Why Do You Presume Who You Are? - 13th June 2018

Now, let's look at the first one. If there is God and 'me,' and God is not everywhere—God is everywhere—what means the separation actually happened? Is this your experience? This is what we presume, but it is never our experience. Second is that there is just God, or there is just one being. Sometimes we can have some condition about the term 'God,' so we can have to use 'God' as a word. So, this 'one being' is most useful. The third option would be what we started with, which is this 'me' is here and this 'me' should be helped to become free. So, do we have an experience of this 'me' in this present? If we did, we should be able to produce it for us separately. Has anyone found the 'me'? We thought so. If an elephant thought came to me, the thought came, 'There's a big elephant.' I am opening this because I'm making light of it, but actually what I'm saying is something important, which is that this appearance at all, it seems to represent a 'me.' Is that enough validation for us? If you go to the king and say, 'I deserve 50% of the inheritance,' 'Who are you to deserve 50% of the inheritance?' and you say, 'I had a thought that I am the son of the king.' Then how do we take this? Is the evidence of this as evidence enough for the actual existence of one? The thought can appear seemingly, 'I want to do this, I want to do all of these things.' It could seem with this, the appearance of the thought, does it is enough? Somebody comes and says to me, 'Show me your passport or your identification.' 'Who are you?' and he says, 'I had a thought that I'm a policeman.' If you look at it, the thought appearing and making a claim for the 'me' is not valid proof even in this world. How come it serves as valid proof for us? Just the 'me' talking comes, 'I this, I that.' Fine, whatever. But if you don't accept evidence of the mind, what witnesses this thought? Then a thought comes, when the 'me' thought comes, when the 'I' thought comes, what witnesses this? How is this thought representing this witness? It isn't. In this witness, we find no 'me.' So, who is this thought claiming to represent? What did you find leading to the 'me'?

So, when the thought comes, for example, 'I want this to be my last life,' never believe this thought. 'I want this to be my last life.' So, we see this thought is not representing this body. If we say, 'Now I'm talking about this body, the last life of this body,' because who is this thought representing? I'm going for an answer. Is it representing nothing or something? I don't know. Did you find this one? Don't settle for a thought about it. Don't settle for a thought about it, that it will keep itself. 'I want freedom.' So, don't learn so much about what it is. One setting for the 'I' is the 'I.' You will presume that. Who's the 'I' and who wants freedom? Nobody. Who doesn't want freedom? You never want to break it up. Stay visible. Do not get orders to submit. Go down from 39, but it's possible. Virtual room, okay. Let's make it like that. And who wants freedom? Nobody. Yeah, big question. Yeah, who doesn't want freedom?

I'm very impressed with all of you because that means you heard that it's not about what is on this side of the wall. Because what you put after 'want' can change. It can be freedom, it can be anything. Lots of phenomenal things can come over there. But what is important is on this side: the 'I' that wants or doesn't want freedom. That is the important part of the notion. If we need to focus on the content of the want, it is to literally put the cart before the horse. That is why it is important to clarify first before you build the cart or before you attach a cart. Don't you want to know who's that upon the cart? Is it the horse, donkey, buffalo, cow? What is it? So, before you attach something to 'I,' you have to know what this 'I' is. But then you attach freedom, what bondage is with you? That when we desire, or you now fully desire to be, you want truth. For that, we first have to conform to what you are attaching it. Why are you happy to presume? How many are happy to presume? We were happy to presume who you are. Every time you presume who you are, you become unhappy. Anytime you presume who you are, then comes even to be envied. So, there is no rational reason to presume. Why are you doing it? In this world, when you see people harming themselves, we usually call it a habit because there's no rational reason to. There is no rational reason to have that drink. There is no rational reason to have that cigarette. There is no rational reason to give yourself substances which are harming your body. No rational reason. And all of you already said that you don't want to presume anymore. And every time we presume that we are the separate entity, we become unhappy anyway. So, what to do now? Presume no more.

Father, when you asked who witnesses, it is said that when we ask who witnesses, the witness has no desire. Witnesses that witness having no desire. You say even in the asking, 'Who is witnessing?' they say that there is a witness. One more time, because the 'I' who sees, or the 'I' who sees that this witnesses. By the way, this witness has no desire to witness that. That is the table to die in this question. You say, actually what you're saying is, 'I see.' That means we can search for desires with either the series with myself. No desire, which is that. But you see the next move? We asked a question in satsang, 'Witnesses that.' We would find anything. Witnesses the thought, witnesses the body, witnesses emotion, witnesses the ring or the form. Yes. Now you say, 'When I look, I find that this witness has no desire.' Then we cannot. If you found that there is a witness that has no desire, you must have witnessed this witness. You see, 'I found that the witness has no desire,' then you must have seen it because you are not making it up. We are not making up that the witness has no desire. It's your experience. Who experienced it? Who had witness to this? Some of them say there is no final witness. Quality witnesses and right here, these are for you witnessed. Then you see it's blank, but somehow I am there.

How many have this? You see what witnesses this witness report is blank, but somehow I am there. What is blanking? You never ate and we learned what is blanking is blankness, an absence of light, no quality. Right? Let's go in slowly. Does it have the quality of blankness like blank reams of absence? When we say 'fill in the blanks,' blank refers to the absence of a word to complete the meaning in the sentence. Is that what we use? Default blank? So, this that witness is good and can say that the witness has no desire. But which is a witness to this? Is it the absence of something? Does it have that quality? Does it feel like something could be there but it isn't? Or simply there? And these words will really make sense if you only think along, if you're just trying to understand it. It's all there. Sometimes we feel like it's so empty of quality that the closest word that the mind can pick, of course, is that it's blank. But...

We use default life. So that witness is good, and we can say that the witness has no desire. But that which is a witness to this, is it the absence of something? Does it have that quality? Does it feel like something could be there but it isn't, or is it simply there? And these words will really make sense if you only think along. If you're just trying to understand it, it's all there. Sometimes we feel like it's so an-here-on quality that the closest word that the mind can pick, of course, is that it's black, but it's not. Then using that it is presence, not absence. To that which witnesses presence, even these two are opposites: presence and absence. For that which witnesses, is either presence or absence? Is that present or absent? Now we have completely lost the mind. This question put very good. We must expose anyone moving. Wait for me to say this fixes it. It clearly puts me in an uncomfortable position, which is when we go back to where we started in the sense when I asked the question: 'What witnesses the being?' Then I am in an uncomfortable position.

Now she says, the questioner asks: 'Can the perceiver be perceived or the witness witnessed?' There is this feeling of uneasiness come now. This people, is it 100%? What is the partner? He live, I can't experience what cannot put different words. Yes, that is true. So the uneasiness is because this means we look and you said it doesn't have all very, so that means it will come and go. What we not coming? What is aware of this now? In one is uneasy feeling to come to this that is aware of holding, losing its power. As you invited to come, awareness itself invited to have more power and people were already witnessed. Now people, whatever influence, so you see, you see not equal away. Now you step out of awareness and become the one that is affected by this feeling. So you have to jump out of awareness and become the one that is affected by it. Can't do it.

So right now only the seeking affecting me. He said that this feeling is not coming to awareness. If I know me to detach it, there is no way for in reality for me to step out of this awareness and become affected by this feeling, although one that is affected or suffering. And this feeling is be fun and yes, this feeling is currently a lot of extra fire is in reality. The feelings can come and go. In fact, that is why I feel instantly now. If the job was you trying to get affected by that, what would you have to become? But this feeling is coming now. I love with not to avoid it but to dine be affected by the feel. And what would you have to become? Become a wholesome autistic open ocean. Okay, now try to pick up an ocean and be effective. Whatever, we can't do it. That we cannot be to save. It's all a bit scheming with using in me. I feel very uneasy.

Then we explored into the nature of this one. We started when we finish with his, his completely watery. We say no, there is the part which is independent of it. With that far you invited to come. It cannot come to even knew that which is aware. You go to it, you cannot go. So there is no way for a phenomenal occurrence to divert the reality of you. You see that? Then I say fill job was the opposite. It was to try and get affected, you see? Because you hear this in some time, then you say, 'I can get effective only if I pick up emotion.' We leave a calm, but even that actually is not clean. But it can seem like I am effective. It can seem like there's no me who is affected. What is the short question being asked? Are you go back? Voltron, we see asking this question for heroes, but I wonder how many of you actually feel like water really asked? It's an amazing you answer yes in spite of not having her. We will order some food. We live off this away, whatever else to see. I'm not over what we actually are saying is 'I'm aware,' then I got away.

So this one you see, what do you see? What do you mean by experience? And then you say, 'I am so Pina Colada.' At least to finish the music now. Oh, you know mister, you see? Or awareness is they are you all right now? On what basis do you serious? We really, really good. It's really because everything else you are phenomenal. This is for saying yes. If there is hope on this one, yes, one you see is perception. It's a pan. Oh, oh, you see that? Wait and see. It is not nothing, is it? Wrong of cool, right? If you have the experience, is your mind active or I mean happy or sad or in pain or pleasure? You have the experience of it. On the basis of it you say yes. Are you happy? It is on this place of phenomenal experience do we answer all of these questions. But when I ask you, 'Are you aware now?' what is it? What are you coming to face to face with? In innocence, innocence. It's like this. Innocence have an opposite gas comes from innocence. It's slide. So it's automatic like it comes from where you're just the question: 'Are you aware?' And then why? Because we're inside. So before any of that begins, yes, sometimes we don't serious and sometimes even say yes or not sound like a complete conclusion is where a process comes and this it's even before you can say yes.

Yes, what do you mean by missing? Then implies that it is something which is steam. The only conceptualization we are comparing conceptualization will be the process that we would have to prove. Yeah, if it was a metal.

Yes, in essence doesn't require verification. Okay, that's it for this. So does this mean that this yes is a verified? Yes, yes. Now this is level. So even to let me see 'I am,' I don't wanna see if you do that level of obviously the 'I' is the most obvious. Means more of this, the less of this, and then that emergency which is less obvious than that. Because ultimately if you forgot your name moment, then yeah, you have to use some thought or some movie for verification. But this is one question that is the most obvious. If you cannot even eat society yourself, that is the most obvious. And here the funny part about is to detune seeking is what they're looking for this end. We obviously cannot do everything else we can for we, but you cannot follow me yourself.

But what is he talking about there? Is there any phenomena we do not come and move? Many phenomena who did not come in book. So if all phenomena comes and goes, who must be there to say their own phenomena from the moon more than if I were to say if they're always traffic on this road and you were to say no and that is not always another time there is water? It means you must have, you have to be there to see that there is traffic and there is no traffic. To the one that says it all, this phenomenon witnessing the name is doing all the phenomenon activity happening. The second word is the person is perceiving molecules and their third word which is not enough, but this third word in the witness of all story you or devices witnesses all of this difference in his word which means beacons between your expressing.

Then the world which is proceeding one with this movement, my inner self, my presence in existence gives a substratum for this mere perception to happen. But what is aware of this existence is being with purse needs all of this with Mustafa see this being which is the consumer of only object. What is aware of this person? This year ago for property property sense nocturnal if it's present or absent because this is so and feel quality there even blind or fully presence or absence does not apply. Then Maya says it is that in capitals which is aware of plant order or anything or life or nothing. And it is now the mind will come in sync with this is fine. I triggers in the what witness is that which witnesses directive witnesses back when we come and say like that, but it is just not possible for it to be in phonetic lips.

When you step one step backward only conceptually, what witnesses that the witness event queue designer upon here and already you're empty of authority? So therefore nothing to be witness even the qualitative perception you cannot find here now. If you don't mind, then we come up with an inquiring in series: but what witnesses that which witnesses the witness? Then you know that you're just getting fancy with a greater world. This is easy. You know that you're just getting fancy with a blue tower. It's time to go through some multiple possible because that which itself the answer you can say real fathers truth without any phenomenal there is no step left to go back one step further. There is no possibility to go backwards from there because reality itself is the substratum, the primary. And this is very dutiful in exploration. The technical fields please, and any of you actually seems to convince me that it is possible if you have one in 500 we also want to translate that. I'm happy to hear your experience, what your concept for your experiences, otherwise it did become a philosophical degree. Thank you philosophers, where are you all standing here? Standing on the world. The world's happy with this. It's turtles all the way down where it becomes like to this conceptual concept of infinite details. But from your direct answer it will be beyond intellectual, we are perceptually to be intuitive when you take a step for the back and that which is aware of your existence like yourself people you know America resistance what is the wear of this already very resistant or is aware of this arrives have you taken one step back possible reality a little again too much jack in stock.

Now we do sorry I feel it's a one-on-one. No, excuse me, we averted this before. It cannot be that there are 35 bucks. Thank you, pay attention to what is being said. Asking for this attention there, this process of inquiry here, try to direct it in the words of thing firing. I certainly very much prefer it to be as quiet as but I have a very hard time to follow the defeats include using my mind is being the differently new to something by the end I'm doing to what do you some sense of frustration is very natural for it to come for a while. If you feel like there's too much every word can seem like if you just go straining what is he saying strange like that and it is felt for many many composites are basically like you say you're new to serve something self-inquiry oh it seemed like we were kinda capillary different difficult fatty.

Why does it happen like this? It is because you didn't want to understand what I'm saying. We will actually not understand all that but we will see what you'll be 23. Nobody has ever understood actually and it did seem like they when the students on the average who very intimate feel ready. Nobody is what I'm saying but many have seen what I'm saying. Part of this is the conclusion trying to follow because where I'm pointing to is the poor is the essence. So even your existence your mind cannot because their mind will not Google's can not do with this do some advice. I know it is super irritating because I talked about this as well keep saying we with innocence I am and I just would not fathom what if you since I have but one day is room.

You like everybody right now Scooby we should go through there. I'm finding it feels like utter when you see a bedroom and given him a motionless existence this I understand but much is you know when you see you see ask yourself Who am I for what to dry the prison hit that presently impact material you might say when you see leave everything to the Creator power leave everything to Satguru or God whatever name you want to commit and everything will be taken care of anything and even if you say that none of this will actually make me in its hem put something but oh we do we do you see you see there is no reason for me to come to such Satsang yet I want to keep coming 39 what am I getting here and not even understanding single word is saying and see what will become it could be a bit lighter and something like that is good very good. This really mean curl perfectly words that have been designed to create some concepts along the spending the title is a very simple model of understanding and this is anything even a spiritual healer most spiritual movements are about the universe particular understanding their masters Grayson that's unlike this is an

Keep coming. What am I getting here? I'm not even understanding a single word he is saying. And see what will become. It could be a bit lighter and something like that is good, very good. This really means to occur perfectly. Words that have been designed to create some concepts along the way, the title is a very simple model of understanding. And this is anything, even a spiritual healer. Most spiritual movements are about the universe, a particular understanding. Their Master's grace in that, unlike this is, and then you can see that it is completely possible without this system, without a conceptual model, without any sense of identity.

Yes, it seems that there is no need for words. There appears to be no need for concepts coming to the tongue all the time. We spent without words the continued existence of some without any time. How much time to this time without these regions? Believe me, you were the best because of this addition to the line. Therefore, what happened? Words of this in order to think upon that, and especially for old days, one you like because don't hesitate to, yeah, whatever you see. Your understanding has to be cooled down and you simply remind me of so much for being in satsang today. Satguru Mooji Baba.