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What is the Reality of Time and Space?

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Ananta challenges the conventional reality of time and space, using metaphors and physics to shake the mind's rigid certainties. He encourages seekers to empty themselves of false knowledge to allow for a direct, intuitive meeting with Brahman.

The nature of reality as you take it to be, you have to start questioning that a lot more.
Is the witness an object within the universe, or is the universe an object within your consciousness?
Shake up the notions of Maya; once you let go of your clutches, discover what truly is.

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Ananta

And that is the beautiful contemplation: that even time and space are clearly emotional within my being. Within what time does being come and go, you see? And what is this time thing anyway? What is this time thing? Because I talk about this example very often where my children were going to school; I said bye to them at 7:30, and then I went back to sleep. I had a dream of a full lifetime. In that lifetime, it was so funny that I was getting late to a particular event by 30 minutes or something like that. I lived a full life, and it was not a life in some impossible world or something—a full life. Just before I woke up, which was at eight o'clock, I had lived a full life. God's sense of humor is that He made me be very clear about this because in that dream, that 30 minutes felt really wrong because I was getting late. So, in the dream, I lived a full lifetime in this world's 30 minutes. What is then the reality of time? And what is that time in which this time comes and goes?

Ananta

It's a little bit like walking into a movie. You know, you've just been brought into the movie here. It could be a 20th-century movie, and then you're in the 20th century; your attention is in 20th-century time. Movie is a very good metaphor, but I feel like a comic book is very good, you see, because the frames are all there. Do you visit and make time move based on how your attention flows? And the time your attention can flow experiences wheels even that. So, it's a bit more like that, I would say. Yes, it's just like from now to now to now, you see? What has changed? This is the frames on the comic book, isn't it? It's on the screen. So, what makes that change apparent to you? It is your attention, your perception. What you perceive in the light of your being.

Ananta

How is it that if something appears as an image, we call that the past and we say that is memory or something that has happened? Maybe that is all the future and we're going at a very rapid reaction to the future. It's all real absurd. Even physicists—what is the main thing about relativity? Moving at the speed of light into the next moment. The main thing, E=mc², was a smaller part of that same theory. But we are moving at the speed of light into the next moment in time. But if we are moving already in some way in the X, Y, or Z axis, then our rate of going into the next moment slows by that much. This is physics; we're not at the Yoga Vasistha yet! If you're moving at a particular speed, your rate at which you're going into the next moment in time slows down by that much. So, if you're moving at the speed of light, you don't move in time, you see?

Ananta

So, what is it basically saying? That if it is a location that you get to, basically your speed of getting to it depends on how fast you're already moving, you see? That means that time is not really different from space; it's just measured differently in our human perception. So, if space then is already there, as long as we can presume that things are there, it's not a different conversation altogether. What is the traditional idea? The traditional idea is the next moment arrives, all right, you see? It's created now. That would be true if this was not true: that the time that I take to reach the next moment may vary based on my existing speed, you see? So, if I'm already moving at the speed of light—I'm on a spaceship, some super invention has happened—then I'm not moving forward in time, you see? Oh, it's more like a place that I get to. And if I'm already moving at the speed of light, then I'm not getting to that place, you see? Isn't it? Because if I was slower, then I would get to that particular location in time. So, it's more like a location in time that I get to based on my current speed.

Ananta

We're just talking in terms of what even science is telling us, right? So, if that's a place that I get to, depending on my speed, I should be able to get to it earlier or later. And therefore, it's just like a spatial thing. Depending on the speed at which I'm climbing the stairs, I can get to it. If I'm climbing really fast, then I'll get to it really slowly; if I'm climbing it really slowly, I'll get to it really fast. Then suppose that we were talking at unimaginable speeds, much more than the speed of light and all of that, and we go back into the past—as the past can be achieved in that way—then what is this so-called arrow of time? It goes only in one direction. And the point is, how far back into the past can I go? Can I go 100 moments behind? If we're all going 100 times the speed of light or going really, really, really slow, then where would I end up? There's like moments before the next moment. What is that spectrum?

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Ananta

The point of saying all of this is not to make you into some theoretical physicist or something like that. I'm just saying the nature of reality as you take it to be—you have to start questioning that a lot more because then the mind has it very easily. That is the point of even the ancient scripture. Now, I don't know what to call ancient now after saying all that about time, but ancient scripture like the Yoga Vasistha, if you read it, it just throws away all these notions of time and space which are so set in stone. And unless you're willing to throw them away when I ask you a question like 'So, where are you really right now?', the question itself won't appeal to you. You'll say, 'What an absurd question to ask. Obviously, I'm sitting here, you know, I took the lift and came up.'

Ananta

So, what I'm really asking is: where are you witnessing this universe from? That which is a witness—is that witness an object within the universe? And if it is, then why have the sages told us such confusing things like 'Actually, the universe is an object within your Consciousness'? Are they lying to us, or are they deluded, or did they have a vision from inside which is possible for us to have? You see, the sages have given us all these fantastical stories in the Yoga Vasistha, and some glimpses of that in the Gita, and to a large extent in the Avadhuta Gita also. It is more of a negation of all of our ideas so that we can come to a point of openness to those intuitive insights. Because it will be very easy to say that 'I am Brahman itself,' you see? But to mean that, you need to meet it through your intuition, not through any sort of understanding. And to be intuitive, you need to be empty of your false knowledge, of your ignorance. And what is false knowledge? It is to take Maya to be real. So, shake up the notions of Maya. Once you let go of your clutches on what this is, you really discover what it truly is. The point is to shake up our entire notion of what is reality so that we can truly come to a meeting which is beyond spiritual experience.

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