This Is Where You Keep Your Vantage Point - 20 Apr 2015

So I don't want you to come up here saying, 'Oh Father, Consciousness has this question for Consciousness.' We can speak normally in conversation; it's completely fine. Only you can say, 'I have this question,' but don't take this concept of 'I' seriously. You must by now have seen that this person is just fiction, just fiction. Only Consciousness is moving everything. So we don't need to provide that label before everything now. We can just be very natural in our approach. And this is what we mean when we say you must have a strong nose for it now. This is what vigilance means. Vigilance is not something very complicated; it's not a restrictive space. Vigilance only means just once in a while keep checking: what are you speaking as? What are you believing? Just have a strong smell for it and see whether you have picked up the imagined voice again. We imagine the voice claiming to be your voice, which is the voice of this imagined person.

And it's very beautiful when you are smelling from your own heart. Your nose about personhood is actually very strong, very highly developed. Is this coming from this sense of being a person? Does it rely on the person concept? That's what you have to smell for. And then you will find that no thought is worthy of your belief, you see? Because many times there's this resistance: 'But I have good thoughts. They are useful to me. Why should I not believe them?' All that is good, all that is true, all that is auspicious does not need to rely on any thought. It needs no crutches. The bird does not need to carry a heavy rock to fly. But it is the voice of this rock which convinces it, or tries to convince it, that 'You have to take me along. I am useful for you.' The bird is flying right now and the rock is saying, 'Oh, but I'm still here.' So let the stone be wherever it is. You cannot be bound by it. You cannot even be weighed down by it. Just let it be now.

Which voice are you going to pick up? Which voice are you going to pick up next? Are you still going to pick up the person's voice, or will you speak from what you truly are? And this voice of your own intuition is available for all of you. Speak as the Satguru himself. This is the voice of your purity. It needs nothing; it wants nothing. There is actually nothing that the world needs from you, from me. The world needs nothing. But if there was something that the world could need, I feel that there is nothing more auspicious than for you to drop this personal voice. I feel there is nothing more auspicious than for you to drop this personal voice. And if any words have to come, let them be from your heart, from your being, from your presence. So if there is anything that the world needs, let it be that millions of you are now speaking the voice of this heart, of this being.

Maharaj himself said many years ago that when we read the Gita, why do we read it from Arjuna's perspective always? These words I bring up often in satsang because they had some strong impact here. We read the scripture or the Gita, then why do we always read it from the seeker's perspective? Can we not read it as Krishna? What Krishna is saying, not exactly what your own heart is saying, what your own intuition is saying? And if it is silent, trust this silence also. And trust this silence because silence is the beautiful communion. The mind is scared of any emptiness. Don't be fearful of any silence, because this fear will lead you towards grasping for the mind again. It will make you a seeker again. It only will feel like you are falling. You are not really falling. It might seem like you are falling. So used to the crutches are we, the crutches of the mind.

If when I say drop them, it might feel like for a moment or two that you don't have the stability to stand, but actually what is happening is you are shaping up to fly. So don't be too quick to pick up these crutches again. 'Oh, but I was falling. I followed what you said, but maybe I'm not ready. I was falling.' You were not falling. There is no way you can fall. So don't be so quick to pick up the mind and say, 'See how horrible your life will become if you leave me.' The mind comes with all of this. Just let it be. Can we let it be? Don't be scared, because it is only this fear of falling which gets to you. And very quickly, what Amaya said was, 'I see this a lot. For instance, the body is naturally on its way to lie down. No commentary needed. But the voice says, "I think I'll lie down now."' Yes, thought not relevant to anything happening. Drop it. Very true, very true.

And Jai says, 'No voice.' Yes, this neutrality of no voice is very beautiful. And if there's no voice, and then if you're not falling prey to the temptations of the mind's magnetism, then you will see that automatically there are words emerging from your heart. They seem to use your mouth as an instrument. They will use your words; they will use your tongue and mouth as an instrument. Then you see that this body is now in service to the Satguru in the heart. Because you know that these are just emerging, so there will be no specialness or arrogance. You will not say they are mine; you will say that they are emerging from me. And also you will not have any false humility. All humility is as much trouble as arrogance. Using this body as an instrument, then you will not go around saying, 'No, no.' You will not make excuses for this. You don't need to become sheep, you see? The Satguru in your heart is roaring like a lion. You don't have to conform to the world's views and bleat like a goat or a sheep. No arrogance and no false humility also, you see? Because the false humility also comes from the mind. 'What will people think? I don't want to be seen as a guru.' Who? Again, who is I?

In a beautiful way this will unfold. Like I said, if there is anything that the world needs, it needs millions of you to speak from this voice of your own intuition without falling into any traps from the mind. See, because I noticed that some resistance might be coming up for some of us saying that, 'Oh, there are so many other teachers now. Everybody is getting blessings to speak and hear like this sometimes. So many now. Do they really know?' Forget about them. You speak from there. The world needs that. Don't get into this quicksand of the mind, you see? Very quick to judge, to complain, to question even the masters. Will you speak as the Satguru? I will have my head bowed down to you. I'm waiting for that. And in this realm, I know that this has never happened. In this realm, I know that this has never happened. The greatest sages and the greatest masters have come and gone, but only a handful they left behind who carried the light. But does this mean that it is not possible here? And even if it was only to be a handful, then is it not this handful which is listening now?

It is the simplest thing. There is nothing you have to do. When your heart is silent, then you are silent. When your heart is speaking, then you are speaking, you see? It's only seen, not easy. If you're picking up a personal voice, speak as your being. Speak as your being. Don't pick up the perspective of the person. And if there's something strong, if you feel that something is still strongly getting your belief, I'm very open. That's what satsang is for. You can expose that. We can share that. I'm not suggesting that you are in denial. You must not come into denial. If you still feel that something still strongly gets my belief, expose it as we have been doing for the last year and a half, or as long as we've been having satsang. We've been having this process where many of you have come and exposed that these things are still getting my belief, and most of you are now over them, isn't it? So this fire is here and it is waiting. Something needs to be thrown into it, it can be. But if you want to speak as the fire itself, that is also very beautiful.

If you want to be on camera... my mind I've just noticed recently has been saying all that you need, kind of in a subtle way, but 'You need me to figure out how to make money.' And I can see there's just been, you know, more mind activity around that recently. And so when I go with thought, I can see there's some... it's just a bit sticky, and that's where there's been maybe some...

Something needs to be thrown into it, it can be. But if you want to speak as the fire itself, that is also very beautiful. If you want to be on camera... I've just noticed recently, the mind has been saying all that you need, kind of in a subtle way, but: 'You need me to figure out how to make money.' And I can see there's just been more mind activity around that recently. So when I go with thought, I can see it's just a bit sticky, and that's where there's been maybe some activities. I can see it's trying to suggest for me.

And this is exactly the reason why we keep sharing that the mind will pull these tricks. They'll be about relationship, they'll be about body, they'll be about money or security, and they will be about freedom as a seeker identity. Only these three or four things. And money is a strong one, especially for someone who's come to a new country living here, you know? So it can try to push this button: 'Oh, what about the money? You need me for this.' It's a pretty clear trick. Don't you see already that the one that it is talking to, the person, does not exist? And it is God himself who is doing all of this. So who's this advice for? It is always for an individual, you see. The mind never presumes to be advising God on what to do next; it's always advising the individual.

That's why I say that it's not about making money or not making money. See, it's not about 'we must do the opposite of what the mind is saying.' That also becomes then a mind trick. It's just the neutrality and letting it flow. So, like all of you know that I have my own business as well, and thoughts come like this: 'What's going to happen with the money?' and things like this. But I find that things automatically... I mean, if they have to move, they just move, or they don't. So there are some initiatives which don't do well at all, and some that do exceedingly well, but there is no fear of any outcome. There's no resistance either way to do an action or to not do something. Slowly you find Life Energy is there; something is moving on its own.

This is another misconception that many can have: 'Okay, he is now sharing satsang, then he'll only be interested in sharing satsang.' It's not like this. Yesterday on the flight back home, I was reading a book about growth hacking. I don't know if any of you are familiar with this term. You move like this also. Consciousness is complete freedom to move in any way. This sense of 'I need to do this' or 'What's going to happen?' or 'I better not do this' or 'Will I lose my spirituality if I'm reading a book about business?'—all of this rubbish is not there. Life is doing exactly what life is doing. I see no trouble with this. As long as we're not picking up the personal identity, then there will be no trouble.

I heard from one of my teachers once very beautifully, and that stayed with me because I needed to hear it at that point of time, that those who are true in their search for freedom, true to themselves, they will never have a need; they will never face a lack of anything in their lives. So with this promise of the Master, I have been completely satisfied since then. And many of you know there was a time where there was lots of money in the bank; there are times where there's 18 rupees in the bank. It actually happened like this. There was actually 18 rupees in the bank once. No trouble. It's not your problem; it is God's something to do.

See, in this state of neutrality, you find one day there's so much energy to do some work, to start sessions, and that is good. If there is none, then stay with this also. Say, 'Yes, there is none, it's fine.' You cannot get on this treadmill which constantly wants you to run every day because you never know. You find that in the spaces where there is no Life Energy for something to move, and then after this space is gone, there could be Life Energy which is of a different quality, at a different level, with a different agenda almost. So trust this ebb and flow. Just let everything be exactly as it is.

We are not talking about maintaining some sort of status quo when we're saying this. We let everything be exactly as it is; we're not talking about forcefully trying to maintain a status quo, you see. Just keep it... everything should be... not like I think, just whatever is appearing. Even the actions which are appearing from your body, through your body, let them also flow very naturally. And satsang is a beautiful space for you to explore this aspect of yourself, you see, because the world usually does not give us these spaces. You have to conform to certain ways. If you're in a relationship, you have to be a certain way. If you're in a work environment, you have to be a certain way. Everywhere that we go, even outside, if you're in a restaurant, you have to be a certain way. If you're walking on the street, you have to be a certain way.

Satsang is the place where you can explore this aspect of yourself. Leave your body completely free. You don't have to pretend to be propping it up in any way. So if it's falling forward, if it's crying, let it cry. If it's screaming, if anger is coming, let it happen. If laughter is coming, let it happen. And you will find that you can trust this. Once you explore it here, you can find that you can trust this. And this is the one that is taking care of life completely, always has been, not some make-believe idea of yourself.

So he said, my Master at that time, he said that all your needs will be taken care of, but your greeds are another matter altogether. So you will find that there's always food on your plate, there is always some way to sleep. All the needs are taken care of. And our needs actually are very little. What does one really need? If you would look like that, the needs are very little. But it is this mind greed which wants more and more and more. This one can never be satisfied. This is the endless pit. So the billionaires and the trillionaires, they want more money. Shouldn't there be satisfaction? Ones who have come to satsang, they found the freedom, they want more freedom. They found, 'Okay, right now there's complete freedom,' but shouldn't there be something more? Still the same voice. We find perfect partners, relationships—'Can we just change it a little bit? Hello, I love you, but you know, this part of you, can we just tweak that a bit and then you will be perfect?' Oh, this is the same voice. More and more, a little more.

Okay, someone had said, 'Your words are pure nectar.' Simple, easy love you. Love you too, my dear. Yesterday I watched a video of Guruji where he says, 'Expose the exposer.' It's very good. And Bhagavati says, 'Father, I know everything you are saying to be true.' Thank you, my dear. Let me see you. There you are. I would speak to you.

Oh, my voice is working. I have had only a squeak for the past 24 hours. I don't have much voice. That's how I have enough. Everything you say is true, but really doesn't need fixing, doesn't connect to the consciousness that is... you want to be on the camera? It's okay. You mean okay either way. Well, sometimes you get on the collective unconsciousness. Collective unconsciousness of the world. Then you see, this is very bad news for the world. But for Earth, Mother Earth is suffering. People are killing Mother Earth. Poisonous chemicals like the big five, America, Monsanto, many. And people are dying because of that. There is so much of... and when you know more and more and more, you hear about reptilians, they ignore planet Earth. It's very frightening with all that is. And satsang, you don't care because you know that's illusion and it's a play of life and you know things will be taken care of. How evil collective unconsciousness is at the moment.

So actually, I get these questions quite often, but I have never found a sense of dichotomy with what we are saying and what the world needs. See, the mind comes and says, 'Okay, all this is fine, what about the world?' Anytime you also hear about, 'Oh, but what about the starving children? What about all this is happening?' Like you said, that all these chemicals and all this is being done, the Earth is being killed. So I'm saying that if there is a knowledge which comes from your heart that you must serve in this way, this is very good. It's very good. And if this urge is coming, even then be vigilant to the sense of specialness: 'I am doing something for the world.'

See, many times what happens... I used to run this foundation actually, which used to take care of medical needs of underprivileged children. And when I used to go for these conferences where many who were in this space of serving the world would come, I would say I would get the smell of the personal specialness. 'Look at this world, they're just interested in making money, but we are really changing the world' or something. So this became a lot about personal glory for many people. If the urge is there, let it be this pure urge and serve the world, but don't pick up again this idea of personal specialness. And also don't pick up the idea or judgment that 'Shouldn't you be doing more? You'll be doing...' No, no. You do your bit. You be the inspiration which will get hundreds to follow. These are some tips I have to give you if you are interested in that kind of work. Then just let it again be offered up. The body be offered up as an instrument to God and let the Life Energy move it in this way.

But I have something even higher that I want to tell you. Something even higher, which is that when we are talking about freedom from suffering, we want to help the world because it is suffering. But there is nobody who is free from suffering unless they really truly realize what they are. Okay? You could have all the material things, their life could be surrounded by the greatest material things that you could have, but are they free from suffering? And we have these conceptions that 'I know what is best for them.' We have these conceptions.

So there was once a time where I was doing an ashram and we had lots of food left over. Maybe all the people that were supposed to come did not come. Thousands of people were expected. I was in the cooking seva one year, so there were huge amounts of food which were left over. And some of us felt that rather than just wasting this food... there was a construction of a temple being built in this ashram. So we said, 'Let's carry this food and give it to the workers over there because they must be hungry, they are workers.' So then we felt, 'Yes, yes, what a wonderful thing to do and we must do it.' So we walked for about one hour carrying all these heavy buckets and all of this food. And we got there and we said, 'You know, we got all this food for you,' expecting great gratitude and big hugs for doing all this seva. And we got there and these guys just held their lunchbox and said, 'No, we are done. We just ate.'

So the mind actually does not... it creates concepts that we feel that we know what another needs. So then can I tell you something that everyone needs? Because if there is freedom from suffering that you want to give to the world, then everyone needs to drop this idea of being a person. Because this is the everlasting... then it doesn't matter whether he is a beggar on the road or he is sitting in a palace, he cannot suffer. He loses the ability to suffer. And how will you give this to them? How will you give this gift to them? You will give this gift to them by first being completely free of your own. Because the world does not need more words, actually; it needs to see the possibility. So all of you have the potential to show the world the possibility of this freedom from suffering. And then you will find that in your presence many beings are touched by your presence and are getting free of their suffering. To make it free of suffering, first find it, because it's not just in the world. So you could hear the word and you could...

Gift to them by first being completely free of your own, because the world does not need more words actually; it needs to see the possibility. So all of you have the potential to show the world the possibility of this freedom from suffering. And then you will find that in your presence many beings are touched. By your presence, they are getting free of their suffering. To make it free of suffering, first find it, because it's not just in the world. So you could hear the words and you could speak them, but they will not be touched by your presence, you see? And without being touched by your presence, then it doesn't work. It is first touched by some presence and then there is the openness for the words. So it's not work. So the mind will say, 'Yes, yes, I must do this,' but it's not work. All that is required is for you not to believe your next thought. The third will come and that's it, or something like that. Given this one, this is how you can serve the world now. And then you will not have any judgments about who's coming to your presence also. Anybody can come and take a dip from your presence and feel like they found some peace.

But a lot of times you will have this assumption that the poor in the world are suffering more. And I can tell you firsthand, having worked in the urban slums of Ejipura in Bangalore, which is one of the biggest slums that you will see, and also having seen villages because my family comes from a small village, that people in the slums and people in villages are smiling a lot more than people who are sitting in the offices and making much more money. They're having much more, much more joyous lives. I mean, it's only our mind which comes and says, 'But they don't have this and they don't have that,' but they are much more joyful. I've seen on average—of course, in every sphere there will be trouble, there will be suffering which comes—but I'm saying that on average. So then we will not say that my work is only for the poor, my work is only for the rich, because everyone needs this medicine. This medicine of getting free from this sense of ego and this sense of arrogance of specialness.

Karna says, 'Namaste, Father. Can I come up next? I wanted to expose a few things. Thank you.' You can comment here, of course. Um, Father, there's so much of things going on inside. I don't know what to say now. I don't know exactly. I don't know if the mind is picking up anything to say. It's picking up like creating suffering. I'm not sure. Definitely there is something wrong, right? I thought I feel I want to say anything I told you appropriate and also I had a—sorry, can you hear me now?

Yes, I can hear now, but am I having trouble to understand your words? I got that you had some sort of trouble with who this morning?

With my dad. I was talking to him and, yeah, my father. And then the conversation regarding something he had a vision about or something. And you know, something came up here that I might lose him or something like that. Then I start crying and after that I don't know what happened. Then I did some meditation also, but there's something which I don't know. There's so much confusion about what I have to do. I have no idea what is going on. For confusion, and I don't know, Father, it's driving me crazy. I'm just tired of everything. I feel like I don't want to do anything. I'm just hopefully surrendered to anything what you want. I can't say this, I really can't take this. There's a lot of things coming up about the future. How I'm going to take care of my daughter? What if my dad is not with me? How I'm going to live alone by myself? All these thoughts are coming and then at the same time there is, 'Okay, you don't have to believe all these things. It's okay, it's your thoughts.' Okay, you know, I'm just getting this complex sentence. I'm tired. I don't want to do anything.

Meditation yesterday, this Mooji's guided meditation for the first time. For the first time, I felt something like, okay, the presence is just here. All these days I was thinking the presence is in the body, but for the first time I experienced it's like—but the mind was telling, 'You can't see that, so it doesn't exist.' Then I thought, 'Okay, mind, what I'll tell you?' There's also this today you've talked about that also. The voice is coming up saying the good thing is about it, it's going to do this, do that. Then again, follow this voice. It's guiding me nowhere. I'm trying to stop the voice, it's becoming more frustration. I don't want to do anything. I'm just tired of this. It's done. I have no idea what I'm talking to you. I don't understand. Genius or something, mind is making us even better. I don't want to fight with you. Thank you, Father.

There is some disturbance coming from your end, so you're muted for some time, but you can listen. I will respond to what you say. You can speak after that. You know, when most of the world hears things like, 'I'm tired of everything,' you know, somebody comes and says, 'I'm just tired of everything, I don't feel like doing anything, I don't even feel like living anymore,' you know, when we say these kind of things, then in most of the world this sounds like terrible news, you see? But when someone comes to Satsang and says, 'I'm completely tired of everything, I don't feel like anything,' it is music to my ears because you must get tired like this. This tiredness is very good, you see? This is Ram's tiredness.

Any of you might not have heard of this scripture, but there's a beautiful scripture called the Yoga Vashistha. And it's unique because in this case it is the Avatar of Vishnu himself who also was conditioned because he got human form. So after God himself was conditioned in this human form, in the Yoga Vashistha, Guru Vashistha actually speaks with Ram and how Ram realizes his true nature. But if you were to read the Yoga Vashistha, the first chapter is all about this: how Ram is completely tired of this life. He's a prince, he's got everything, everything that you could hope for he has, but he says, 'What is the point of this even pleasure? What is the point? This life, what is the point?' And he talks about desire. He talks about when you're children you want something, you want toys. When you're in teenage then you have these bodily desires. When you grow older then you have more desire for security, money, all of these things. When you're dying then you're worried about the body all of the time. So he goes through life like this very beautifully and he says, 'I'm just so tired. I don't see a point to all of this. What is really going on?'

See, and in this tiredness, in this giving up, is actually the giving up of this sense of controlling life, isn't it? Because we give up this sense that 'I want to do something' because we see that death is inevitable. We find that death is inevitable. So Ram says, 'What is the point to all of this? And I'm very tired and I don't want to do anything at all.' In fact, before that, the story is that his father is very concerned about him. His father Dashrath is very concerned about Ram because he's showing no interest in any sort of activity. So this dispassion is very beautiful because this gives you the openness to listen, to hear everything. This gives you the openness to the presence. Otherwise, if the mind is saying, 'I can do this on my own, I can make it happen, my life will be better,' all of this, then we're still counting on the person idea to do something, still counting on the imagined one to get you somewhere. Once you've seen through all of this and you say, 'I'm just tired of this game, I'm completely tired of this game,' then for me this voice is music. It is very good.

And with this now you're already saying that you did a guided meditation with Moojiji and you experienced something. You saw that beingness is not related to the body; the body comes later, see? So all these insights are now starting to flower in you because you are not so attached to what the mind is saying and the promises of the mind. So this tiredness is very good. And 'don't know anything' is good. 'You don't know what to do' is also good. Nobody ever knows; only we are pretending. What is happening is always just happening. Everybody is just pretending to say that we know what we are doing. Nobody knows. I don't know what's going to happen in the next moment, what word will come from this mouth, what question will come from there. I know nothing and I'm not concerned about any future. So don't let the mind come and say that this is terrible. I am telling you that it is great news. Get tired of this world. Enough of this game. And then you will discover the truth of what you are. You're already discovering already.

Ram says, 'It seems like you're talking about me, Father.'

It's always—all of this is about you. All of this is about you. Okay, I'm not sure what I read last on YouTube. Let me pick it up right from the bottom now. Tina said, 'Although I still don't trust that without using my mind I will be able to heal my body. I use it, for example, to research about my health issues and follow the suggestions regarding diet, and individually fitting nutrition is important. And I feel I need to read, to research, and to experiment in order to learn about what's good for me and what's not. How to do this without using my mind?'

Yes, maybe here there is some confusion about the definition of the mind. See, some difference maybe there in the definition of what you are calling mind and what I am connecting when I use the term mind. I am referring to mind just as a bundle of thoughts. The mind is just a bundle of thoughts and similar energies like imagination, memories—these type of energies. So the mind actually is not a tangible entity. Being is what you can call the phenomenal, the immaculate phenomenal entity—the only entity, if there is one, that exists. So what you are saying is that the mind is doing all of this, and I am saying the mind is just this energetic coming and going of thoughts. You, in this phenomenal way, are the beingness itself, are Consciousness itself. And Consciousness is doing all of this, including understanding more about the body, how it would be used. All of this is part of the play. It can continue to happen as long as you are not giving belief to the concept that this is a person's body. Then Consciousness itself is taking care of it in this way.

So some, it will take care of in this way; for others, it will go to hospitals; for others, it doesn't need to do anything. All of that is fine as long as you are not picking up the imagined phenomena, the imagined personal identity. Then none of this is any trouble. But the mind is not the doer of anything. The mind has no understanding also; it is just a bundle of thoughts. You know, all these powers of belief and attention and knowledge and understanding, all of this comes from you as Consciousness. Nothing about this is personal. It's only that as Consciousness you have the power to believe that you are a person.

So this is just like I was saying that I was reading a business book on the flight back from Pune. I was reading a business book and you are reading a book about health. I see no trouble with any of this. It is the mind itself saying, 'Oh, this is the mind, I need the mind.' See, that is the troublemaker. What will happen is that you will lose the fear about the outcome, you see? If you're doing it personally, then there will be fear about outcome. 'Oh, I did this and I had this alternative medicine and this is what I took, but my condition is not getting better.' You know, all of this will not be possible. You will see all of it—the reading about it, the treatment, and the outcome—you will see all of it as the play of Consciousness itself. It's all the movie which is being played for you. You will not be able to give it the seriousness of saying it is happening to me, because it is not happening to you. You are the light in which all of this is happening. As Consciousness and as the Absolute, you are witnessing this entire play of Consciousness as well, and nothing can touch you there. So when we speak about non-doership, we are not talking about a state of becoming passive. I have been destroyed, I feel...

It's the play of Consciousness itself. It's all the movie which is being played for you. You will not be able to give it the seriousness of saying 'it is happening to me' because it is not happening to you. You are the light in which all of this is happening. As Consciousness and as the Absolute, you are witnessing this entire play of Consciousness as well, and nothing can touch you there. So when we speak about non-doership, we are not talking about a state of becoming passive.

I have been distracted. I feel now I've been distractible. Instead of sitting in the 'I', I've been looking for DNA activation and all sorts of, you know, meditation and, you know, a lot of things, a whole lot of things. And now I feel all this knowledge—maybe some may be useful because you're connecting to the, you know, source through the central sun and all that—all this information you have. But where is the central sun? Everything is in your heart. So Earth as a giver of all, and that energy you need, and so be like a tree and, you know, take in the energy. But all this, this is all distraction, isn't it? So I've been going through all these things. Is that Consciousness doing it or my unconsciousness doing that?

When you talk about the Consciousness and the unconsciousness, it is just like saying the darkness and the light. So the light has some tangibility about it, but darkness, does it have? Darkness is only the absence of light. So actually there is no such thing as the unconsciousness; it is only Consciousness. Even the play of dark and light happens in the light of Consciousness. All happens in the presence of you, the 'I Am'—not you personally, you as 'I Am'. When Consciousness is present, then this layer of light and dark happen. So Consciousness is all there is phenomenally. Ultimately, even Consciousness is phenomenal because even Consciousness is coming and going every night. In deep sleep, there is no Consciousness. Waking is Consciousness. So even that, for you as a witness of sleep and waking, you are aware that you sleep and you awake, isn't it? So for you as a witness of sleep state and waking state, even Consciousness is phenomenal. In the waking state, you cannot lose Consciousness. You cannot stop being. So this is how that is.

Now, your first part was about being distracted with all of these various practices and various things. It can choose to play like this, but the point is that you are here now, you see? And here I see complete potential to see you for yourself absolutely, because I don't believe in baby steps. Yes, because the simplest is to see yourself, to be yourself.

When you are, when that happens in front of a Master, your grace, it seems so simple. So simple.

Absolutely. It is the simplest. The simplest because nothing to do, you see? You go for a chakra meditation, they'll say, 'Okay, focus on this chakra, chant something or something.' Even that is effort, you see? Yeah, nothing you have to... I mean, you have to start from kindergarten, but this seems like in the garden to me. Almost seems like you go from the most difficult things to come to this place where there's no nothing being taught at all.

Here you've gone from complexity, complexity, more complexity, to pure simplicity. If the mind has everything upside down, and yet about this Satsang also many will say, 'But this is too difficult or abstract, I don't get it,' because the mind cannot fathom it. It's too simple for the mind to grasp. This is like the hand will not be able to grasp onto air or space. Same way for the mind, this knowledge doesn't mean anything. When I say 'You are That' to the mind, it means nothing. I say 'Can you stop being now?' to the mind, it means nothing. Or 'Are you aware now?' to the mind, it means nothing. Yet to you, this can be the... yes, okay, to you this can be the explosion of what you... not even explosion, that might be a little dramatic, you see. It's the simple thing of what you are.

Yes. When I left you on the other day, even in my sleep I was saying... I had to say in the beginning, 'I'm not a person, I'm I Am That. I'm not a person, I'm a presence.' So in my sleep I was telling that. Then, I mean, so I was saying, I was continuously saying that I'm presence, I'm presence. I'm feeling presence to you in my sleep. But I have to say, I had to say, 'I am not a person, I'm not a person, I'm presence. Not a person, a presence.' So is that wrong in the beginning?

You mean that it's the beginning because it's not a bad thing to start. It's not a bad thing because everyone... yeah, two opposite concepts we can collide and both would disappear. So if the opposite concepts are colliding and both are disappearing, this is very good. Your presence also is not conceptually... the conception is, but you can use it. So you're using the concept to remove the older concept and then throw away even this concept. So the conceptual sense that 'I am presence,' this must go, otherwise this will lead to a spiritual ego, you see? So what will happen is that you will, if you keep on like this—in the beginning it's good—but if you keep on like this, 'I'm not a person, I am presence,' then the person voice itself will take over this concept 'I am presence' and it'll make something special out of it. Okay? So just like this, in the beginning it's good like this, that you can say, 'Yes, not a person.' When you say presence, then you be presence, you see? Don't just say presence as a word, then you be the person, you see? The being is here. This way you do, then more trouble. But if presence becomes just another word or a concept, then it could be... yes, come on.

Oh yes, all my memories then on the way to the airport, it got dialed up then. But what happened then when you reached the plane, you were okay?

I was trying to... I don't know anything and now, right, I just know now it's starting to construct it. Yeah, go back. Okay, so now don't speak as a person. And it's here, let it be there, let it do whatever it wants. And if I were to say just stay as the presence, would it make sense?

Yes, but it feels like a small account then.

What feels like it's a small part?

This, yes, yes, yes. It just becomes in the... the view becomes much more global and this which is happening in this body becomes just a part of this view.

Yes, this is how it looks like then. They're not so obsessed with what's happening. So it's awareness, just aware. There's not a special sense of something with this body, just another object which is being viewed. Attention. So now speak from this perspective, you see? The body here is feeling something, experiencing something. This will still be there, but are you suffering because of it?

Yeah, instantly, yeah.

But this also... now speak about this sense of being freaked out also from awareness's perspective, or being necessary. Let's stay with awareness. So there's a sense of being freaked out and that is also seen. So are you freaking out or is this sense of freaking out dancing in front of you?

Yes, my industry.

Are you suffering because of it?

So this is what you mean, that all the appearances will continue but your vantage point changes.

It's always been this vantage point, but we are presuming that our vantage point is that of the body or the mind. Now we see that I am only this awareness and all these appearances are happening this way, that way, but I am not touched. So it's not about any states. Even these would seem like the strongest energies, it is not really making awareness suffer. And then if feelings of bliss or joy come, they are also just watched. We have taken the individual 'me' out of the equation. This is when Guruji says, 'Where are you speaking from?' This is what it means. What is your vantage point? Okay? But, but yeah, the mind will grow. So that also is seen from this vantage point as awareness. The mind saying, 'But a good part is also seen.' Are you imagining yourself to be awareness and looking from there, or you will see that I am this simple witnessing? I am aware now.

Yes.

Then look. So what we are speaking of is, then we speak about: are you aware now? Can you see that awareness is aware of itself? This untouched awareness, simple. And in this space there can be the appearance of all these phenomenal activities. So as this awareness, what is happening to you? Something happening? The mind will say, 'I'm not sure what's going on. I'm not sure whether you really got it or not.' This is what the mind is saying. I know this was, but it's unmissable because you will say, 'Yes, I am aware now.' It means awareness is completely aware of itself. It does not need your mind's intervention. So this awareness which is here now, is that touched by any of these appearances? This is freedom because it is never touched. You are never really touched. All that was ever touched, all that was seemingly hurt, was just an idea of you, never really you.

Think in this state of our beingness is no samadhi is nothing.

So in the state of beingness, who's aware even of being? You said in the state of beingness, but actually the constant state in the waking state, except if you're in Turiya, that is okay. So there's a sense of beingness, like I say, 'Can you stop being now?' You cannot. That means beingness is present. So who's aware of this beingness? You are aware even of this beingness. Is beingness aware of you or no?

Okay. And who's aware of this being? Is that the status?

No, but who is aware of this being? You say that beingness is here, I cannot turn it off. So my question is: who is aware of being?

No, beingness comes from this fear of ends. Beingness comes from the spirit.

So when we say waking state is here, it means that the birth of being has happened. It has gone back into awareness itself. So the birth of the universe, the birth of Consciousness, is happening inside you. To be ever established in that is called the Turiya state. You cannot leave that. We'll talk about Turiya later. I want you to understand this because you can put whatever labels, which is not really that relevant, but you get this: the being is here and there's awareness even of being. And this awareness, is it touched by the presence and absence of being also? So if it is not even touched by the birth and the dissolution of God itself, then what appearance can touch you?

Yes, you are aware of presence or presence is aware of you?

I am aware. Yes, therefore you are the greater. Therefore you are this awareness itself. That awareness will confuse you, no? Just see what is already here. When you put whatever label you want, then you will discover that labeling is a very problematic tendency because most of the world, if you say, 'Okay, so what is the answer to who am I?' you say, 'I'm not the body, I am the soul.' And the soul just becomes like a label. You say, 'What is this soul?' 'The soul is just the soul.' And the soul is just a label. And this label actually becomes a block to the inquiry because the mind is saying, 'You know the answer, you're the soul.' So who has looked at this soul, or is it just another mental concept? So as long as we are dealing with concepts, then it's troublesome. What is true must be here now and can be checked firsthand. Why do we need to refer to any concept also?

Nikhil had typed something. He says, 'Father, I just wanted to share a feeling. I'll ruin it by trying to express it and I'm afraid it might sound a bit woo-woo. When we met the other day, the entire room had this great intense fire. When I came up to you and I looked into your eyes, the bliss was of a totally different order. Even your touch felt like it had some kind of electricity. I could have just been there for a long time, but the thought came that I should not overstay my welcome. There were other people waiting behind to meet you. Of course, I won't be holding on to any image or feeling, but I just want to thank you for coming to Pune and for all that you do. Love you.' I love you too much. Thank you for this very beautiful report. It does not sound woo-woo at all. I know that feeling. It's so true. In Father's presence, there is a special light and grace and love, a very special feeling. It is your openness, it is your love which exists now.

What is the vantage point? It's the person again.

But see, this is just the game, because you can never become the person. That's why I'm always at ease. I'm never worried about you because I know.

Puna, and for all that you do to love you, I love you too much. Thank you for this very beautiful report. It does not sound woo-woo at all. I know that feeling. It's so true. In Father's presence, there is a special light and Grace and love; a very special feeling. It is your openness, it is your love which exists. Now, what is the vantage point? It's the person again. But see, this is just the game, because you can never become the person. That's why I'm always at ease. I'm never worried about you, because I know that you can never become this. If you had the ability and the power of belief was beyond just pretending, then there would be some real troubles. If the power of belief was just beyond just the pretending, then there could be some potential. But I don't mind this game at all. The person does not exist and it has never existed. But you can seemingly energize it with your belief and you can pretend that you are. But this doesn't mean that I can ever see you as that, because it does not exist. Even now, you are aware of all of this up and down, and this awareness is untouched by any of the up and down. Right now, this is true irrespective of the words which you will say.

What's happening now? So what's happening is okay because it just happened. But when you say 'happening to me'—thank you, yes, exactly. But wanting to expensive because it's gone into the realm of not even... yeah, something just because no one's there is... maybe that is the meaning actually.

This reminded me of another point, which is about this: so many teachers who are teaching various types of energetic practices and chakra and this meditation, that meditation. But I must say, without any sense of arrogance, that very few actually understand the energies that they are dealing with. Very few. Because this energetic understanding comes from the heart, you see, and it's not possible without this complete self-discovery. So many are playing around with energies which they don't understand. They make you go through processes and practices which open certain chakras, but do they really know the implications of that openness and what energetic transfer can happen in those times? They do not know this. When you were talking about practices earlier, I find that in today's world it seems very fashionable to talk about Kundalini and chakra meditation and this kind of thing without the real teachers really sharing about them. It cannot be learned just by going to a teacher's training program for some time. It's not possible. And it's best not to play around with this energetic stuff because it seems to become very strong, the energies. Some of us have been dealing with them, so we see that you can complete a part. So when you're opening the floodgates for energy and this kind of stuff, then there has to be a teacher who's strong enough to deal with these energies.

I rarely speak like this, all of you know that, but I feel it is something that needs to be pointed out. All this Kundalini and also chakras and all of this must be done in the presence of the one who has discovered the true Self. Then the expression... there might be teachers who experience their true Self and they find that in their expression it is flowing in that way, then it's okay. And this expression is hardly ever a point where I want to dwell on those type of subjects. See, it does not move here like this. But this does not mean that we can go through just some people who learned on the internet how to do Kundalini. Thank you. Strictly warned us against going for any Kundalini Yoga. This is important. You go first, you smell for the presence of the Master, and if you find that there is some truth, reality there, and in the form of expression that's coming in the form of yoga or chakra or Kundalini, then it's okay. We just don't go to anyone who's just learned it. Yes, even pranayama actually, we must say like this, that has become very, very popular and things, and there are health benefits, things like this. But it must be done in the presence of someone who understands how to work, who can at least absorb the negative energies which are bound to also appear.

We won't talk too much about them. Many of us—I don't know why I'm saying all this energy—many of us feel that, 'Okay, now I've understood, now I can speak the right words, so I'm ready for satsang.' It's not this. It must be from your presence. The presence. It's not about the words that you can speak. You can be the most ineloquent, most ineloquent, the words might make no sense, but in your simple presence, in one glance, beings might be coming to freedom. This is where I am asking you to keep your vantage point, because otherwise satsang is going to be horrible. Such a business is the most horrible business to be in for a person, because you have offered yourself up for all the energies, you see. Many don't realize this. And you're saying that 'I will help you and I can lead you to freedom.' You are not just going to be giving lectures. It's not just about talking with this. You are... it's an invitation. And I'm happy to absorb all the energies which all of you are carrying. This is the true invitation to satsang, okay? And this can come when you have seen that it is unshakable, what you are. Any energy can come and go, because if there's even an iota of fear of any energy, then we must not come close to sharing satsang. If there's an iota of fear of any sort of energy, any sort of this energetic transmission, then we must not say that 'I am going to be sharing satsang.' And this attack is going to happen through you; it will happen spontaneously through this presence, and this will not be accompanied by any fear.

Jerome says, 'The best one I have met for Kundalini Yoga is...' Okay, I'm not... I don't know why I went on that tangent. I don't know who it was meant for. So there are upsides and downsides to technology. So what's happening is because the world has become so accessible, even things like Kundalini, which were very, very sacred sort of sciences in the earlier days, they were only talked about with very advanced practitioners of yoga. Now everybody talks about Kundalini as if it's a joke. Just... and many, many of these appearances of strong energetic transmissions gone wrong and all of these things can happen. It's all part of the play, I suppose. Thank you, my dear. Jazz says, 'Father, you're the only yoga I know. There is nothing else.' You were saying something? Yeah, we'll be here. Did you want to say something about this? It's okay.

Yes, yes. The question is, is it okay if I just let this be? Just let this be and find yourself in the presence of the Master in your heart? But just be. Just see that you are this awareness alone. See the same thing: to find yourself in the presence of the Master in your heart or just to see that you are this simple awareness alone. Sin? Then no, none of these energies can do anything. We've already dealt with most of it actually. Now it's just whatever fear there is, it is just feeding on that a little bit and trying to say that 'I'm still here.' But if you keep feeding it with fear, then just stay with me in your heart. You go back then? Will you hear Wednesday, September, today and tomorrow? The mind is saying, 'I don't want to grow.' I know. Never not really who you stay here. The body is home. It's okay.

Amazing places, by the way, for the rest of you. It's just that he's speaking something privately, so we're not broadcasting. Exactly. Continue. We can talk a little more about this after satsang. That is exactly how it happens mostly. And so I said that the Master should be someone who can absorb this stuff, not just... okay, we'll talk about this then. He says, 'Father, I know these energies very well. They come very strong at times, but there is no interest in them here anymore.' Very good. They appear just like any other phenomenon. Very good. May everything continue to be absorbed in you. Very good. It is.

And Priya says, 'Hello, please give all my love to Father in chat. I love him so much. My heart is... hope you had a wonderful birthday. You know you're having a blast.' As long as you're not confusing yourself to be a person, none of this little version... yes. But is this... are you inside this realm or is this realm inside you? If it feels like something is inside something else, then what is the truer position? Are you in this realm or is this realm inside you? What is the constant one? This awareness is aware of the realm; the realm is not aware of awareness. One, the greater one, must be you, in the presence of which waking state is there, dream state is there. There are so many realms in common. In one night you can see millions of realms. So all these realms can come and go, but you are the constant. You are the unchanging witness. But something tries to say that 'I am in the realm.' What is in the realm is mine also itself. So which is what is called attachment. Exist. Imagine, just imagine.

Atma says, 'Thank you, Father, for today's satsang.' That was it. I hope you can see your sister in the hangout as well. Thank you, Devika. So much love to you as well. Devika says, 'All is satsang, all is true, Father. On Saturday I was finally able to thank Guruji for giving us you.' Thank you, my dear. This reminded me of what Shanti actually told him when we met at Prasanna and we had a special dinner with this Sangha of being in Guruji, and she said that... she said that, 'He might be your son, but he's our Father.' So he said, 'Don't call me Grandpa.' Okay. Thank you for this divine Sangha as well. Thank you. This is also my Master's gift, and it is all of your gifts to me. Thank you so much. This has so much light is here in this and now. Thank you, and thank you all. You are also this light. Thank you. Devika wants to come up? Yes, you can come, my dear.

Father, it seems like there is some resistance that is, you know, standing up for satsang, though everything is happening like in a plan where, you know, everything will be arranged just at the time of satsang. But then it's not the mind in direct form like the translation or something which is deviating it. It feels like there are some energies, you know, which are kind of dragging me, and then there is a resistance even of exposing that. You must say, 'You don't need to, you don't need to watch it,' and you know you're aware and this will pass away. But then lately I'm thinking mind is kind of, you know, playing this trick and some belief is going on, so a bit of peace is disturbed. What we should do?

We should create a list of all those who make a deal with me now. Make it... we should actually have a physical Google spreadsheet and we should put everyone who says that, 'If I ever move away from satsang, then you must pull me back.' And you must go and go to this Google spreadsheet and put your name in there, you see. Because what happens is I've seen over the last few months that we could have this deal, then when I say, 'Okay, you must come back to satsang,' there's often this response saying, 'No, I'm okay.' So then we must now make a deal like this in this play that is going on. We must actually go and put our name, and if there's a way to put a digital signature, you put that also, so it doesn't seem like I am now forcing you to come back to satsang, you know, because we need more followers or something like that. So let's actually do this. And then if something takes over and says, 'Okay, no, I don't need that, it's the same stuff,' and then when I say, 'Okay, I feel you must come back to satsang,' then you will not say it. I am only living up to my end of the bargain. It'll be good to play it out like this. Maybe it needs to play in this realm a little bit because very often I see—not for you, not just for you I'm saying, but very often I see like this—that one day the voice is saying, 'Yes, I want to be at your feet forever. If there's ever anything, you just whack me out of it, you know, just whack me out of it and pull me right back in.' And after a few days you're saying, 'So, I got this.' I'm saying, 'Okay, maybe come to satsang?' 'No, no, I got this.' Then what am I supposed to do? I do not want to... the other thing is that I know that life will work its way through and if you are to meet in this...

Not just for you I'm saying, but very often I see like this: that one day the voice is saying, 'Yes, I want to be at your feet forever. If there's ever anything, you just whack me out of it, you know, just whack me out of it and pull me right back in.' And after a few days you're saying, 'So, I got this.' I'm saying, 'Okay, maybe come to satsang.' 'No, no, I got this.' Then what am I supposed to do? I do not want to... the other thing is that I know that life will work its way through, and if you are to meet in this lifetime, we will meet in this lifetime, or the next, or the next. We will meet. But it is my job to remind you because you made this deal with me. So we need maybe a reminder system. I don't know what else to say, what else to do.

The pull is very, very strong to be in satsang. So in a way, whatever happens, you know, even for ten minutes I won't log in, it'll bring me here. So you are doing it, that is for sure. But then, well, the other part of it, because you know, including me, there would be attention that will go here and there. And even if I'll stick to my seat just in front of that, there will be some resistance that would come just to, you know, do something while the session is going on. So I just wanted to expose it.

Yes. Trouble comes... the trouble is not here yet because you already see that it is a resistance. But when the resistance becomes so strong that it seems like the truth, that is when the trouble comes. You see? When the voice of the resistance sounds like the truth and the voice of the teacher sounds like it is coming from ego, that is when the trouble comes. Mm-hmm. And we must ultimately... what can we do? We must trust life to play exactly this game as it is meant to. But I'm happy to play even in the worldly form. Whatever is needed to be done, I'm happy to play.

And all of you are saying, 'Put my name down.' We actually make this list. Put my name on top, Father. Okay? Something... because sometimes actually, I'm going to be completely honest, this resistance can be so sneaky. It takes me by surprise. Yeah, because it can be like there's no chance that any resistance can get to anyone in the Sangha, and that day somebody decides, 'Okay, no more satsang for me.' It starts like, 'Hey, you can watch it on YouTube today, you don't need to hang out.' And then, 'Oh, there is always a recording, you can, you know, watch it later.' And then probably you should, you know, watch it during the end of the day, and then probably it will just find its way out. So, you know, there's an awareness of what is happening in the mind trick, but sometime, you know, you're not able to deal with it with your mind. Let's give it to you.

And if you can start like this also... it starts like, 'You don't need the physical presence anymore, you feel Ananta in your heart.' It starts. But you have to smell very carefully for that, whether it's coming from a sense of specialness or it's just coming from this place of Truth. Okay, let's have a Bhajan. Sangeeta will sing for us. You see it again? Yes, please, my dear. Thank you.

Natural consciousness and love. Leave it here in the fire always. Into this idea... no, no. So all that you're saying is, many of you say that you will pull me back. See, again, this is completely forgotten that we made this deal. So all I'm saying is that if you make this deal, then you go and put it there, that this is the deal in ink. It's a reminder system. There is nothing ever here which can force anyone to do anything at all. I can't even force my children to study. I don't know how to force anyone to stay in the satsang. So no concept of force about anything. It's just that if you're saying that you make this deal, just so that you don't remember... you don't forget that this deal was there, because this is exactly the reminder that you're asking for. You see? This is exactly the reminder that you're asking for: 'Remind me that I made this deal with you.' So here, speaking much more playfully than that.

And Atma said, 'Never left satsang. Impossible to leave myself now when I found it.' T capital I think. Wilma says, 'Thank you so much, Father, for taking my hand always.' Welcome. And Jenny says, 'Yes, Father, name on your list. Thank you so much.' So Priya says, 'Burning everything here. Burning everything here. All experiences. Just don't want anything now. Too tired of living this personal life. Too much happening here. Please burn all that I am, all that I am not. Please burn all that I'm not completely. Thank you.' You leave it here with me and refuse to pick it up, then none of it will bother you. If you refuse to give the person idea meaning, then it will not. So many, so many enjoyed your singing so much, Sangeeta. On the YouTube chat, they're all saying thank you so much. Exposing, yes. So grateful for your hand which reached out when I jumped out for overnight, and your love was such. Easy. Welcome home.

You are home. You are home now. No pretending that you are leaving. That's all. That's me. You have never left the destination. All my blessings with all of you that you don't pretend now that you get tired of this pretend being believed in. Parvati Ji can share her beautiful invocations with us.

Thank you. Thank you all so much for being in such a way. Okay. Okay, let's go. Thank you so much. Thank you. You can turn the broadcast off now.