So Naturally Undivided... - 30th January 2020

Father, I heard from Mooji, he was such inspiration on my way. She was saying, 'I started to lose my sense of self, it was like everything was me.' So when the term 'self' is used in this way, if the small 's' self... she said, 'I lost my sense of... I lost my sense of individuality or separation.' That's why the terms like between Buddhism and Vedanta, the term 'self' can be very confusing. So of course, and you can talk more about that, but many times when their sense of self is being referred to in this way, we're talking about like us, like we lost the sense of division, it was the sense of individuality.

So, you must hear the context, otherwise it can be very confusing. 'I started to lose my sense of self, it was like everything was me.' And just to illustrate that, to be aware that 'I lost something,' you see, or 'I found something,' so the sense of self was lost—you were aware of that. That is the Self that is being spoken of. So, whose life? 'It was like everything was me and my father comes home, I cannot find difference between him and me. It was like I am coming in.' And then I read, okay, will it be possible for a moment in pure perception where the sense of division is lost? Constant. When the sense of separation is lost, it is not even that we... this is not even just for communication. Sometimes we use the term like that, like some perception moves and it feels like 'I'm coming in,' you see. That is not my experience. It is just that I can't find any division. I am not able to label truly: going out, up, down, left, right, yesterday, tomorrow, existent.

So, naturally undivided. We can't even call it 'one-ness' because even 'one' is like opposed to a zero or in relation to a two or something like that. And this what I'm saying is true for you in your perception. How many are you seeing just in your perception, not in your interpretation? You see one? And it's an empty one. You see two? I will take the two. Are you seeing nothing? I don't see any nothing. I just know, let's call it pure perception, unlabeled, motionless existence. Is there oneness, twoness, threeness? All these are just terms. So there is no division to be found. Even the body sensations are experienced. Nothing is saying that that divides. It is just perceived like everything else happens.

So don't try to come to a particular state where you're then able to say, 'I'm coming in' and 'so here it's all me.' And there's a very popular spiritual emotion, do I want to look into it further? Many people say, 'I am not done yet because I don't feel like I'm the tree and I'm the couch and I'm the ceiling.' And many times my response to them is: why you left out of the space? It is still a very objective way of trying to come to this oneness. It is clear, it's simpler. Anything complicated is the mind. I don't know if I have a better tip for you.