The Atma is God's fingernail you can hold onto

So God's presence, available to us within the core of our soul, within the center of Aantakana, is called the Atma. When we find the Atma, then through his eyes, the Sagunah and the Nirgunah is revealed. So you may say the fathers and the Holy Spirit is the same thing. Nirgunah Brahman, Sabunah Brahman and the Atma. So it is not possible, or let me not say not possible. It is highly, highly, highly unlikely that we will come to the revelation of the Sagunah or the Nirgunah without first being able to come to the Atma and to be able to live in the discipleship of the Atma. So Atma is God's fingernail that we can hold on to, to meet that which seems so far beyond what we can fathom at the moment.