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Who Knew That You Have to Drop Your Certainty to Come to Certainty - 20th March 2020

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Ananta emphasizes that truth is found by bypassing the intellect and resting as the awareness that is already present. He encourages students to drop conceptual grasping and meet the current global challenges with humility and presence.

Don't go to the playground of the intellect and tell me what you find.
You have to drop your certainty to come to certainty.
If you don't go to the playground of the intellect, isn't the meaning of everything completely clear?

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Transcript

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Ananta

This is looking... I want to do an experiment. I'm going to unmute everyone and I'm going to put on a button and see how that sounds.

Ananta

Sahaja. Guru kripa kevalam. Namaste. Welcome everyone to satsang today. Guru Sri Mooji Baba ki jai! I've forgotten how this works. What are we supposed to do now? Someone wants to say something? I'm going to unmute. So good to see all of you. We've never had so many in satsang. If you take breaks more often... So already we have a question. So, because you can ask, you want to type or you want to speak?

Seeker

Yes. Hello, Father. Hello, everybody. I just wanted to ask... yesterday I felt like I have to get it on an urgent basis. I don't know why, maybe because of course my mind was affected, so I had to get it. Today was like that running in my mind yesterday night. So I listened to one of your previous satsang videos on YouTube where you were totally pointing to just find out who is actually aware of all the things which are happening in the mind. So that is it. Things are happening in the mind and I am just aware of it. So I was just trying very much to find out who is that. So there was a sense of calmness and actually I went into sleep in that only. Morning I remembered somewhere during that listening to you where it was kind of big. I did not do it intentionally, but as you started answering, it became a kind of guided meditation and somewhere in between I went to sleep also. But there was a sense of calmness. But still, I have to know the knower here. So that is the question, Father.

Ananta

You have to what?

Seeker

Yeah, Father. So I am making sure that I am not coming back to my intellect because I'm very much clearly seeing my intellectual tendencies also. So now I am just... I'm aware. I'm totally saying I am aware. See, you asked a very simple question which struck me actually. You just asked this thing: which is aware, which is self-aware, aware of itself? Are you not this? My answer to that question is that I am definitely aware and I am aware of myself, and beyond that I could not say anything to answer your question. So then probably some time later I went to sleep now.

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Ananta

So let's do whatever happened. It has happened; it's over. You said something very nice. You said, 'Let me not use my intellect. Let me not use my intellect.' And let's see if we can get it right. So don't go to your intellect and tell me what you find.

Seeker

I don't find anything, but I am... let me just use the words: I am here. I am aware. Without being actually... it cannot explain who I am aware of or how I am here. I am here and I am aware.

Ananta

So if you don't make any distinctions—because intellect makes distinction—can you make any distinction without the intellect now?

Seeker

No. To answer this question, you have to use the intellect. But you say that without using the intellect, here I am aware of this hereness, of this presence. But even these words I just used for communication.

Ananta

Yeah. So if you don't go to the playground of judgment, interpretation, which we call the intellect, then this truth which is being pointed to is evident, isn't it?

Seeker

Yeah. Now is this... we did... you know, the truth is there. Isn't someone who's clamoring for the truth, wants the truth right now? 'I want it.'

Ananta

So you're able to unmute again because everyone's... sorry.

Seeker

Father, so yeah, what you're saying is right. There is someone who just wants to go and grab it, but at the same time, it is seen as the other side of the thing. It is seen as a side of intellect.

Ananta

So it is seen. Don't try to make anything out of the discovery. Just relax and with the innocence of a child, you can tell me whether you are still there or not.

Seeker

I'm here. Yes.

Ananta

You see? So this is, simply put, it is self-knowledge because you are aware that you are here. That's it. Yeah. Now, the one... what happened to that one?

Seeker

He's not here because he's like... he rises and dances, but now he is not here. So I don't know, he's actually not there now. Right now.

Ananta

Yes, yes. So that one which comes and goes, we don't need to bother. Let me make this claim on your behalf: that getting it is simply this. There is nothing more than you. If you don't burden this very simple discovery—which is not really even a discovery actually, it's just a simple seeing, just to use words—if you don't burden it with an expectation of what should happen now or what does this mean, that's it. Nowhere else to go or nothing else to do.

Seeker

Only one thing seems to be burdening, but I am just giving it as a report and I am not going to catch it. So it is saying to me that... but still, like Father's statement that awareness is aware of itself, maybe as you say, I am expecting some grand, you know, things to happen or something like that. So I will let it go and I will just follow your guidelines.

Ananta

This is actually simply... there is no such grand discovery in that. I know the way it sounds, 'awareness aware of itself,' it can sound like it's a very special state that you have to come to. But it is not a state that you have to come to. It is just a statement about what already is. When I asked you, 'Are you aware now?' and you see, 'Yes, I am aware,' is it not you as awareness which is aware of itself? It's only in these words that the same simple discovery can start to seem very grand or very confusing, but we do not have to bother with either of them.

Ananta

Okay, thank you. Thank you for that question. The next question is: 'Beloved Father, what can we learn from Corona?' Many, many things to learn. At a phenomenal level, at an earthly level, there are many things that we understand about the world because of this happening. Let's call it a happening. One is that clearly, because especially in India, there's this very fantastical notion about the human race being all-powerful, the strongest and the smartest and everything. Great, loud words. And mentioned in this creation is the low dimension of humanity. It is very beautiful, of course, I'm not denying any of that. But this arrogance that we are the only true presentation of God, that is getting completely clobbered in these times. I feel like all our albums of being the greatest in the world, all these ideas... I mean, a very, very small, infinitesimally small creature is leading to so much for the entire humanity. And it could be... this could be just one of many. But it is just one of them.

Ananta

So I feel like there are very beautiful lessons in humility here, in gratitude, in thankfulness. Because we all are learning... like somebody at work sent me this message saying we start to value a handshake and to be able to look at each other without the filter of a screen, and a hug, and all these beautiful things which we just took for granted so much more now that you've been quarantined in this way, you are isolating, so put into this sort of self-isolation in this way. So it's really a mixture of humility and demolition of arrogance, as well as valuing what is available for us in our human existence and human construct. We're going to value that from our ephemeral existences of being human and existence of this planet in this realm as a human being a lot more, I feel.

Ananta

And these events happen... so many things. I could speak about this for a long time, but I wonder, because everybody is I'm sure inundated with things about this, so I wanted not to focus necessarily the entire time on this very topic. So in a way, it has brought us all together because after a long time, I feel like the entire world feels as one. As someone maybe says this, so to speak. Of course, our great enemy just continues to be the ego and separation. But materially, it seems like we're uniting in much stronger ways now. Common devices to look at and deal with so many things. Grace of consciousness, of course. There are great heights of paranoia and things like that. And I noticed that a little bit of a cough came out through this body, and I'm sure we are meeting people now with a cold or some cough and we don't know about their condition and what's going to happen. So it's not, of course, all good play. A great amount of fear is magnified in Maya. A lot of conspiracy theories, a lot of things like that. But all in all, I have to say, with this size, everything else is sub judice. Grace and accept it as that, and not feel the fear, not fear the virus. Whatever is must be, grace is taking care of in negative as with everything else. Those are the words that came up when this one sees your question.

Ananta

If you have something... there's a bit of all of this we can speak. Someone, the next one says: 'Father, as it is said, even a blade of grass doesn't move without His permission. His imprint determining the amount of identification and suffering a man has to go through. And as no matter how much effort is put on here, still the identification and suffering takes place. If that's the case, then I should let the suffering happen as it is now.' As you know, a question like this has many levels at which it could be answered. So if you want to refer... if you want me to refer to you as a man or as a person, then something like this could be fine. It's fine. As a person, of course, you don't have this kind of power to determine what is going to happen. But as consciousness, and that is wonderful, but to refer to you as the being itself, all of this is your play. Not a blade of grass moves unless it is your will.

Ananta

So this power to identify and not identify also belongs to that which is all-powerful, the only one. So as I refer to you as this being, as one being, as my being, that is an inspiration in this one alone for this one being to not refer to itself as a limited entity. So God sees itself as a limited being which is left powerless on this world by God, left to suffer in this way, because that is a very limited way to look at yourself. So although it may be the preliminary step to surrender, it is not the highest. And even to take yourself to be consciousness actually is not the highest, but it is the premise in which we hold satsang, which means it involves satsang to take ourselves to be consciousness. Because the power of belief, the power of identification, lies within consciousness, lies in this being.

Ananta

And even right now, there is nothing that forces you to take yourself to be this limited being, to take yourself to be this limited identity. You cannot find your boundary. You cannot find your starting or your end. You cannot find your birth or your death. So all of these limitations that are coming with the conditions of taking yourself to be a limited person, a limited man as you say, they mean... of course, it can be said that the one who doesn't exist obviously doesn't have any power. How can that which doesn't exist have power? So it all depends on the reference point that you are thinking about yourself now. You as being, you as consciousness, are the light of this entire world. Someone asked this very beautiful question. He said, 'In whose light do you see the light of the sun?' So this light, this being, the consciousness, is what gives light to everything. And this is what I'm referring to you as. And that is why in this screenplay, I realized there it is a strange place. How can consciousness be suffering? That is why the construct of the Lila or the play is the one that intellectually comes closest to defining what seems to be happening here, which is that consciousness seems to be identifying as a limited body-mind and taking itself to be a limited entity and seems to be suffering in this way. And then taking itself to be this limited body-mind is saying, 'How do I get out of this suffering? Is this all your will, God, that I have to suffer through?' But who's playing this game? It is God itself which is putting on this mask. And suffering is a very elemental part of this mask of humanity, your individuality. So without this notion of separation, notion of the idea of a limited entity, can there be any suffering? Is there any suffering now?

Ananta

Be a limited entity and seems to be suffering in this way and then taking itself to be this limited body-mind is saying, 'How do I get out of this suffering? Is this all Your will, God, that I have to suffer through?' But who's playing this game? It is God itself which is putting on this mask, and suffering is a very elemental part of this mask of humanity, your individuality. So, without this notion of separation, motion of the idea of a limited entity, can there be any suffering? Is there any suffering now? And how is it that I don't have to wait for a specific moment to ask that question? I can ask that question at any point of time. See, I can guarantee you that right now, for any of you, there is no suffering right in this very moment. And if I can ask that in every moment, is suffering real or it's just an idea that we seem to... that if it is never there every time I see now? It's not a special moment in which that now comes and says, 'Okay.' Because as I am saying how it must go over here, it is actually not something that you have experienced the presence of. It is a pure intellectual exercise which is, 'Oh, it is distinct from pain.' Because pain and pleasure are a natural part of this human existence. You can say that the presence of pain can be experienced, but when you take pain and not anything that appears in this early construct, then you intellectualize it, really. Then you have the potential to make suffering out of it if you judge it, if you resist it, if you say that this should be or should not be. That is how we make something out of that which is a pure perception.

Ananta

So, this is freedom, because you see that nothing that appears, nothing that can reveal itself in this perceived world, actually has the potential to cause any suffering. Of course, it does have the potential to appear as if it is pain, but for suffering, you need to have a judgment. We need to say, 'We should not.' So, in the eyes of those who are free, apparently free, they don't seem to experience suffering, although they do seem to experience pain. Let's see, I'm using the built-in mic here... oh, this is quite low now. It may be too loud. Is it good now? All right, so this is better.

Ananta

So, let's take a question: 'Guruji, did Buddha actually attack and deny the existence of Brahman, or did he attack the misconception of the word Brahman by traditionalists?' Okay, so this is an interesting question which I would love to speak about. So, I want to tell you that the project of Shankara and the project of all the Vedantins before him—or at least Advaita Vedantins before Shankara—and Shankara and his complete union after that, and the project of the Buddha and all the Buddhists, has been exactly the same. When I say the project has been exactly the same, I mean that the intention or the feeling behind the sharing has been exactly the same. And you know, as you rightly pointed out, the main point of distinction has been between this concept of Shunyata or zero... you see, 'nothing' is a rough translation into the Shunyata or Shunyata, which is the concept of Brahman, has been a concept which has led to so much trouble between these two sort of groups of people.

Ananta

So, let's see if we can deconstruct that a bit. So, how do you come to the direct recognition of this Brahman? The instant that you are left without any notion or reference to anything, especially 'I.' See, the moment you are left empty of any conceptual reference to 'I,' that which you experience the being of things, for the Self, that which you experience the being of things for the Self, we call it Brahman. Of course, Brahman has one more technicality, which is the Nirguna, which is the attributeless aspect of Brahman, and Saguna, which is the attribute-full aspect of Brahman. See, but what I am referring to is the Nirguna, that which is apparent to you, which is not usually apparent in your very being. So that becomes instantly clear that we need to drop all references to everything.

Ananta

Now, it also happens for many Vedantins that in the chasing of a notion called Brahman, in the chasing of a notion called Brahman, yeah, we become unable to drop the final reference, which is Brahman itself. And that's why that word prevents us from actually experiencing through direct intuitive insight that which this Brahman actually is. See, but the same thing can also happen with the notion of Shunyata or zero, you see? Because if you keep chasing Shunyata and you don't leave the notion of Shunyata—I mean, chasing that Shunya—you are stuck with the idea of it and never the actual experience of this. So, whether you call it the Self or you call it the not-self, Buddha actually references to something, they define something, but the project ultimately was to take us beyond even these notions. And that which you discover, whether you choose to call it Brahman, the Self, the Absolute, the Highest, or you choose to call it Shunya or zero or nothing or nothingness, it is completely up to you.

Ananta

So, just to conclude this point, the Buddhists say that to grasp anything is suffering. You see, what kind of grasping are they talking about? Are they talking about holding an apple? This tree, does he know? To grasp everything is suffering, implies to grasp clearly a notion in your head, to hold on to any idea or conceptual idea that this is what reality actually is, which is what everybody believes actually is. To tell you that an idea in your head can actually encapsulate reality, you see? But when we do that, we suffer. And they just presented this idea and they said that you must come to that which is nothing, so that we give up all grasping, all holding on to any conceptual version of reality, which is actually the same as Advaita Vedantins. So, actually, there is no real difference when you try to get to the same recognition, the same realization.

Ananta

Now, the terms that we use to get there create all this trouble and all of this problem. And that is why if you see for yourself—you know, I mean, I'm using the word 'see' lightly—if you see for yourselves what your own truth is, then this sanctuary is over, old country. When you can come to what is true for you, they become irrelevant because you will see that both Shankara and Buddha were saying the same thing. They were not saying the same thing, but what they were pointing to was the same. So, what are you now? Motionlessness. So, with this kind of knowledge—false knowledge, mental knowledge—we only create a conflict. Like for the traditional Advaitins, Shunyata is bad, Shunya is bad. For the traditional Buddhists, Brahman is bad. You see how they say that one is deluded because he's chasing Brahman, and then they say, 'Oh, that one is deluded because he's chasing Shunyata.' All of us are on the river because we take false knowledge to be a true representative of what is and fight about that.

Ananta

The problem is that even in this communication, and all communication, maybe the way communication is designed, we are then put on this treadmill of looking better and worse. So, you can sound... even these words can sound like I have a better plan or a better idea, but it's possibly not true. So, if you keep this false knowledge aside, what is your experience of even your perceived manifest reality? Okay, after I met Guruji, I saw a flower for the first time. But the thing is, it was no longer a flower. As with some of you sitting with me here, but the thing is, for 14 days we've not had Satsang in this kind of system, but we need the questions of a few of you to meet me without trying to understand. But you can understand without understanding; it's the best. Then they'll tell you to say that we need a new language, but if I start looking in that direction, I feel like constructing a new prison and so on. I don't feel like I need a new language either, but you've just been looking at some of these things that we've made our human existence too monochromatic, made it too simplified in terms of the stories that we tell each other.

Ananta

See, even right now, some of you may say, 'I'm so happy to be here. I'm loving this Satsang, sitar music.' But if you really look inside, it's never that simple. It's never... you cannot clearly define it like that because within you there may be many different feelings. There may be a little bit of that which you call boredom starting to allow a little bit of hesitation with the words. So, the words are spoken that 'me' is part of you, hopefully a big part of you. There may be some gratitude coming or a happiness coming that we are all together in this way. But we are involved in this oversimplification, make it too simplistic, and then it's like we get into... we take that story to be real and we try to solve these non-existent problems that exist in the life of the story, which are not your real experience right now. There is nobody here, including this mask, which can really say what is going on. You see? And when I say what is going on, I'm speaking just purely on the manifest aspect, forget about being able to see it, say about the unmanifest.

Ananta

So, what happens if you let go of these very, very monochromatic, very simplistic sort of stories about ourselves? What happens? Nothing. You don't lose anything. You don't lose anything of value. The only thing you lose is the ability to make these stories itself. So, what can truly represent? And please don't fall for this again, very simplistic idea that the absence of words can truly represent. We accept that, except that you are impossible to be represented either in words or in silence. If you had a thought which could represent you, that thought would create a brand new universe. You cannot represent one tiny slice of you with your magnificence, the broadness. So, as we learn to let go of the lance of these false representations, then you discover the true meaning of existence. But that meaning is not, again, conceptually a representative agency right now.

Ananta

Like I was doing earlier, if you don't go to the playground of the intellect, isn't the meaning of everything completely clear? So, isn't it funny that what we thought we were doing to get to an understanding of something actually was that itself which took us away from that understanding which was already there? And one says, 'Further questions arise and dissolve in the light of resonance.' They don't need to announce this. And everything that I've said and everything that we can ever say is provisional, it's all provisional. So, you have to drop your certainty to come to certainty. And this, this you cannot hide it at all from this. You cannot hide, you cannot sneak in the slightest righteousness. And when I say righteousness, I am matching, although it is the same in a way, but righteousness when I say most of all, so you will imagine right about something. Even the slightest idea that you feel like, 'In this idea, in this concept, I have been able to capture some essence of reality,' and that is the impact motion where is the root of all suffering, all grasping, all resistance. And even this is complete nonsense the minute we say it. And this will also sound like that, of course. Wait, the minute we say, 'This is how something is,' the seeker in our minds is only speaking nonsense. You can't even be certain of that.

Ananta

So, where does it leave us? It leaves us outside this ballpark of the intellect. That's all the finance, trust me. So, one said, 'It leaves us at your feet.' In a way, this is true because the feet that you're speaking of is your own divine presence. It's only divinity. So, we've been missing our divinity because we were trying to understand it. We were trying to get knowledge about things, and this knowledge is taking us away from true knowledge. Suppose you go to a farm, and on that farm there are all these trees which are full of tomatoes, okay? Then you meet the man, a brother, and he's doing digging on the ground. And you've been asking, 'What are you looking for?' He says, 'I'm digging for tomatoes, for tomatoes.' So, what are you going to tell him? I'm going to tell him, 'You should keep digging, you'll only find potatoes.' If you stop digging, you will see that they're...

Ananta

We were trying to get knowledge about things, and this knowledge is taking us away from true knowledge. Suppose you go to a farm, and on that farm, there are all these trees which are full of tomatoes. Okay? Then you meet the man, 'Oh brother,' and he's doing digging on the ground. And you ask him, 'What are you looking for?' He says, 'I'm digging for tomatoes.' For tomatoes? So what you're going to tell him? I'm going to tell him, 'You should keep digging; you'll only find potatoes. If you stop digging, you will see that they are all around you.' So, going into your head expecting to find truths is just like that. It's like going to a machine to measure the enormity of space in you. Do you understand?

Ananta

Next question is: 'It is suggested that let's let thoughts come and go. You just watch them without identification. But many things which come automatically get identification as they are about what is going on in the phenomenal world. So how to be un-identified with them spontaneously?'

Ananta

So, if you are taking yourselves already to be the limited being, an entity which has a boundary, then I could take the report to be true, saying that, 'Yes, for it, it may be too much for you and you can't help it.' Is it? You can't help it; you have to believe them, they're so strong. So, if that reference point is already very clear and it seems like that is your reality, then there are various practices and seeking solutions out of this predicament, like chanting or something. So, if you are certain that you are this limited object, then you then have no power over the thoughts. Then there are various other practices that can become the invitation here. But the invitation here is to check that it is not true that you are this little being inflicted by these thoughts. I am referring to you as consciousness, and nothing happens to consciousness. I don't think a thing can be done to consciousness. You cannot be the consciousness, being open and empty, letting all these thoughts come and go, and yet there is some thought which comes which is greater than consciousness, under the consciousness, and then takes over. Because if it is true like that, then all of us should be in reverence to thought, not to consciousness either. So, thought itself was the supreme; it had the supreme power in this situation. Then the true God, the true Lord that we should be in service to, is thoughts himself. No.

Ananta

I saw here that this is not the true position. I saw that this being, this brother, is, you know, maybe the world is coming, but not in the traditional way—stronger and everything else that arises in its own light. And nothing that arises in its own light has this kind of power over being as the mind itself would have us imagine. But it again depends on what feels truest in your heart. If it feels truest in your heart that it is automatic and you cannot just let go, then follow that full route. You see many, many spiritual practices which are available. In fact, those spiritual practices are looking for us so that we can win some saving control over attention and belief. So, if it feels clean that way, then you could look at that. But if what I'm saying is remaining true in your heart—somebody saying that all of these perceptions and showing this all acts, and every other sound including the sound of our thoughts, everything is coming against this naturally and nothing really has the power to hold me in my reality—then that would seem like a shortcut approach. It doesn't have to be, you see.

Ananta

So, even if you take your premises to be true, which is 'many thoughts which come get identification as they are about what's going on in the phenomenal world,' you can see that no thought can represent what's going on. Can you give me an example of what's going on right now? How many thoughts do you need to accurately represent what is going on right now? You can perceive. I can promise you that if you write a quota of a million thoughts, they will still miss a ray of light, some part of some shade of color somewhere in here. Where it will be cool to represent what's going on? There is the ache, but if the conditioning is to go to the mind for a clear presentation about what's going on, so I would say maybe not a good idea to say a little bit is coming up. If we have to go somewhere for what's going on, first definitely don't go to the mind's interpretation for what's going on. If you have to go somewhere, then go to your perception. I mean, that is not true in the Vedantic sense, but it is much more preferable to go into an interpretation. Better to go to perception—perceive what is phenomenal—rather than concluding with delusions. And then when something feels ready and right enough, what you could do is just go even beyond that. To what is appearing? To whom it is appearing? So what's going on? To whom it is appearing? Then the motion of 'going on' itself determines the motion of happening in itself. You see?

Ananta

For some more, plus we can start with how everybody, even right now, our minds may be freely activated saying, 'This is what's Michael, this is what he's saying, this is what I have to understand if I can only stay like this.' Trying to stay, you get it to the mind, that control. Little something, some of you. And then actually you are, after having been in such numbers of Satsang, maybe able to come to this time where you just perceive without grasping at any of this. Then some of you, I'm not even referring to what you are perceiving to give you an insight of what is there to move. What is the meaning of this? What is going on? Which are all the same crystalline tree.

Ananta

There's some questions piling up, so let me quickly go at them. So one says, 'Not conclude anything, is that enough?' It's good, but that would be a conclusion. You try it. See, without the guarantee of the meaning of 'enough' or not, you try first, you see? And then the conclusion you come to. But this is not enough; you need all the conclusions you come to. Yes, yes, this is enough really. And we throw both of them away. We won't bother with 'enough' because the 'enough' means what? It doesn't mean anything. It could mean some strange idea about freedom or discovering of the truth or any of that. But that's already known. So how to solve the non-existent problem?

Ananta

Next one says, 'Father, whenever I have any kind of spiritual experience or license, like very intense experiences, after coming out of those experiences, I tend to follow those experiences, trying to chase them. Yeah, I think this is about are you a yes? How to overcome this instinctive tendency?' You see, your noticing is as pure as any strategy to be with the champion. Because if you create any other steps around it, it is just going to become a human thing. It's going to become a new cage, a new prison. You say that, 'I have spiritual experiences; every time I have them, I start chasing them.' You notice that. That itself is very good. What I'm talking about is that see in your noticing the dog wisdom. Yeah? Otherwise, what will happen is that you start chasing, then not chasing them. 'Oh, the experience came, I should make sure I should not want it again.' You see, that's a new sort of chasing without an event.

Ananta

I realized that what I have said today, what I'm saying, how they seem very absurd to our intellect. I realize that because I'm not offering up any solutions in the traditional way. But I hope something there is being able to hear what I'm saying. Because if you decided that 'I am not going to chase them' and 'this is how I'm not going to chase them,' then you create a new prison for yourself. Isn't it? Chasing, chasing, chasing is away from your neutrality. Not chasing, not chasing, not chasing is away from the neutrality. Whether this is known or that, and all of these are the problems that we are encountering trying to solve a non-existent problem. It is impossible to find anyone who suffers more than one who is trying to solve the non-existent problem. And that is the bane of the spiritual seeker. Because they can get started this conversation, he said, 'I really want it now.' So how do you solve this non-existent problem that you don't have it? Obviously, you can't solve it. And that's what something looks like. How is it possible to want something which is not just what you already have, but it is in fact what you already are? How would you want something which is you? Let's see how you... obviously we may have an idea of oneself, you see? Okay? And those ideas are creating the smoking which is actually can be non-existent. Are you continuing about whom you are right now? Isn't it more apparent than everything else? Isn't it clearer than it can be? Because it cannot be clearer. Who has really lost themselves? The question itself is absolutism.

Ananta

Okay, quick, quick next one. 'Father, mind tries to imagine itself coming home, but it's a scene from my suit. Yes, it tries to make a story about being over in feelings and conclusions of taxing it. I give thanks for this opportunity to see and hear your arrogance.' It's a beautiful report. So, as in he has not been concerned about any perception or any conclusion. Independent of all conclusions and perception, when you check into your own truths, your own reality, you may use the tool like 'Who am I?' or 'Am I aware now?' We come to an undeniable self-recognition and do not burden any expectation on top of this self-recognition or try to get any new meaning now from the self-recognition. This is to come to the simple freedom. There truly isn't a step to take in any direction. The mind will come with many offers to you. It will tell you that you are still this body-mind who has come to this recognition, so therefore this body must represent this in some way. Or some mitigating that that is just a trick to come back to square one. A trick to come back to square one. This body and all bodies arise in the complete care of your being. Your being doesn't need any intervention to embody itself in all volumes. Now even these words are just Advaita-type words. This humming school leave as I speak, you see? So, as you know, the attempted conceptual understanding of this reality to a pure perception or purely tasting of this, that is the manifest reality. And then we go beyond even the taste of this manifest to that which is beyond the 14th.

Ananta

You know, by now, some friends, she made some posters of things like this. Absolutely the best. Say like, 'If you want tomatoes, don't go to the potato farm.' This kind of thing. When she put them in front of her bed so she could remind herself. Then, because their mother came eventually, which is same here with you of my reaction to these Americas funniest and should change person. We'll go to your mind for literal truth anyway. If you think you won't do it right within, just notice where that idea comes. You may think you're going to it for entertainment, but I am... but I've had a few things they see us so much at peace of mind now. I feel like quite easily you completely get it. And in most cases, that's the last. Not meaning to make it sound as this, how this play plays. There is nothing really of consequence that can happen here. We can keep meeting like this over and over, lifetime after lifetime, dream after dream, because to you it's not that critically important. But if you feel like you're done with this game, don't go to the potato farm. Okay?

Ananta

So, there are many of us here, but I wonder if we were able to come and say something. I'd like to hear from that Leon because I haven't heard from you for quite some time now. Did you say hello or whatever you feel like saying? Bless this world and maybe come with this oppressive mind, super critical or something. Whatever you feel is in your heart. Come on, come on. Now you have the ability to, and noticing the real ones to comfort skin. A new link can come on, only all of you one by one.

Seeker

Father, Namaste. I just wanted to share that this moment feels like a shower of grace upon all of us. Even everything in this dynamic life of viruses and people having to go inside their homes, and it's being so beautiful to see that if we cannot go outside, the only way out is inside. And it just brings tears to my eyes.

Seeker

Father, I just wanted to share that this moment feels like a shower of grace upon all of us. Even with everything in this dynamic life—of viruses and people having to go inside their homes—it is being so beautiful to see that if we cannot go outside, the only way out is inside. It just brings tears to my eyes. I just feel like saying that this love, this love is always here and we don't have to go anywhere to find it. It is ourselves. It is not gained by anything, by any merit; it is only ourselves. Thank you so much, Father. I love you so much. I bow to you so humbly. Love you.

Ananta

Who's next?

Seeker

Hi, Father. You know this video too, but my connection may not be very special. I just wanted to say, Father, I'm just so happy to be here. Yes, I don't know what to say. There is very little to say except just gratitude for everything. I feel like, you know, just being here with everybody, it's just that blossoming of that gratitude. You just feel like, if I could say it, just in these seeming strange times, it feels like such a beautiful opportunity and such a protection. I just want to thank you for this. Thank you for this beautiful service and getting us all together. Thank you, Father.

Ananta

Don't wait for me. Just come on, you and me.

Seeker

Father, yes, hello. Yes, I want to say thank you and to say that it's so beautiful to be here with the Sangha in this moment. I really love you, Father. Thank you. Hope to see you soon, everybody. I miss you, but I love you. And thank you. Bye-bye.

Ananta

See all the whole now. Listen to me, everyone. Everyone in Italy, because it means one of the most... yes, on everything in artistic way. And all of you were able to pray. Thank you.

Seeker

Hello, Father. Hello. I haven't seen you for a long time alive. I just want to say I love you so much and I am very grateful for your pointings. I try to apply them as much as I can and I can see results. I can see that something is growing and becoming more open, more just love. Love you so much and thank you that you've been doing this beautiful silence in mind. So it is bound to bow to you, my love.

Ananta

There has been no mistake. Let's say, my love, how are you? How's your family?

Seeker

Good, Father. I'm so happy. Just thank you so much for this time. Missed you so much. It was so wonderful to see you with Guruji in India. It was very interesting here in the United Kingdom; we're also on lockdown. But I find the climate just on the streets with everyone, there's a greeting for everyone, a smile. There's this very slow pace—except if you go to try and find toilet roll, then you can't be, but that's another story. But I just find this a very peaceful and nourishing time. I don't feel panic for myself or even most of my yoga students. Our classes are now online just like this. It's very interesting having to learn new things. So I just feel very taken care of and thank you so much.

Ananta

Yeah, thank you so much. Happy to see both of you.

Seeker

Hi, Father. Yeah, I was missing you too much. Thanks for this Satsang. Oh yeah, there was a lot of burning in the last few months, but everything is fine now. But it is still there, but everything is fine with it. Great, thank you for the Satsang and I hope it will continue like this. So happy to see you smiling and happy.

Ananta

There's no, there's practically no cases in your state?

Seeker

No, two cases are there. Two cases are there, but it is in the capital only, not much, not more than that. But only that they... thank you, Father.

Seeker

Thank you. Thanks for the Satsangs. Yesterday I visited a temple. Actually, I saw a photo of Lord Shiva there. He was sitting, disciples were sitting at his feet, and he has pinned down a demon with his right foot. So when I saw that photo, I just imagined you pinning down my intellect. So thank you, thank you very much. It was so beautiful, actually. I just kept staring at that photo for a long time.

Seeker

It was quite a while ago and I'm so happy to be back with you and see you are here live, and especially to meet you in Rishikesh, even though it was just one time. It felt so, so great. So unfortunately, I'm sitting here like a prison because I just got the coronavirus. Yeah, but it would be over there. Crazy statement. We discipline the over and super quick. Can you back me back to your computers really very fast? Thank you, Father. Thank you.

Seeker

Volga is trying to say something. I'm just a bit late so I didn't tell you. Yesterday I came to Rishikesh. I was invited, as you know, and I was really considering all the options. I thought I'd isolate myself in Hyderabad, but I was like, being there totally alone, it just felt no, you know? It was too much. And then people said stay away from Bangalore. Even my flatmate said okay. What's the other option? So I went up and there is little Sangha left, not much, but I'm here in a gated community and young guys are there. I freaked out today, I have to say, just now, because international flights got canceled. Tomorrow's the last day and today, just now actually, it appeared to me that I might not be able to come back for a few months in case, you know, it doesn't change. And if I want to be stuck here in India or if I just want to be in my country where they take care, you know, like I'm a citizen of that. So I just tried four times to book super expensive flights like for two thousand euros. How much rupees is that? Too much. And it fails. And then I called Eduardo and was like, 'Okay, so you just got me in this situation.' So please, Father, like so many closed already.

Ananta

Most countries have closed it for at least two weeks and I don't think India is going to open up. One week it wouldn't make sense, you see. Things are going to continue. Really, I'm really saying that you don't have to worry about anything at all. I feel like grace is taking care of all of us. Not worry at all. Enjoy your time in Rishikesh. Ram Ji will do so. What do you have to worry about? So it's fine that I couldn't get a flight. I don't have to go and try.

Seeker

Okay, so my father and my mother, they both say it's fine, so it's fine. Yes, they have no matter. She seems in great spirit. Too many words. I'm really amazed like she's dealing with the situation, you know. 'No, daughter, don't come. If I would die anyway, you can't even bury me,' you know? I mean, she even mentioned, you know, she didn't want to say that, but you know, okay. Right, I stay here then, I guess. Thank you, Father. I'm sorry.

Ananta

You know what's happening and it's pure joy, peace. Thank you so much. They're very nice. Nice. I can't hear you properly this time. It's trip, I think. I'm not sure. Well, maybe in the garden. A lot of them have been a joy. I can tell you, I had your picture right in front of me and I was sharing, and it reminded me so much of the whole time. Thank you so much. Seeing it in this room reminds me of when you started sharing. I think maybe you started to hear the people say, 'Keep up the good work.' Some better words will come. You want to share something?

Seeker

I haven't really got anything to share. Like, the only thing back home sometimes is like, because everybody is thinking about coronavirus and everybody is like self-isolating and everything, and it can seem like such a big deal, you know, when you're watching the news. And I know on some level it is like a big deal, but I've also felt actually when we're just in our direct experience, I feel probably most people, like 99% of people, are having a super beautiful time. Like if we're just in direct experience, and maybe even more beautiful times than usual because everything is closed down and quieter and we're just at home and it's like we're all on retreat or something. So like that, like you say, if you're not like in your thoughts, then it's beautiful. And that goes if you're... and if coronavirus is happening or not.

Seeker

I can only view, I can't say anything now. I can only echo what you say, Father. This is Murat from Boston. Syria will come up in the middle. We just saw you in Rishikesh only once, but it was so beautiful because I miss Bangalore this year. Thank you for sharing so much grace. And Alia, my daughter, she had such an amazing time and she was so touched by you and you created such great moments for us. So thank you for that. You know, in Boston we're all sequestered and I'm calling it the 'Sadhana Virus' instead of the coronavirus. But even more important than that, I think the fact that you have to confront the fact that any of us could get it and we may not make it—you have to confront death right up front. And I think that's great. You know, it's nice to be able to sit in the presence of the great transition because it could happen. But there's so much peace required and I think it's a very important point for all of us. And I think I want to take this presence every day into whatever lives we have left, you know, the transition, and be conscious of that because we tend to push that away, not knowing that every day is grace given to us. So thank you for your pointing and your love.

Ananta

Lots of love for Boston. I felt it. Things will grow in such a way with you and Alia as well. Now it is so nice to have both of you. Give my love to all your family, everyone there. Namaste.

Seeker

Father, can you hear me? Good to see you. So much love. Thank you, thank you so much. Thank you. Love you so much. Thank you. Listen, thank you. Namaste.

Seeker

Nancy Genie. I don't know if you see me. Thank you so much for the opportunity to sit with you in Rishikesh. It was mind-blowing. And thank you for arranging this Zoom meeting at a time when so many of us from all over the world can attend. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Ananta

Very nice having you with us. And I noticed you said something, you were trying to come with in all this... you were not able to come. That's okay. That's in here now. That is what I'm happy to say because I always felt and I was told that Zoom can take only 50 people and we have some 70.

Seeker

Hi, Father. Can you hear me, Father? Yes, I can hear you. Hi, Father. Nothing to say, just Pranam at your holy feet. Guru Krupa Kevalam. And thanks for everything. Nothing to say but this Pranam, Father. Thank you so much.

Seeker

I just want to say I'm just so grateful with all, you know, everybody's been sending me so much love. And for you, Father, I don't think I can say anything much, just I love you so much and everyone in this Sangha. Thank you. Yeah, and it's like, you know, Father, it's like all the pointings, I mean, just not coming up or down or here or there, they just suddenly like exploding in my heart. It's just like you say, 'Okay, don't believe this.' That's what he says. I don't know what you're doing, but thank you for whatever. It seems to be working really well. Love you, Father.

Ananta

Good. 100 Feet Road not moving much? Just going to restaurants because we need to eat something.

Seeker

Yeah, thank you so much. I love you so much. And so many lives who left the house... haven't left the house. Ah, you haven't left the house in a week? Hey, listen, I knew you for me usually just working back and... Getti Ma, she's also at home. Oh wow, that's great. Okay, enjoy. Thank you.

Seeker

Hello, Father. Chinmay here. Thank you very much for arranging this meeting, Father. And even though there has been a long pause, you know, from Satsangs, and I also couldn't make it to Rishikesh this time, but still I always feel your presence is always there and your grace is ever-present, Father. Thank you so much. Thank you.

I haven't left the house in a week. Hey, listen, I knew you for me usually just working back and Getti Ma, she's also at home. Oh wow, that's great. Okay, enjoy. Thank you. We wish you well.

Seeker

Hello, Father. Chinmay here. Thank you very much for arranging this meeting, Father. And even though there has been a long pause, you know, from satsangs, and I also couldn't make it to Rishikesh this time, but still I always feel your presence is always there and your grace is ever-present, Father. Thank you so much.

Ananta

Thank you. I don't know if you need something better than symbol. Absolutely. Thank you so much. And you also let us know in case you need anything.

Seeker

Namaste, beloved. First, I would like to thank you because you said a prayer for Hans, and I was so wishing all the best and to be happy as soon as possible for Hans. And let us pray, all of us, and also for the whole world as Guruji invited us for this prayer. Thank you, beloved. I am presently in Ramanashram and I believe very blessed because maybe I am not so very informed, but I see very few changes here. There are some kind of changes, but Bhagavan arranged in such a way that the whole process is going on even now. So it's like we are having our time here like nothing happened, and this is really we are out of everything. This is like full grace. And thank you for the possibility to join in this Zoom and for organizing this because I feel that everybody needs kind of to hear what sometimes we feel, but to hear from your mouth, it's like we are showing that what is happening is also full grace. But yeah, it has some kind of, how to say, also not-so-nice parts because some people are dying and even our Sangha member has got the virus. But hopefully God's will will be done. And also we pray for Hans and for the others whose destiny is to continue in this realm or another. We are to follow as it has to be. So thank you, beloved, for this opportunity and for the whole Sangha that we gathered like this. And this is really, it shows that it's really something different because so many beings in this, yourselves, are never believed. Everybody is like hungry for something, for the truth and for the love and for food for God and for ourselves. And you are imparting this. Thank you, thank you. Love you so much and bless you.

Ananta

Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Seeker

Hi, Father. It's Clay Panting. Hi, it's really nice to see you. You know, the back door is disabled. Oh yeah.

Ananta

Oh wait, I'm always with you, always working and working. We'll say something. You can always come back, Mother. Oh no, can you hear me? Yes, yes. So nice to see you finally after many, many years ago. Are you talking to me? Where's my mother? Okay, just an adulterer and they never made this happen. Yes, years ago we were in Zoom together and before that, I think it was Google Hangouts. Someday maybe I've come to Bangalore. Someone happy, so good to see you. So wonderful. Thank you so much. So much love to all the Sangha and so much love. Thank you. I'm just gonna take a break for a month and then have this satsang so everybody comes and they take a break for one, and this way I get to see everyone.

Seeker

My son is getting super bloated. Are you staying at home so long, my Father? I don't really have anything to say except thank you and I love you. Yes, I've been feeling you since I came. I've been feeling you with me. Thank you for the booze. God only knows. Yeah, I don't know, just letting it letting it unfold and yeah, thank you.

Seeker

Hello, Father. Do you hear me? Hello, my so nice to see you and so many people from the Sangha. It makes me so happy, really. So much enjoy. Thank you, thank you so much. Sorry, the daughter also with you together? His daughter, she's with her mama and but we are all good. Everything is nice, everything is good. Yes, hello in Lucknow. No, yeah, in Lucknow we arrived today. Nice, nice. Bapuji's place. It's now currently, yeah, we will stay here now for some time. The internet is very bad so we like hearing. Love you.

Ananta

Okay, it looks like we are done, are we? I'm very, I was astonished in Bangalore by going on a beautiful meansa it, so I feel like it's so great for today as well. I love you so much. Of course, I'm hoping to you and maybe whether it's me again. She are from Australia, Lutea Tigana. She is whenever she's in a hospital and has nearly no internet and it's not very for her, just everything. Aha, when we're not women who cheer, we're in Gold Coast, okay. And she came from Rishikesh and straight into the hospital and she doesn't know what ready, it's not easy. So I just here to a good.

We're so grateful to be with you all, Father. I keep losing you. Read, don't do any better you, huh? Okay, this is good man. Wonderful, wonderful to see you like this. I'm still in zero now. I can't hear you now. See, it's good. Hungry, hungry out rear leg spear gets it. That's fine. This you guys love. One else wants account number the Riddler is now.

Seeker

Hello, Father. Hanuman here. Just nothing, nothing to say when you say thank you. I hope everything is well with you and the family here.

Ananta

Yes, Father, everything is what you hear. Hello. So guys, thank you so much. Glad I'm going to be today with the same way. It's so beautiful. Even interestingly, it's fine, it's a beautiful time. It's so much inside time. The world is gone farming in a lot of ways, hopefully better than that. Thank you so much monthly on to all the phone comes only. It's always very beautiful and you know here in Bundy, I know that usually you have to do some work and then come back and things kind of thing, but it's a sweet time in your hero. I always enjoyed it very much. I mean, it's so beautiful.

Seeker

Hello, Father dear. Just a quick thank you and I love you and sending out my prayers to everybody to wish that this time is put to the best use possible and that it does, it serves everybody in the way that it is needed, like this one included. But just especially want to say I love you, Father. Thank you for doing this today. It was really needed here very much and very appreciated. I'm so grateful and thank you Sangha for being there in your spirit and your constant devotion and dedication to the truth. I love you all. I do so, so much. There's never, never any distance between us and fully love to your daughter and the rest of her families as well.

Ananta

Thank you. We are three here now: my daughter, my mother, and I. It's quite a dynamic, yes. And it's a really great meaning. Prayer requests in the chat that have come to me privately and I'm going through them one by one and sending all the prayers in my heart. Many were affected by this disease and then many were affected by a lot of fear around this disease as well. And meaning Guruji's grace will bless all of them and bring them all to fulfilling kissing he practices with me. It's not so much Joris means great story. Very beautiful children I hear in Bangalore and that's a request to meet them, but have been advised waste only that I'm not supposed to. Also my son came back from America on the 15th and even a guys that he and his family, all of us are supposed to not be in terror for a few days after his arrival. But I'm meeting all of my heart whaling between a fool that is the place of the true making any because it is gauge or than the lot of sweetness in the Leela of meeting in person that we were true. It doesn't look like that is what grace has any plans. Please accept my apology for not being able to spend time with you mean that me and but know that I'm completely with you in my heart. Thank you all so much for being in this beautiful setting today. All my life, all my prayers, online listening specially to Hans and all those perfect afflicted by this virus. May the Master grace in all to peace very soon. Mooji Rishi Maha Ki Jai. Guru Sri Anantajiki Jai. Mooji Rishi.