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Meeting YourSelf Is Being YourSelf - 19th February 2018

February 19, 201810:1730 views

Saar (Essence)

Ananta guides the seeker to recognize that the Self cannot be met as an object through perception or intellect. He reveals that once all changeful objects and concepts are negated, what remains is the ever-present, unchanging awareness.

To meet yourself, the very concept of meeting must fall away because you are already that.
Perception only meets objects, but you are that which is aware of even perception itself.
You cannot meet yourself through reason; you can only use reason to deny what you are not.

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Transcript

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Ananta

You come to satsang to presumably meet the Self, enough to self-recognition, to realize about yourself. So how would we meet? So maybe it's important first to experiment: how do we meet another? How do you meet a friend? For one, you can meet another, or two has to be there. To be two, you have to be there and the other has to be there. And how will you confirm that another is there? Let's break it down. What we mean by experience is perception, sensory input. Do you perceive the ceiling? Other. So in this way, we can meet all sorts of other objects. Is there something which is not an object that we can meet through the senses? And this is important because many are trying to meet themselves as an object, at least as an objective experience if not an object itself.

Ananta

But you already said that before I can meet anything at all, I have to be there. So this 'I', what sort of meeting would this be? If to meet another you need perception, you need an object, how would you meet yourself? That is why satsang is like a strange place. Everywhere else you go, you will be given instructions about how to meet that which you are looking for. If you go to a travel agent, he will tell you what you desire, you need to go to America, these are the steps. Presumably, we're giving instructions on how to meet yourself, and I'm also telling you that this is the simplest thing. At least to go to America you need a visa; to meet yourself you have no condition.

Ananta

So in what way can we meet ourself? Just being. But is there an option like not being yourself? You can't. So the meeting itself, the concept of meeting itself falls away. That is true. Somehow it has seemed like the many somehow need to meet ourself, but then you must be presuming that we have been meeting or being somebody else so far, or something else. So the Self has nothing to meet. The concept of meeting falls away. But presumably, one in some way started the spiritual journey, the aspiration to meet this Self. They undertook the journey wanting that ultimate of them all.

Ananta

So the clue is there: that perceptually, through perception, we can only meet an object. And you know very well by now that you are not an object. So besides perception, what else do you have? So using reason, so perception, concepts, and sort of deeper sort of concepts, is this until intellectualism? Now, can you meet yourself using one of these? So using perception, you selectively delete objects. Using concepts, you can only become ideas about yourself. Using reasoning, you can deny all that is not you, or you can deny what is not your ultimate reality. We'll just move here. You can use reason and say 'not this' because this is changeful, 'not this' because this is not this. This is reason. What is the end of reason? Being. And you run out of reason. Most where you come, you can say 'not this'.

Ananta

So if you come to this awareness, is there a 'you' left who's coming to awareness? What is left? That resistance? And yet you are still there, but not the 'you' that you thought yourself to be. So what is the more, and Mooji says, the most intimate 'you'? Let's say the most unchanging, unchanged. This Self, this awareness, or this oneness. How is this? How did you come to this? Did you have to use your perception? Did you have to use any concept? Did you have to come through intellectualism? Or get the 'you' deep steps? Or you lose these steps and there is practice or not practice? Can you know be anything which is not this? It is a mental confusion. There's more insight gets loose. What is it reliant on? The same say requires say nah. Outside this building there is a portal now. For some, maybe if the child is born into living on these little steps outside, then you only come from a conclusion with the parents to the outside. But once you step down, there is a deeper than concept, as a perceptual. Now we are talking about that which is deeper than even perceptual, more that which knows all perception, that which is aware of even perception.