Unperceived Self Insight - 1st May 2020
Saar (Essence)
Ananta guides a seeker to recognize that the inability to intellectually understand the 'I' is actually a profound discovery. He points out that the true Self is the unperceived perceiver beyond all mental concepts.
The fact that the 'I' cannot be understood and yet is naturally called 'I' is the essence of my teaching.
You are finding yourself as beyond something and nothing, and the mind doesn't like that.
Allow the mind to be in a world of confusion, and yet you are never lost to yourself.
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Transcript
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Now, I don't know, but I realized that, you know, when you say I'm going to say, you know, you are the perceiver, I cannot understand anything. What does it mean to perceive, you know? So I'm not in the teaching. I cannot understand or, yeah, like this maybe. Or I don't know how to start inquiry, you know. I tried to...
Let's go away, let's go really slowly. So we'll look at this. You say you hear something like 'Who is perceiving all of this?' for example, and you say that you see that 'I don't understand this.' So this, when you say 'I see that I don't understand this anymore,' that is not perceiving? By whom is the important question. By whom is the important question? So when you say that 'I perceive that I don't understand any of this anymore,' you see, is this second-hand information? Is it not being perceived by you?
I cannot understand when you say it's not perceiving by you. When you say 'you,' I take myself as this, you know, mind.
So that is just a bad habit. That is the habit we are getting rid of. So don't take yourself to be anything. Don't take yourself to be anything. Now, you're not lying. You're not making up this report that 'I see that I can no longer understand,' isn't it? You see? So that seeing, that perceiving, belongs to you, you see? Now, which 'you' does this belong to? That is the question to ask. And if it is something so unknown—I don't know, somebody here must be seeing it, I don't know who—then how would we call it? 'I see that I no longer understand.' We come into a beautiful discovery, you see. This is very nice.
So you say, on one hand, 'I don't understand who this I is who is seeing all of this. I don't understand what you mean.' On the other hand, you call it 'I,' you see? So this 'I' actually is true. It is not understandable, and yet we call it 'I.' That is the essence of my Satsang pointing, you see? What you are saying is the essence of what I'm saying, but you're saying it is almost bad news, but I am saying it is very good news. You see? How is it that without any conceptual understanding of who this 'I' is, we still call it 'I'? It is so natural, you see? Because somewhere beyond your intellect, somewhere beyond your perception, you see, you recognize yourself as this 'I' which cannot be found anywhere in the 'it' world.
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Why am I searching for it then?
If you're searching for it, you're doing it wrong. I just said that if you're not searching for it also, you're doing it wrong. Now, these two positions are in our mind, you see? But where your reality is, it is not subject to these two positions. What is happening is that you're trying to translate what is your clear intuitive insight and you're trying to see it from the reference point of intellect or perception, but you're finding that it can't be done, you see? And that is appearing to you as some sort of lack of understanding, you see? But it is not a lack of understanding. It is a beautiful understanding to see that it cannot be understood in my mental realm, and yet I am perceiving this, you see? This 'I' I cannot find in the world, in any phenomena, and yet I am not confused that it is 'I' that is perceiving this. Are we on the same page?
Um, I can confirm that I can see, but maybe I try to find myself as something.
Yeah, so 'something' then you would also come and go. If you someday, one day, you looked and looked and looked and you found, 'Ah, here I am, I am this something,' you see, then that 'something' would be another perception. It would just come and go. It would not be of any use. But you're finding yourself as beyond something and nothing, you see? And the mind doesn't like that. It says, 'What are you? I'm not understanding anything which is going on,' you see? 'What are these masters saying? What are they going on about?' you see? Who is the one that does not come and go in all of this, you see? But you are clear it is you that is even perceiving this sort of report from the mind, isn't it? That's why I keep saying: who is seeing this hand? Who's seeing this hand or hearing this voice? It is you. You can't deny it, but you can't show me a shape of this 'you.' You can't show me a size of this 'you.' You can't show me any description of this.
May I say something? Of course, while you are speaking, I just realized that I forget now soon. Yes, I just realized that it is me. Yes.
Okay, we can allow the mind to be in a world of confusion. Allow the mind to be in an absence of what it calls understanding, you see? And yet you are never lost to yourself.
Um, I was not expecting this, you know. There was too much expectation, and now I see that even understanding—to understand something—is also just an expectation. Yes, I mean, nothing to understand. Yes. And you know, always in Satsang people say that it's just so easy. I mean, it's not even easy. Not in that realm. It's not in that playground at all.
Yes. And it's not even like... right, yeah. It can be anything. We don't have to use any phenomenal benchmark to say it is like this or it is like that because it could be anything or nothing, you see? It is in a different realm, like I'm saying.
So again, I want to come into self-inquiry. I'm just wondering what position did you take to make that statement? No, I just, when I'm in day-to-day life, I forget about the question. I'm still, you know, thinking about... self-inquiry helps yourself. Not before now, but generally, can you direct me please?
I'm always here. I'm always here. But I don't want to give any stick to your mind to hold on to now. It'll come, it'll complain, it'll ask for all kinds of things and things like that just to retain some sort of position. It might come in a spiritual avatar, in a spiritual mask, saying, 'Ah, now yes, yes, now this is clear.' But just for future guidance, because after Satsang then I need something easy...
Who are we referring to ourselves again? Who has a future? The same one that is aware of all perception has a future?
My assumption. Yeah, just let it come and go. This nothing to hold on to. It's too cold, you can turn it off. No, no, I'm saying if it's too cold you can switch it off for a bit and switch it on, whatever. Unperceived self-insight. Unperceived self-insight—that is beautiful. I'm sure to the mind that's a nonsense term. How can you have insight without perception? Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Very good.