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Relying on the Atma within for True Knowledge

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Saar (Essence)

Ananta teaches that rather than analyzing sins through the mind, one should return immediately to the Atma's refuge. He explains that true humility remains focused on God, while self-analysis often serves to reinforce the ego.

Don't for any reason not return to Him, because He is the only medicine for the human condition.
True humility is when it is not about ourselves, but about being fully devoted to God.
Under His guidance, we will understand things much better than we could ever do without Him.

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Transcript

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Seeker

Thank you for letting me come up. I wasn't sure if you would call on me, and I knew that I took your time last time. But this question came up, or this clarity came up around kind of where I've been stuck, and I just wanted to share. It just felt important to share, I guess. So, you know, definitely when there's spiritual practice, it's just a tick in the box sometimes, I must admit. And it becomes stale; that's definitely a downfall for a place where I get trapped. And also, you know, wanting to feel important through my suffering, like my suffering is especially important, so please feel bad for me. You know, it's another way I get stuck.

Seeker

But this question is a little different. Another place I get stuck is like, okay, God becomes so palpable and so powerful, more than mind, and so is at the forefront of everything. There's so much love, and it feels like it's not because of anything I've done; it doesn't feel like it's by the grace of God, it just comes, you know, just magically. And so when it goes—

Ananta

Huh, you must get stuck over there? I know I must. You said you get stuck there?

Seeker

No, I wish I would get stuck there! That would be wonderful. No. But then when God's presence seems to go, when I leave it, when it's left—

Ananta

That's very important. He doesn't go; we leave. Yes.

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Seeker

And so that's where I get stuck. I'm like, okay, if I leave, I need to understand why I leave. So that's where I get stuck. I'm like, okay, what sins am I creating? What am I doing wrong? And so then that's when the stuckness comes. I need to understand what I'm doing wrong; I need to understand these sins so that I don't leave Him. I don't want to leave Him. So, like, how important is it to kind of understand those sins so that we don't keep repeating the same mistakes, compared to just offering it up and staying focused on Him? Does that make sense? Which is priority?

Ananta

That's a very good question. So, yeah, how much should we post-mortem and figure out what happened, why did I leave? And can we, or should we just return, you see? And you notice what happens when you just return to Him: your sight becomes actually very clear. You see, you know much more clearly what happened when you return, after you return to Him, than if you were to try and do that exploration by yourself, you see.

Ananta

So one thing we must remember is that the Atma, the Holy Spirit, the Satguru presence, is literally called the Satguru because it is the source of all true knowledge, you see. So under His guidance, we will understand things much better than we could ever do without Him, you see. So even to notice our faults, who best to take it to is to take it to the Atma within, to the Holy Spirit within. Because in His grace—I took this example of many obscure-seeming spiritual texts which make no sense, but you do it in the spirit of surrender and you let the Atma guide you, and He reveals such beautiful truths in those things which your mind just couldn't understand.

Ananta

Many of us are going through these kind of texts and noticing this, isn't it? That when just in our mind, we could never have understood the subtleties of what is being pointed to, and yet the Spirit just makes them alive, makes all of this so apparent to us, you see. So how to know how to improve, how to know what we did wrong? Best to do it under the best teacher, who is our Atma itself, who is the Holy Spirit itself, okay? So we must not look at it as a presence which is merely loving, which is merely full of light and grace and joy and peace; it's also the Supreme teacher. It is the highest teacher, of which all sages, all external Masters, are just an instrument, a weak instrument of That. Yeah. So best to return to His refuge and say, 'Guide me, guide me, Father. What is it? What is it that I'm making a mistake with?' Correct? His guidance will be seen in one way or the other, you see. Fine?

Seeker

Yeah, yeah, I have seen this. Yes.

Ananta

Don't, for any reason, not return to Him. For any reason, yeah. Because He is the source of all rest, all rejuvenation, all insight, all love, all peace. He's the only medicine for the human condition. Yeah. You can rely on Him completely for everything. Everything. Yeah.

Seeker

Yeah, it's clear. That's... yeah, that's a stupid question.

Ananta

No, it's good, it's good. Yeah. What happens once something is apparent in our heart, then after that, the question may seem like it was strange or it was not needed or something like that. But while it still has some fire, the question can seem alive. It's important to just ask that because it seems so obvious, but it's not obvious before we hear the answer.

Seeker

Yes, that's why we have you. I'm so grateful, Father. Thank you.

Ananta

That's why the Atma Himself has gifted us with these instruments, because we are learning to go to His light through these embodiments, these instruments that we are all blessed to have in our lives. Thank you so much.

Seeker

So grateful. Right now, there is a place for repentance too, no? Like in it, but it's not a repentance of getting lost in the sin and dissecting it and understanding it, but an offering in a non-mental way. Yeah, not getting lost there.

Ananta

It's just that's why I started in Satsang saying that our humility, to recognize our foolishness when contrasted by His grace, adds a great fire in our spirituality and takes us away from any sort of pride and complacency. Yeah, like there's a difference between humility, true humility, and wallowing in self-pity, rightly.

Seeker

Yeah, and I get stuck sometimes in that.

Ananta

And that is why sometimes I just say that, okay, good to notice all of this, but keep it at ten percent. Don't make it more than ten percent, because then the 'me' can become more relevant. If you notice the center of gravity shifting away from God's light and presence to something about 'me'—'What about me?'—you see? So when we notice our faults, when we notice our stupidity, our foolishness, when we are truly humble, we are humble because we want to be fully devoted to God. We want to be fully offering ourselves to God. It's still about God, you see. That is true humility. When it is not about ourselves. When it is about ourselves, to just make conclusions about ourselves for our own sake, you see, then that is false humility.

Seeker

Oh wow, I feel like I'm hearing this for the first time. This is very helpful. I feel like, wow, I don't know if I've said it like this before, but just to notice, we can notice within our hearts what it's really about. Yeah, we can feel it. We know it.

Ananta

Yeah, we know. Yeah. Thank you so much. That's very clear. Yeah. Yes, bless you. Thank you so much.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.