look, where is God? Where is freedom? It seems too distant. This is the worst case. But even in this case, are you here? You have to be here to even report all of these experiences. All of this that you are is God's presence. Now escape that. Escape that. Any of us who feel like we are not finding God, try to leave God. Escape the presence that which is here. Say, 'Go, don't be here.' Let's see. Can we do it? Anyone succeeded? Hands up? Anyway.

Ananta

So, true God we can never leave, but the God that we want we can never have. True God we can never leave, and true God can never leave us, but the God that we want we can never have. This is because the God that we want has a mean world, and you just feel like, 'I am going to make this happen one way or the other. I will have tantrums, I will be angry, I will do everything possible to have it my way, and God will come to me in my way.' It just doesn't happen. It's just not possible. So it's not the one that you want which is God; the one that you already are is God. What is it that you already are that is worth exploring more than what is happening or what is not happening? And if we keep making determinations about our progress or the lack of it based on what we are perceiving of the world, which includes this body, then we are just using the wrong instrument to track.

Ananta

And that is what I want to share for a few hours. Some of you are like—you maybe don't realize—but first of all, this is like, 'I will have it this way,' and then you try every single thing to have it that way. But I'm pointing you to that which is so much greater than that which you could ever want. Does it take every idea you have of utopia, like the ideal situation that you want in your life? You see, take that and you say, 'Father, give me that gift,' because that is the highest, you see? But I will not give you that gift because that is not the highest. The highest is that which is already what you have. We can have an idea of what is the highest. 'If this were to happen, then this would be the highest.' And I've seen so many that exactly those things happen, whether it is at work, whether it is in spirituality, and yet you realize that it was just something like a figment of our mind. And this is like, what can be better than that? Your heart can and is so...

Ananta

See, but I will not give you that gift because that is not the highest. The highest is that which is already what you have. We can have an idea of what is the highest. If this were to happen, then this would be mine. And I've seen so many that exactly those things happen, whether it is at work, whether it is in spirituality, and yet you realize that it was just something like a figment of our mind. And this is like, what can be better than that? Your heart can and is so... tell me, is it all confusing? Because we feel like we have an idea about what it means to have God or find God because we are spiritual. But I can see that I can see this one; he has like that, or she is like that, or Ananta is like this. None of that. You can find them because this is just in the realm of perception. And whose light is that perception? Journey, whose light is that perception? Challenge. So, who's here independent of what you want or don't want, or what you think you have or don't have, and what you're finding or not finding, how well you're doing or not doing? Let's go fully.

Ananta

It will not come in the trajectory that you have defined for yourself. It will not come in that trajectory that we have defined for us. It is not an upward movement; it is a retreat into sheer innocence and simplicity, like an infant. That is why you can never determine your spiritual progress. Never determine your spiritual progress because only the Satguru presence within you can guide you. I was telling another child the other day, their mind pushes them, convinces them that they are a failure. So I said to him that you must accept that you are the biggest loser in this world. Then the mind cannot blackmail you. You are a failure? Yes. You are never gonna get it? Yes. Being an unworthy loser? Yes. Then accept. Now what? So all these scare tactics of the mind then lose their potency. Otherwise, we keep dancing to their tunes. And it is worse for those of you—many times it is worse for those of you who had spiritual experience, spiritual insight—because we want to do with that what we try and do with things of the world, which is to try and own it and keep it. But we never can. Never can do it.

Ananta

So you must first be humble enough to accept that you don't know what is next. No idea. The minute you start to know, because this trouble starts, you know, strongly causes trouble. Without knowing, now what is your project? List all the world can throw at me. Make this body tired. You can mess up every relationship. All the loved ones can go. All the material comfort can go. And there may be nothing which is seen in this world ever again. Very much. It may just be like a limbo, like the solitary confinement of a prison. Even in all of that, nothing can take away God. Nothing can take away God if God is really what you want. And all that I've said anyway is going to happen. What a beautiful life. All this may happen, but I have God. I have God on this map. The body may break down now. You may get a phone call now that your family is left, they're done with your stuff. My house is being honest. Everything that the world has given us, it may take away and will take away. But you have God. You have reality. And all of this is just Lego bricks. All of this is just Lego bricks. To let go of the Lego bricks, nothing here has been.

Ananta

Everything shines in God's light. Nothing here is valuable, tasty, fragrant, beautiful sounding, unless it is in God's light. And in God's light, your perception could be filled with the most despicable thing and you will feel like you are in heaven. I mean, the ego shadow. The perceptions could be just the most sublime gardens, but it will seem like you're in hell. This is exactly what I'm trying to tell you. It's not about what is appearing in the world. Are you living here? And every excuse that you have that 'I can't because this' is a fraud. Who are you fooling yourself? Every excuse that all of us have to not live in God's light, and who are we destroying? Who are we fooling? We ourselves. The world convinces us that a known devil is better. At least I know this hell. If I'm comfortable in my hell, you see, just if you can help me here, then help me. Don't try to pull me out of here because that is too scary. This is the lamentation of the seeker. The lamentation of the seeker saying, 'Can you make it better for me while I continue to live in my hell?' And I will tell you how to do it. I'll tell you exactly. I will give you the roadmap. I will give you the curriculum. You can help me by doing this, by not being like that, but by being like this, by saying this but not saying that. You can define it. You can say, 'Now you will make my experience better.' Being like this is not going to happen. I'm here to pull you out of that muck. Pull you out of that muck. But you have to want to let go. And if you say that 'I don't want to let go but it just doesn't happen,' it's not true. Because you haven't let go of your idea about what it would mean for it to happen. So either God is true or she is true. You can't have it both ways.

Seeker

Let's try it. Thanks. Your time to surrender. What is the process of doing that? So I was just playing and seeing you. This one is that I didn't do anything. That means, yeah, okay. So that there's only this. Okay. So there's a split second one. Yeah. It is by saying...

Ananta

See, okay. Now who's here? Forget about pause. You don't have to determine what's happening. You just have to find God now. How difficult is it? It's here. It's the simplest. You don't have to determine anything about anything. Just find God now. And when I say find God, actually just don't leave God. It's not like a finding; it is a refusing to leave. God is here. You are here. This 'you' is a person. We've gone through this like ten thousand times. That 'you' is not personal. And how many times do I have to remind you that don't go with the 'but'? That's all. And if you do not have the power to not go with it, I would not be stupid enough to say, 'Okay, God is here. What are we doing?' It's okay. So what? Yeah. It's so much support that is... yes. And that beauty and that peace and that mercy should make us urgent and not complacent. It's a strange decision because many times what happens with us is that, you know, God is not going anywhere, so let's forget about it because He's always going to be there. Don't count on me. So the offer expires now. The offer expires now. Then well, still continue to fix the problem that you're solving in the head. Yes, in the mind, it's all upside down.

Ananta

So whatever aspect of God or form of God or no form of God that you relate to, that is here right now. Yes. There are no instruments of that activity. It's just how does the fruit ripen? And what does the fruit have to do to ripen? How does the flower bloom? Now what does the flower have to do to bloom? Nothing. It just has to be, you know, it just has to be itself. So for this moving to happen, for this lightning to happen, is all that is just that the flower should not take itself to be the bumblebee. That's what, that's all. So really, the depending on the ripening is not our problem. We have one job: do not go to the planet of the head. Don't go to me. That's why it's simple. But it doesn't know that it has time. It's all stupid. It is stupid compared to the ultimate intelligence of God. In relation to that, everything is different. But in worldly terms, it is very, very convenient. It's very, very smart. It's very, very smooth. It knows everything.

Ananta

Yes, you could be sitting so comfortably in God's light. Out of nowhere, something can come. You have to be amazed at it, actually. Get somewhere like nothing can change. Oops. So that's so clear. And then comes posing as a friend, wearing the best clothes. It says, whispers in your ear, 'Hey, you know...' Oh, so it's not stupid at all. It's very smart. It's God's design. It was designed to make it realize it doesn't actually know anything. But in God's design, it is designed to play that way. It is not something that can hold knowledge. So when we say the mind actually is just a bundle of thought, but the thoughts come from an intelligence which has been designed by God too, to create that opposing force of limitation, to give them the juice, to give that friction in this game. There's no actual entity called the mind. It's just the term that you use to put all of this into some abstraction so we can deal with it. It's only experienced a thought at a time. But because that seems too confusing to be able to conceptualize, we make a term called mind.

Ananta

It's like there is no such thing as the body. What was the thing is the body? But because we don't want to say every time, 'Okay, now there are ten doors and two feet and this,' you know, and then you say the actresses are not ten doors, this too is a male plus flesh plus bone. Then you say there's no name, there's actually just these molecules, all that. So because even a perceptual... the perceptual realm is too difficult for the mind to fathom, it relies on these abstractions: body. So who am I? We don't say, 'Oh, I am a pair of feet, a pair of arms, a torso, and a head.' So that would be too difficult for the mind to keep identifying with. They are in this whole. So actually, simply, there's no world. Do we use the term world because it'd be too difficult to say, 'Oh, this light, this space, this time, this sound, this feeling, all of this'? So we combined all of it in table. But so we make a dictionary of agreement on which the delusion is then spread, you see. And the mind uses that dictionary of common agreement, which is called language, to then propose that this is what is happening.

Ananta

The mind can't really define what this is. Yeah, it does not have the knowledge that God is there. It's just like a device, like an instrument is designed to give all the messaging which will be limited in opposition to God in God's own design. So because it is in constant opposition to reality, you can say that it knows that reality is there because even to oppose something, you have to know what you're opposing. But actually, it is just the design of it. It's been programmed that way. It does not have the ability because it's just like a thought at a time. There's no actual thing like the mind. So a thought at a time is not aware of the truth, just like a floating perception is. It's not so long. It's just like, how does light know that it's supposed to shine? How does sound know it's meant to be here? This is the design of it. Like we cannot explain this. In the same way, these thoughts are designed to oppose, to cause resistance where actually in perception there is none. And it can be very sneaky in terms of the positions.

Ananta

Yes, but not in the planet of the head. Set for His presence. It is balance. Without that, there is no Satsang. You can have the most articulate words, you can have the most best-sounding music and the best thing, but if it is empty of presence, then it's not Satsang. But you could be just sitting around and the most ineloquent words can be shared, but if the presence is felt, then there's only one requirement to Satsang: that is a complete lack of ownership over me. Complete lack of ownership over there. Notion of meaning.

Ananta

So it is completely unimportant what you think about any of what I said and what your conclusions are about any of what I said. I want to know what you heard about it. What is your intuition about it? God's light is shining in your heart. It's not the physical heart; it's the core, in the heart of your very existence. God's light is there and it gives life to the entire world. Just in one tiny compartment which we call the mind is this the story unit of the sleeping gas. So if you open that door, is this... and my sleep doesn't look like physical sleep. That sleep looks like me and you. Is he winning and losing? That is what that sleep looks like. This is the power of their sleeping again. Even in spiritual attainment, everything that inv...

Ananta

Your heart—it's not the physical heart—it's the core. In the heart of your very existence, God's light is there and it gives life to the entire world. Just in one tiny compartment, which we call the mind, is the story unit of the sleeping gas. So if you open that door, this sleep doesn't look like a physical scene; that sleep looks like 'me' and 'you,' winning and losing. That is what that sleep looks like. This is the power of the sleeping gas. Even in spiritual attainment, everything that involves a 'me' is a result of the intoxication, the hypnosis of the sleeping gas in your head. Okay? So satsang is the antidote where the heart is speaking through an instrument to you, reminding you that this hypnosis is not your reality and it is time to wake up.

Ananta

But what happens to us mostly is that we are in that sleeping gas, so we decide, 'Yeah, this is true, right? I am gone.' Categorization has nothing to do with any of this. You cannot make a position about what I'm saying. You cannot make a right or wrong about it. It is not about even agreement or disagreement. It is just about: are you coming with me or not? All right? I'm pushing you back into your light. Are you enjoying the hypnosis of the sleeping gas more? If you have some difficulty, then tell me. Something you have to meet immediately and say, 'What is the problem?'

Seeker

Yes, it's just this sensation.

Ananta

Has it stopped you from following what I'm saying? It can't stop you because I'm not talking about changing anything in perception. Stay with me. If you buy a ticket into the planet of the head, then you will go on that plane. You stay with me. I am saying: are you here right now? Even to experience that sensation, you have to be. Tell me that you're not here. Okay, you're here. Is that 'you' personal? If it's not personal, it's God. Listen, if it's not personal, it's God. And if it's God, then we are wasting time with things which are not relevant, because God is there and no person ever was. You are here?

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

Does that 'you' have a boundary? Are you in full exploration of that which is here? This presence, this being—only be concerned with that. It's like the sun is shining and there's some small pieces of a broken mirror on the ground, you see? And we want to experience the light through the small pieces of the broken mirror when the sun is actually shining. What would you call that? So our attempts to understand are just our attempts to see the light through the pieces of broken mirror on the ground, where God's light is shining in your heart. It doesn't matter what perceptions are there. It doesn't matter if this body is done; if it's finished, it's finished. But God is here. It is not poetic, it is not metaphoric, it is very direct.

Ananta

I am not even asking you to conclude. I'm asking you to meet that presence more than you're meeting that energy which is showing up. Can you meet that presence more than you want to understand what is happening to me with that energy? Who is here? Isn't that most important? There's a presence within me, and we have neglected that. They said, 'In the light of that presence, what shines? That I want to understand.' But in whose light is it shining? Whose light is it showing up in? There is nothing more worthy to explore and nothing more worthy to be in service to, actually. But to be in service to, first we have to explore. If you are going to explore and if you're going to understand, only explore and understand the light within you. Don't waste time on the sleeping gas, on the darkness.

Ananta

Something feels familiar, and people could be living in the worst circumstances. It's true about prisoners also; they don't want to leave their prison when they've had a long prison sentence. This may be prison, but it is our home. It could be the worst prison in the world, but if you lived there ten years, it becomes a habit. You see, when they don't want to leave, you know what most prisoners do? They commit crimes to come back in. Same as Plato's Cave: somebody says there is light out there, and that one is hated because we're so used to just living in shadows. I said, 'This is not your true life. Your true life is God's life. It's in that direction. Come look that way.' That one, nobody wants to hear. So it feels like, 'Okay, how does this help the shadows, actually?'

Ananta

So this is what I'm saying: in the life of the mind, it seemed like God's light was an impossibility because the hypnosis—that is the design of the hypnosis—is to make it seem like God's light is hidden. But that's my job, to point you out from that, because you're taking yourself to be something that you're not. If you are taking yourself to be something that you're not, and you just take yourself to be a bundle of sensations or perceptions, but you are the light of this universe, what a strange sort of setting. Satsang is in the world. Why do we fight with people in the world? Because when they tell us, 'Oh, you are so small, you are nothing,' we say, 'How could you say I'm nothing? I have this.' So this idea... I am saying that you are everything. You are that in which this world is born, this universe is born. You see? And you will say, 'But what about my mind? But my mind says, oh, I have this sensation, this perception.' Let's talk about that. You are that in which this universe is born, and you're talking to me about popcorn because you take yourself to be that limited body.

Ananta

Tell me about the light. Why are we wasting time? Unless there's a disbelief—it's not even a disbelief, but a lack of faith. See, maybe it still seems like all that this guy is saying is all some sort of like poetic, absurd sort of stuff which I come here to hear to make myself feel good, but he's not speaking the truth. Because if I am speaking the truth, then God is right there with you. And if God is right there with you, what are you going on about? So either I am not telling the truth or you are not. Both can't work together.

Seeker

I have it upside down fully, like you said, or you have it fully upside down when you're in the mind. Which is it?

Ananta

So what happens is that when inhabitants of different planets meet, both inhabitants try to get the other one to their way. But what happens in the Guru-disciple relationship especially is that it's so absurd because the disciple mind will also still continue to get the Master to buy into their perspective of their limitation, without realizing that if the Master also came along with us and said, 'Yes, that's the real problem you have. You know, it's a real problem. You're really stuck,' you see, if he was to say yes to your limited view of reality, then nobody has any chance. Nobody has a chance at this. You see? So it is strange that when I refuse to accept your limited view of what this is, then you get even more upset without realizing what you're actually doing.

Ananta

Because if the world was how you're making it out to be, then all of us are in trouble. If it is possible for us, even if we take ourselves to be humanity, if it is possible for us to get stuck and for God's light to be obscured and not to be found, then we are all in bigger trouble. So you want me to accept that big trouble, that God actually is distant from us, He's not here, you see, so that we can all be miserable together? But I don't want to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to buy into an idea that a tiny perception stops you from meeting God, or a tiny thought comes and convinces you that, 'Oh no, no, but it's still some time for me, I'm not ready.' Yes, stop it. Stop it. I am not buying into that mindset, and you don't want me to, although you may feel like that gives you some comfort. It's all rubbish. 'I'm gonna have a right time.' My mind isn't very important. That's the best time to tell you.

Ananta

So in all this talking, this example comes to mind, or what it is that takes my attention away from God's light. Important. And the example that comes to mind is if someone was to come here and say, 'I have to chop your hand off. Yeah, I have no option, it just has to happen here.' I'm okay with it. But if they come and they say, 'I have to chop your hand off, but there's something you can do,' yes, I will go insane and suffer more than getting the hand chopped off because of the sense of power to do something personally. Yeah, it's a very good metaphor. Now throw it away fully because we're not helping you to just trap you in mind things. I'm telling you God is here now. Yes, it's just this sense of choice and you're right. I mean, it's just gone to another zone. Don't feel anything is anything. God is here.

Ananta

When I say God is here, am I waiting for your conceptual acceptance, like he was saying? Am I waiting for your conceptual acceptance or your recognition? I'm waiting for your recognition. God is here. If you have a problem with the word 'God,' we can say 'unlimited being.' Limitless being is here. Because there's nobody I've asked so far where I've said, 'What are the boundaries to this being?' and they've said, 'Uh, here it starts, here it stops there.' You see, nobody's been able to show me the boundary so far. So if you don't want to use 'God,' we can say unlimited being is here. Well, unlimited being is there within you, and you are worrying about something that is going to die. Sorry, it's just... you're still understanding too much. You are understanding still.

Ananta

Who can say these things? Who can look at a piece of fear and say, 'This is unending'? You have to conceptualize to do that. No? Can you look at a perception and say, 'This is unending'? No. You see? Okay, it's a little bit of shaking happening in my throat. Okay, the mind makes an interpretation of that and says, 'This is unending.' The concepts, yes. Every concept is energetically charged. No, no concept is energetically charged. There is energetic and there is concept. You see? Just like the one who's doing the sign language, you see, has nothing to do with the actual speech. The same thing with the thoughts and perception. So that one is just energetic. There can be no interest in just the energetic component. Interest arises with the concept. Yes. So it can be attractive to your attention, but by itself, it cannot be attractive to your belief. And interest means interested in making a further conceptual understanding about it.

Ananta

So I'm making a speech, okay? You're making the sign language. But your ability to really convey what I'm truly saying is restricted because of your inability to see what I've actually seen. I am talking about the sign language versus the insight, not about you and me. So how much can we rely that, okay, now that insight is leading to that sign showing up over there? Simpler metaphor: do you feel like those who've never been to the Louvre should make complaints about how the Mona Lisa is? He was just thinking, 'Yeah, I would say it's not fair to do that.' You have to have gone and seen it, and then you can say, 'Oh, it's so small, oh, it's nothing, it's marketing,' whatever. So in the same way, the mind does not understand the nature of a single moment. What is this right now? This thing.

Ananta

So that's what it's saying, that you have unending fear. Only God is unending. You see? What it convinces you about this unending fear, it landed like in two minutes. Say, 'Okay, what's for dinner?' No? So it's just... so it makes the unreal into the real, the temporal into unending, eternal. And the reality is then obscured because we are busy dealing with this stuff. You see? And God is sitting in the heart. What is the way to avoid that? Don't buy into a conceptual position because this one has no idea what it is talking about. It has never entered the museum for it to be able to say, 'Oh, this is better, that is Rembrandt is better, Van Gogh is not so good, it's completely pure marketing.' You cannot say these things. But it's constantly telling you about your life. Okay, who is it? Who is it to tell you about your life? Who is this mind to tell you about your life? What gives you the authority? What gives you the power? Who is it that can tell you about your life? It is the afterthought. How does it continue your life? You conceive.

Ananta

It has never entered the museum for it to be able to say, 'Oh, this is better. That Rembrandt is better. Van Gogh is not so good.' It is completely pure marketing. You cannot say these things, but it's constantly telling you about your life. Okay, who is it? Who is it to tell you about your life? Who is this mind to tell you about your life? What gives you the authority? What gives you the power? Who is it that you can tell you about your life? It is the afterthought. How does it continue your life? You conceive your life? An infant has no thoughts; it perceives life. It is the afterthought which is the interpreter, which says, 'Ah, this means this, this means that.' Do you wake up first or does the thought be conceived? You wake up. Otherwise, the thought which conceived you would wake up first and then you would wake up. You wake up and you may have many moments where there are no thoughts, but you still perceive the world. If it conceived our lives, then manonasha, which is the complete dissolution of the mind, would not be possible. Then you would not be able to live because the conceiver of life is gone. It conceives the life of the story 'you.' It is the narrator of the life of the make-believe you, not the reality.

Ananta

So, I'll tell you. So, if you are now going to conclude, 'Oh, this is what happened to me,' then that 'me' is conceived by that thought. But empty of that, you're here. And it's good that you don't understand because those are the conversations I want to have where I'm having them and you don't get them, but somewhere they are being received. This is what I'm saying. I just want to wake all of you. I want to shake all of you and say: What are you doing? Who is living in your heart versus mind? That one. We're here to solve the mysteries of the universe in the body and all of that. Who is in your heart and who's in your head telling you all this stuff? Why has that one got the authority over your life? Who is that one? Who is it? Does anyone know who that is? Yeah, but who is it? Like, whose thought is it? Who is it representing? What gives the power? Why is it to be trusted? Just because it seems like it's always been there? Is it just because it seemed like it's always been there? But that's not true. And we have given it so much authority that the Master should now conform to its views about how the Master should be. So much authority it gave so it can dictate also.

Ananta

One says God is here and don't worry, you can ask. And maybe something super aggressive, but there's pure joy exploding from here. God is here. That is realized, but something our mind is not accepting. Don't wait for acceptance. Don't wait for acceptance. So, this is the absurdity: that that who you call Father, Master, Guru, or even interested in whatever he is telling you, 'God is here,' instead of exploring for yourself, you're waiting for acceptance from your head. And you will also say, 'But I am not accepting it. I don't believe it yet.' That one in your head is not you. And I see that many of you have been in spirituality for decades, but you have this boundary around you, you see, which is that you are right about something. And that's why I'm not able to get through. Okay? You don't let me in fully because you want to be right about something. I am giving you the best news in the world, the best news in the world: that God is at no distance from you and you can find and meet and be God. And if you—but if you continue to say, 'Good, no, no, but this I'm right about, you know, this that...'

Seeker

Nice final product is fantastic. Yeah. It's like you just wanted to tell us about this. Yeah. Things are so serious too. It's too strong in this moment. So once it happens and we had something very beautifully, but they did not like have a sense of like how the devotion is affecting the room and what energies have been experienced and all of that. So then after like maybe one hour, it was so strong in that room, you know, it's just like Shiva, that sort of thing. And then this boy, sweet-looking, said—I won't say the name, but some of you know—so he came and said, 'Father, can I please chant the Shanti Mantra?'

Ananta

The next one is the sharing of devotional thing is not just about singing. Let's not go for another time, getting too hard. How can I talk about this? This is what the hell has been taken out of it. I got woken up because... curtain of lack of trust. Because how can it be that I have been going on for like 12 years about the fact that God is here? And I know that you trust me. I know that you love me. I know that you have faith. You're waiting to work temporary suspension of these things. When you meet this truth, you're like, 'Okay, oh this, oh that, oh...' But no matter what the block is, whatever you may be claiming the block is, your life is prior to that. You can't deny. Let's play a different game. Let's play a different game. Let's not play like this game where I have to convince you that God is here.

Ananta

Let's play like one chapter, the first chapter finish, boom. When you do this conversation between Sage... maybe something like this: How long will you insist on meeting me as Arjun? When will you meet me as Krishna? And if you just look at this stuff like, 'But this, but then...' the world will always give you something to 'but' about. The world will never keep quiet. Not given. The world will give you—in fact, your mind will give you. The world is fine, you see. The mind will always say, 'But...' God is here. We have to let go of advanced awareness. We don't realize it is stubbornness. Of course, we think that we are reporting the truth, but it's just like a stubbornness to dig deeply into who's like... this is stubbornness not to do that because we want to be right about some conclusion which is nothing. What does the mind actually know? We don't—it doesn't even know who it is. That's the mind. Who are you? It doesn't even know who it is and we are asking it to run our life and determine what is happening to us.

Ananta

Thank you. That is what you are. The woman-just aspect of you, which are not even like—these are just categories. Go beyond all of this strange kind of right. I am saying you are all there is. When you see you are all there is, you see. But my mind says, 'But this happened, but what about that?' Are you seeing the absurdity of it? I am being at least that—I'm being well represented by a thought. Hello? Hello? Okay, so this is the project. Either come back to me on Monday and tell me you found out who that is in your head, or you come back to me and tell me, 'I found out who that is in my heart.' Don't live in this obscure sort of, 'Oh, I don't know, there are two prompts which are available to me and you know, they like me, but I don't know who they are.' You want to spend your whole life, you know, being prompted by two different directions and you don't know which is which?

Ananta

Don't try to understand anything because I had told you some very strange stuff to do. That there's a light, unfathomable being in your heart. And I have told you with full seriousness and literally, you see. I'm not sharing poetry. I'm telling you literally: there is an unfathomable, unfathomable being. It means something that you cannot understand in your heart is living in your—okay, cannot understand in your head is living in your heart. Isn't that an urgent matter? That must be an urgent matter. Because if we had an ingrown toenail, that becomes an urgent matter. If you have an oversized appendix, that becomes an urgent matter. But an unfathomable being is living in you—that is not an urgent matter? That must become very urgent. You must find out who that is. And if you're getting a report from somewhere saying, 'Okay, I know what that is, it is actually symmetries,' find out whose voice that is. Because one report you heard from me. If you're going to take someone else's report about that same being, find out what authority that has to make that report to you. This is just because it's familiar doesn't make it true. What is the value of this kind of familiarity?

Ananta

Okay, after that, so the family event. So, thank you all so much for being in session today.