Questions of the Mind Are Irrelevant - 8th June 2016

The one for some time, what is happening that this desire to know, desire to interpret, you know, all this is just speeding away. Like whatever you are talking is just seen as kind of a hearing, yes, without any meaning or any words or any interpretation. I just see a figure, you know, movement of the lips. So I have tried it very hard actually, but it is just not clicking, you know. It is just fading away, disintegrating. The Satsang which I hear, I don't remember what I read actually; they don't register. It is just kind of a like, you know, some black and white kind of a thing. All the definitions, everything is just dissolving actually, you know. It is going to very, very basic things like only the five senses working, yes. Oh, and and there is no interpretation from the mind actually.

So now what is happening, there is a complete—I can't even say the silence because even the silence is seen. Okay, everything is seen. In fact, you know, I'm totally naked. I'm totally naked. In fact, it is difficult to explain, yes, it is very difficult to explain. And then what happens, there is no—there is no desire to know anything. There is no desire to understand anything or there is no desire to learn anything, to do anything or act on anything. I mean nothing, nothing to be done as such, you know, nothing to be done. Now what happens, uh, thought comes. A thought comes: 'Are you aware?' Now this, this creates a doubt. This creates a doubt that this state—this state which may be natural or which may be a kind of a hypnotic state—I do not know what is the truth behind this state, you know. Whatever I have told you is the experience.

Now the question comes, you know, whether this experience itself can be seen. So this can be seen. The one who—who is experiencing this, the one who is explaining all this to you, and this is also seen. I mean there is—there is nothing which is not naked in this, yes. There is nothing which is not naked in this. So then who is to meditate? For whom is the silence? You know, even this also disintegrates and I want to know whether it is a natural state. From where is this doubt coming? I mean, why even this question is coming up? Yes, from where is this question coming up? If—if this is a natural state, why even this question should come? Is this seen also? Is this seen also? So the mind just cannot go into any kind of a hypnosis, including the conviction that 'this is it.' Yeah, exactly. So I'm just seeing even the arising of this question, whether this is seen or this is not seen, and the one who is getting disturbed by this or the one who is doubting about this.

So I mean, yeah, let's look at where you started. You said that 'I tried and tried and tried to know things and now all this knowing is dropping. I cannot know anything. All I see is that some appearances are coming, the body is coming in front of me, the lips are moving, some words are being shared, but the sense of analyzing it, interpreting it, all of that seems completely futile and is not happening here.' This is very good. This is very good. So this is the dropping of the mental or conceptual knowing through which nothing can truly be known actually.

Then you say that there is just this scene of all of this. It seems so natural. The scene of this entire play is here and it seems very natural. And if this is natural, then why does these kind of questions arise that 'even isn't even this scene? Aren't you seeing even your own state of mind?' These kind of questions are coming. So let the questions also come and go. Don't have to analyze them also. Don't have to worry about whether they are—why are they still coming? They should have stopped by now. These kind of things, don't worry about, because the mind also comes pretending to be your ally and saying, 'See, I'm still helping you. I'm helping you to look, become like this.' If you don't need this ally, even these thoughts can be allowed to come and go because now if you're saying that the dropping of all conceptual knowing is happening, it's all mental knowing is happening, then not even these questions from the mind are relevant now. They can also come and go without any effort to see anything.