राम
Awareness & Attention

Neither Conceptual, nor Perceptual

2019-04-16|49:45-54:25|Watch on YouTube

The reality we seek is not found in thoughts or senses but in the aware presence that knows all experience.

But What About ‘Me’? The unmanifest Reality of you is always there whether you are buying into the constructs of your thoughts or not. The only difference is then when you are buying into the construct of your thoughts, your living experience seems to be getting constricted by the false belief system and when you are not buying into those, it is not. But the Truth is always the Truth. That doesn’t go away. So the only difference then is that, you are saying ‘when you are in Satsang you are not believing the false about your Self, but many times in so called day to day life we end up believing the false about our Self.’ If that is how it is what you are actually saying is ‘Yes, I realise I am Awareness right now, but sometimes I believe I am a squirrel.’ What can I do about that? [Minds voice] Don’t believe you are the squirrel, at all times. But sometimes I still do. [Minds voice] Okay start with now. That’s all that you can do about it. It’s not that something Real is changing. But you as Consciousness have the ability to take yourself to be anything. So you end up taking yourself to be ‘Sumit’ from time to time, a man from time to time, those time to times.. because the hypnosis is compelling… but it will stop – once you see that there is no value in that even the belief will not be so strong. That which you are in Reality, does that change in anyway? The trouble is not for that One, the trouble is for which One? The trouble is for the One which we take ourself to be, who took on this spiritual adventure and wants to come to a fancy conclusion at the end of this story. It started on the journey of enlightenment, but the whole journey just ended because the protagonist died midway through the book – that’s not such a exciting end! Just like almost there, almost there… and then nobody could find the protagonist. And we followed the protagonist around for the entire 20- 30-40-50.. I don’t know how many years. So the narrative just dissolves, it did not end with enlightenment. Would you be happy if your spiritual journey ended like that? The end of the narrative - not the glorious ending that you wanted in the narrative - that is the important part. The ending of the ability or the inclination to place yourself in some limited reference, that is Freedom, not the reference of now becoming somebody becoming an enlightened Being, or some nonsense like that. Then when you lose the inclination to place yourself in any such narrative then those around you may start to say, first they will say that ‘you are depressed and stupid and loosing the plot’ then aeer some time as you remain without narrative then they may call you ‘Free or enlightened.’ But that's their problem you have not changed because you have not added anything to the narrative. Nobody ends this search by becoming an enlightened person, enlightening ‘me.’ It is just the end of the narrative because you do not know how to place yourself in a story anymore. That which I have shown you, just today also even if this is your first Satsang put that in your story. Let me see I want to hear a story like that. That which is Aware of all of these perceptions what happened to that one? Impossible! Because not in time then how will you put it in the story? To recognize that the narrative did not belong to a valid entity is to allow yourself to not be interested in the story anymore. Now, what continues to happen in spite of direct Satsang like this, is that quietly sometimes the voice comes in and says ‘but, what about me?’ And sometimes it can be both ways but many times it can be ‘how come Father doesn't confirm for me? He confirmed for this one, he confirmed for that one but for me he never confirmed.’ So if the ‘what about me?’ keeps coming back should we give that more importance or less importance? This ‘what about me?’ is not just about Satsang, it is about everything, it is about the mind trying to take ownership about of your pure insights and make them individualized. So neither can you carry this monkey on your back through the gates of Freedom, neither can you feed enlightenment back to this monkey which is waiting outside the gate. Because many times that becomes our attempt ‘I had such beautiful inquiry with Father. I saw I am the un-manifest and the [Clicking of figures] manifest. Now, what about me? [Smile] What about you? What do you want out of this? What do you want out of this? Are you even Real, that ‘me’ is that even Real? So do not fall for this trick. It is true that because of all the clicking and now I have started shouting and all of this stuff, it is tough to carry the me into this pointing as you have been shown (it is true). But don't fall for that trick that the monkey is waiting outside the gate saying ‘Ah, you had your fun come, come.’ What did we get? What did we get?’ [Waving of hand making gesture of let go] Let it go. Oeen I have said in Satsang that the recognition is super simple, super simple. In fact, simpler than simple. Nothing you have to do. In fact, if you are doing, you are going the wrong way. But it is this ‘what about me?’ resistance, conditioning, all of this stuff which seems to take more time, more attention. But all that you really have to do is ‘remain open and empty or remain in the unborn or let go of the false identification’ whatever pointer allows you to be open, you remain open.

Key Teachings

  • What we're seeking is neither conceptual (in the mind) nor perceptual (in the senses)—it is the knowing presence itself that is aware of both
  • Simply notice what is here now without trying to make it into something or analyze it
  • True understanding comes from direct recognition, not from thinking or intellectual processing
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From: Neither Conceptual, nor Perceptual - 16th April 2019