Relationships, Responsibility and Non Doership - 18h July 2016
Saar (Essence)
Ananta advises a student struggling with spiritual ego and marital friction to abandon the 'spiritual jerk' persona. He emphasizes surrendering the individual will to the Guru to allow natural kindness and responsibility to emerge.
The spiritual jerk is the worst form of jerk. Knowledge should be an umbrella, not a sword.
You could be speaking the truth, but if the words don't carry kindness, you're still being a jerk.
The best husband to have is a surrendered husband; don't take on the project of self-improvement yourself.
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Transcript
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No one would... he told my wife that she is a pure spirit, okay? And there is no doubt that, you know, in all aspects she is my guru, the very first guru. And I have given a lot of suffering because of my nature, you know, very aggressive and all that stuff, and she has put up with me, you know, for many, many years like this. Now what she says is that, first of all, I have a habit of getting stuck in something or the other, and she says now I have found spirituality. Basically, you know, the whole day I am just saying 'Self, Self, Self' and it is a kind of an obsession for me now. This obsession actually is a kind of a mental disorder for me also, right? Since childhood I get stuck, like you know what they say, OCD kind of a thing, so obsessive-compulsive disorder. She says that you had caused me lot of suffering, and that is true also. And now what is happening is that there is no suffering for me as such; I don't suffer, I cause suffering to others. You know, it's a very practical aspect. So I have always caused the suffering not because, you know, I intended any harm or hurt to anybody, and I already told her that there is no intention here, it just happens. She says that it is a very convenient excuse.
Now what is happening, for 20 days I have not gone out of my apartment. I am just sitting on the couch and the anxiety is still less, but still, even if, like you know, it is all one God's play and myself and my wife we both understand it and we sense it, still the role of the person or the role, you know, in this realm... basically, you know, how do I know whether I am playing it well or not? How do I know whether, you know, it is my excuse as a person to flee from my role? You know, whether I can't just escape, you know, saying that no, no, it is very easy for me to simply disregard 'I am.' And I know it is coming from, you know, the facility itself. I cannot negate my existence because this I am-ness and this realm, it is too turbulent and the personality does not want to get into this. Then there is another fear that I have to face it and transcend it. So the best thing is that you discard the 'I am,' remain as a witness. If I remain as a witness, then I cannot engross in the I am-ness activity. Either I can be a witness or I can be there in the activity; I cannot be both at the same time because I can either have attention on the 'I' or in the activities of the I am-ness. Why this is happening? Because my personality is still there. Otherwise, I don't have to make any efforts; it will be a simple, you know, unfolding of the life in the I am-ness and then simply watching. But I am still there as a personality.
Very good. Two goals for this question that you asked. Yeah, okay, then let's come... so let's look at the second part first, because there is an understanding here that the way that that personality plays out, which is manifesting, is an elder... not any sort of order to this personality. It will try to make a jumbled up, anxious mess out of it. That is why I have been consistent in my advice to you, which is that this 'I' which is trying to figure out what to do or not to do, you surrender that at the feet of my Master, at the feet of Guruji. Because I know that with this, it cannot fool around. With this instruction, it cannot really fool around. There's too much reverence for Guruji here for this personality also to try to mess that up, mix it up in various things, try to put some other concepts to it or anything, you see. So there is nothing missing in this instruction, there is nothing lacking in this instruction. All that you have to do is surrender yourself at the feet of my Master. It is completely clear and completely enough to do so.
This one is as far as the second... because if I tell you, 'Okay, who's the witness and who is aware of I am and what is I am?' again it will mix something. It will bring itself back into the fold somehow, you see. So we don't want to do that. And you... there might be an impulse that, 'Oh, I want to do that,' but keep that aside. I know that the best pointing for you is this simple surrender, which your mind will hate actually, ultimately, but your heart recognizes that it is the best, you see. So this is as far as the second part of the question was concerned.
The first part actually, when you were speaking, was reminding me of my own married life. So this is very good. And I remember that before I met Guruji, and maybe for some time even after I met Guruji, it was like this. She would come to me with some work-related problem or family-related problem and I would start telling about who is the one facing a problem or who is this, and it will... she would want to throw the plate at me. 'I am talking to you about something else and you're talking about something else.' It will feel like that. And in fact, who was being the jerk here? I was. You see? Who was being the spiritual jerk? Me. Because it was not coming from a place of wanting to be helpful. Maybe there was some of that mixed in, but actually it was trying to show her that what she is doing is wrong, what she is thinking is wrong, you see. So it was coming from the specialness. It was coming from a space of carrying a sword to cut her head off instead of this knowledge being an umbrella to shelter us from rain, you see.
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So this knowledge for our close ones, for our loved ones, actually should serve as an umbrella and not as a sword. It should help them; it should bring more love and light into our lives. So this understanding I did not have till two things happened. One is that... talking about this, which was... he said that you could be saying the truth, every word coming out of your mouth could be true, but you could still be a jerk, you see. And they were saying earlier about a 'true'—a true well—that you could be speaking the truth, you see, but if the words don't carry the fragrance of love, if they don't carry the fragrance of kindness, then we are still being jerks. Using the 'spiritual jerk' is the worst form of jerk, I feel, and I've been there for many years so I can recognize it. Yeah. So first... I don't know what came first, but I remember reading this from Adyashanti. And second was when I went to Ramesh. And Ramesh said... I said, 'Yes, this is so nice, I come here, I listen to you and it's so good, but what about my wife, my family? She's just not interested in the question Who am I?' So he said something which I really... it just took home in my heart. He said, 'You wait for her to come to you, because the more you push her into it, the more she will want to push it away,' see.
So from that day, I don't feel I really asked her this question 'Who am I?' except when she is here in Satsang, which itself is rare. I don't feel that I ever asked her 'Who are you?' So I know that grace is taking care of it. And when she is done with the play, when she is open to this urge of self-recognition, she will. And in any way, what I've seen is that the way her expression is playing is much more devotional. Her love for Guruji is unmatched, you see. So that is enough. Why do I need to force my ways on her? Also something happened just a year ago actually, which was also an eye-opener for me, where she said that... we were just... she started talking, I started talking, we got into—as all married couples do—very quickly we got into a scrap about something. She said, 'If I was someone who had come to your Satsang, you would not be reacting like this.' And I looked at that. And she said this before, but for the first time it actually took home, you see. Because we've known each other 22 years, we had more time together than not with each other in our lives, you see. So it has become a habit to relate to each other as partners.
So I saw... only about a year ago, I saw that what she's saying is absolutely true. Why am I not able to look at her fresh? Why is it that I carry conditioning about this relationship? So this was very eye-opening here. And I feel—and maybe we should check with her actually, she should have been taking my testimony—but ever since this recognition came, the feeling here is to see her in that moment as if it is fresh, really. And I view that greatly in our phenomenal play of the relationship also. You find much more space, much more love is here. So a little bit, of course, there is always some something or the other going on, that is the masala for marriage, but there's a lot more space, a lot more love and peace in our marriage now when we come to this recognition. So these two-three things have helped in terms of the marriage. Though good advice is not to try to meditate too much, you see. You will find it funny coming from me.
If you try to equate it... the way it is fine, Father. The only thing is, you know, talking about the spirituality and, you know, finding the true nature is one thing, but at least before that, even if the person does not exist, it has to be a good responsible person. If I am here in the world, I am supposed to be a good, you know, a responsible person undertaking all my responsibilities, even if I have this false belief and then the transcendence comes. I am not even a good person and then to say that, you know, no, no, as a person I don't exist, I don't care about it... look, that is all in the realm of the, you know, Maya or Leela. I can see you can have any kind of a belief in this, but the thing is when all is one and that is experienced also, it is not that, you know, it is a concept for me. It is saying that if I am not a person, then nobody is a person. It is all one energy, one grace which is speaking. It should be... it is just a thought that, you know, I am a person, otherwise it is the same power. So then it is realized also, whatever the role I am playing, I should be playing very... no, the thing is then another thought comes. The thought comes is, 'Look, you have to ignore this thought that you should be playing the right kind of a role.' Which one to believe? Which one to believe? In my path, it might consider... this will always come. 'No, no, no, you see, you should be a good person, you should be responsible, you should be this, this, this, this, this.' Why is he saying, you know, it is so convenient now to get trapped into this? If at all it is a trap in the play, I have to constantly claim... I have to actually, you know, it is very painful that, you know, others they get hurt and they get suffered. But I have a sentence because this is a simple concept. This is a simple concept. But then another thought comes that if you are and others are same, then you cannot make them suffer. No, you cannot make them suffer. It is realized and they're also God and they're playing out. But still, to realize that they are God and they're playing out, then it doesn't make any sense.
Okay, so just right here. Yes, exactly. This is what I'm saying, that this one... you know, even a wife will agree, the best husband to have is a surrendered husband. So I will give you a guarantee that as you are surrendered at the feet of Guruji, you will also transform into a very loving husband, very spacious husband to have. You don't take on the project yourself. That's all I'm saying.
Right, Father. Thank you so much.
Thank you, my dear.
The Thread Continues
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