This Truth Is the Simplest to Find, Simpler Than Finding. It Is You. - 27th July 2019
Saar (Essence)
Ananta guides seekers to recognize that the self is known through direct awareness, independent of thoughts or perceptions. He encourages resting as the unchanging witness, beyond the mind's labels of good and bad.
Awareness is empty even of the quality of presence; it is existing beyond ideas of presence or absence.
The mind is designed to misrepresent both appearance and reality; you are the truth beyond any representation.
What is that truth which may not leave you even if the whole universe dissolves?
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You could party with them. Namaste and welcome everyone to satsang today. Bhagavan Sri Mooji Baba ki Jai. So, one asked the question: 'When is Guruji particularly next?' This is not the place to ask this, but I don't ask you off. Welcome to answer this question. We don't know. I think that what we're hoping, the hope is that he comes in the usual time, which is... usually what happens is he comes for four to six weeks. When he comes, it is around this time every year. Once the end of March, our season starts.
You've looked at form last many weeks. Which tools to use to look for the Self? Not to find the Self, which tools to use? So that part is clear. What don't you use to find yourself? Or which tools can't we use? This is clear. These two parts are... it's not things that can't use the mind. So, it will not be a thought. The Self will not come as a thought. Then what? Perception? No. So, the Self is not the easiest of an experience or appearance or perception. So, mind, which is thoughts and perception. So, what are the tools we have? What is the medium to find the Self? And if you include perception, actually, then most of the layers of our existence are counted in that, isn't it? You perceive the world as an aspect of your existence. Is the world another aspect of your existence? Part of the first aspect itself is the body, then thoughts we already talked about, emotions, sensations, pain, pleasure. You see, all these other emotions of anger and joy, the seeming good and the seeming bad, all that is included in perception.
Then we can go to the extent of saying that even my attention... I can keep attention on being itself. I can keep attention on being itself, but what does that mean? How would you know? If you know being, you know it's on being that my attention... on being, like resting. So, attention, just like my heart is, say, thirty percent on your feet and rest on being. You can see the sense of presence, the sense of I am this now. Just for now, let's even include that because even this sense of presence, we can say that I cannot really find the quality except the quality of being present. You see, like just present now. Let's for now include that also as a perception because we can say attention is on it, and anything that attention could be on, let's say that is the perception.
So, if we can't use a concept or any concept from the internet, and we can't use any perception, and see if this is all that the Self is, so what else is there? I don't think there is anything else. How do we come to know of it? And that is a conundrum, isn't it? Because everything that you can perceive comes and goes, and you can see that even about your being, there is the sleep state and you have the waking state. In the waking state, the sense that I am, a sense of being, faces up. Now, they say that everything that you perceive is ephemeral, ongoing, and we must look at reality, which is the unchanging, that does not come and go, is it? But now we've exhausted the usual means of finding that, or finding anything, which is on perception and our concepts. So, what else do we have?
So, let's look at it this way now. Suppose all perceptions are gone and all concepts are gone. There is complete silence. As you also left? You haven't left. Oh, you know that there is an awareness just here. It's something, just not a thing, but something just is. Now, who doesn't know that? Who doesn't know that, independent of all perception and independent of anything, then I am still here? They're using these terms just temporarily, but is this not clear that you are here? So, if all perception went one by one—sound went, sight and smell went, taste and touch went—which one would you go? And many of you had these, let's call them meditative experiences. Everything seems to dissolve, but you are. You are still there to have that experience. And many times you don't have a thought, but you were still there. So, that is still there. How is that known? Direct. It's very... so who doesn't have that? My mind doesn't have that, but you have it. You have it. How do you want to see? You are it. Done. Quite whatever to it, to put the word to which one? That I am it or...
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So, are you aware? Is it you or somebody else?
I do. So, how can we put a word to that? There is this I, which is the what? The I am? Okay, so you are... you're confused about whether you are aware? Otherwise, there is no... so that is clear. Okay. So, how is that you? On what basis? Certain presence? What is the presence of awareness like? So, but presence as the quality of presence, that being present, but this awareness is empty even of that quality. So, it's not a qualitative presence, and yet it is existing beyond these ideas of present and absent or existing and non-existing. And that'll be theoretical.
So, this 'I am aware' and you say there is no confusion that it is I which is the aware. If I call that Self, or if I say that I am aware, then whose would it be? Someone said it doesn't... they're not training on that, this or that. Yes. So, but how is that different from when you say, 'But it is clear that I am aware'? How come this awareness belongs to you? Are you starting to doubt that? Is it you who's starting to doubt? Not quite sure who is not sure. This is sure. You are not sure. You say, 'I'm not sure.' You're sounding pretty sure that you are not sure. So, who is aware of this unsureness?
I am.
Even so, that you are steering with this part can sound confusing to the mind, that you are aware of this unsureness. You see? How are you aware of that? That you are aware of this unsureness? Over... sure? So that you are aware of this position, or you are aware of perception itself? How are you sure about that? Where? But in the field... I have awareness within the field of awareness, you see. So, it's your awareness. And that is happening within me. Your awareness. Whose knowledge is that?
When I identified it as my knowledge.
When you identify it, it is whose knowledge? Otherwise, where in awareness, which is where... what relationship to that awareness? At with you? And how do you meet it?
I am it.
You are it. You see? So, that you are it, is that a claim that is coming from a thought? Like this thought, then 'I am it' and therefore you are it? Or is there something primal about... I can't put a word around it about how... yeah, don't know. Not about how, it is more about this. You see, I am it, is it? So, if we said that there is a sweet pineapple in the room outside, I mean, how you say that? We are... it's a perception. You may perceive a memory. But in this case, that you are it, not talking about the claim how you are able to say 'I am it', but the recognition that you are it. So, the recognition that you are it, is it on the basis of perception? Or is it on the basis of a thought or something that somebody told you? Or what is that?
It's independent of any of this.
Yes. And it is not a perception that you can't either. So, this doing, I haven't... did it have to be learned? Does it have to be picked up from somewhere? How did it come about that you can say 'I am not the same body'? This is the recognition part.
As always there, always.
So, that is Self-knowledge. Never pay attention, therefore. Now, this 'I' that paid attention or not, is that the same 'I' which is it? Negative. So, then this one is... who is that one? Because this one you're saying is awareness. You are this awareness. I haven't... now, the one that couldn't pay attention or not pay attention, what is that one? The one that is perceiving, the one that is in a deep depression? So, would you say that that is your being? Non-canonical. Okay. So, we are saying that the imagining one, the one that being takes itself to be, that 'I am something'. So, which one do you want to clear as now? Because this will be clear now, that you can play as something as a non-existent one, and we are going to familiar that position. And also we can see that this awareness, I haven't... there is no distance. There is coming and going of it. It is closer than intimacy. It is my own Self. Anything that relaxes, not as something that perceives another, not as something that is separate, something that's this, not business.
So, that's super easy. You don't have to take yourself to be anything. And you say that 'I am'. You don't have to see it to see that. Let... is it saying it feels very promise as it comes? The parade and the same of it, the same of it feels like it is arrogance again. Feels like an effort as opposed to saying there is something else just recognizing. Is that more stressful, more effortful than saying 'I am unwritten'? That's good, because sometimes it can feel like that to some. This will learn. But to say that 'I am that I am', that sounds so arrogant to say that 'I am Self'. Which one is more... or you can feel more screen? Doesn't... as long as it's not more screen than any of the right entity, then it's... then at least we are speaking now from something very direct. And of course, it cannot be calculated any speak. So, I understand what you're saying, which can be... okay, now that can be said, but I'm going to continue to feel okay with claiming identity.
So, this is investigation. And... are you aware? How did you know this? I don't know it. Only uses in battery. And this awareness or distance in which from you know... concept of distance is well, there is no separation between it and I. All of this is very different from my usual trainers because I usually change depend on just some conceptual knowledge or some perceptual experience. So, who here doesn't have this? Clear? Sorted.
Now, this is the single man. The tough part is: what does this mean? And mean for me now that the discovery is clear and it's super simple? Now, what for me? And on the basis of these kind of expectations, the bounce will come out. Is that where is my place? There is a band of something. Where is... I was promised so many things in spirituality. Parody. All the mind's big trump card, of course. But that is nothing. See, that is nothing. But that is the nothing you are after. If you're after truth, his infant son, you want a company of the truth, you want to be in truth, that is the nothing that you are after. That to which the mind is nothing. That to which the mind... that which is nothing is what? If the truth that we are talking about them since now, what is nothing to the mind is to be the same.
Some of this way, we were not in the broadcast, so he could delete some. He said that even the mind version of nothing is not nothing to the mind because for mind, nothing means empty. Empty of dark and empty, you know, all these ideas. Good. But that is something. What you see, you more nothing than that because even that is something. It is the opposite of full is empty, or the opposite of something is nothing. Think. And nothing is it. But that nothing is to define what is even more. What is silence? Noise, still something defined. What is even more? Action inside. If you just inside that silence resists, and those who could not speak will be automatically... that's not the case. So, that silence which is beyond silence, enemies or silence and words, but even that is too something to the mind. What do you move more not?
And I do we do Nativity like this, or you ask yourself: 'Are you aware now?' To come to the same. And this is very good to do it both ways because sometimes as you ask the question 'Are you aware now?', then the mind is also playing along saying, 'Is this your end? Is it very calm, all like empty space that you are entering, the black hole, something like that?' The tones of these peaks, just imagination. Nothing like that. Even more nothing than that. Just empty. Or even these bulletins, all these qualities. And then you say 'I am aware', you are not referring to any of these qualities unless you bought into some envisioning at that is you aware even of those. If you're looking at it like a big piece out of use, then you're aware even of that, isn't the fact which is the awareness? Does that look like counter space? The sound is still underwater today. Is it better now? What does it mean to be looked at? Okay, one's a lot better and one says on the basin. So, which carries end? Because there are two words now for its buildings. But whatever the sound might be, even if it sound, let him come at the flower, the point in...
So, some envisioning at that is you. Aware even of those. If you're looking at it like a big piece out of use, then you're aware even of that. Isn't the fact which is the West? Does that look like counter space? The sound is still underwater today. Is it better now? What does it mean to be looked at? Okay, one's a lot better and one says on the basin. So, which carries end? Because there are two words now for its buildings. But whatever the sound might be, even if it sound, let him come at the flower. The point in anything, right? So, don't focus so much on that. Just what is it when we come to this simple recognition: I am aware. This is the self-knowledge which is just fine, bonding, present. And we will do all. It is not making any distinction between the accomplished spiritual seeker and the first one asking this bit. And all I'm doing is pointing out the tips and the trump cards of the mind as you are coming to this very simple recognition.
And one of the victim cards is that it is nothing. What did you find? Nothing. Oh, what's the big deal in that? It could also mean: how will your life change now? Nothing happened. Where is the bliss to the after-effects on the bio-power? But if you really in such-and-such Sun, which is to come to the truths, you see, or being with the truths, then that is all there is here. That is all there is. This is super, super simple. Simpler than simple. And that doesn't need one, one iota of effort of any sort.
Now, what do we use to verify this? It will go to the mind and say, 'Hey, he's saying is that something to find beauty? Or do you feel?' The mind will assume. It might say, 'I do it with some time.' Is a variable in the variable. What did you actually find it? This comes from the mind cannot interpret this. And was a mission in history in which it can't interpret anything, was it? It is now a valid representation of even the tiniest aspect of the manifest, forget the unmanifest. If we did, then no two would have differing opinions. Anybody would say, 'This is what everything.' There would be no such thing as a debate or argument because it... but because we are not able to dominate anything through this instrument, that's why this world is so much confusion and suffering. Deviant argument about everything. There is no area of the world which is not debatable because no concept actually really catches anything. So, neither is it a valid depletion or language appearance, and of course, it is completely far-out when it comes to the victim, that which is beyond appearing and disappearing.
So, what is our end goal? Is it to satisfy this intellect, this one? Because that is the trend rule that you can run on for away. So, the end goal is to satisfy the spine? Then the mind is designed to, in a way, designed to misrepresent both appearance and the reality in which have to fit. Okay, so what is the end goal? We'll ask first. First thing when I came to something so... could give up on understanding what the border wall that you give up one of the mind. Is it that suppose you had a device, new devices like Alexa, and you had Alexa which was always around? So, for everything, but none of its answers were accurate. So now, does Alexa have to now give up on time to represent the world, or you have to give up on Alexa? When you that and it starts giving the right answer, please keep quiet. Yeah, like that. Or you say, 'Okay, that one just misrepresenting the world. Good.' Or is it is not pointing to any clothes? It's not pointing to any accuracy, any validity.
And the example is not as strange as the Nissan because at best, mind is like this device. It is a bundle of concepts, a bundle of Thomas to then answer to program question. That's called conditioning. So, when will we be free of condition? When we can let go anything the mind might be representing as truth. But actually, now we have seen that it is a pretty terrible job of representing truths. And other thing you recognize that I am the truth which is beyond any representation.
Let's look at a question. It says, 'This is so simple and obvious. A doubt comes up: is this all there is? Which is also witnessed.' So, let's meet here because this is very good you brought this up, because this is very, very common doubt. Is that it? I guess that it. But that one which has is down which say, 'If that it, I had no experience of it,' you see. And sometimes in Satsang, I see is that it is like the one who has never entered the logo is he is saying, 'Oh, the model idea is that small? Is that it?' Hey, so that which is your recognition, but the mind, which is just a bundle of concepts, has had no insight about it. It only claims to represent that which is phenomenally perceivable. So, it has had no experience, in a way, of it. But that is the one which is saying, 'But is that it?'
So, somebody comes and says, 'Oh, mango and not agree.' And you say, 'No, no, have you seen some YouTube about it?' So, will that be a creative voice that you can trust when it comes in there? But that's it. So, what is the trouble then? Because these things are very obvious. It's just that they used to listen to this bodies. We got used to listen to this word. So, it seems like it is a valid voice to listen. And that is the reduction that when Guruji calls on the rehab, that is the addiction to which God has made a rehab. So, that if the first part is: is this all there is, which is also witness? Is the mind playing another trick here? Am I being lazy? And no, in fact, this leaves here than lazy. And again, I'm not talking about any outdoor activity. How that activity can be lazy or full of vibrancy, but inwardly and fertile beyond and me a fool. So, easier than you. Is there any science through which I can for sure, you know for sure? Then the mind can never know. So, it is quickly again a question of where are you placed in the 'I'?
You have always known. Atma Gyan, self-knowledge, is not something that comes and goes. You have always known this truth. Everyone knows it. It is clear to area is it. But it is only that the representation pie is on this bundle of thoughts which has all these various claims, which makes it all seem very confusing. So, that one can never know for sure because that one can only act based, come up with limited representations of that which is perceivable. That which is impossible it can really never represent, not even inaccurately. Then this as you want to come up with, you can come.
Okay, might become here some word I write there we are or something like this. So, the story... I just need some, you know, some some light on some things here. So, I'm still in some kind of panic attack at the moment, but a little bit. What is them? So, I just before you start that, that looks like the situation with Mum. And when I'm doesn't the panic attack, it's not about that, it's about something else. Okay, so the situation is, but it was very clear that Mum will not live so much longer anymore. And we actually, we... it's a situation, it's really very much enjoying my time and so I kind of, I get attached to that, you know. And on the side I'm talking he done actually I'm so exhausted, my body goes to some changes also, you know, and I'm really on the edge.
But I don't want to miss my time with her. It's just like that. But I kind of, you know, in between I just need some rest. So, I cannot tell this situation is so beautiful and horrible at the same time. I never was in the situation like that before. And then, you know, I have the invitations were to come to Sahaja Yoga, one Sangha gathering. It's only one month from now and I truly mean you want to go. I never wanted so much to go there and at the same time I will not be able to thank you know, one big story years, but I cannot leave my mom alone. I just... it breaks, I can't tell you. Oh, she's like, she's like a child, just so beautiful. And she's so much more relaxed when I world. She's so happy when I'm around. Sometimes she isn't them sad, you know, where she's not where you cannot reach out to her. She's just so exhausted from Dionysius them. So, she's not you, she's not able to realize anymore where she is.
Um, you know, but so this is just the situation how it is. And because of that, because I'm so weak, you know, so exhausted, so this funny on everything, you know, when something so many other things that are happening, you know, like just before a minute before that Sun started, you know, just panic attacks are coming. I know this, you know, it's just I'm used to this. And when I'm exhausted it's just like this. It's not just coming speak this all and especially you know this attachment month and this that I don't know, you know, I just want to leave everything I'm... but I'm not leaving it at the moment. It's just I'm just holding onto it like it and I also see I cannot do anything about it like it is. I just sometimes it's so very clear, you know, and I'm again and again leaving it, leaving Mama, you know, and for G speed and leaving the house. I just mean if I can go or not, but I... my heart says I will stay with her, you know. She's the reason why I actually went. Yeah, without this is such a blessing and told me I know I'm talking nonsense. It's intense attachment there and I'm playing myself because I just want you and sometimes most of the time action I think I don't know doesn't alright just you know when I'm with her I'm so relaxed Rosa even when when the things are coming up it's mostly night you know I'm waking up and actually I have the feeling I'm feeling her you know I'm not sure but it's my stuff the only thing I can do I'm just praying all the time for fine well I'm not I cannot you it's like I never left I'm just asking.
I mean to me it's easy, you know, as you seen this also reminded that a couple of others and on those similar situations with varying degrees where their parents are in difficult healths. At least as you say in some, some of course most importantly is all the bad lessons, all the husbands. And I'm sure that duty is completely with you through all this time and His grace will unfold. So, don't have to worry about how it will happen, will happen or not. It's all is to take care of. I did notice a few things and I'm glad you exposed all of this and just to remind you that don't make a mean harsh statement about yourself in these times, okay? 'I'm just very attached.' It's okay. Everything to the other day you saying that when we see 'I am just very attached,' for example, you're already saying that I am not that isn't so. It's already coming from a place of recognition. So, don't worry, you don't have to try and get rid of any attachment. It's nothing. It's much simpler than that. Don't worry about any of that.
And so, don't worry about how it... 'I saw Tom attached to our.' Don't worry about whether you get to go to Sahaja or not. And don't worry that your brothers don't have these beliefs. That is just not possible. Everyone has good genes whether in their expression they recognize it or not, it doesn't matter. So, guru blip algorithm is operational. I know you don't have to have neither sort of commitment to master to get this grace to so-and-so. If it's very good that you're letting it all will flow out because these times are bound to be like this where the doctor is spared or maybe your concluding that she does not have too much too long to go. On some grief is very natural to come and sometimes if it is not coming that social too because don't beat yourself up I believe because when these situations happen I get both the reports that one is that I'm feeling too much grief and the others are reporting feeling guilty that how come I'm not feeling grief, I should be. So, either way is okay and don't judge anything harshly, especially yourself. It's all so playing out as it is meant to be and everything is taken care of. And if this is what the panic attacks look like, you can have that.
I just want to say that I'm not so much at myself anymore. It's a lot better, you know. I when I see it that I'm harsh it comes down. So, when I say I'm, you know, there's attachment that's it's just like that. It is just how it is. I mean it's not a bad thing as such as I used to to think and feel about myself and really I was really yeah I was damaging myself befo
It's all so playing out as it is meant to be and everything is taken care of. And if this is what the panic attacks look like, you can have that. I just want to say that I'm not so much at myself anymore. It's a lot better, you know. When I see it, that I'm harsh, it comes down. So when I say I'm, you know, there's attachment, that's it. It's just like that. It is just how it is. I mean, it's not a bad thing as such as I used to think and feel about myself. And really, I was really, yeah, I was damaging myself before. It's really very short term sometimes this happens, but I get, you know, it's not so bad.
If you look at what we call conditioning, what is it actually? Let's take an example of conditioning. What is it? And we say conditioning or vaasanas. What does it contain? It contains a collection of judgments, values: this is good, this is bad, this is right, this is wrong, this should be this way, this should not be this way. That's all that person is made of. And because nothing is inherently that way, that's why every so-called individual is unique. Because if things were inherently that real, then it would be apparent to everyone and there would never be a disagreement. But the problem only is that all of us have our own unique collection of what we think is good and what is right and what is wrong. And that is what conditioning is made up of. That's what seems to be uniquely playing out in so many expressions.
Then this goes on. But what was it like before you had these ideas? Was it long before you had any of these ideas? And is that so different from what is just here right now? And this so-called return to the innocence, is it difficult or it's just here right now? We have to look at the world through a lens with our ideas of right and wrong, good and bad. We are now so much hostage to them. So much hostage to them. It's really, we are hostage. This comes: 'This is good, this is how things should be.' My mind says so. Or: 'This is not good, this is not how it should be.' We are really, really hostage to these fleeting ideas which come and go. Because one, they are not consistent, because you could have the opposite thought tomorrow about the same event. And the play of uniqueness, the consciousness, everyone is representing everything differently.
So where to find this truth? In our judgments, in our claims? Or in that which is beyond these tiny claims and tiny judgments? Because we have confused these judgments to be knowledge. So far, nothing we talked about was true knowledge. Now let's look a bit at what is called ignorance or false knowledge. Ignorance: we have confused our interpretations of the world to be the truth. And we have not gained anything out of that. We only found misery. We have not found any iota of peace in our judgment. The universal righteousness, we only found misery. Because life will dance in every way. It is all that is, so it dances in every way. But if we are tied to just this aspect or that aspect and say, 'This should not happen, only this should happen,' then that is why life actually seems like that for you. What is it not for another? Maybe it is different. Life in itself is not a syndrome. It is how we interpret it that makes it seem like some experiences that you are trying to avoid, another may be welcoming. And that which you are welcoming, another may be avoiding.
So to return to this innocence, to return to this simplicity, it's the simplest thing because it already is here now. You have two invitations. One is the invitation from the voice of your own inner Satguru saying, 'Stay as this, empty of notions and judgments.' And the other invitation is from the mind saying, 'Come, come on the peak. I will tell you what is right and wrong, what is good and bad.' This invitation, it will tell you, it says, 'But if it was like this for me, then it would be better for me.' But that one which is making that invitation does not have your interest. So examine yourself and see: are you that powerless, that weak, that you are having to dance to the tunes of these tiny bits of thoughts which are saying, 'Right, not right'? Are you being hostage to them?
It is only what you take yourself to be, your identity, which is not just hostage to that, but it is made up of them. It is made up of all this. But all this is thinkable. So as long as you, consciousness, take yourself to be that limited identity, it can seem like these are valid representations of truth. But once you step back from that identity and see yourself as you are, then you will see that none of this... it is like tiny grains of sand. Tiny grains of sand mean nothing for the timeless one. All these interpretations and judgments have nothing to do with your reality. It will come to nothing tonight in sleep. Still, in this universe, what will you do without it? I mean, at the end of this life, absence of any perceivable universe, what is the value of all that you take to be true?
What is that truth which may not leave you even if the whole universe dissolves? And this truth is the simplest to find, simpler than finding. It is you. It is that which has started it all. You are that light in which the light of this universe takes birth. That which gives light to even your existence, to consciousness. But what we take ourselves to be is just a tiny coming and going. And this representation of yourself is so far from yourself that in your heart you are aware of this great contradiction. And that is why it seems like, 'I am softly like that actor who was given a role, but then something still bothers me.' Something doesn't feel right about this. Doesn't feel complete somehow. I try and do a better and better job. I try to make this world see I am giving it my best shot, but something doesn't fit still. Because the truth is here. The fountain of concepts about a 'me' which never existed is in an attempt to make this work individually. So it insists on you realizing that all of this house of cards can be blown away.
So you have my invitation to just remain empty of any idea about yourself. And it is the simplest, most effortless. Or you'll have the mind's invitations in perpetuity about how to live this life, what is right, what is wrong. You as consciousness, what is your will? How would you like to play? Yes, this is the story of the garden. Didn't it sound like that? It is we who get caught in our good and bad. That's conditioning, ignorance in the garb of knowledge. This limits this beautiful garden and makes it a war zone. And it's two sides, duality. What is here now, being as consciousness, has God become so powerless that it is now dancing to the tunes of its own tiny aspect? Is this reality?
Thank you all so much for being in satsang. Mooji Baba Ki Jai. Jai Guru. Om Shanti Shanti Shanti.