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Don't Rest on Any Conclusions, Let It Go - 15th January 2019

January 15, 20191:12:42152 views

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Ananta guides seekers to abandon the addiction to mental conclusions and distinctions. He emphasizes that suffering arises only when we believe stories about ourselves, urging a return to the spaciousness of being.

Don't rest on any conclusion. In your conclusion is suffering.
The mind is just a big soap opera scriptwriter; let it all come and go.
If you have to meet life as something, meet it as space.

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Transcript

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Ananta

Okay, I must say welcome everyone to satsang today. Satguru Mooji Baba. Want to come up? No questions? Is it because you can get it down to an 'I don't know'? There's no point asking. Beautiful. They say when there are no answers, the questions fall away. Don't know. It's good if the 'don't know' is empty. If the 'don't know' is with the concept 'I don't know,' then it's not 'don't know.' Last night, you were referring to yourself as the foolish one. What do you find? You're wise? And I wouldn't be so foolish. Why did it come from? It came from me sometimes because—let's put it that way—if there's no 'because,' relieve yourself when we come to a negation of even that which you heard in satsang. So then this resistance can come, but 'this I learned from you.' So in that context, this one is the deluded, foolish one. But you go beyond, because it can seem like these words have some inherent meaning in them or something like this, that the words in themselves will contain some truths. So in that way, we can say: forget even this, everything that you learned from this foolish one.

Ananta

Foolish—I also saw yesterday after the time, this is not such a bad thing. Because what did my Dad say? Somebody posted: 'The best of the weekend is the fool who knows nothing.' I was very... this one is very funny sometimes. He says, even it can happen to the best of us, even me. All these words are just sounds from that wind chime, Father. To really take the pointers—stop, not knowing, and allowing—to heart. The addiction to mind is shown in the most subtle ways which were never seen before. In fact, we don't know what we still know, and this whole system is shaken up, but in the most beautiful way. Anything as a single bit in all these old religions, which is you see the gods and the sages sitting like this: 'Stop.' Stop, yes. But I've seen that for the past few weeks. I've noticed it all. If you have started to see a lot more in terms of where you're not stopping, you still allow the identity to hold sway. At least these things are coming to your attention and you're noticing. It is relevant to notice; it is more than enough. You noticing where you're still putting the 'but.' 'Everything is fine, but I still have to do this. I still have to solve or resolve all this. I still have to figure out.' You know, noticing where we still rest on a conclusion.

Ananta

So the words of satsang are not used in the center to conclude and say, 'Oh, this is how it is.' If so, then satsang is not yet set up. If the words of satsang are just opening a door, are you no longer that fool? Because in your conclusion is suffering. Don't rest on any conclusion. Let it go. Don't try to define 'this is how it is.' Actually, 'this is how it is' after the comments at satsang, or 'this is how it is'—'Oh, today I had the insight, this is how it is.' See, what the insight had nothing to do with your definition of 'this is how it is.' If you were able to say how it is, then somebody would have said it by now and this would be done like centuries ago. If it was defined, a building like this, 'this is how it is,' finished. The second part, let's look. To notice that the thought comes, it's fine. Then take an example like 'this is how it is, what everything is God.' Yes, then that is not too bad, because then that would be the last thought you believe. If it is believed that everything is God, what else is left? And the notion comes, 'Why is it, for example, she did that to me?' For example, then if everything is God and she is God, it means God who is doing to whom? God, God. So as the thought is like that, that's why that one notion you can keep. One you can keep if it has that dissolute impact. And if you want certification of that thought, then you can ask me. This is the thought I'm keeping. Do you feel it so clear, easy? And we say we start satsang with Guru Kripa. That one thought is enough. This is capable of—no, is all there is, only is. You want license for thought? Want license for one thought? Three licenses today, please. Thirty-one? It's Guru Kripa. You thinking about beloved Father and so much grace is here by Lord, then why here from Adharma of ego? Pride is still so dominant and like compelled to behave to be rather than not be.

Ananta

Because you still haven't understood what this mind is. You're still not able to distinguish between just thoughts and what is reality. You consider all this chatter to be you. And when one day it represents you as this, one day it represents you as that, and that's why this roller coaster seems too much. If you still feel that some claim that the mind makes about you is worthy, then only this drama will come. The mind is a big drama queen. The mind is just a big soap opera scriptwriter. When all of this will happen, then it dangles the carrot to you. You feel that all this is going to get me something, and again and again you fall for the same April Fool's Day trick. One day you presume that you are Brahman itself, next day you are Shiva, next day you're the most arrogant Ravan. This is the nature of the mind. You have to be able to see it by now for what it is. Just a seller of stories, of masks. Just let it all come and go. That is the end of pride. If you're done with trying to be special, then to be rid of this Ravana mindset is very simple. You only did this one before. We already got license for one thought. What is it? Oh, do we live in a good just and you two quadrants make no distinction? What is it that we... oh, good. So what the fine? If you buy into other notions of that part getting each other, that's my whole business model. If I need to come into it after five years of sharing something, fifty rupees for all of us. Fifty dollars is formula, and what little Indian currency discount people come here. You join not to believe. I am to start piling up fairly quickly. She wants... ever we put the donation box here for the first time and then we put it back in because I couldn't just deal with all this accounting. Your ten rupees there and fifty rupees where and how much lunch costs and all of that. So you just put it over so we can make it a fine box. Any notion that you believe, okay, we're going to believe more than one second. Because fool me once, shame on you. How many will take this deal? Fifty euros for the Europeans, fifty dollars for Americans, and five hundred rupees. Five hundred rupees. One is to temperate believed you in the form of life in any making us laugh. You know, this makes it more immediate. More immediate because sometimes we feel like, you see, we put cause and effect to everything. But this you put cause and effect to everything—this because that and this. You leave us to me at all that. But the simple thing that I only suffer when I believe something about myself, that seems to get missed. No, a lot of this foolish fun to say all this, you don't believe. You want to see if this one overrides your feet. You prefer this? You have license for keeping always 'I am always at your feet' right now. Instead of that, you want license for 'I suppose I don't upsell.' You can make the punishment different. We can make it to one push-up physically, dancing Surya Namaskar is very tough. Okay, so time starts now. Uh-huh. What can you say about how it is? Let's see. What can you say about someone? 'This is how he is, this is how she is.' No judgments. I'm just scared of the fine. 'This is how the world is.' Open invitation to share your interpretation of the world. No fine. It is playfully all the time. I was the one, no taken. How is your family? Every night specified because 'world' may be too broad. Family, partner, parents, children. She loved them. Love is not emotional defacing. They're beautiful module that... yeah, that I can delete. What about money? Something like that. Mostly make motions and some trigger still has some juice. Money judgments? Good, bad? He will the best. Something, nothing. Even the judgment, it is nothing. Every judgment, any relationship with these motions are just elements, interpretation. Money sorted, relationship sorted. Money sorted through the marsh needs. Good is right and everything is bad. Not the same. I mean, good, bad. Are you saying it's good? This was a port. What do you see? Because there is a herd doesn't make it true. Because the entire population used to believe at one point that the world is flat, didn't make it true. So just because a view is popular doesn't make it true. We have many examples of that in the versions. So if it's a popular notion that 'I am a person'...

Ananta

Okay, so let's start at a different place. So we looked at relationship, we looked at money, but let's look at the fundamental notion: the 'me' itself. Because if you start getting into 'so when that happens and what should I do?' while referring to 'me' and so is this 'me' now? How is the 'me'? Like we said, how is the world? What is money? What about you is true? Still wants to place and it said no. So what do I do now? So that it is a doer is to know still here. If you know, then how would you have that 'what should I do?' No, that I'm saying, I'm saying that organizes 'what should I do?' I'm just being about to tell it. Not even you would think the fine names like you clean up. I stayed quiet, but what shall I do now? Okay, Samantha making a distinction, maybe one just like it. This is and I mean I've been noticing it, this is energetic me. Okay, so many distinctions. Make no distinction. Then there is no such thing as total, no energetic, non-energetic. No comes, no goes. If you're making no distinction, there is no distinction of time, space. It's not easy, then what I did? Ultimately, I just want to tell you: make no distinction at all. Because in the simple pointer, all of this has no chance. Distinctions about anything, anything. Not up, down, not good, bad. You don't make any distinction. Let this body operate as it operates. If you still hear this from the level of being a body-mind, then it'll sound strange. So don't make any distinction even between your perception of this body and anything else. Make no distinction. This Advaita, non-duality, beautiful, not bad. Yes, and the notion of good and bad is kept aside. Yes, you can feelings of dejection or, you know, right diction, something happening to the outside, something happening there's a line. You said make no distinction. That you have nothing to do with the play of these cats. It is still because we make a reference point to 'me.' Like in the coloring book, on this 'me,' cover it up with all our beliefs. Use that 'me,' everything else feels... if that makes it simple, make everything else please. Just please say you come, you don't come. Yeah, let's even take the spacious space. Is it saying this spatial space of you in this room is not saying you can come, you can't come, you are good, you are bad, you are to realize? It's not saying any of that. Your reality is more spacious than this place. So if it helps you know in a provisional way, then see if you can meet everything in your lives as this, in this spacious field always happening in that space. Meet it as a space. It is not about controlling your reaction or something. We're not even talking about that stimulus and response type paradigm. It is way beyond that. It is not about the body here in the words. It will speak or it won't speak. The feelings that you have won't have you. Just anything that is appearing in this space, don't make any distinctions. Don't label this as this and that as that. And right now you can see that it is very much like this. All your experiences, no matter what you may say, you can check the experience in the space within your being, within your very existence. I am saying now that don't even make distinction between existence, non-existence, my being, not being. Nothing is needed. If you had to have a conclusion to get to that, then that could not be that easy. Then that would be dependent on your conclusion if it needs the step, even a mental step. Where is his voice heard now? Where is his voice heard? In the body. Voice is heard in the body. Where is the body experienced? The sensation that we call the body?

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Ananta

Within your being, within your very existence, I am saying now that don't even make a distinction between existence, non-existence, my being, not being. Nothing is needed. If you had to have a conclusion to get to that, then that could not be that easy. Then that would be dependent on your conclusion. If it needs a step, even a mental step, in it, come on.

Seeker

Yeah. Where is his voice heard now? There is his voice heard in the body. Voices heard in the body. Where is the body experienced? The sensation that we call the body, this voice, every perception is experienced where?

Ananta

Yes. Now, what is more intimate to you? An experience in the space or that space yourself? And space, what does not come and go? These experiences or that space? Real of that space. So, if you have to meet life as something needed as peace, if you have to meet it as something, however that is, to not meet it as anything, I am neither something or nothing. But if you have to meet life in some way, meet it as space. It's a nice intermediary point because it at least takes away from this gross idea of myself, and it's very fairly quickly verifiable. This was into question: where is this voice heard? Where is your sight seen? Where is the body sensation experienced? I find that these are things which are coming and going within my own being. I've got to call it so. What can meet as space? That you surrender or you inquire. This whole so-called path, which is this, that which you can't meet with openness, you either surrender—Guru Kripa—or inquire: who is this happening to?

Ananta

So, our stubborn insistence is only then. A stubborn insistence is that I will not meet it as space and I will not inquire or surrender. That is just what elongates this seeming path. You want to get something. It's like, all that is fine, it's okay for certain, but these relationships, what are these things we were going through? Relationship, money, state of the body, and struggle for freedom or meaning. That's all. Yeah, in this realm, only these four main variables. Suppose you went to a realm which had fifty variables instead of relationships, money, security, body, and search for meaning or truth. These four ways, mostly, mostly. No?

Seeker

At what is it, this level of computer games in demand? Something, say, dropping on our clearance. Okay, so that is your lease raised me, but a relationship species, yes. Species become good, create an action. Someone does not interested the world and God that everybody talks about, you know, and God is the distinction between these. Yeah, I just, some experience.

Ananta

Okay. What we have, what troubles us, if the fourth is seeking meaning on God's call, Sharif, whatever you call it. Somebody came with the problem somewhere else. It is me constructed so much. This is the relationship. I rest on the relationship, with the relationship with money, with body, and with the search for meaning, the search for Self. So, I did what we do. Forget about me. I'll look at all of these and see that they are just made up. Then, over. Game over. Next level. The level of sixteen variables only makes sense when you get there. The clues are here. It's good. We do what I think you've got good references. Four-dimensional realm with four dimensions of problems. Those who want to put whole different dimensions, recommend about sixteen dimensions. Eleven, sixteen make sense in the night. Haven't you seen this flat world? Those three-dimensional beings come into a two-dimensional realm and he's trying to explain, and the ones who are just into the two dimensions, they just can't get the context of depth or something like that. They can't understand what it is. So how do we explain it? Yeah, let's end the screams. Power is imposed. So one of the things people like: power. Yeah. Thank you all so much for being in satsang today. Om Shanti Shanti Shanti. Satguru Sri Mooji Baba Ki Jai. Satguru Sri Papaji Ki Jai.