How Many of You Are Still Hiding Behind An Idea That I can Juggle Both Head and Heart?

I have the same observation but from a different standpoint. It's like when you tell a child that Santa doesn't exist, once he knows that, he can't go back to being himself. But we are able to go back and believe in Santa Claus all the time. Please help us understand.

So it's a tough one, because if the child was going to believe that it is Santa Claus, you see, and it is playing that special role in the world and it has to do all of this, then it may not be as easy as buying the child some candy and being over it. Because the grief you feel over something, the amount we suffer about something, is to the extent of the tie we had with the 'I' identity with that. So our child may be deeply identified with Santa, but it will not become the core of their identity, and therefore for them, it is replaceable in some ways. Here we are talking about the very core which is at the center of all the relationships. So we are not saying step by step, 'Okay, you have no partner, you have no father, you have no mother.' You're going straight at the core and saying you that you thought yourself to be does not exist. And that is a lifelong or I don't know how many lifetimes long habit. But what I'm trying to do is zero in on that. Can we zero in on the distinction of the knowing of the self?

Yes, but that is what you are knowing. So that is the outcome of the knowing in the sense that I know I am formless.

So you could have read a scripture also and said, 'I know I am formless,' you see. So that is replicatable in the content of thought as well. I'm saying that just in the quality of the knowing—it's a subtle sort of question, but it's worth exploring—in the quality of the knowing that I am light on towards... you said, 'I know I am,' and also then what the further things you added to that, saying because 'I am' knows itself and I am it, therefore no distance. So all of this could also be conceptual information. You could have written this in a book and somebody could have read it and said, 'This is the truth about me.' But in the way that you're saying it, what is the qualitative distinction between the two types? Not the knowledge itself, but if it is me, I can just... you can automatically know without anybody immediately. One is linear. You can only understand one concept at a time, although the concept may be broad-ranging, so it may cover a lot of things, but you cannot really understand seven things at the same time. But intuitively can you? So I took a leap. I realized I used the word intuition. Is it linear? Could my proposal be true that as you're being induced, as self-knowledge is apparent to you, then everything that can be known is also known? Is that to go too far? It's quite possible. And even that possibility can be affirmed, not conceptually, because to the mind what I'm saying is absurd. How can you know everything at the same time? So the mind by its very nature and its proposal is limited. Everything is a definition of something, and a definition by definition is... are we seeing this? As I've been saying, we're changing the operating system. We are starting to see that most of our life we spent under the signaling of the mind, under the instructions of the mind. And now in session, we are being introduced to a different sort of operating system which is not linear, and even to call it universal would be too limited in some way. Yes, and speaking softly, softly because I feel like everybody is listening too hard to get the point across simply. What I'm saying is that they've been operating under a limited sort of operating system, which is where we know things in a linear fashion one by one. Because if I announce twenty-seven things in one moment and tell me what you learned, it is not possible because the messages or concepts can only come one by one. Whereas what I am proposing to you is that in your heart, all that can be attained, all that can be known, happens instantaneously. Now the litmus test of that is not to go to the mind and say, 'Okay, what did I find out?' The test is the heart itself. Is it clear to everyone? Let's see if we can take everyone along. Hello, you're with us fully, or any confusion or courage? Because most in the world have glimpses of this, may even have moments of clarity about this, but really it's not been pointed out this clearly to them. And they don't really recognize except the few moments where the mind cannot defend what is being perceived or make sense of what is being perceived and the mind falls away. Most of life has gone under the domination or the operation of this mind. Yes, so this itself is the first giant leap, that our way of existence, our way of being, has been the way of the head and not the way of the heart. Use that. Whatever knowledge, guidance, information, planning—everything can be left to the heart and we don't need to conceptualize it. We don't need to put it into thought. So now we're going to take one more giant leap, because that's how it's coming now, and you have to confirm this: that as you move away from the domination of the head to the staying in the heart, the protagonist of the story has changed. Tell me if it is true.

Yes. Yes.

The protagonist of the story, which seemed to be at the center of our existence when it is driven by mental narrative, is no longer to be found. This 'he' becomes weaker, weaker, weaker. Can it be weaker in a way proportional to how much you still rely on the head? Because in the sense there are still some signs of it in our heart. How much we still may be referring to the head too. We may have made certainly a category. Certainly you may have made a category saying, 'Oh, but this is not spiritual, this is about something about my work or bank work. For that I need to go to the head because my heart cannot guide me what to do there.' And to the extent we feel like our life still depends on the voice of individuality, to that extent we will still buy into our own individuality. Thank you. Thank you.

Can it be that without referring to a mental, emotional, the voice of individuality, we still have a weak sense of personality? But not until now. In the sense that... what do you mean we haven't been able to get there? It is asking that right now the switch seems possible. Yes, as you switch out of the head into the heart, are there remnants of individuality still there lingering in the heart itself? So there is no such one with the directory, no such protagonist who is at the center of our narrative as we switch out from a linear sort of intelligence, which is one-by-one thought-piece intelligence, into the intuitive insight which is all at once or nothing at all. It literally is all or nothing. You cannot be half intuitive. You cannot say, 'I got half darshan of God, I'll get the other half in a minute.' But it's always all or nothing. But further, or sometimes when we are in the flow...

Yeah, that's what I mean by saying weaker and weaker. In the sense that the flow of the past, the habits or whatever are there, that's when my experience tells me that the person is still there but he's weak. I also know that with a little effort I can step back, but I have to make that effort as a special effort, like in satsang, sit down for meditation.

Exactly, exactly. So when I'm in a situation and if I have to remind myself, yes, I can step back, but if I don't, I go in the flow. And that's when the person, not the individual, is still there.

So that's... you know, there's no difference in what we're seeing. I'm also saying that the extent to which we still rely on our head is the extent of personhood that we still experience. But I'm just asking whether organically, to not refer to the head, but to refer to the head as the source of all itself, is it possible for that to claim a limitation for us, to be in a limitation in the light of this intelligence? That's good. Because still 'I' remain when we switched from head to heart. Because the doubt arises: is it the heart or is it the protagonist, policeman, thief, justice? The first step is to clearly identify the qualitative taste, the fragrance of the heart versus the oppression of the head. So this is very important. This is the first step. And then now follow only the fragrant one. Although only the fragrant one, then does the doubt arise in the fragrant one? The doubt arises only in the stinky one. So of course, the church of the one who is now singing like it is under attack would be to try and fight back. And the doubt is one of the instruments of the fight back. We doubt everything, we doubt the validity of all of this. 'All of this is on paper, I don't know, is it really true?' But that is something that you, that aspect of Consciousness playing as you at the moment, has full power over and full choice about moment to moment. You can decide. You cannot decide in the future. Firstly, let me go back to the first point itself because that is the radical one. In smaller gatherings, I feel like I want to take everybody along. So anybody who's feeling like they don't really have a sense of what I'm saying when I'm saying that there are two types of operating systems: one is the way of the mind and second is the way of the heart. Clear and apparent? Now you can notice that the point about the stubbornness of individuality to fade away completely and the doubting nature of it—all of that comes still from the old operating system. It does not come from the new one. And there would be no point in saying all of this if you as Consciousness did not have the power to take the call, did not have the power to switch out from the head to the heart. Then all of this would just be an academic sort of research.

Of the heart, clear and apparent. Now you can notice that the point about the stubbornness of individuality to fade away completely and the doubting nature of it—all of that comes still from the old operating system. It does not come from the new one. And there would be no point in saying all of this if you as Consciousness did not have the power to take the call, did not have the power to switch out from the head to the heart. Then all of this would just be an academic sort of research. But it's not academic research; it's actually the only alive decision that you can make. And Bhagwan said this in so many words; he said if you think you have a choice, then make the choice to step out of the stream of your thoughts.

How many of you are still hiding behind an idea that I can juggle both head and heart? Subconsciously, that's too Freud for us. The mind is—what is the tool that the mind has? What are the tools? So let's see what are the tools that the mind has. It's a great sculptor; we have to give it that. It can sculpt the thought with great precision, like an arrow would feel like it will hit the mark of your belief. We're not even talking about attention. So nobody is doubting its sculpting capabilities in terms of how well, how intricately it can start a thought, like a doubting thought, any type of thought. So it's a master again, there's no doubt about it. But besides the production of that thought and the arrival on the screen of Consciousness, can it do anything? It can only give you the most masterful looking design.

Okay, but attacking the heart is not possible. So let's look at it close here because this can be important, because many feel like if you roam around, how many will talk like this? They will say, 'Nothing my mind says bothers me, nothing. But just the people around me.' So I would just be like, yeah, some of these people around me. Now tell me how somebody in front of you, without you giving belief to your mind, can bother you? Investigate that. Because the power does not lie with any perception, as close as that perception maybe, as close a relationship. Like we were talking about Santa Claus earlier, maybe in your relationship, it is not the appearance of that or the non-appearance of that itself that can cause a feeling. It only has to go through belief in the mind. See that.

Do you feel Consciousness and you can only believe the mind? What can you believe? 'I believe this.' The believer is not the mind, but Consciousness, of course. Of course, allow this conversation would be pointless if that was not the case. Then the conversation would be pointless because the mind is going to be up to its old tricks only. There's no point having this conversation. This conversation, instead of then being a celebration, would be a lamentation. If the power of belief rested with the mind itself and the mind is the oppressor itself, then it's just like showing up together to lament a misery. But this conversation actually is a celebration. Why is it a celebration? Because as you start this, you can drop this. As you can spot it, you can drop it. So belief rests with Consciousness. The power of belief is with Consciousness.

Another point also links with what Anup was saying, and that's why I felt you were saying that you cannot believe that. Can you believe just believe this God? You need a signal, you need a concept, you need a narrative, you need something, some label, something to believe. Your perception you cannot believe or not believe; it does not apply at that layer. So that's why I'm saying people around you, they may say whatever, you know, they may do whatever, but you cannot suffer from it unless you believe a thought. That's a great reclaiming of power. The power of belief comes from where then? That's the main thing. That's why I'm saying this conversation would already be irrelevant if you as Consciousness did not have the power to let go of your belief, to not identify. If the mind is producing it and it is also believing it, there's nothing and you can just sit and moan about it. Then there are no tools being given to you. There is no freedom being offered here. Then you just have to moan about it and say, 'When will this mind stop availing me?' Notice for yourselves whether the producer of the message also has the power to believe it or not. This will observe your next thought and see where the power lies.

When we take attention back to our awareness, that time usually there is neither thought nor belief in the thoughts. So at least by my experience, I am not able to see what is enlisting the belief in the thoughts.

The distinction between attention and belief is clear? Yes, that is clear. So I say, okay, just in normal perception, let the thoughts also come. Don't do any sort of practice where you're moving attention away from something or into something else. Just normally now a thought will come. Now a thought will come. It can be reported only because the attention is on it. Yes, the thought has come is only reported because attention is there. Now, just by virtue of attention going on it doesn't mean that it's accepted as truth or valid. Investigate this, because thoughts can be super assertive. Yeah, the moment attention is directed to a thought, either there is belief or disbelief. Good. Either you reject the thought or you accept it. Both go hand in hand along with attention. You either do it—firstly, it's two steps. They may be like Siamese twins and seem very closely bound, but attention or thought position... attention is the light in which the thought appears. Belief is the tongs that we have that make it give it the truth value. So it's like the conveyor belt is there, the bag comes—that is attention. So picking up the bag is the belief. It is like this: if by virtue of the bag appearing the picking up happened organically, then this conversation would be pointless. Then I would focus on some of your yoga tonight and say, yes, control your attention.

Thoughts really look like that. It's a simple thought. I personally, the thought I don't believe. Okay, but there are thoughts like, for example, I believed I have to study so and so.

If I told you you're a terrible mother, it doesn't bother you? Yeah, exactly. For everything, we can have thoughts which there's hardly like something which everybody is attached to or identified with. What is the attachment or what we call interest or being identified with? It's just the trees that you've nurtured, the trees of thought that you've nurtured. Possibly all trying to—if you have a notion strong that you have a particular problem, then something comes as a solution to that then also. Suppose that you were never thought about becoming a skier in the Alps or something, but you feel like you've been troubled with the state of your life and suddenly the mind offers you, 'If you could just be in the Alps and put on skis,' then that could also be attractive. So it's not always the thought that you've nurtured in that way, but the belief system that you are taking yourself to be your present position as somebody troubled by the current life circumstances. Then when the mind offers some relief from that, which it itself creates, then that is also picked up. So you can see, very, very tricky. If belief or attention, either of them, could be so easily controlled, freedom would be very, very straightforward. But between the two, which is—from my experience, I have to say that belief is much easier to handle than your attention.

To get to the question of what a heart or living from the heart or mind, one of the things that is confusing me is, let's say I have the desire to eat something specific for breakfast. That's arising, and it may happen that I might hear it, may happen that I don't get it. So that's like simple, I would call that simple level one desire. Then when that desire, depending on what you're desiring—so I may decide to play the guitar and then, you know, it's increasing in intensity and influence. At that point, if I go back to the heart and I ask, 'Who wants anything?' or 'Does the heart even want anything?' can anything be added to the heart? The answer is very obvious: no. And it's a very calm, unperturbed state rising, right? And so that dance is, yes, this is true. So you're right that we go from completely oppressed to an oscillated sort of state. So if now, after coming here for eight, nine months, I don't feel oppression, yes. So even if desire arises for eating or playing the guitar or for a person, the moment I go to the heart, it's also... but then the thing that the moderation is, should I now be always this? Any time a desire arises, just go back in? Like you've been challenging us saying, 'Look, you can't do both.' Yes. So figure out which path you want to choose. And then that's scary because it's like also then I'm working on desire.

It is completely life-changing and it can seem very turbulent. And in the middle, that's what happened. I started getting worried that everybody seems too Shanti Shanti. So since that realization came, and partly because of reading that also came, I realized that something was not enough fuel in the fire in trying to produce them. But your original thing that you were saying, I was telling another child that what we are sort of doing at the moment is that we are living in the world and glimpsing at the heart. I want you to live in the heart and glimpse at the world. Like the heart's intention is to stay there. It's actually—your challenge is not a scary challenge. I feel like, wow, that's where I should be, and there's no struggle with that. So it's just like sometimes when you're not paying attention—and attention again is the wrong word—it just slips out before you know it, you're in the Matrix, right? And it's not a scary place; it's very easy to come back. But the question that's arising is, so am I just cutting myself out of the Matrix completely in this?

So the insight is there that everything is actually happening effortlessly in the sense that even the perception of the body itself, I'm not making it happen, or even hearing words in the senses, it's all happening effortlessly, right? So but then to truly accept that in the heart requires completely surrendering the sense of any doership. In other words, if you're even just—if you're not even you are, in fact, the thing is you are witnessing your own light of your own Consciousness. You're witnessing even your own body and all your senses. You have nothing to do with the functioning of any of that. But then that part about acceptance of that in the heart...

This is already the voice of the heart or the calling of the heart itself, so it doesn't have to be accepted in the heart. I'm just pointing this out so that we're not sort of getting into any trap of trying to get an acceptance of the mind. When you say acceptance, what are we saying? You're saying it's accepted in the heart where the mind is telling me that I'm mad. Yes, I mean, and I'm being told strongly that I'm mad. I'm going mad, and honestly, it's kind of quite a fearful thought, you know? It's literally, you know, 'You are going insane, you're going to lose everything, you see, your life will become like a...'

You have to have full integrity because it's your own suffering. Like many get into this trap that 'My heart is telling me I should go and, you know, chase that woman,' which is like because they can't help themselves, so they have to make it seem like they're—not feel guilty about it. So they feel like, 'Oh, but my heart is clearly saying...' No, but I'm saying that you have the discerning ability now to check for the fragrance or the stinkiness of it. And really, this advice is for you to help yourself because I'm not going to take a classroom and say, 'Oh, you did this, you followed me.' Your own suffering is that test for yourself. So the most auspicious relationship...

Because they can't help themselves, they have to make it seem like they're not feeling guilty about it. So they feel like, 'Oh, but my heart is clearly saying no.' But I'm saying that you have the ability now to check for the fragrance or the stinkiness of it. And really, this advice is for you to help yourself, because I'm not going to take a classroom and say, 'Oh, you did this.' Your own suffering is that test for yourself. So the most auspicious relationships can come out of the heart. And relationships which we may not understand are auspicious may come out—like the guru-disciple relationship is purely from the heart. Why should this man be sitting here saying all this, sorry-sounding stuff? Because somewhere you recognize in the heart.

So I think where this confusion is happening, and using the litmus test of—and again, it's the checkered mind, unfortunately, so maybe there's a way out of that—is whether it's to play the guitar or to go see this woman. It's like, 'Oh, if you have this and you know that the heart doesn't need anything and you experience it,' what he was saying, and what is this that's going on? And so then, 'I therefore must not be in the heart.' Yes, and all of this is just the mind. Yeah, so it has presumed already that the heart doesn't want anything. It is presumed already that the heart doesn't want anything, but sometimes you can want the higher sacrifice. If you look at any Master, you will see that that is not true. You can be guided from the heart in a very strong way at all costs.

So once you take away that presumption that the heart will never want anything anyway, so what's the point? Once you take that out, then you really meet the fire in this, because you actually can never predict what the heart will want in the next moment. And that is very scary to the mind, because the mind has made all these linear life, all these security—built the house, built relationships, friends, all of this thing. And the heart next moment says, 'Out of here, thank you. Okay, move to the Sahara Desert.' So this is the cure that is very natural as the movement from head to heart happens. So it's good. Don't fall for that trick where the mind itself says, 'You only got me.'

So Father, you're saying that the intuitive prompting may prompt you to do something drastic? It's possible? Something that is socially very unacceptable?

Absolutely. It can only prompt you. It is still you as Consciousness who will make that choice, accounting or not. The heart is prompting to you.

This is a relationship of one to God or one to everything. It's not a one-to-one relationship. And I don't even mean that the Master will have many disciples; that's not what I'm saying. You may approach it as one-to-one, but actually it is not one-to-one, because if there's still one strongly held here, then that is not a true Guru anymore. That's what I'm trying to do. So it's like, one of the features of the guru-disciple relationship is like trying to grasp onto air, because you just can't grasp. Because in the world you play these games, like this little game like that, centered onto the relationship, and you can get a relationship going. Who's the Master one day? 'Oh, I love this, I like this.' Then, 'No, I don't like this at all.' You cannot do it.

One of the greatest gifts: the Master doesn't want your relationship first. Then you can find what the Master is from, because there's no greater gift, there is no greater than nothing else actually that the Master has to offer. I'm here for that.

Can you speak a little more on—and maybe you have done in the past, I probably won't remember—on desire arising from heart or mind or both, or other kinds? Like, the proposal of making something better from the head, in that 'I'll be so much better if she was in love with you,' this kind of relationship-type thing. And the proposal from the heart saying that you should have a relationship. There's no guarantee that if it comes from the heart it's going to work out, okay? I thought I was asking because earlier, whether you can smell the difference between the prompting from the head and heart. So that which comes from the heart you can follow, and that which comes from the head you must never. So desire could be coming from either?

I am the word desire, if you stretch it out, yes. Guidance.

I just wanted to ask if you, when you're getting some very, let's say, strong negative thoughts from the mind, they snap out of it. How can you take your reality to be like without form and, you know, like you know you're just, you know you just sort of everything will crumble? You know, the center of the mind is telling you, giving you signals like that.

The inquiry, all the pointers in satsang, are actually the refuge or the antidote against these mind attacks. The mind's nature is to attack, and it tries to find the most appropriate time to attack. And many times we will see, what is it? What should I approach me when it does succeed? The moment you notice it, go back into your heart.

So I've actually outlined this to some extent where you can just start, ask a simple question: 'What do I want? What do I want?' And then we're going to say, 'I want this' or 'I don't want this.' So first you have to free yourself from the shackles of that individual way, because in that time to juggle both, 'Okay, I want this, what is God?' So first we have to come to emptiness. I'm going through this discard, using whatever point, whatever refuge. Just become open, just become empty. God will enter only the empty vessel. So look at the nature of what you want, and whether you want or you don't want is the same thing you can do. Your heart returned to an emptiness, return to openness until you...

Still seems persistent, we are most won't now, but if it still does, you can ask and say, 'Oh God, what would you have me do?' So in the light of this inquiry, you'll find that staying in the heart, staying in God's light, everything starts to move on its own. And if it doesn't move, then continue to wait. No matter how pressured the situation you may see, don't rush.

That's why the decision that God at all costs was made first, because the mind can rush you. It will fool you and say, 'No, no, but this, but this now.' Here, what is the worst-case scenario? Spend your whole life—and this came out as if it will be reassuring, but actually what is the worst deal? You spend your whole life waiting for God's answer and He's going to be silent. That's the worst case. This life you have to give Him.

There is a business and content of awareness, whatever awareness is aware of. So where does God come in here? Awareness and content of awareness, in the sense that if we look at—like we can play because God is a label, you can place it where you want. Usually in satsang we have placed it at the first breath of awareness, which is Consciousness, like 'I am.' This is like, 'I woke up.' This being, this Consciousness, is what we usually call God. So we may call awareness as the Absolute; the rising of being or Consciousness is God. And then the palpable presence of the core of the business which we can recognize. So actually it's up to you where you want to place the label God. You can place it on God, then God becomes like Brahman. Personally, I prefer not to place it anyways.

Yes, that's fine. The last broadcast I also said if you don't want to use God because we have some conditions around the word, when I say God here, whatever is your preferred label.

So it is very fragrant, right? I can smell the fragrance. Beautiful. Okay, but the mind is so tempted with the world of it. How do you resist that temptation? It's like the mind is tempted, tempted by the world, and you are tempted by the mind.

So you stop. Let the mind do what it's doing. What does that mean? So when you see mind is tempted, so the mind is tempted means that you see something in the world and it says, 'I want that.' That's just temptation. But just by the mind saying 'I want' doesn't mean that you want. Just because the mind is saying 'I want' doesn't mean that automatically you want. It's being aware that this is just a thought.

So just a quick recap for you, because maybe you joined at the stage where I was already starting to presume that everybody's heard this before. And so some of you heard the ATM example from me. Suppose we were in an upside-down world where everybody was always peaceful and free and living in the light of God. Then I want to also experience some misery because all this contentment doesn't seem like so much fun all the time. So how do you go to—how do you get misery? So you go to a special satsang where they teach you how to get misery. Suppose this was that satsang. You want misery, what do you have to do? You have an ATM machine that you don't know about. Like in satsang we are saying you have a heart that you don't know about, then for those who would have to say you have a mind that you don't know about.

What is this ATM machine? The mind. It is the Anytime Misery machine. So how do you approach this ATM machine? How do you use it? First you put your attention to it. Your putting the attention to it is the ATM card. Putting attention to mind is the ATM card. It's like this whole technology was built to use in a satsang example. So you put the attention to the mind card. What happens? By putting the card, you get—or you have to do something else? You have to put one PIN number: Personal Identification Number. That is which is nothing but identification or belief. So if you give attention to the thought, if you give belief to the thought, then you have unlimited misery available to you. But try doing it without these two steps. Do not do it.

You can try without putting attention. So you will put attention on the chant. You cannot suffer if your attention is fully on it. You cannot suffer. And that's what many, many practitioners of spirituality in this country and others do; they will find something else to focus their attention on. So you can focus without attention, then you can see with attention but no belief. So all the thoughts can come. That is them: keep your front door and back door open, thoughts are visitors, don't serve them tea. If the attention was not on it, then they would not be visitors. You can claim the visitors are there, but you are not serving tea. Serving tea means there's another step that answers also earlier questions.

That you are the Zen master who said, 'Keep your front door and back door open. Thoughts are like visitors. Let them come and go. Don't serve them tea.' So if it was about attention, then you would not see them coming and going because your attention was on something else. But what is the process of serving tea? This is how you identify. So, 'I want this relationship' or 'I want to do not,' whatever the scale of the wanting to be. Then just by its proposing that it wants this technique, attention has gone on, doesn't mean that belief can also go automatically. Consciousness, because you are Consciousness. So when we said the first printed book to come from here, 'I will become Consciousness speaking with Consciousness,' this was just a reminder of that. It is Consciousness. Your minding itself is strange that it has the power to not accept what the mind is saying to be true. Beliefs. That's what we were saying earlier. The mind itself was then the proposal and the acceptor. In both sides it is there; there's no scope for freedom. Then what you could only try is the yogi practices or the things to turn with your attention. But it's not like that. Both the locker keys of attention and beliefs have to be turned for the locker to open. Unfortunately, in this locker there was only misery. This would have to open, but you are...

To not accept what the mind is saying to be true, believes—that's what we were saying earlier. The mind itself was then the proposal and the acceptor; in both sides, it is there. There's no scope for freedom then. What you could only try is the yogi practices or the things to turn with your attention, but it's not like that. Both the locker keys of attention and belief have to be turned for the locker to open. Unfortunately, in this locker, there was only misery. This would have to open, but you are starting to recognize that it is to be miserable that takes more effort. You should do attention busy; there's so much work. Ask me if somebody said—not even the suffering that came from the acceptance of the thought to be true—but if somebody said, 'I have to sit and believe all my thoughts all day,' you see, and but they would not hurt me, even that would be so much effort. Oh yes.

We have been so fast as a usual thought from the mind and reaction as a defense toward it is just heard. This is so...

That's what I said, it's a master sculpture. And because I've heard these tricks now for a long time and I'm very familiar with the usual responses, okay. Fast also replace the automatic PCT. So when you're trying to say 'fast,' you're actually trying to say it's automatic. Yeah, but it's not. Okay, this is the mindful thing. It's very fast; I'm not denying what you are saying because, yes, Consciousness would have the power. So see how quickly it created. It's very fast, yeah, but that thought came slowly. Because maybe if the instruction was fresh, the mind takes time to put up the right defenses. So as it was hearing, it was not immediately... whether as I was saying, it's just Consciousness speaking with Consciousness, something was being heard and the mind was like, 'What?' It's very far. It seemed like a very humble sort of defense, right? It is very devious. You see, fast for whom? As for you as Consciousness, you are beyond time. For a person, what is fast for Consciousness?

So, so this is good. So good we did this recap because I haven't done it for quite some time. So these are the basic building blocks of what I'm then saying. These are the basic building blocks because if that space is not there, if you're not seeing the mechanism by which the mind has older overview, then it will keep selling you stuff subtly and try to interfere and make this like Guruji says: you make chocolate cake but it will mix Monday night, is it? So in satsang, what you hear in is life-changing, but if your interpretations and additions from the mind can just change the whole construct of the painting, and that's what it attempts to do. Everything. But I don't want to leave this kind of insipid life because all the sages have been commanded to do with... so that's why many times I say, don't add anything to what I'm saying. Don't add anything else when I say of your own; at the moment, it is from the mind. Don't add anything from your mind to what I'm saying because it has this very sneaky habit, you see. You're saying, 'Ah, the right way to understand what he's saying is like that,' you know? And very soon, like see it later, what did you get? If you're saying something which is completely different from mine, it could play like that. This small, certainly going this way, just change the angle a little bit, it changes the shape completely. And this is that—this is one of the mind's in-case tricks. It will be the interpreter of the words of satsang, you see, as if the intelligence of the heart which is sharing these words is not enough. 'This is what I understood out of it.' And this is a kind for deprogramming because in class, like in good schools, we were told to make it our own. 'What did you understand out of this?' You see, that's not that you have to just follow, because everything that's being shared is like a live experiment for you to do. You don't make an understanding of what I'm saying, just check live.

Okay, the operating system, the difference in the older way of operation, which is mental operation and slavery, we're going to the intuitive light, moving to God's life as the guiding light of our life, which is the only stability that we can get. So I'm returning back to the older tracker. Why is this important? Because if we base our life on things which are so flimsy, then our foundation is weak. The under-appearances through our senses, that's so weak. Who comes on the stairs? And also with our mental constructs of what we like, what we don't like, what should be done, what should not be done—it's all friends. And that's why most of humanity is spending all of their time on this sort of very flimsy and anxious sort of mode. There's no real strong foundation to our lives till we meet it in our heart. It's very beautiful because it is constantly everywhere available; it will never desert you. Thank you.

But as you put this into practice, you realize that life is so simple. You don't have to your hand, you don't have to exert your head and say on how that and this and that, what's gonna happen? See, none of that. The day will show up. God's life will be there. God's presence is there. This body may be there or not; some other body will be there. Is there. But what is there to worry? You don't have to decide. Any decision that has to be taken will show up in your heart. Otherwise, straight from heart to action is like this sharing of satsang—straight from heart to edge. Such a simple, easy way to live. There's no right or wrong. The right or wrong, good and bad, evil and things which the human arrogance tells us that we can determine, we actually can't. Yeah, and definitely, definitely can't better than God can. So I am not saying we let it all go and become like nihilists and say, 'Ah, there's nothing.' But the determination of this can only come from the heart. Like I took a simple example of whether to give money to the background. Now humanity can spend the next ten thousand years, all seven billion of us, trying to figure out what is the right answer to this, but we can't because even in this simple decision, there are millions of variables.

This is the thing. So that's why I'm saying that also don't allow your head to make the guide to be that. Only for big decisions go to the heart. Does the heart go to it? The action will unfold in the flight or the guidance will come. If it doesn't come, go on. It doesn't come, go hungry. It's okay. It probably doesn't really matter, right? Even if a swingy you take so much time, as long as you spend so much time that you can just accept that as what's happening. No, I'm just saying the pressure of decision-making which mostly we got... so maybe the ones who are not feeling, I'm still saying you're feeling anxious is because we sort of made our systems around our strategies. 'I'll go to my favorite restaurant' or something. Or maybe the strategy is to be spontaneous, like you can even believe that. But really, there is no mental strategy which can give you that strong foundation. Must be just to follow the heart, follow God's life. That's only the way to live.

This mind has a response to where it says shows lack of time or in which which way it Islam...

Yes, the mind—that is very good to lately distinguish between mind and heart. The mind will always rush too fast. 'We don't have time. You want to wait for God to answer? We don't have time.' It's like that. It uses that. That is why first I made it really with you saying that what, what is our deal? So then your life is mine, your life is the Master as your life is God. So whose time is God wasting? That's why we moved from our lip service spirituality to a true one. I think my life is surrendered to you, Guruji, and to God and everything. It may do whatever it wants, but I can't wait for guidance about this because ten minutes will be wasted. That which you may consider to be a stream of time may actually save you lifetime.

Like I took some examples of this and I said that suppose Guruji had not followed his heart and quit his job, the first may not be sitting here. His mind is rushed him and say, 'No, no, but you have to take a call and take the right call because you have no money in you know, you have to follow them.' If this is amazing. If Bhagavan felt crushed when he felt like he's dying, rushed to his mom and said, 'Take me to a doctor,' and time followed his heart and my heart said, 'If I'm dying, I want to see you,' you're sitting here because of that. So many generations wait a hundred and twenty-something years later. So that's an important thing.

Now once—and this sort of is a good segue into the second aspect of what I wanted to say—so this is the only strong foundation for how to live our life. But it's not just a strong foundation for how to live our life because it is aware of past and future, so it can guide us. It may save us a lot of time. It can, it is. But now I want to introduce you to something else. The same heart, the same light—is it not the light in which you can see this light of the world? Is it not the very light or existence itself? So these are Guru presence, the presence of God within us, God's light. It's not just a guiding presence, although as a guide itself it is the only true guide that we can follow. But this very light is also the creator, preserver, destroyer of this taking escape. Where does it come from? But God asked the question: in whose light do you see the light of the sun? If you say the light of the sun is the biggest light, but in whose light do we say seen that? In whose light is the dream state projected? If you cannot explain that about this so-called waking state. So it is that very same heart. It is the very same line, God's side, that is not just the intuitive source of all true knowledge; it is all aspects of Consciousness.

I was saying that the trust in God's life should not just be because God's light is aware of past, present, and future and therefore can give us the best guidedness, but it is the very light which creates this apparent past, present, and future. So if you go and the path by the future is not as straight line and second stone as you might believe it is. So in following the light of God, you are actually changing the structure of time and space itself. I know I've just taken abroad, you've taken many bodies, but this one is too much for the mind behind me and I started doing some tantrums. But this guiding light is also the light of Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh—all those aspects of Consciousness which we may have reverence to. These aspects of this very same event. Thank you.

As you're moving away from the older way, the way of the head, to the way of the heart, you're changing who this is about. Or to close the way of the head above, who is the way of the heart of this God? Imagine the last difference, moving from such a limited not even grain of sand to that in the light of which the greatest aspects of Consciousness that we may be in reverence to reappear and disappear in that light. That is what we are going to do for guidance. Now there is a tendency of the mind to make this what I'm saying sound metaphorical or poetic. I mean very, very little right now. It's really true right now that God knows right. Consciousness takes birth, and within Consciousness, millions and trillions and trillions of universes and all of their leelas beyond all the dimensions, unlimited dimensions play out. The headquarters with us in our heart. That is the God whose light business. That which is completely unfathomable, unimaginable to the mind, unimaginable in every sense, no matter how awesome painting you try to make.

That is the God that you access through things' presence, been through this intuition. If you get the enormity of what I'm saying, your information to hold on to this measly meaning nullify that God which has been the third bird in every story ever written. That God's presence is in your heart. That God's light is in your heart, revealing itself to you, guiding you about everything. That means the willing self-knowledge, religion, pure beingness, revealing everything that may be unfathomable to the mind. How can we have such magnificence?

Through things, presence, it's been through this intuition. If you get the enormity of what I'm saying, your information to hold on to this measly meaning, nullify that. God, which has been the third bird in every story ever written, that God's presence is in your heart. That God's light is in your heart, revealing itself to you, guiding you about everything. That means the revealing self-knowledge, religion, pure beingness, revealing everything that may be unfathomable to the mind. How can we have such magnificence and enormity in our heart and still become that? That is the power of Maya. That is the power of Maya, that Brahman, to which a human being is nothing at all, can be found in the play as human within the intuitive light, within the Satguru presence, within the presence of God itself. That which gave light to the first day of light, and we witnessed the dissolution of this entire universe, that is the light. That is the one whose light is in your heart.

These are not poetic words. You know, playing very straight, very direct, and not an exaggeration by any means. This is our reality. Maya is the power to pick the trickster over this. What a massive Leela God itself is playing on us, on itself. That this God is willing to respond to our prayer must leave us all awestruck. Don't ever believe that it is an entitlement. Don't ever believe that it is an entitlement. It is pure grace, pure grace, pure love from God.

So, because the greatest force in the universe—and that which is actually beyond any force, and not force, and being and not being—is available to us in this way, availability to itself in this way, the mind has one big trick up its sleeve now. A trick up the mind's sleeve with the spiritual ego. And that is why I'm saying that never treat the presence of God as an entitlement. Never treat God's gift as an entitlement. Always look at it as God's love, with God's grace and God's mercy. Never take it for granted. All that we have achieved, if at all anything, that has been through God's grace.

Today, a touching scene in the movie I saw a few years back, it was called The Two Popes. I don't know if you've seen any. Touching, retiring and handing out the new ones. He says, as a young man as I was growing up, I could hear God's voice. Now I stopped hearing it, and that's why I want to actually hand over. So never take it for granted. Never get into any specialness because that is the very shadow of the spiritual ego itself. It will make it seem difficult to hear, and it can seem impossible to stay in God's light. The instant you think you know, retreat back to your heart.

To this day, every day, I am realizing the depth and beauty of being the servant of God. Just because God in God's grace allows us to experience the oneness of it does not mean that we ourselves, or take ourselves, or anything that can be taken to be anything, to be taken to be anything even close to God. There's an infinite difference between the seeing in your heart versus our claims in the head. This will prevent you from going in the wrong direction. Let's actually go where the words may try to replicate what the heart is showing you, but it is all about the limited ego, the shadow of hell.

There's only one posture available if you are discovering God's light in your heart, and if you can still take a posture, that only posture is to be in service to that light. Not as a claimant of that light, not as the owner of that light, not as that light, if there's a posture still available. Position is the best. If pride comes into you, it was the biggest danger you will encounter on this path. If you have a good antidote in what I offered before, it is to ask yourself: What do I want? Recognize their individual will in that one thing and know that that has to be burnt in the fire of your heart, in the fuel of your satsang.

Otherwise, my loves, I'm telling you that there is no greater defense for the ego itself than other attacks. No greater defense for the ego than our past spiritual experiences. And this will give you the fire and this time to follow God's guidance in your heart. Then our spirituality goes truly from being about me to being about God. Many of us may still be under the pretend that this spirituality is to help them. Spirituality is only true for God to read the world, God's word of ignorance. Can you please, Aditya, to replace the darkness of Maya with God's light? I am nothing in this. You are nothing in this. We don't even exist. You remember that you will never be enlightened. It's not you that is going to be enlightened. It is only when you get out of the way that the light shines through. That is called enlightenment. When you get over yourself, you get out of the way of the light in your heart, that is enlightenment.

To be inconvenient with God. Thank you. Reasons and rationalizations completely meaningless in human years to, you know, being here. The outcome of your being here working, then you have got out of it. None of that. This is just an oxygen chamber for your heart. It's where you hand over charge to God's light. You allow yourself unburdened with self-image and projections and desires to allow your true life to shine through. A new way of life is guided by the Supreme Intelligence, the creator of all of this, same mother. And you better make friends with the destroyer of all of this also now while it's still around. So that's the only friendship sure to help us. The only friend you can make eternally is this one. Another point, the time this one, this body, is just masquerade. Other instrument has nothing to do with the true reality of the Eternal One.

Bring your fuels to the light and allow the light to transcend them. The switch over from God being for me to me being for God. Anything very simple, that's why his words are concerned. Yeah, my life is for God. So if you truly start to look, you know, this is all your doubts and birth and because satsang, all of these things, books are so widely available today, become part of our regular vocabulary to say surrender, inquiry. But each of these are atomic things. Easily I said everything to you, I am inquiring into my reality. Each of these, either of these, are atomic things. Change your life with no recognition of what they left behind. Your surrender should leave a complete annihilation of what you took yourself to be. That is a true surrender. Relentless chopping of the false self is an inquiry, but that can only happen when you switch sides from you to God.

Your life doesn't become about God and God alone. Let's crack the surface of spirituality to the vast openness that is your true life. Because the ego shadow seems familiar, like maybe that may even now seem for many of us to be the more comfortable option. Don't fall for that. Take a risk. Full-on dive into God fully. So this story of Plato's cave, you heard it? Where there are these prisoners and they were facing the end of the cave. So the sun was behind them, they were tied up and they were facing the end of the cave. So all they saw were the shadows. And they started to mistake the play of the shadows to be their true life. So they would look at the shadows and feel like this is a good day, a bad day, based on how the shadows worked.

By grace or something, I don't know, you don't want it, one got free. And God, she moves right towards the edge of the cave, looked at the sun for the first time. Initially, eyes went blind, too much. But slowly the new way of life started to settle. He realized that this is the true light, I've been living in shadows and shadows, this is a true life. But initially, the light of the sun itself seemed to burn something, like it is too much. Then what happened is that—I'll make a paraphrase version of this—which is that he ran back because he felt compassion for his brothers and sisters in the cave. So he ran back to the cave and said, 'Come, come, I'm going to take you to the sun where there's a tool.' And they all attacked him because they said, 'You want to change our view of life. This is what the world is. You're deluded. Maybe Maya has you or the devil has your hopes.'

People didn't listen. Very original. Some people say that they killed him. The version of the kingdom, in some version they took a long time to listen to him. All the variations are possible. But I feel like it's a beautiful metaphor of anything and living under the ego shadow and then switching over to God's light. Try telling your friends, we know what they're going to say. But we know what they're going to say. They're going to say you are deluded. All of us can't be wrong. The whole world can't be wrong. You are deluded. If I lose their belief systems more than your testimony of the truth, which is fine, that is normal human nature. And yet you have to, in spite of all these apparent challenges, even if you were one in seven billion, even if the sun down nobody, you were one of seven billion, you found this truth, this light in your heart. Not to give it up, not to give it away, because this is God's life. This is God's life which we are blessed to participate in.

Turbulence along the way. Oh, the idea that attempt here is to make it alive for all of you. But more than the world, is the last thing I feel to say, more than the world, the trouble will come from your own allegiance to me, in allegiance to the meaning no more. Your expectations from me, the notion of the ego without which the world has no power. Because if you're surrendered in God's light, then whether you are the guy on the street or the kings of all the universes doesn't really matter. They don't value that which is going to die anymore. You know that's His life.

Switch over your life immediately because there's no time. There's no telling what tempting thought will come your way tomorrow, so convincing that you've been spending lifetimes on it. Another instrument without the light of presence is not worth it. So if you're waiting for your job to be settled, or your marriage to settle, your relationship to settle, for your body to settle, for something to settle, notice that it is an attack on you. It is an attack. It is not just a mind trick, it is a mind attack. Don't be so kind to being attacked by the mind. Switch your allegiance to God. Yes, fear will come, but it has to come because the building is being reconstructed over two foundations.

If it is auspicious, God will still want it. What is the fear about? Don't say God, the Supreme Intelligence, the creator of this universe, whatever power you want to call it, the money. If it's auspicious, what are you losing actually? Why will God not want those species? The sacrifice actually more fearful in our minds, but I can't guarantee that will repeat the fire away. So what then? Any questions? It's all clear? Everybody living in God's light now forever and ever is eternal life. You have a bird, the face was like saying as if you know, but, but yeah.

Versus the regions of the heart. If that smelling is good, you can smell the difference due to the friction. Like what is that lightness of being which is not just the ease, but also there's a light which experience. Taking all the questions.

What is the determinant of auspiciousness? But he didn't bother, unpredicted your environment. Oh yeah, but what determines it, whether something was auspicious or not?

The only determinant is our intuition, is our heart. We can't really say, like I was saying, you can't say good, bad. You don't know in our hands. So if it is God's, then it is auspicious. My individual will be independent of what the seeming outcome may be because we don't really know. There's a feeling of peace is natural with the heart, yes. But our nose should be strong enough to distinguish between this natural rest and peace in the heart and the seeming peace or seeming contentment which is momentary after desire fulfillment, momentary sense of release because the desire is not.

I was saying you can't say good or bad. You don't know. It's not in our hands. So if it is God's, then it is auspicious. My individual will be independent of what the seeming outcome may be because we don't really know. There's a feeling of peace that is natural with the heart, yes. But our 'know' should be strong enough to distinguish between this natural rest and peace in the heart and the seeming peace or seeming contentment which is momentary after desire fulfillment—a momentary sense of release because the desire is not eating you out so much for the moment. You experience it. Never mistake that for real contentment. And there is no desire, but that can also be like when that desire is fulfilled you at that same, you know, make a distinction today because as we saw in the earlier conversation, desire is a tricky word. So we can say God's desire is a worthy desire. Our God's desires were divided. God's will or our desire? Because one way of avoiding the heart is to say, 'Oh, the heart doesn't want anything.' This is a very subtle treatment. That's why I'm saying it's a master craftsman. I know it will say nothing, 'I don't want anything. How can the heart want?' But you can't presume even that, you see. 'I want all my children to be open and empty.' This is a mental desire, could be at this moment.

That's what she said. So many provocations come from the heart. So then there's a very convenient tactic of the mind. It doesn't know. You should be able to distinguish between the contentment that you get when the desire gets naturally fit or when something is auspicious, yeah. So that the causeless contentment is the heart. It doesn't need a reason to be happy and even feel completely alien to anything I've said today pointed out because I'm here for this when you said to make that quantum leap like as awareness all at once.

Yes, you in your manifest beings can know all there is intuitively. Now only we could use it personally. You can't. In that context, he was watching The Chosen. I've only got to episode four or five where Simon is upset and he's fishing and you don't get fish. And in the morning he meets the right step, which is lack of faith because he's not getting what he wants in his regular life. And you know, then the fish appear. And that confused me a lot here, even what you were talking that week and also I think in the last online somewhere, this lady was agitated that, you know, 'God doesn't care for me.' He said, 'Yeah, so it's not interested that much.' And you have to be. So I'm sure there's a good answer to it, but I didn't get clarity in that episode. It's like, what is going on over here? Like Jesus is showing him that his lack of faith is being rewarded by getting fish. This is counter to what we've been hearing. So I don't know.

Yes, I don't know what the answer is, but a few things I've said about this. One is that true or low because of you have a rational reason to follow, or to follow because you've seen something miraculous, you see, is not that big deal. Maybe it was appropriate for the time in which it happened or whatever. I'm saying that for me, true faith is just because you can hear the heart calling now. In another aspect of this play where the different set of people involved, maybe to get people to shift out of just the head to listen to their heart, they may need something astounding to happen in front of them. But here already all of you are here without my head exploding or anything happening. So that is very touching. Feel okay until tomorrow. My head may explode and more people may come along, who knows?

See, normally if I watch that episode, I'd be a little agitated and help me do this on, you know, that's counter towards. And I know that day I was like, 'Okay, grace, grace.' Like miracles are great, yeah.

So grace is not deserved. Like we cannot point to a rational reason to why somebody gets and somebody doesn't really. Yeah, he was pointing and there was a lot of noise outside here. It was the music. And he was right about to say the word and it comes down to something about silence, and the music just stopped. There were moments like that also where somebody's questioning because he's really focused and then there's sound outside and then his finger moves and the sound closes. It's just a coincidence, possible. But it just seems like, wow, it's worth exploring what when students would be actually nice of the whatever that whatever is. And it was raining so hard and it was rising, the water level was rising, and then as he settled down the top, everything just goes green. Everything, it was cooking now we know.

Oh my God, it is a very basic thing to the different levels with the magnetic video of the gods. It covered a lot of levels, yeah. That's able to resonate with everything. But the fear has not moved even a centimeter. We have not gone up also. That's good news. In spite of hearing such big, big things, the fear continues to be the same. I mean, that's another way of making the same report. It has to increase. The reports sound negative when I'm saying there's another way to look at it. I mean, you'll see nothing that we can do. It's all about how is it bothering you? You seem fine.

I mean, I should be able to switch now, but I'm not able to do it. I mean, is there a grace which has to come to do it or...

Okay, what is telling you you've not done it? Don't do that. He's slow. Where will you go for truth?

Yes.

Where did that answer come from? Yeah. So again, now, where will you go for truth? But it is very strong. But it's just a thought, no? How strong can a thought be? Can it be stronger than the presence? Can it be stronger than the space in which it is appearing? Because you are that space. How can anything, no matter how big it is, over the space in this room? It cannot come here. But again, don't get overwhelmed also because some of the children here have been here for like 10 years, long, long times. It's heating into you very well.

The mind's commentary about the mind, it starts after satsang that we have to keep throwing away. That then becomes a checker guy which is my arch nemesis. Often, often before coming to satsang, the mind never used to comment on the mind. Your mind is little something, but mostly exists. Yeah, because it uses all the weapons that the master uses in satsang to oppress you. Yeah, I'm trying to use them for your freedom because it... but because it is words, they can be turned another way. That's why my attempt is first to drop you in the heart before conversations become intellectual and all that. First time, and from there you can all flow. Otherwise, even to see, it's very dangerous. It's the same one, the same guy smells so nice. Are you used to it? Even someone else is speaking, when it comes to ourselves, it's not so easy. Nice joke about this of anyone say anything interesting, everybody else you're like, 'Why can't they just drop it? He's saying so often drop it, drop it. Why can't they drop it?' And then later something important happening, you know, and everybody thinking the same thing about them. You lose objectivity about what we are identified with.

Like the unlimited is saying hello. You see, God is saying hello and the mind will just, 'Oh, coincidence.' We made it meet the unfathomable at the moment by calling it coincidence. So many years, how to stop these interpretations?

This is regarding this, um, this one is the champion. So my question is coming to a spiritual aspect of like, you know, seeking God, right? I consciously try to avoid all of that, any murti or any rituals, okay? So even as the simplest thing is like Ganesha, but you know, I completely avoided it, maybe trying to put that as a new box for me, right? So now my question is, recently when I went to Chennai, my parents had taken me to my village and so somewhere there was some deep connection I couldn't understand or explain also. And hopefully I realized that without my knowledge in the family, it's like, you know, people call Hare Krishna or Jesus, right? Same way we, I used to call the name of that God and it's just so subconscious.

What would you call? How would you call?

I mean, in the male form it is... I mean, we call wonders, female river, something lead to that. And another one is a male form of Shiva. Okay, so my question is, when I started at some point of time, I somehow realized that, you know, I'm already connected to the highest which is the unknown. In Hindu philosophy it is called as the Brahman. So I wish to have this conflict within me like, am I abandoning the smaller words for the highest? And when I went and I could have this very deep connection and love for that, and somewhere it was like a... I can't explain, a lot of guilt, you know? Right. So the question to you is, throughout the journey in my life, I would probably be into many places, many things which has taken me to you right now. When I take a position of abandoning or rather no, so all other forms, somewhere this guilt trip is coming in, you know? I'm feeling very sad, you know, like homesick, you know, when I say that this is the highest and I don't want anything else. So I'm just sharing it, I just want the art around, you know, lie down.

This is exactly the theme of satsang today, so it connects well with that. Like there's no liquid most things, and especially things like this when it relates to devotion and things, there's no conceptual template we can make orders. So when you took a position, you realize you... the way you're saying it clearly, you took a mental position. I think, 'No, highest, lowest, all this stuff.' So be empty of those positions and follow your heart. So if you feel drawn to it in your heart naturally, does it happen? In fact, if you feel drawn to it in your heart naturally, unravelingly follow that. But if you feel like no, then there's no room for that because you have outsourced the decision to God. But the mind is very absolutely... the heart is really just soft, soft. It's oh, nothing is so, so seriously. The mind may seem to give you quicker sort of responses. Good, he's just like fast food, too many calories and no nutrition. I follow them. You live from the heart, live in God's life. That's what I mean by strong foundation. Otherwise, a question like this can become so powerful in our life because you can... I think because right and wrong, good and bad can only be determined by God, only in God's will, not individuals.

Spiritual ego which started building in me when I said that, 'No, I don't do all of this,' when I took the stand, right? It was very strong because you are probably reporting to the maker and whatever the acquired knowledge say, these are difficult, right? So somehow when I went and I just love, right? It was very intense and I couldn't understand how to explain. It was very disturbing also for me, you know, that when you have so much of love which is just resonating with distance and only a thought.

So don't try to think about that which we cannot understand. We already see that you can't understand. Why think about it? It's just fruitless. Only if it's not fruitless, it's like it's got fruits but they are terrible fruits because also would be okay but the stresses of food, the gate is the fruit. Those who are finding the light within me have no excuse not to follow.

Like I don't understand too much of the Lila and the previous references. Like what becomes so evident is that like the theme that runs through is so much hardship, physical hardship, that 2000 years ago they were living in that and yet they made so much of room for the unseen and the formless. And it seems like it's a lot of superstition, but this woman's place for her, I'll see. Okay, their life revolves around it, yeah. In spite of all the hardship, poverty, everything, sure when they eat, when they drink, when they sleep, they get married, whatever they do there. As opposed to that, the world we live in, like everything is so, so superficially defined by the mind that there isn't even a tiny fraction of first place for the formless exactly.

They made so much room for the unseen and the formless, and it seems like it's a lot of superstition, but this woman's place, for her, I'll see, okay, their life revolves around it. Yeah, in spite of all the hardship, poverty, everything. Sure, when they eat, when they drink, when they sleep, they get married, whatever they do, there. As opposed to that, the world we live in, like everything is so, so superficially defined by the mind that there isn't even a tiny fraction of place for the formless.

Exactly. The whole project seems to be the reverse, yeah, of the way to create life in a society where it leaves no room to the unknown. Yeah, define everything. So why would we do that? No, I mean, and we call it progress. It's definitely reckless. I can see how it looks like progress to some, like they have more control. So, you know, even science is an attempt at control. It may look like that to some. The human condition actually is a very strange one because perceptually also, we, like anywhere we look, we are not able to fathom. Like infinity surrounds us everywhere. We look up at the sky, what's up? You can't really make sense of it. If you look in any direction, we don't know. And yet the attempt, even given an intellect which tries to make sense of boxes of everything, to try and exert authority. And the worst sign of arrogance is to really say that I know best for me, although I can't make sense of a single thing, still I know best for me. It is a denial of the infinite presence in a way.

So this ability to play this video, I don't know if that entitles us to someone placing in the food chain, but it's unique to us. I think for a thought to have a meaning, you need to have a box, right? Without the box, like an operating system, it does not have any game. We need to have a box of batteries, yes and no, yes or no, something.

Yeah, I think that's when the mind is very strong to come and put a box. Even when the heart is taking us, you know, it still, it's about how the box is the main time where it will come. So one of the greatest things about having a living Master is through experiencing the possibility of it in your life. Otherwise, in books, the Masters are too far beyond reach to be able to say, 'This is possible for me.' You see a regular guy like this that may have... that's why I don't like too much stuff, you know, where the Masters then become unapproachable and then they seem like special lighting and things like that. So then everybody feels like, 'Oh, they're beyond us.' But actually, the whole message is that it is possible to meet God universally in everybody's heart. That's what every Master is actually trying to say.

So you see someone and you just be like, 'Okay, now that is that, only he can do that.' That is the contrary to the message that I'm trying to give. Some happen by virtue of the following growing to myself when it becomes difficult. Some happens by design where the spiritual ego starts to play out and say, 'Okay, is something really special about me?' Until you start to believe that, you're in trouble. So if you want to put it in a box, don't put it in the box there, that there's something about me. Only put it in the box, right? God has been kind. God's grace has been made before we know it. We have driven my ego, my parents, so many are really moving towards God's light, not catering to the ego by following. It's very rare in the history of the world. Thank you. And yet, of course, at the same time, the blessing was done. May everyone follow.

We notice that the heart is a little ahead of us. The world, like the world of perception, seems to take some time to catch up with what the heart is already saying. That's why I was telling some of them the other day that yes, of course, that which you perceive is the will of God alone, but to meet the will of God directly from God's mouth is much more, much better in some way than to meet it through the projection of God, who may be a tiny thing so easily shocked out of place. This one still enjoys the wonder of everything, the wonder of your own creation and speaking hearts, the creation of God's light in your heart.

God's presence and the head so infinitely, yeah. So I just feel like anyone in this part will get them to this. Like I would wish the mindless, the life of my location to anyone. For viewers have been very sheepish even in my own family, your things not like quote-unquote early day. I'm sending some messages, stop getting any like something.

There's a point till which everything sounds conceptually gone, all of this stuff. So this business becomes a point where you squeeze to such a point that you look for something and then the words start appealing, and we can't predict when that point will be for him. So I'm learning to accept that the presence of love is when there is a turning towards God and that we're going to accept. Create in response to my love before tell him that he gets angry, you keep it to yourself.