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If It Requires Resolution It Is Not the Truth - 22nd November 2019

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Ananta guides seekers to recognize that they are the untouched space in which all sensations and thoughts arise. He emphasizes that the person we pretend to be does not exist, and true freedom is allowing all states to come and go.

Nothing that arises in the waking state touches the reality of you.
The only prison is a word prison in our heads.
If it can be conceptualized, it is a thought. That which is beyond thought is intuition.

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Transcript

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Ananta

Guru equivalent honestly, and welcome everyone to satsang today. Satguru Mooji Baba ki Jai. Questions, reports, some need to build some anything, don't you? And I can see that some doubt is here, some connection like such an expectation that we should be watching. So this idea that something should change or go away in the level of sensation or perceptions, only then we are open or free—this is just an idea. If all sensation went away, then it would be... if all the sensation went away, then nobody sleeps, you see? So that is coming anyway. So in everything that arises with the waking state, everything that comes with the waking state, nothing here touches you. It is just an idea that I have to do something with something in the waking state. How do you know what is good or bad? So the judgment about it being good or bad, or it should stay or should go, is only in the mind.

Ananta

The sensation can be whatever, but nothing inherently is saying 'I am good' or 'I am bad.' It is the judgment that comes from the mind that this should stay or this should go. Nothing that arises here—that's what I'm saying—anything arising here in the waking state does not touch the reality of you. When you convert it into something which you want or don't want, you see, then you pretend as if this makes a difference to your reality, but actually it doesn't. So whatever comes, you let it be. You have not been touched with the rising of this whole universe. Why we speak gesture, sensation, which seem to be so limited to the body? With the whole arising of this universe, you see, you have not been touched. But if you keep focusing like that on these tiny, tiny things, then it will seem like a never-ending thing because today here, tomorrow there, and only after there is even stahma something, something there is. It all comes and goes.

Ananta

So because in this idea that this should be like this or should not be like this, we are making ourselves or taking ourselves to be something that we are not—taking ourselves to be limited. If you were the space which is untouched by any sensation, then would you say, 'Why does the sensation come?' Does this room complain, 'Why are all these people coming? I like you, I don't like you'? So you are that which is beyond even this space. You are more spacious than this space. This space arises within you. So what is your complaint? What should come, what should not come? If the space doesn't complain about what is coming and not coming, and you are that space—that in which this space comes—but what you take yourself to be is an object in this space. And once you take yourself to be an object in this space, then you can have these desires and aversions, and the mind will keep saying, 'It is not the mind.' What is saying it is not the mind? The mind, then. But I promise you, it is not the mind to say that awareness, self-awareness, is the same.

Ananta

So don't fall for these simple tricks. I promise you, what is bothering me is not in my mind like that; it is just purely sensational, purely energetic. But how can something sensational or a perception bother something which itself is not an object? An object can only bother another object. No? Can an object here... can I throw this ball at space and say, 'Caught you!'? But only if you take yourself to be an object, then you can be hurt by it, you see? So whatever the sensation is, are you the space in which it is arising? No? Are you another object that is meeting that sensation? Are you sensation meeting sensation? Are you the space in which this space is arising? And you remain untouched by whatever it may be. So it is only the mind which has this idea. You can even have this idea: 'I come to Bangalore for a short time, I want to have Darshan, but this inward sensation is blocking.' Is it? But whose story is that? It is still self-definition, taking ourselves to be this object.

Ananta

Did you come to Bangalore? Did Bangalore come to you? If you are that in which the image of Bangalore appears, then you cannot be touched by anything in this. If you are that in which this waking state comes and goes, then anything in the waking state cannot touch you. But if you try to mix both things up, then it seems very confusing. 'Yes, yes, I know I am awareness, but should I stay here or should I go?' What you talk about awareness? Or, 'Am I getting fully that I am awareness?' Who is that 'I'? Anything other than the Self doesn't exist. I said if the Master says you don't even exist, who are they reminding that you don't even exist? Who are they reminding? Just the same oneness, the same consciousness which is taking itself to be something that it is not. So to drop this identification, what you take yourself to be doesn't even exist. Whatever you take yourself to be.

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Ananta

So what do you take yourself to be after coming to satsang? What are the options? As somebody who has discovered the Self? Doesn't exist. Somebody who is trying to find the Self? Doesn't exist. As the Self itself? Doesn't exist. As the not-self? That doesn't exist. Doesn't exist. What do you take yourself to be? As a disciple? Doesn't exist. As one with the Guru? Doesn't exist. As getting there, almost there? Doesn't exist. As abiding? Doesn't exist. 'I just have to remember this'? Doesn't exist. 'I have it now'? Doesn't exist. Or to take yourself concerned about sensation? Doesn't exist. As a sensation? Doesn't exist. As the witness? Doesn't exist. As the witnessing itself? Doesn't exist. Awareness? Doesn't exist. What is it? Can't see? The one who can't see doesn't exist. The one who can see doesn't exist. What you take yourself to be? Space? Doesn't exist. Infinite, eternal? Doesn't exist. Forget about it. That which remains? Doesn't exist. The moment you have thought about it, the moment you have concluded, so forget about it. Doesn't exist. Doesn't exist.

Ananta

Or do you take yourself to be nothing? Nothing, nothing, doesn't exist. To take yourself to be nothing is to take yourself to be something. What is that? Thank you. That not-taking doesn't exist. Now a bunch of sensations will come and they will bounce around. A bunch of sensations come, they bounce around that which we call the body. So take yourself to be that. I will do it. Take yourself to be that bunch of sensations dancing in front. Become that. Can you do it? How would you do it? How hard do you have to try? I'd like to stop to go, leave the titled emotions and take yourself to be so limited and stuck, constricted. Who cares about that? The one who cares about that doesn't exist. Resonating, not resonating—forget it. Who cares about that? Some noise is coming. Yes, yes, yes. No, no. Who cares about that? Or to take yourself to be this or something, tiny thing waiting for resonance to come? Resonance, resonance is there. Who's that? Who is that? Why you take yourself to be so small, choosing resonance? Who is that? Nobody.

Ananta

You've been in that classroom for too long. Been in that classroom too long, just learning the simple, simple provisional spirituality. What you take yourself to be, that is the question. Who is waiting for resonance? Nobody. Just an idea. If resonance came, how would you recognize it? What if non-resonance you say as resonance, and resonance is non-resonance? You don't know. Just an idea. Open, open. This resonance, no rule closes at you. How you know? Let's forget it. It's all stuck in the mind. Tell me who you are without waiting. If you keep waiting for something to happen, if you keep a remote control to something in this world—'This is nice, behaving nicely, now I'm happy. Oh, not nice feeling, not nice feeling, now I'm sad'—then what you take yourself to be? Just another object.

Ananta

Freedom is a simple allowing of all states, all feelings, all sensations to come and go. Not about, 'Oh, now freedom means that only this feeling should come or sensation should come.' And you are free in your reality, but if you take yourself to be anything at all, it just makes it seem like you... only makes it seem as if you are limited. So before you can conclude whether something is true or false, good or bad, right or wrong, more or less, better or worse, introduce yourself. Who are you?

Seeker

That's a good question. Ram, beloved Father, is intuition a kind of knowing?

Ananta

Yes. How to differentiate a thought from intuition? That which you know but it is independent of thought and perception is intuition. That which you know but it is independent of thought and perception is intuition. What you know intuitively without needing to perceive anything nor thinking. So your true intuitive insight about your own self, about what is, does not need any perception or thought. I mean, mental understanding is not needed. So how to differentiate intuition and thought? If it is a thought, it is a thought. That which is beyond thought is intuition. If it can be conceptualized, it's a thought. Whatever you can think is just a thought. It is not intuition. Very careful. Yes? Are you aware of your existence? That is intuitive, you see? Because you do not see this awareness, you've not perceived it, and you do not just reply from a concept of it, hopefully. Better? Yes, yes. I heard this in class or something like you can check, but this 'I' which is aware of existence, you cannot see and you cannot think. It is just known, but independent of these modes of knowing. It is self-knowledge.

Ananta

So simple, and so simple for you because you do not apply your intellect to it for a moment. 'Yeah, I know where he's going, but do I really know I am aware?' And then you try to compute it and get stuck in this bickering, doubting thing. Then it is not intuitive. And it is... is that it is nothing? We take an Aarti, of course, but that is a thought. Anything that you can think is just a thought. So anything that anyone can think is just a thought. What we mean by 'just a thought'? That a thought is completely unable to accurately represent reality. It is 'just a thought.' It is completely unable to accurately represent reality. So if it is reality that we are after, but thoughts that we are buying, then it's like we went shopping for tomato but just looking in the potato section. But most of us are doing that in spirituality. 99.99% are looking for tomato, wanting tomato, buying potato, and then wondering why the pasta is not coming out right.

Ananta

What is it that we want? We want self-knowledge. We want the truth which is unchanging. Listen. But where do we go looking? In the realm of change. What will you find there? You go to the realm of thought. A thought is not unchanging. If you go to the realm of perception, you have never met anything that just comes and stays. The perception is constantly changing. So how, where to find unchanging? Look in the other direction. Look at where looking is coming from. What do you find? Yourself has no thing. Intuitive, not as a perception. We have a report about the connection not being so good. Is it fine for everyone else? On top, you've seen that a thought gets them. The next one is... so what that means is just being doesn't exist. If you can conclude it, it is not true. All your conclusions are made up, even those conclusions based on the words of satsang itself. I am speaking pure nonsense if you try to hold on to this as a piece of some truth. Forget about it. To lose that heart is to lose every reference that you can make to yourself because it is just a thought. And a thought is to destroy the reference to something posing as reality but never really even... at the thought that contains terms which are the most honored: self-awareness, absolutely. As long as they exist as terms, as information, they are no longer these terms. Then you will use these words just as mediums of communication, not as reality.

Ananta

It's just a thought. We just picked one thought or another. A thought will come that 'my humility has probably died.' Everything, both are based on... it's because the mind is a very good lawyer. It will convince you about any other. 'Look here, arrogance. Look here, arrogance.' And tomorrow the routine is to look here, 'Humility. Look here, humility.' 'I don't want this also, my humility is not like this.' Then the day after, the problem will become something else. 'All I have is desire. Look here, desire. Look there, desire.' They are just thoughts. Because if you try to chase them that way, you will not resolve it. Is it everywhere? 'I see now arrogance is position. Let's fix it.'

Ananta

The mind is a very good lawyer. It will convince you about any other. 'Look here, arrogance. Look here, humility. Look here, humility.' I don't want this also. My little novel is like this. Then after, the problem will become something else. 'All I have is desire. Look here, desire.' Look, that is just thoughts. Because if you try to chase them that way, you will not resolve it. Everywhere I see now, arrogance is positioned. Let's fix that arrogance. No, I'll leave the thought. Say there is nobody who can be arrogant. All there is, is not saying who are you. So the arrogant one is the tenth child of a mother who had no children. If you keep diagnosing the elements of the non-existent one and saying, 'What medicine does it do?' I know what's going to happen then.

Ananta

Next one says, 'Thoughts require use of the language that you know.' Yes, it is always composed of words. So we are only bound by words. The only prison is a word prison in our heads. That is why I keep reminding everyone: don't make a new prison out of words of the tongue. So what I'm providing here is not words to live by; it's words to leave by. With these words, leave everything, including them. Nowhere are these examples easy. But anyway, when I started going to satsang, then you feel like you go to the Master to hear some words that you can live by. But I don't want the words that I use here for you to live by. Your life doesn't need words. So use these words so that you can leave this. Otherwise, we just keep thinking that silence means to keep them out. True silence is the absence of this word prison. Do not confine yourself in any conceptual boundary. Going to the wrong door, no joy will come from that.

Ananta

Don't try to figure it out. What you wanted, focus on who you want it for. It is the same guy posing the seemingly better and better questions. And you can spot it this way: when the question becomes like, 'I'm not talking about me anymore, I'm just starting to talk more universally about the world,' it still smells of intellect. The same oppressor wearing better clothes. 'But I have reformed now. I have some value.' I have the tomato—pretty good example. So those are the masters. If the Master finds our middle digging, digging, digging: 'What you looking for?' 'I'm looking for tomatoes, Master.' 'What you digging for them?' This mistaken potatoes to be tomatoes. That which comes on this side of your perception, this side of 'I am'—because a lot of stories can be perception-less—the 'I am' like this, actually 'I am' like that. Time is on that side of 'I am' with all these potatoes. What is on the other side? Before 'I am,' only there you will find yourself. So it doesn't matter how good your suppose is. This is really good. So I enter into this. If you're going to think about it expecting to find the truth, then that is the meta-stories.

Seeker

How do you think? That's what he was saying. What is intuition? What is intuition? Which is going to be another thought then. Is it just a thought? Is heart intuition?

Ananta

Unless that... don't do that. Door is open. As the witness, as the witness, can you not stay as a witness? What else can you stay as? The sense is there, but that you are even witnessing. Even the movement of this blob of sensations, as if it is staying as a participant, even that is witnessed by the witnessing. So that which is the blob of sensations can never become the witness, and that can be nothing other than the witness. So what is that instruction for? It is just a thought. And what that thought represents, or the pointer it represents, is to not take yourself to be that which is that blob of sensations. But we must take it to mean as if you have to fixate your attention there or something like this. It is always staying as the witness, and the sensation can never become the witness or stay as the witness. So it is just a reminder to not take yourself to be that which you're not. So remain as yourself, or remain as the Sakshi, remain as the witness. It is just a reminder that you are not this moving bucket of sensations.

Ananta

So maybe different another walk out of bed today, something a little more. That's what you can never predict about these blobs of sensations. What do you take yourself to be? Do you take yourself to be somebody who had an awakening yesterday? What do you take yourself to be? What do you feel is represented? Nothing. Thoughts enough? Not yet. I know that today the doubt chose to come up. What do you take yourself to be? This chocolate little fish is looking scared because you feel like you'll lose all of this representation. We lose something there, but actually that's when you meet. Guess what? Begin story, begin all that. Move out of your stillness, become fresh. All our representations were so stale. Same old stuff. 'This is what I believe.' Okay, take it all, Master. Yes, yes, I know it's all nonsense. 'But I can't leave all your part. I can't leave it, Father.' That's a cop-out. Snap out. It will call you again.

Ananta

And what I'm describing in a very dramatic way is this our day-to-day life. Every moment you are fresh and free. We this is a way to stop, remind you of some things that you love. This is our car exactly. But no, now this voice will come: 'But what about my moving? You got so angry yesterday. Did you hear what you said? That doesn't sound free.' And you're back to yesterday. Forget tomorrow, forget all this. This is nonsense. There is no such thing as the past. Please, disbelief as if it's so obscure. No, what we're saying is your reality. You're living in what I'm saying. Personal to keep chipping away. Having lunch, this shiny object is false in front of it. Strange things happen. Things follow. The sky is the context in which in the sameness we need to value. So I'll focus on these questions now.

Ananta

So you heard that I started thinking about it. If you let our job... what are you actually? Come on, let me tell anybody. So tonight, beautiful. Okay, I'll tell them to bring... misinterpret things by... see the line. There's God. Fresh waters here. Don't change it for some stale ideal factory. A divine presence is here. The very being leaves the light of this new evidence, not some stale ideal for being, not some past discovery. Now, who's giving light to this now? Such a simply burst. The life that you perceive, who gives life to that light? Your very existence. Building this dream appears in your light and creates back into it. Won't be your own self. This dream character is very provisional. So hate and truly, this could be done in the next moment, might never show up again. Now, what you want to keep this one? What can you give to it or dynamics? This appearance along with his freedom for that dream character who doesn't even exist.

Ananta

And I say, what are you taking yourself to be? It is no different than asking what are you playing as? Plain as if you are. And whatever you could see would be the same life. Whatever you could say with the same line. And this blob of sensation, what slowly does it have? The same sensation yesterday? Did you see yesterday this happened to me? And to be disciplined, go through the same sensation, constantly changing. I thought speaking of comedies. Do you think? Would you really take to be seriously? 'This is my reality, darling.' Yesterday I heard the stories, right? Don't have to check me. What are you checking? Yeah, yeah, take my word for it.

Ananta

So when I ask, for example, all I'm asking is that is it not doubtable? And if it is doubtable, forget it. Hold on to only that which is beyond doubt. Right? What do we really know? Because the rest is all pretense. That's so brutally shared like that. So when we say, 'This is what happened to me yesterday,' yesterday is made of 'me,' is made of 'happened,' is made up. Made up in what we did to him. Imminently doubt. Business. Because the most common thread in all these stories, which is the 'me,' because the reconstruction of this 'me' will deconstruct all this to 'me.' Because all of them are centered around this non-existent. Don't have to do any work. Remember the potato-tomato? So digging, you're not gonna find tomatoes. If it needs resolution, it is not the truth. If you can figure it out, it is not the truth. If you can find it or lose it, it is not the truth.

Ananta

So how to find tomatoes? Look, the tomatoes you need an axe. Put your toes in additionally. What attacks? It is a Zen axe. Or this doesn't represent. Wants to say is more most powerful. You say it is 'Mu.' Yeah, beautiful story, Mu. I mean, no. Is this the truth? No. Is that the truth then? No. If they know to know nothing, is it? No. I can never find it. No. Have I found it? No. It's a beautiful coincidence. Of course, this club. Does the dog have Buddha-nature? No. I suppose we are the most popular ones. No. The good Buddha-nature? No. Wait, no.

Ananta

And what happened is that teachers like Nagarjuna, they were attacked by their own community to put this name. 'But you only getting everything and why you call yourself a Buddhist?' You see? Then you're denying that there is Buddhism then. So the teacher explained that you're misunderstanding to take the concept of anything to be reality. With the same clinging, it is the same thing. Equal suffering and goods. So it is the same clinging, and even if you're clinging to the highest notions, it is still suffering. So to be able to you all of this, it is the same as well. Chancellor's point in our school. So there is no actual debate in reality. You can't resign. Go beyond concept, go beyond yourself. Go to your Swaroop, which is the most direct experience of yourself beyond all other means of knowing. There is a simplicity of self-recognition. So both the projects with the singing of the River Thames and the wood is the particular the same, but the means of expression. What isn't to be? Thank you all so much for being in satsang today. Satguru Sri Mooji Baba Ki Jai. Guru Purnima Ki Jai.