God Is Real and God Is Here - 8th May 2026

His availability to us for those of us who haven't come to his apparent darshan or even before that he's available to us here in the form of the Atma which is also called the holy spirit. So God in the form of the Atma within, in the form of the holy spirit within is available to us at the very center of our insides. Whether we call the insides soul or we call them antahkarana, don't worry about the terminology. So what am I saying? He is a reality. He is here. He can be met in our heart.

Spirituality then is that process of coming to the meeting with the spirit. That's why it's spirituality. Coming to the meeting with the spirit and then living in the light of the spirit. To live in the discipleship of the spirit or the light of the spirit is the point of spirituality. So everything that brings us closer to him in our heart is auspicious for us. Everything that brings us to worldly attachment and therefore to suffering is inauspicious to us when we are on the spiritual path. So fundamentally this is all that I'm saying.

Now for each of those points we may speak for hours and hours but really this is the project. Now what is the importance of this project? The importance is that most of us most of our brothers and sisters in the world also are not living in the reality of his light in living in the reality of the light of the Atma the light of the spirit. So they haven't come to that insight. They haven't come to the holy meeting, the intuitive insight to come to Atma darshan or Atma Gyan. So don't get scared of these words. Atma darshan or Atma Gyan only means God is here. I have to meet him. That is Atma darshan. God is here. The knowledge of his presence the knowledge that he is here and what he is sharing with me is Atma Gyan. So don't get intimidated at all by these words.

Now, every sage, every spiritual pathway provides methods by which we come to the meeting with this Atma here. So what we're doing in spirituality is providing pathway to spirit. Now of course in a lot of the world that is forgotten. Spirit is forgotten. And yet we claim to call it spirituality. It's all right. We are not really judging that. We are talking about the essence of the spirituality which is being shared here.

The meeting with the Atma, meeting with the spirit is the primary purpose till the point that darshan has not happened and after that darshan has happened to live in its will to live in the discipleship of the Atma is the point of spirituality.

Now this spirituality may have byproducts, side effects which is a growing of love in our heart, a deepening of love in our heart, the absence of suffering in our life. All those things that seem to bother us so much, they seem to fall away as we progress on this path. Not linearly. It can be a bit up down. But in the meeting with God's presence within is the point of the end of suffering. At least most of the suffering. It may still seem to appear from time to time. But really most have called it the end of suffering.

There are two main reasons why you come to satsang isn't it. One is that you've been suffering a lot so you want to come. Suffering makes you question like what am I doing here what is the purpose of my existence what even is the point of life. In my case it was that my purpose seemed to be done at a very young age so I started to wonder then what am I really doing here? What is the point of all of this? So that led me to spirituality for others. It may be different kinds of suffering in the four baskets of relationship, money, body and meaning. One of those things may be acting up a lot and we come to find a deeper meaning to life, a deeper truth about life. So we come to satsang because of that.

Others rare ones are organically attracted to finding out what is the truth. Like they have an inner calling whether you call it truth or God there is a deep calling already and they are just finding something to quench the thirst of that calling. If that longing can feel so strong that you feel like where can I go? Who can tell me the truth? Can you show me God? Like Vivekananda constantly went to teachers and said can you show me God? So that search, that thirst, that longing can be really strong. So that can lead us to come into satsang, to come into spirituality.

Now, now that I've lay laid out the project, you see, is there something which is confusing in this? Yes. Share openly. Don't you see? Is there something? Ah, please.

Coming to the spirit or coming to the heart. Coming to the spirit. Sorry. Coming to the spirit. Coming to the Atma. Um this part like you meant to meet him in the heart. Coming to the spirit or coming to the heart. So these words feel very high level fancy. Like a thought comes. My mind comes like achievable like that or it's too farfetched. It's like unimaginable like something like never heard of. So whenever I hear it I feel it's like something new So what do I do here? Because my so uh what makes it feel like it is too high level? What gets in the way? Like a thought comes. Yeah. My mind comes like achievable like that or because uh what does it say? Does it give any reasoning also or just it's too farfetched? Yeah, it's too farfetched. It's like unimaginable like something like never heard of. So whenever I hear it I feel it's like something new.

We have also been conditioned by society and even by teachers to believe that this can only happen to the very special ones, highly evolved highly spiritual. So Atma Gyan or the darshan or self realization or God realization is only possible if you're really super special. And that is why I'm sitting here to tell you that if it can happen for a fool like me it is available for everybody. My point is to keep the ordinariness of this one apparent to everyone also the foolishness of this one apparent to everyone so that God doesn't seem inaccessible to anyone.

It should feel like in. I don't feel like that.

You'll get to that point. You haven't seen enough of my foolishness yet to get there. But the real point I'm trying to make is that God has made himself universally available to everyone. He is in your heart. Now if it was not possible to meet him then why would he stay in your heart? He's in the room so that we can meet him Now if it was not possible to meet him then why would he stay in your heart? If it was an impossibility you would have said zara kto no point. So what's the point of living in her heart? She can never meet me anyway. Yeah, this point to father that he's in my heart.

I wonder how where and you know when will I meet him like that you know.

That is good wondering. All these questions are the very point of satsang. These are the questions that are going to be answered in satsang all the pointers all the pathways are for that only how to meet God. None of it really has the core intention of us becoming better people or becoming blissful or peaceful or happy. All those things will happen as a byproduct. If we walk on the narrow lane to God as we walk on that lane all these things will happen, as byproduct but they are not the central purpose.

So satsang like this is not for any other byproduct. It is to come to his reality as a known reality, not as a speculated reality or projected reality or imagined reality. It is to come to him really truly. I'm telling you that it is not at all impossible for you. In fact, it is possible universally. And now that you are in satsang, it's even more possible. Don't allow your mind to bully you into believing that it's not for you. It will not happen for you.

The point of coming here is to meet him and uh the point of him being there is for you to meet him. like would why would he waste his energy? I'm just simplifi oversimplifying but why would he be available if it was impossible to meet sorry I'll translate in English but then there's no point right you see so if the main the boss is in the room but the door is closed but the point is that it never opens then what would be the whole reason for him being in the room but then there's no point right you see so if the main the boss is in the room but the door is closed but the point is that it never opens then what would be the whole reason for him being in the room. He's in the room so that we can meet him. You see, so so have that reassurance that this is for everyone. This is for everyone. This is for you also.

Don't fall into this special trap which is that he is specially for me like I have something special that I can meet him. That is the spiritual ego. The minute we start getting some insight, spiritual ego will come and say see how special I am. I have had this. I have had this chakra. I have had this. I have had this insight. I have seen this. Never to fall into any of those traps because they close the door also.

Just as the idea of inaccessibility stops you from turning, if I said okay there is no goal there so why should I turn, or it's not possible only for me to turn to God then I block myself. And second: I saw him. He is secondary but the fact that I saw him is primary. It should more be like I saw him. So that is the spiritual project so to speak that when we turn inwards we find the calling and that if we follow the fragrance of the calling we'll go deeper and deeper to the holy lands of the interior castle as St. Teresa of Avila called it. And in the very center of this holy land, the kingdom of heaven, the Vrindavan in our hearts is the Lord himself.

Is it clear that it is not an impossibility for anyone? I want that to be clear to everyone because the mind will come and resist this. In every culture, tradition, religion, there is an opposing force. Like what I've said so far, very straightforward. Turn inwards and find God. Simple. Just stay there. Abide inwards and you will find God. That is the promise, isn't it? But what gets in the way? There is an opposing force called Maya.

One child I just met her. She's going through some medical difficulties. So she said that my mind has been attacking me so much saying all your life you have prayed but it's been completely pointless. You have wasted your life. So the mind uses these opportunities. So I said okay now suppose you hadn't prayed, you hadn't spent time for God then what would you be doing? You'd be getting involved with more relationships. You'd be getting involved in trying to make money for yourself. You'd be getting involved in these body related issues, trying to beautify it, strengthen it. To some extent that is fine, the strengthening part. Or you would be interested in just growing your intellect, filling stuff into your intellect knowing more and more conceptually which is all going to go with death. This is what we would be doing, as opposed to meeting the eternal one, the Lord of this universe who is right there.

Now when it sounds far-fetched to you what I'm saying that he's right there in your heart then you just have to ask yourself three questions actually. One which is that is this foolish man who's talking to you is he a liar. Does he give you a sense that he's a liar. Ask yourself that. Second if he's not a liar then is he a lunatic you see like more likely but really contemplate that is he a lunatic or really is he just that foolish he's that dumb that he came up with this he read this idea somewhere and now he's just obsessed by it.. Ask yourself that I'm scared of your answer right now so don't give it to me. Second if he's not a liar then is he a lunatic. You see like more likely but really contemplate that is he a lunatic or really is he just that foolish he's that dumb that he came up with this he read this idea somewhere and now he's just obsessed by it.

So ask yourself this that this man constantly in all his life is just sharing this fact of God's reality and his accessibility and availability to us. Is he lying? Is he trying to fool us? Does he want something out of us or has he just lost it? Like is he a lost case? I feel that if you ask these questions with integrity, you will feel like no there is something to this. There is something to what he is saying because he's not speaking from a place of a belief system. He's speaking as an instrument of that very one.

If you search in your heart, you will find that what is being shared from here, at least at the moment, many times my pride, ego, foolishness contaminates what is being shared, but at least what is being shared about God's reality and his accessibility and availability to us is coming straight from the horse's mouth. He wants you to know this about him. And that is how he is using this body to share.

So what I've shared so far should be extremely good news, isn't it? It should be extremely good news if you were to just take it literally. Then it should just be the best news ever that the king of the universe of the king of a trillion universes rests within me. And just in the knowing of that, just in the knowing of that should be cause for an eternal celebration in our lives. Even just knowing it like information should be cause for huge celebration. Just like if you heard that you won a lottery but you haven't yet got your hands on the money. Still you'll be very joyful isn't it? Not I mean the lottery is 20 rupees then no but you see but you know what I'm saying Just receiving that good news that information should be enough to make you joyful.

But as I'm saying this you will find that the force of Maya using the mind, that's why I keep picking on the mind, the lawyer for Maya which is the mind the lawyer for our ego our individuality the voice of separation which keeps us away from meeting God, may be already projecting doubt, not going to happen, not so easy, easier said than done. All kinds of rubbish to get you away from the real project, the real design of your life. So your soul, your antahkarana is designed for this holy love rendezvous with God. Your very design is that. When we are only wasting our entire life on external things then we are just not living up to our true design. We are wasting our potential.

When you say is the inner world, the inner instrument like mind, emotion, intellect, all of these pain, pleasure, there's so many imagination, memory. So, it's very difficult to say all of it in one shot.

Like I was saying last time I could say body, mind, memory, intellect, ego, self, all of these things or just use a simple word soul. An untakana now some may kibble and what is the word? Quibble. Kibles is what I'm reading alan. So I'm used to saying that. So quibble about the word and say but antakana is little different from the soul. Doesn't matter. Don't worry about any of that. In your insides, there is the capacity to meet God. That is the main thing. Now, in the very inmost chamber of your insides is what we call your spiritual heart. In your heart, he delights to stay. He's right there waiting for you. And some of these words may have a familiar calling for you as if they are coming from your inside because they may seem familiar to you in their fragrance if not their words.

He is there but his calling is not pushy. It's not authoritative. It's not forceful. He doesn't force the love. In the world we are used to this force love which is more an attachment more a grasping but God's love is patient and it's unconditional so he doesn't force a love so but when you do turn towards him you will start to meet various textures flavors tastes of that sweet calling from your heart from your heart within. And when you start tasting this then all worldly taste will seem incipid compared to it. Who has drunk the juice from the heart? For those ones, the outer universe doesn't provide any temptation. Therefore, we become free from grasping. We become free from wanting and we become centered in God's presence.

Now what happens when you meet the Atma? What happens is that you're showered with all that is good. Showered with all that is restful. Showered with all that is true knowledge, showered with so much beauty that your whole insides are transformed sometimes even outsides are transformed and I don't just mean with beard and thing like that like sadhu baba but but even outside sometimes are transformed. All that is good is available to us only there and one of the most important things I would say is that you get true self-knowledge capital S, who are you in reality is shown to you over there, the lack of distinction between or difference between yourself and God is shown to you over there, that I am that is shown to us over there so that it no longer remains just a speculation or something that we read. It becomes a lived experience, a lived reality. It is not something that is remembered or forgotten. It becomes your natural realization.

So then all the suffering related to the false identity and all suffering is related to the false identity falls away. You see you're suffering from the problems that your identity is having. What you take yourself to be is having these problems. Even your body is right now maybe not having any problem. But it is your mental identity, your projected identity which says I I want this. I can't live without this. I only only want to be like this. This should be in my life. This should not be in my life. All that ideas about wanting and not wanting desire and aversion you see is causing all the suffering in our lives. But once we see that they have no landing place, they have no this identity has no reality. When we really check therefore all this wanting belongs to a ghost who has never lived.

So maya is me. So that is why it is called maya. That's not the original Sanskrit. That's a good way to understand maya which means that the me comes means takes over becomes central becomes the protagonist of our life and then the me is not enough like somewhere we still craving for that boundlessness. So the me says if I only had this relationship, if I only had this much money, if my body was only like this, if I only understood something, then I would be much bigger than what I am right now. So that infinity that unboundedness which is your true reality in the heart the me is trying to replicate by getting more and more pleasure, accomplishments material things. By getting more and more it's trying to make itself infinite in this way but it will never be able to replicate the true infinity that you are. That will only come as a product of your realization, not as a product of your getting. So this is your true potential to realize that God is here as a living reality. That is your true potential But in the world, because everybody swings to a different beat, those of us who are spiritual will always be called those losers who never lived up to their potential. What are you doing wasting your life on weekdays thrice a week before work hours are finished? You come to satssung. What are you doing?

Those who come into spirituality are mostly accused of wasting their potential. Isn't it? What are you doing with your life? You could have been somebody. You could have become someone. You just sitting and praying. That is the voice of the worldly societal pressure which wants everyone to live as if they are just food buckets, meat buckets and then die one day leaving some names on some buildings or something as an eternal legacy. It is the most absurd idea. And we've been told by the sages at least in India that this cycle of transmigration keeps going on and on and on and on body to body death to death till we ultimately come to the realization of the truth.

So my request, my provocation, my begging, my imploring everything is for you to bet your life on this is to bet your life on the fact of God's reality, on the fact of Atma Gyan, on the fact of Atma darshan, of the possibility of leading a life in the light of the holy spirit. Because you will not be able to do this half-heartedly.

If you get married to someone and you say let can I do this marriage half-heartedly? It's not going to be a good relationship, isn't it? So in the same way your relationship with God has to be fullheartedly full full. Your heart must belong to him. His heart already belongs to you. You will see that more and more. His heart belongs to you already. Just remembering that is so touching that he has not held himself back from us. He has made himself fully available. He just wants us to turn towards him fullheartedly. For whose sake? For our own sake. For our own sake.

Father, um after our last conversation, I was exploring that you know and um when I say Ram Ram Ram like okay I like like now for example um I feel okay I feel I come to two different places when I say Ram versus when I ask who am I. Uh when I ask who am I it feels like I'm coming to a place even further than even deeper than when I say Ram and I shared shared with you that um that that sweet presence of God is felt when I say Ram Ram it takes me to that place it feels like a lot of comfort love like like that no but when I ask who am I it u it the that place there's I don't feel the love or presence it's it's even beyond like I feel for lack of words I'm saying I I feel I go to a place where there is no love and presence. But I don't um that's why I feel scary and come back so last two days I was experimenting with this and immediately I want to start saying Ram Ram and come back to safety because it's feeling like too stark, too scary. Yeah. Like that emptiness even without God's presence.

Do it now. When you ask who am I, remember that your focus is just on finding out who you are. It is not about let me see what happens when I ask. It is who are you? Everything else that comes, let it come and let it go. I promise you it will not touch you. Nothing can harm you. Every thought that appears, ask yourself, who witnesses that?. And feel free to keep telling me if you.

I've been asking like this. No, father. It's not to investigate but truly like I I've been asking who am I? You know and it's somehow different when you ask.

Yes. But who are you? That is the point of what I'm saying. Not what is happening to you. Who are you? And if something is being believed in the process then you can expose it.

I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying now. Yeah.

I feel I'm transported.

Who can't place itself? If you couldn't find yourself, then how are you making this report about yourself?

It's still an inference. Like, okay. I am I Yeah.

So that's where you wait that stillness, silence, I can't make a conclusion. All these are good things to the mind. They are bad things like what is happening? I can't tell. So it'll pull you into some conclusion. I'm getting scared. It's not working. This is better. This is worse. It enjoys doing that categorization and it hates doing the actual inquiry. Because it's beyond its scope. So it'll try to pull you back into what its strengths are which is to say okay this is working better for you this is working worse for you this is right this is wrong this is my path this is not my path. None of that. Ask yourself who who is that.

So this waiting this stillness brings you to the same place as if you were to keep all outpouring everything aside. This place is the same place that the Lord's name will also bring you. Because this place is the only place the door of the heart temple where the revelation happens.

Our point is to wait over there. And it's a beautiful waiting. It's not like waiting for a bus. No, bus is late when you're coming so more and more frustrating. It's not that. It's just the holiest way for us to be. The maximum we can come to using our faculties. Now the rest of it has to just be revealed.

It feels like this is all I can do. This is the last point I can go to.

The very last step. With this our all our faculties have turned inwards.

Because this big trick for me, Father, that's scary. It's very scary. But now when I'm doing this with you, it's different.

So just when it comes with this message that you are getting scared, ask who is the one getting scared? The arising of fear as an energetic movement is making who scared. Is the witness of the fear getting scared. We can find out.

And also this thing of it's very dry here. There's no love felt. There's no God's presence here. Go back to Ram. That's when I just took my mala and said Ram Ram like that feels more safe.

That is a win-win if I ever saw one. That is a win-win situation. As they say in the corporate world, it's a win-win situation if I ever saw one. If your only escape from inquiry is God's name and your only escape from God's name is inquiry, Maya has no chance.

Some idea around inquiry Father that's around inquiry that but yeah last time also it was very nice like beautiful talking to you because my I was convinced that well there's no place for humility in inquiry like all that happened you know something was there.

It's the most humbling. Because if you really meet what's going on, take my example, 51 years old. I would say I'm 51 years old and I have no idea who I am. Very humbling.

There's a so when I ask who am I? There's a my attention is is drawn.

Yes. Everything is turned inward. And that inward turning is what that silence, stillness, the door to the heart temple is.

This is still an inference but I can say that I am not this that I believed myself to be. I feel too shy to say that I am. I see it that who am I? I'm too shy to say that I am all there is but it's not this one. It's not the one I believe.

This little bit of back and forth will seem a bit strange initially. You won't have to worry about sounding proud because when it is coming from the heart it'll be very recognizable it's coming from there. It's very fragrant coming from there. So it won't seem like it is the ego bragging not like Ravana bragging that I have that. So you don't have to rush to any of that also. Don't have to rush.

Then you'll keep outpouring from your mouth organically. You don't have to rush to either share or not share. You just have to allow that fragrance to start coming expressed in your words as well because the one that used to be the seeker will want to jump at it and say this such good news I want to share, in the guise of being sweet helpful friendly it'll soon make it into something that it understood like the seeker understood like Archimedes understood and started shouting Eureka Eureka I found the solution.

So that seeker that wants to grab onto this and make it belong to itself is the one that you make sure never gets this pristineness. It should never get contaminated by the seeker identity who then will become the claimment identity. You can spot it will want to just become a claimment soon.

Yeah. I I see that the head sprouting, you know. Exactly. But last last satsang's conversation was very helpful for me father because I was hesitant to bring it up to you with whatever fears I have you know but it was good to stay with it also.

And to keep staying there, not come. Like let all that moves, let it move from there. For years in satsang I've been doing this. Now you have a better sense of what I'm saying. You remain there and allow your outsides to be moved from there instead of trying to use that a what did I see? I saw. Never make it I saw. It has to be more I'm seeing like this is where it is coming from. In that way you will not allow your atmaan to get contaminated by a conceptual knowing.

One good trick is to not rely on memory at all. If you have to rely on memory for insight then the mind is already contaminated. Freshly what is the truth is not coming and going. It is here.

So when when you when you're saying that wait at the door of temple, you're waiting uh with open and empty and Are you waiting for am I waiting for atma dashan or is or waiting itself is atma dash?

No neither. The waiting means that all the conditions concepts constructs have been left behind. Just for communication we call it waiting. We really empty like you said we empty. Now we are not saying when will God come? What's the time? He's so late. We're not doing any of that. There we stay till our revelations keep deepening and deepening and deepening.

When you have an unimagined, you're not using your imagination, you're not using your memory, you're not using any of those traditional faculties and you come to a holy light which you can't really pinpoint and say whether you're perceiving it or not. I'm very careful when I say these things because I know the imagination loves to just invent the subtlest light, one which is one candle which is going on and on. It's none of that. The imagination will try and trick you with all of that.

These are very subtle terrains but when you come to the darshan of the Atma somewhere you will realize that you met something which is not possible in the worldly way. It is a supernormal, it's an out of this universe process. It's a spiritual process. So when that revelation is granted to us by his grace then in your heart you feel a deep confirmation.

Can you tell the difference between a mind wanting to confirm like I have been a seeker for 30 years now? You see, so just like If you keep looking at a problem, the mind will invent a solution pretty quickly and later you'll see that that solution was all garbage. So in the same way the seeker life is so frustrating that somewhere it wants to be able to claim quickly that Atma darshan happened self-realization happened God realization happened all these things. But this is just going to be a great disservice to yourself.

Till you find that something it's not just what you saw. A beautiful line came to me from the Chosen where Mary says that I was one way but now I'm different. And he was the in between. So that you know that in your heart that you can never be that way that you were. It's not just something I just saw something and that makes me somebody. It's just something it transforms you. You feel like that holy light which made me now completely different from what I was because he is that he is the Atma. He is the in between.

So you will not need to grasp for confirmation. You will not want any certification. You will not want anything at all. For the being there so-called waiting or being open and empty that itself has some sweet taste. The door is not closed from his side. Only our visibility is blocked because our eyes have not opened up enough yet. So like in the sanctum sanctorum, you've gone to the dark garbha of a temple and you're waiting for your eyes to be able to meet him. But that doesn't mean that he is not showering his blessings on you already.

Isn't that the glimpse or or still have to wait?

But at the same time just taking that as everything and it's also not when that's not when this also be this could be an illusion of okay that is the piece I'm already seeing and that's it. If there's a tendency to take it and run then it's not it. If you come to that, you will never want to leave that. You are like more more deeper more more in your heart. On your outside, you'll feel so complete and full. Maybe you'll feel like that. But on the inside, you'll never want to leave that. You won't say, Okay, now is it done now? Is my project done? Is exam over now? Is my what's my report card? What's my That's not the spiritual project. It is that that falling in love where you got a glimpse of the beloved and you just want more and more you may want may not want anyone to say you're done because that done may feel like is he saying I I shouldn't go there anymore that I'm done no I'm not done I want to go I want to deep reverse compared to worldly achievement and thing like that and the spiritual project it's all yeah sometimes drum beat it's all that happen but but over there you just as far there is a there is So there is a.

There is a Maya force which is pulling me out from that space of open. But then what is the force which is keeping me there?

But there is definitely something tang tangible in my mind to achieve when it is Maya. But then what is what is what I'm achieving when I'm at the door is that claims.

Somebody said it's tangible in your mind. That's po beyond the scope of the mind.

So is there some apple or carrot there for not for mind? So then who is what is the grace that I even stay there for? Why.

It's his calling. It's his love. His love is patient and yet it is always calling us in. God's calling also has some power whether we realize it or not. It brings you to satsang sometimes even though you don't want to, no today I'm a bit tired too much work also this is happening, then they say no something pulls you has some power. And that power is very clearly working on all of you otherwise who will come for satsang like this. Not getting anything no promise of happiness nothing just keep waiting at God's door. Something in you is recognizing the calling from within.

It's reassuring that it's not only I who have to fight against Maya it's also him is helping me.

He's only doing it. He clears our path in such beautiful ways. He changes our past present and future. Don't worry.

So when awakening happens, there is really no grasping for any position or enlightenment certificate or any of that. It's just a very deep contentment. Just that peace which you never felt before. What will you do with people calling you enlightened or unenlightened? It has no meaning for you. That grasping is not there at all.

That's why you'll always notice with me that I will never confirm it. I will never say you're done because I know that something wants that certification so it can now run with it, I'm free now. So I'll keep hinting at it. I'll keep saying things to keep you turned there. But I never say you are done. Because what does done mean? It's like are you done falling in love with God? Like you can't your love can't deepen or what is that?

I don't know if I have a summary or what's happening or a report I can say like. But I'm so grateful that I met you in my life. I came here like 2 years ago like ups and downs and stuff but once we realize or not even realize it's like it's just feeling to tell this that when we know that all the paths are leading to the same summit I'm just so happy to be on the path. I've gone off trail so many times. But I'm so grateful that you are in my life. I'd like to say thank you. It feels like so humbling when we see that the one person who can have a bit of pride who should have pride is not having anything like that. But thank you just thank you for being part.

I'm very happy that you'll be staying and allowing this process to happen for you. Of course, like you said, there have been ups and downs and they will be on this path. Maya will play you. But if you stay strong in your heart, holding Atma's hand, holding my hand, we'll walk this together. I'm with you. With you always.

I also feel like saying Father like for me I haven't seen Ram or I don't like I don't want to make a statement here of something but I've felt Ram with you like is what I can say. And if this body if this mind if this all this infrastructure here in the world can be used by Ram Ji just for one holy instant also to spread his light then the purpose of my existence is done. I'll be the most blessed one.

May it be so that may your being in satsang lead you to his feet. May this foolish instrument play the part it is supposed to only in his will. May the Lord of my heart Ram Ji bless you more and more.

Father, just one thing.

As much time as you need.

You mentioned about that he uh my I forgot the statement the way you said that his heart uh my heart no he uh in short

I would want to say that I'm his and he's mine. And while praying or while doing that when I say that okay till I'm yours and then everything like settles.

First rule of satsang: relax. Just relax. What I was saying is that he has already given his heart to us so there is nothing to worry about this being a unrescrocative relationship. All that needs is for us to turn and give our heart to him.

Yeah. It's a very big penance like big thing like.

It's a big reassurance I hope.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Big deal like a great deal. Yeah. And yeah I I mean I I when Ma had also shared that Ram Swami Ramsuki had

And when Ma had also shared that Ram Swami Ramsuki had and then when I first I felt okay like even to say it very dryly but to even say it like once it just okay know okay I am yours God do whatever you want to. And what a beautiful prayer that is. May I never forget you God. May I never forget you. Just do this mercy on me. Do this bit of kindness on me that may I never forget you and helps to go into the prayer and cuz I come out. But yeah, I just I also love that statement that hey then I'm like okay please God.

So when we say Maya is the stealer of time, how does it steal our time? It steals our time by making us forget about God and bringing the center, the camera focus back on me. Look at me. Think about me. What about me? And in every facet of our life, including spirituality, in fact the spiritual me is the worst. I like this. I am a ba. I am a guani. I don't like. I like. I want. I think this helps me. This doesn't do. All this me me goes on in spirituality also. And the slightest experience this one wants to climb a mountain and say yes I am the one I am the chosen one. So that one we have to keep keep being vigilant about.

But if our heart belongs more and more to God, then you won't want to reclaim it from him and say I am special. You'll feel like praising him only more and more. All that is good in my life is because of you Lord and all the foolishness is me hypnotized by Maya bringing into the picture.

When I see that there is no me over here and there's nothing here then the only thing that can come, the only truth that can come out of the mouth is praising God. Yes anything in satsang is really praise for God.

There was something about praising the Lord. I feel like not even to be so concerned about the words there was something about praising the Lord that's just like looking at it slowly just um I feel like not even to be so concerned about the words but just that awe of being with God is a constant, well not constant but most of the time. Because Maya still grabs us from time to time.

Praise is a byproduct of the awe. An outcome of the awe is praise and sometimes to praise leads to awe also. Sometimes when you're feeling very dry and things like that just praise him and say my God is so merciful. Ram Ji is so kind. And he's taking care of me so much and you feel that heart melting. So it works both ways. Sometimes awe produces the praise and sometimes praise then activates the awe.

I used to hate this concept of praising. Especially when I was an atheist and people would say, Praise the Lord. What kind of God wants praise? Is his ego that fragile that he wants praise from us? Then I realize it's all for us to remember his greatness, to remember his mercy, to remember his kindness. What does it do to us on the inside? It is to keep us our heart soaked in love that all these things have been told. Beautiful.

Beautiful. She handed it to her like eye awareness. Now moving this body so sweet it's good there was no pratna in that hand over awareness itself. You are God's will. You want like if you're learning or not learning if it is good. You just want to do serve him. Serve him.

So what is the maha-mantra of the ego? Me. What's in it for me. In every situation we go to in life the ego is always calculating what's in it for me what's in it for me. So when we change the locus of that we change our center of gravity to what would God have me do what is God's will at this moment then that becomes a huge huge part in our transformation. Not my will but thy will be done. So when we start focusing on thy will then that becomes very important and without this leg of agency, doership, pride, all of these things then the ego becomes very very light. A lot of the ego is built up by this doership. I did, I am doing, I am getting. Once it brings itself into this servitude in love for God and it wants to be in servitude to his will then it doesn't get into this mode of I did this or I did this also guilt on the other side of it. We keep beating ourselves up about so many things. Rather we should have faith in God that now that we've turned to him, his grace will fix everything.

For example turning just get if I remember I'm giving I'm using these things like for example if I I'm observing I'm getting poked by something. I'm getting hurt by something. I if I remember okay this had I had no hand in this situation. I couldn't have like create. So if it is come from everything is coming from him then like what is the point of getting wasting time brooding and getting hurt and extending the misery my misery only. I can I just I it gives me like I don't know if I'm exag but it gives me joy. Oh beyond my he brings because he's like you are saying you giving he he has given already he's given in his heart to us.

He's right in saying like you you have like your your qualities are gi I'm not trying.

Exactly. And I feel Father I want like I'm very touched by how you are Father. I don't know how to like I feel you've given your heart to God fully and it's very inspiring to see your. I feel very like I'm undeservingly blessed to be around you and very like I want to express a lot of love and respect. I'm not I've not known you for very long but it's like very grateful.

See so many gifts I have received in my life. He has transformed my life just by giving myself to him a little bit. I'm still a beginner somewhere. I have a long way to go. But even if by giving this much he has done a million times more then let that be something that inspires all of you but I'm a long way from from true love for God.

No no you're being sincere.

If I can be a toenail of his toenail then that is enough. By his grace and by his mercy. May this foolish temple priest never forget that everything is in his glory, his light.

Okay. Okay. Nothing to worry. Good. That's Thank you. Anything I can help with, my dear?

I think there's a lot of things you've said today that I resonated with. This is my first time but there are a lot of things you said that I resonated with. There's something I'm going to take back which is you said I may not be able to say it exactly how you said it but I think you were talking about whatever's happening to us is happening to our current identity. And for me that's something that I feel like I have forgotten or I forget sometimes. So I'm going to take that back with me. And I am grateful to Anuka for bringing me here. She's told me a lot actually about you. And I did believe that there was a time in my life, you were talking about how we need a teacher. Some people who are meant to be on the path, you know, you can't stop them. They're going to be on the path and find. And I think I was a person like that. And there was a time I went up to my mom, I was very young, and I said I need a guru. I need a teacher. And she didn't understand it. I was so young. I didn't understand it myself. But as I grew older it became more apparent. And over time, I found the terminology and what is it called? What path am I on? And a lot of it, like you said, was found in silence. Was found through a lot of transformation, painful transformations that I went through and so now I believe that if I am brought to any place even through a person I find it myself that there must be something for me there. So that is what I'm going to take back from what you've said. Thank you.

So welcome. Now when do you go back?

I'm leaving tomorrow. Tomorrow evening.

Bless. I got something. Yeah, absolutely fine. Thank Thank you. Right there. That's good.

So we got to the point where we were saying that the force that pulls us away from God's presence of being with God or even wanting to be with God we call that Maya and different religions different names have been given to this kind of force. So then the question should be how do we counter it? How do we counter this force of Maya? So you notice that Maya works through the formation of egoic identity. That's why Ananta said that Maya is when the me comes, me. So the formation of egoic identity and the reinforcement of egoic identity gives the landing ground for Maya to operate from.

If there was no me here, it was just let's say space for the moment. If you were to believe the scientists who say that actually all this matter that we are seeing it's not actually like that. It's mostly just space. We are seeing objects where it's mostly just space. So then if there was no identity for this me to land then what would our life be like if we just lived like space? Blissful, peaceful, open, accepting.

So another word for ego is resistance. To resist what is is ego. Acceptance means openness. To be empty of identity means openness. But just by telling each other to be open, empty, non-resistant, usually it doesn't work. We usually become resistant to the idea of empty mostly and on more trickier terrain is when we the idea of empty itself is used as a resistance to being empty. That I should be empty. Now is my new position that I will just be empty. I will just be empty. I've poked a little bit for fun of this idea of I live only spontaneously. I have no plan. But anybody looking at that will say but that is your plan. You have not escaped planning. Your plan now seems like it is empty of plan. But that is the new plan.

In the same way empty also becomes like that. That I am being empty that my spiritual project is to be empty instead of the falling into innocence which is empty like that then it becomes like a joke like I'm empty I'm so empty right now see no thought see no thought like that. That is not empty. So it's very tricky. Sages realize that it's very tricky. So they said okay what is the simplest thing? The simplest thing you can do is take God's name. Take God's name. And they said that this is the simplest path and yet it is very rare. There's something beautiful in that statement.

What do you all think? Maya Maya makes us believe what all the perceptions are more real than outside perceptions are more real than the inside.

The simplest and yet it is very rare. Although everybody knows about it at least in places like India most people know about it. Then why is it so rare? Not the telling of it, but the actual application of it. Yeah but even suppose that if you're suffering and you're a spiritual seeker, if you've been told by sage after sage that all you have to do is just take God's name, then why is that so rare? Not the telling of it, but the actual application of it. Because many times it's too simple. We feel like no, we are very advanced spiritual thinkers. How can I even that uncle sitting on the road was taking God's name then what's so special about my spirituality. So anyway what the point I'm making is that one simple way is to live in constant remembrance of God by taking his name whichever name appeals to us. One sage we were reading today, and he said among your million names my mallayalam is not so good so I'm not pronouncing his name at the moment. And he said among your million names if someone takes one of them also then that is enough for them. So it's a simple path just keep taking God's name.

In that way then there is no me identity getting focused. Every time the mind tries to offer up some narrative, some story of the me, it is not bought, it is not believed in, we return, keep returning to God's name. We stay with God's name and we remain empty of the me.

The other simple very simple path is sincerely ask yourself who you are. Who am I? Who am I in reality? The mind may offer up an idea. Says I am Ananta. I am a man. So we notice the idea and ask who witnesses that thought. Both of these bring us to that holy place where revelation of the spirit can happen in our heart. Like one orthodox sage called it the acquisition of the holy spirit is the most important project in our life which is another way of saying Atma darshan is the most important project in our life.

The sages have given us reassurance after reassurance if you're suffering take God's name if you're caught up in Maya take God's name all this will be broken they've said your lives will be fine your ancestors will be fine your family will be fine. All these reassurance from the mouths of great sages who could not be liars or deluded. So they have told us. So just we have to follow.

In our inquiry, in our remembrance of God and the more of ourselves we can bring to the process, the more sincerity, the more faith, the more humility, the more love, the more compassion, kindness, gratitude, all of these things will just add to our deepening, add to staying in that holy place of revelation.

If we say spirituality is about these two Rs which is recollection, the inside gets all our faculties get recollected and pointed towards God's light, and revelation which is purely a work of the Atma within, then we have to focus on the recollection part the revelation will happen when the revelation happens by grace. But suppose that we spend our entire lives in that holy recollected place it'll be the holiest life there is no regret about it. That's why I'm saying the waiting itself is not like waiting for a bus that you're wasting time it is a million times higher than anything we could be doing in the world.

When I ask who am I and I come to this place that's what, and when I say Ram, this is what you mean by the door no?

Yes. And Atma darshan is when the door opens. And the point I'm making is that if I was to spend a thousand lifetime just waiting at his door, there would be the most beautiful lifetime. They have nothing to complain about. Just coming here through inquiry or with the Name. It doesn't feel like a rush. Okay, open the door. It it feels very fulfilling to just

It doesn't feel like a rush. Okay, open the door. It it feels very fulfilling to just

Because the Russia was left behind. Yeah. See, it still will try to sneak in. And he'll only sneak in if you let him. With your belief.

And for me the condition is, it's seen with a magnifying glass, which is the need to be validated, the need to be seen. So every time I come here to the door, the mind comes with full force to be seen to be validated and to be special in some way, to claim. But you said that this is the most humbling and that was music to my ears to hear that inquiry and it is very humbling because we can't do the full inquiry. No, we can only do the first R which is recollection. And even that we can turn in that way but when all the layers of our existence actually turn inwards and assemble in the heart that is completely up to grace also. So it's very humbling because all I can do is offer myself up in this process fullheartedly but he has to do everything for us And to be special in some way to be special to to claim exactly to claim to be a claimment of that uh thing. But you said that this is the most humbling and that was like a it was music to my ears to hear that that inquiry and it is very humbling but but because it's also very humbling because we can't do it in the sense we can only do the first R which is recollection.

And that feels like 1% and 99% he does after. But also we can't do the full inquiry. No, we can only do the first R which is recollection. And even that like we can't really really do we can turn in that way but can someone say faculties within like Avengers assemble nobody can say that like we can we can invite that happen and we can turn inwards we can use the tool you see but when all the layers of our existence actually turn inwards and assemble in the heart that is completely up to grace also. So it's very humbling because we we see that all I can do is offer myself up in this process fullheartedly but he has to do everything for us.

Now suppose that we were able to do the full recollection also. The recollection is still happening in our faculties. The revelation is happening out of this universe. It may feel like I'm going inside and I'm going inside some physical space, but this is not the inside. This inside is out of this universe, outside of time and space. So he is pulling us there and he's showing us what our reality is beyond the bounds of this universe. This whole spiritual process is so full of wonder and awe. It's just when we've made it very wordy and just like yeah I know this God is everywhere. I know he lives in my heart but we've lost the wonder of it. We made it a physical phenomenal thing. So the point I was making that it is awesome. Literally, it is literally awesome. Like where do we go? Where is this door? Can you imagine?

This is bursting out to say like we must never allow ourselves to get into this. You know I've been waiting at his door. You know like what are you saying? Where is this door? Do you know where you've been waiting? So if you give it to the mind it'll normalize it. It'll just be like yeah but I've been waiting and nothing really is happening. Do you know where you went? You left this universe without a spaceship. You see?

Yeah. I you know and I wait at his door then it's a bit dry and uh what waiting at his door you see? Huh? So your mind will make a very like a fictional novel out of it which will be very normalized and like I waited outside the wardrobe of Narnia you know this kind of stuff but no this what that Narnia wardrobe represents is not in this universe is out of this universe. Allow imagine yourself to experience this fact that when you go inside that humble sounding inside is not a place in time and space. You see it's not a place in time and space. It is not a spatial inside. It is not a temporal inside. There is no aging that happens there. There is no movement of time or space that happens there. It's a completely supernatural process. is full of wonder and awe and magic and mystery is that is what spirituality is and it's my fault like it's all of our faults as spiritual teachers have been at this 14 years but I haven't stressed on this enough it's only now that I'm finding some voice to be able to express these.

See, sorry I. No, I'm sorry. This was all bursting out. I'm sorry. I interrupted. No, not at all, father. That so the the mind makes it that you've you've come to this point now it's done. Exactly. But that staying there. Yeah. because he's never talking about the past moment. Yeah. He's never talking about the past moment. It's a present instruction for this moment.

So be very careful of the mind's normalization of these things. These are very supernatural things. They're not part of worldly empirical movements. They're not part of physics, biology, chemistry, not none of those apply here. This is before the birth of time and space where you've gone to his door. Can you imagine? My attempt is constantly to cut through if it is making it very normal.

And Father, this is just the beginning like because um I I had made it. So just one sec before you. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I want to say this. This is bursting out to say like we must never allow ourselves to get into this. Yeah, you know I've been waiting at his door. You know like what are you saying? Where is this door? Do you know where you've been waiting? Father that um that it's just the beginning you know no like that that's what makes it so um beautiful. Exactly. Because the mind makes it so like okay now you've reached this point now it's done it's it makes it so dry and stale. But to see that coming to the door is just the beginning. And this is all you I can do.

Exactly. We will never scale the mountain that is God. We will never be able to take one step also. So it should always feel like a beginning.

Father somewhere this is not met fully. You know that's why there's so much pride and achievement and all that but if I if I truly met this I don't know how to say it but it's so humbling to see that all I can do is come here and then he does all of it.

Exactly. That's why I don't use so much enlightenment and freedom nirvana moksha. These days I am saying love. You caught a glimpse of the beloved. Good. It is great grace. It is rare grace. Whatever you call it, it's amazing. But will you say now done? No. You just caught a glimpse of the beloved. You see, you want to spend your life with the beloved.

If you look at Atma darshan through that lens then this whole thing of done done I am now certified all this stuff will go just like you got a glimpse of the beloved now you want to dive in more and more and more and dissolve in that more and more and more. This is more that falling in love than about any achievement or getting or any experience or any of that. So if you keep it in that moment, you'll be safe.

Yeah. Yeah. Like how to like truly be on this path, you know, Father because so much pride gets in the way.

It's very painful that to make it about me. This pride is very poisonous because it wants us to be first in class but not only like this first one should be the only one to pass. So it'll hear everyone else like nah they're just deluding themselves like that and it'll hear its own pridees report like like that. So just love, love, love. Offer offer off for more more humility. Do humble actions every day. Humble yourselves in the eyes of others every day. All these things are safety blankets for us on the spiritual path. Because that one prideful thought can at a rocket speed transport you into Ravana mode like that. Before you know it, you're Ravana. Before you know it, you want to argue with your teacher also. No, no, no. Now you don't want me to, you know, be awakened or enlightened. That's why you're trying to put me down. You're not recognizing what I have seen. All these things can come. And this is very very much a possibility that happens very quickly when we convince ourselves of our own specialness.

So just look at it in the construct of love. And yes, I'm coming deeper and deeper to my beloved's darshan, a glimpse of the beloved in my heart. But nobody says Huh I saw now I'm I'm I'm sorted. Romeo went to Juliet's house and he saw Juliet just looking out the window and he ran away. Said Okay, my thing. Nobody. No, he says I want more and more. No, isn't it? So this is more that falling in love than about any achievement or getting or any experience or any of that. So if you keep it in that moment, you'll be safe.

Some of the uh reflections I wanted to tell you. Uh one thing is that when I'm listening to you uh my mind is also getting uh crowded in terms of arguing with you. That is one thing I also I'm enjoying it. So I am not putting uh sincere efforts to stop it. It's okay. I am understanding that word. Uh and uh there is one more thing uh I actually wanted to ask you for some days. I didn't come but I was uh um so uh Atma Dan and um getting a glimpse of your dity. So how are these two uh like similar because um um like uh like like a religious uh philosophy that I am accued with that says that uh sadena uh is like manifesting and transforming yourself uh as as becoming uh one like you're dating. Yes. Um so and uh when uh I am processing with self inquiry the first question uh like you have been discussing with uh Ishana.

Can we go question because I'll forget the can we go question by question so what is the first one was uh what is the similarity between coming to atma daran and coming to the recognition of your dity yes uh all good good good. She's good. Good. You met the doctor. Thank you. So the first question was uh what is the distinction or similarity between when we talk about atma dashan satssung versus where you say you'll meet dura or you'll meet Ram G or you'll meet Krishna or Kali.

There will be no distinction. What we call coming to Atma darshan is the same as coming to the meeting with Kali, coming into the meeting with Ram Ji, coming into the meeting with Krishna. Now what may happen in the Atma darshan if you have a special east dity that you have a particular love for then you may feel like in the outpouring of the Atma you're getting darshan of that deity. What will happen there you will find a lot of love you'll find a lot of light you'll find a lot of bliss you'll find a lot of peace all these we call the outpouring. Now if you have particular love for Kali then you will feel when you come to the light of Atma you will also see in that holy light a vision which is different from a hallucination a holy vision of Kali blessing you or whatever your heart truly desires to see. So if somebody loves Kali as a mother they'll see as a mother. If they see her as the destroyer of suffering or evil, they'll see her as that. Whichever aspect we are attracted to truly, that is what we'll see.

For example with the Krishna, if somebody loves baby Krishna, you may see baby Krishna. Same for Jesus, if somebody loves Jesus, then they may see Jesus in the manger being born. In the kindness, love and mercy of the Atma within as one of the outpourings you may see these holy visions as well So in the kindness, love and mercy of the Atma within as one of the outpourings you may see these holy visions as well. That's how. So that's the first one. What is the second one?

Why I am struggling uh with this is that um how my personality is or how I conduct myself. Uh if I have to associate uh it maybe I should have been inclined to a more softer uh dity. Um but my uh my inclination is towards a more intense and and a more dramatic um yeah so um that is why I understand that why this duplicacy you know like.

We may feel like on paper that our perfect relationship is of this variety but we end up being resonating and being attracted to and falling in love with a different variety. So some of these things are deeper than what we can fathom. We don't know what led to your love for Kali but whatever led to it is auspicious and yet maybe never something that we can understand conceptually. our ability to construct concept and to give truth value to them is very limited compared to the realms that we are talking about. That's a very small part. The spiritual project is a much higher much subtler much more beyond all of these projects. The best we can do with these constructs is to point in that direction but it'll never be able to capture why you fall in love with Kali. No concept can define it for you. Nothing can explain it to you. You cannot do any personality charting and say my deity should be this one or this one based on psychological tests. Because those are much tinier realms than what is happening in your spiritual work. So don't strain yourself too much in trying to understand why is it's a certain way. If you're falling in love with Kali then that is great news First if you can agree on this small thing which is that our ability to construct concept and to give truth value to them is very limited compared to the realms that we are talking about You cannot do any personality charting and say my issue should be this one or this one based on these tests psychological tests or something like that. You cannot do that. Because that those are much tinier realms than what is happening in your spiritual work.

Yes, about the psychological uh like inquiry part that you have mentioned, I also wonder like many times that why do I feel so obsessed that she will come and she will uh cut me off and she will punish me and then something uh some blessing will come. Why do I feel so fascinated about this uh like suffering part or or like like longing to be uh to receive pain from her like is it a is it a like sound like something uh like some conditioning that got picked up along the way somewhere?

Don't worry. Her form may seem that scary and there are attributes to her which is that she's no holds barred in the way that she's not going to wait around slowly for things to resolve and things like that. But first should I make one statement clear. God makes himself available to be loved the way we want to love God. Now all these aspects that we are calling Ram, Krishna, Kali, Jesus all of that is because we make ourselves available to love him in that way. Then he plays that part in his kindness and mercy, but it's still one God. So if you're invoking Kali or invoking Ram Ji, you're not invoking a different God. It's like God saying, Okay, how does this child want to meet me? How does this child want to meet me? So he comes in that way.

All that I'm saying is that it's a much more sweeter, kinder, nicer, more beautiful process than we can imagine. You see, so if you imagine like what I've told you is the general attributes of how people worship Kali. Now if suppose you say no my Kali is one who is actually very very very patient. She has the patience of Ram G and she has the naughtiness of Krishna and her outer expression is like Kali. You see like that then she will meet you in exactly that way. It all depends on what you can handle and what you want to handle like in which way do you want to meet God truly in your heart then that God makes himself available to us in that way.

I already fallen in love with her rebellious thing. That's how you she dancing with her uh K and uh at in the darkness.

Yeah, no problem. It's all very good. Nothing what you can uh take your God to be your way to love God can be will ever go wrong for you.

Actually I have been reading uh the Dasha Mahavidya mythology about it and it was uh emphasizing uh that the iconography that is uh uh that the seers they have uh imag not imagined I don't know the better word for it.

The iconography is the way to meditate the dity she is not reflecting ing that she is very patient and all.

Yes. Yes. Because you already loving that rebellious one. No. She I don't feel rebellion and patience go very well together. Yeah. In for uh I don't want to argue that way but thing is that in her particular uh mythological part it it says that she comes and she uh uh cuts uh uh from the aspects and parts that is not actually benefiting in in the uh devotees spiritual progress then she leaves.

But my problem is why are you leaving. You are cutting cutting it off and then you are leaving. Why are you leaving?

If you cut off the what is blocking our living with God in our heart. These obstacles whatever you call them. So if she cuts off the condition then the job is done. Then your road to God is clear. She's not leaving. She may be leaving in this way but then she's leaving so that you can be at peace with her in the heart. She's not leaving leaving you stranded. She's leaving because her this part of her job is done to clear up the pathway so that then now you can lead a blissful happy life in her presence in your heart. Yeah, that is was that was hovering in my mind. Yeah, very good. Very good. Good. What is that?

These are very stunning, extraordinary things. I wish that God also had presented me with a voice and a body and a sort of temperament to be able to really express this in the way it deserves to be expressed. But this timid foolish man has been given this project. May I try more and more to express the awe of this. We will never scale the mountain that is God. We will never be able to take one step also. So it should always feel like a beginning. Just love, love, love. Offer more more humility. Do humble actions every day. Humble yourselves in the eyes of others every day. All these things are safety blankets for us on the spiritual path. Because that one prideful thought can at a rocket speed transport you into Ravana mode like that. Before you know it, you're Ravana. Before you know it, you want to argue with your teacher also. No, no, no. Now you don't want me to be awakened or enlightened. That's why you're trying to put me down. You're not recognizing what I have seen. All these things can come. And this is very very much a possibility that happens very quickly when we convince ourselves of our own specialness.

So just look at it in the construct of love. And uh yes, I'm coming deeper and deeper to my beloveds dan glimpse of the beloved in my heart. But nobody says, Huh, I saw now I'm I'm I'm sorted. You see, Romeo went to Juliet's house and he saw Juliet just looking out the window and he ran away. Said, Okay, my thing. Nobody. No, he say I want more and more. No, isn't it? So this is more that this is more that falling in love than about any achievement or getting or any experience or any of that. So, if you keep it in that moment, you'll be safe.