Where Are You Looking and Hearing From? - 30th Oct 2018
Saar (Essence)
Ananta guides seekers to abandon conceptual frameworks like past, future, inside, and outside to reveal the wordless truth. He emphasizes that the mind cannot represent reality and that life unfolds naturally through the supreme intelligence of consciousness.
The truth that we can conceptualize is not the truth.
You have never met the past, the future, the inside, or the outside.
The mind is like a teller of stories; its dependency is a fallacy.
contemplative
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Guru Kripa Kevalam. Welcome everyone to satsang today. Satguru Sri Mooji Baba ki jai. Like a spaceship is coming, I felt like I had arrived yesterday. I don't think my dearest—and that means you—sometimes you get the sense that 'I parked it so that there's no way I can lose this now. Acceptance is so clear.' And then we wake up the next day and it could be like, 'No, that feeling is gone.' And every bit that is true. Okay, I'll give you multiple choice options today. You have to forget about two things, and here you fall out and I'll go get you to forget about two things. Okay, but there's these two sets.
So the first set is: I usually forget about... I didn't forget about past and future. Everything that concerns you about past and future, forget about. That is the first set. If you say, 'No, no, I can't do that, that is too much,' then I mean forget about the other set, which is inside and outside. Everything that is inside, everything that is outside. What can you forget about? I got a future and inside. You can forget about all four of those. If you forget about any of the two, then you've forgotten all four. No, take one of the four. Let's start with that. Everything that happened outside or everything that happened inside. Let's start with them: the so-called inside and outside. Okay, that is, we forget that. I'm not a currency, you say. Fun, it is not yet forget you this instrument here.
Time was peace unless it is difficult to draw strong emotion. Strong emotion, okay. You don't talk that, okay. Everything that appears on the outside, don't be concerned about that. This emotion that seems to happen inside, okay. If there are four legs to this table, one of them so I can pull you in. Yeah, my... we have never met any of these four. You never met the past, never met the future, they've never met outside, and you never met inside. And so why so much concern about it? What will you attach to now?
The truth is that there is no truth. He said, he said, 'The truth is that there is no truth.' And what is that then? Is that the key? Even that is not the truth because if they shall be saying it is not the truth, the truth that we can fathom through our mind, the truth that we can conceptualize, this is not the truth. And then what remains is that which is beyond these boundaries of true and false, beyond these boundaries of being and not-being, perceiving and not perceiving. It's not only here, apparent, clear. Afraid of people looking for the truth. Where are you looking for the truth? What is the source of our truth? Even when we say, 'This is my truth,' what is the source of this? Where does it come from? It's already here.
Usually find that we do not refer to this which is not really here as our truth. We refer to some interpretation in my judgment or some idea. Okay, this is what it is. When you come to satsang, when you are able to make that shift away from the narrator words, the narratives suggest what is. Were people referring to our third eye wanting to find truth in that source? That is what should snowy. The content doesn't have to change really, as long as we feel that we will find this truth in the mind and it keeps referring to that, those conclusions of the mind as it works. Then it can still seem to be changing, suffering, limitation, separation. For a while it can feel a bit strange to have this voice that has lied on for a fair bit of time actually is not really representing what is. In fact, it has no way to truly represent anything at all.
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How many of you feel fairly clear about this, that our mind cannot represent anything truly? Fairly certain? So at least that certainty is there. So then the rest is easy. It's just like an allegiance to an old fan who's a teller of stories. And yet we, because we have heard the stories for so long, it can feel like, you know, it takes some time to get over those stories. If you feel in your heart that you have seen through this, these two reasons seem that they are not true representations of reality, and the talking away of these stories is not difficult. But if you still feel that, 'Okay, okay, okay, but for some stuff it cannot really represent you part or this or that,' this is true. If then we answered duality and good, because the fear is, 'What if I don't refer it to as the clothes for running my life in my life all done? I work on tackle.' Hey, but experiment with this and you see that just as these movements happen energetically, the mind happens on fluids. The same way the movements of the body will happen. Whatever needs to unfold for the running of this life is unfolding naturally anyway.
So this so-called dependency of thought and action itself is a fallacy. Maybe the source of thought is same consciousness, the source of action is same consciousness. So why would consciousness have to rely on something that it itself creates to do the other aspect of its existence? It is not like this. I am not saying that the mind should come to a standstill or a storm. If it happens, it's fine. But even if it is there, it doesn't matter. Just like if the body is sitting in a completely unique moisture, completely still, or it is moving about, really doesn't matter to your reality. Whether the appearance is moving or the screen doesn't matter to that which is there, moving, the unchanging.
So something better I can give you in soul. We talked about past and future, we talked about inside and outside. I can also give you another pair which is available: cause and effect. This, therefore that. Don't be concerned with any cause and effect because if it's about leading to... even these things we hear in satsang, if they did sound like they are about leading to, they're very provisional. If you have this idea that 'If I just do this, then that will happen,' forget about it. As long as you continue to feel that your truth is a happening, you will be stuck in time, will be stuck in causation, and which is also special thing. Exactly what do you want me to read what you're saying and try to understand?
Yes, just realize that you think you talk about things to say language is fundamental to an idea of separation. Her idea of false representation or the idea that the mind has some true meaning about what is, is impossible without language. And the thing about language is that it's completely intelligent, like every concept within it contains the seed of every other concept here. So when we want to play around and say, 'Okay, would this one, but you can have you know everything else,' but these are keepers, these are convenient, easy. They know what happens is that it contains everything else. Is there a concept which is completely independent of the other concept? It all depends on each other. All this language is dependent on all other language. So the whole dictionary is nothing but circular loops. Never learn anything new, we just learn other words, and those words mean some other words, and those words mean some other words, and ultimately you refer back to the original word itself. So there's nothing new to be found there. It's a circular loop.
But we feel like to collect these words, to collect these motions, these interpretations, we are actually learning something or understanding something about what is, what the isness. But this isness is independent of any interpretation. Even its primal toys—they love peace, joy, times, peace, attention—seemingly have using some terminology, but totally these seemingly primal toys of what is: light, sound, any of these are not captured within any concept. The famous example of the one who has never experienced love and you'd like to explain it: what words can specify that, you know? So if these products' business, just to use some time itself, are not definable living concepts, then how can that which is be beyond these definable? And in fact, can we go so far as to say nothing that appears even phenomenally we can conclude anything which we think is true about that?
You might say, like I was saying yesterday, you might say, 'Apple is green.' Do we really know this? Or 'The sound is this.' Do we really know that? You don't know. And we've looked at many of these illusions and fallacies. So we cannot inform even anything in the phenomenal appearance using concepts. Then how can we conclude that which is beyond coming and going, beyond appearances? And all our concepts are about something that we have never met. You never met past, you never met future, you've never met inside or outside.
Nice you think that they've never actually met the boundary. What is that separating line between past and future? We have a concept of it. We might say 'now.' Have you met this now? Does anyone scheme this now? Say me for inside and outside. You might say 'body,' but is that inside of the body what you're referring to? Inside of the body is what any surgeon will tell you. Look, you are not talking about that. So we've never met even this seeming separating line. So they are just ideas, they're just notions. And you as an entity or the meaning is like the super notion visualized on all of these motions. So this means if it could not allow the notion of time, it had no words, it has no depth. So then what would this will be? If it did not rely on the notion of space, what would you say about yourself? You won't even be able to say where you are actually.
Are you looking at this waveform? They're looking at appearances from... they're ready hearing the sound of the traffic, the sound of these words. What is that space? I don't use that they may be inside back. It doesn't do it justice. Is it say inside and it's over? Hey mate, is that inside finished? Explorers, what is this? The body is sitting here presumably. Where are you sitting? Are you sitting lost handy like I don't settle for labor light or harmless? Don't settle for any answers. This clue: have you ever met something that is formless? How did you meet it? And don't even settle for any ultimate something labels like 'I am the Self, I am Awareness, I am Absolute, I am Brahman.' Who is hearing the hearing? Who is seeing the seeing or pressing all perception?
So any of these questions are, you know, it's just where you go for the answer which seems to make the difference. You go to repeal it for dental treatment, you go to your bubble switch seats your clothes. In the same way, if you go to the mind expecting a valid version of reality, a valid answer to the question 'Who am I?' or 'What is this?'—a valid answer at all, actually, any question—and that is as silly as these examples. But the thing is that this mind is like Indians giving you directions. Nobody will tell you they don't know. Sir Loeb is presumed to have an answer. It really says, 'I don't know.' Yes, neutral. No, we'll get there. This is where you are. Somebody envelope, 'Oh dear, where is his place?' So everything is not sending anything is all. 'Can I get to push because we don't know how much it cost?' It's like right, absolutely would expect this coming. His radar system reminder as reliable as these people are and insects by having to answer. No conclusion from the mind is applicable. Is satisfaction not applicable? Yeah. So not having any whether to be your validation certificate: freedom, no freedom, any of this from the mind, okay?
Understand what I'm telling you is it's like a sense of regret about it. Unfortunately, I have to reconcile with this mind I cannot rely on for any valid representation of reality. It can be either. Sometimes it can feel like regret, but many times I feel I believe. But I mean, you have to be concerned with this voice which is trying to tell me that I am this or that anymore. Say you please, like if you had to picture throughout your schooling days and now you just finished your convocation and you're done what your certificate, there's nothing she has on you or he has on anyone. That'll be release its certificate now. No longer matters what it is saying about you or the world or your relationships or anything. Vision is not... does not have anything to do with having meaning or meaninglessness. If the mind will now say, 'But the point is to become like that,' you think, but you over these ideas.
If you had to picture throughout your schooling days, and now you just finished your convocation and you're done with your certificate, there's nothing she has on you or he has on anyone that'll be released. Its certificate now no longer matters what it is saying about you or the world or your relationships or anything. Vision does not have anything to do with having meaning or meaninglessness. If the mind will now say, 'But the point is to become like that,' you see, but you are over these ideas of what the mind is saying. The point is you lose this idea that something has to happen before this kind of reasoning. There is a reason behind something, that there is cause and effect. You're getting over the doubts.
But I know that no 'buts' are... but how many times we heard this in satsang? 'I know, but...' Everything that comes after 'but' is just still, and yet, 'I know everything that comes after.' 'I am the student, but I'm just stuck.' Do you hear the first part of what you say? This is just my dog symptoms, in a way, but making conclusions about 'I am.' I thought, 'Oh, I don't feel like I'm so frustrated, I can't really say anything about myself anymore.' But it is this kind of thing, and everything is very big, big things. Clean everything. Not true, not true. That's not so boring. So here, then, you get over that.
So all these various phases of the skinning, unburdening, easy. But now that I have seen this, here is what I must do. What did you see exactly? They give a lot, an object in time and space. So the one that must move is what? All those symptoms, and I will not think that the mountain Lord series can it... it took you anything that mean only you will remain completely non-resisting and open as these things laugh back home. However, whatever way this life has to unfold and has been unfolding will continue to unfold in the light of the same one.
Many times, if you like asking all of you, 'Are you this same arms? You really believe it?' To which, like, 'Are you the same?' But this is like the same. They give us here in seeing this ball moving and the words are spilling out on his legs, on actual ties. You have to these words attachment. You have to these words and flute and 'I am' are this question many times. Answer has been, and this looking at this stuff position and as it is coming out, I was starting to get attached when you ask this question to take a position about what spilled out of this mouth. He is planning for this came on, come here now. I have to... this is the stand of cake and our will to live up to it. So this like fear of contradicting ourselves because you seemed insane. It might never ever to you came out of your mouth. How many times will happen in this is my stand-in reaction? Where did that come from? But very quickly, this is what I do.
Like you asked question, report, then take some, you know, think that as it comes out, then you feel like now I have to stand up for this. Maybe looks too strange when we say it makes... when we say what is left on this trick. If you like hold on, like it is not just the word this below to the mouth, it's like this with our arms. It could come and say, 'I feel good,' I wonder, or do not like that. 'I strongly feel that this is how.' How strong is it? It just started like one limited once. I kept it cool as irony of, you know, I get report sometimes use that even though being I had an argument yesterday, but within a minute I was laughing. It would... I was a fifth father.
You ask, there is a lot being contemplated about this. I guess I could say it's about consciousness is intelligence and using the mind for individuals and functioning. All the equivalent positions and anything not open is being accepted, but to deny we are one with intelligence and available in life is not being taken as a position but is true here from sharing this. I mean consciousness as in conditions is functioning through which expression, but as we are really looking at everything that we control to be true, I am bringing this and I'm very happy to hear that this contemplation is on.
This concentration is very good. So then we see that we don't know what expression is, what functioning is, what true is, even what consciousness is. Actually, we don't know. As a finder, there's a reason to pull. Of course, it's quite beautiful to see it is just the one consciousness which is functioning through all expressions. But as you're pushing through the one reads of all concepts and looking at them in the light of to see him, let all these statements also ultimately are just provisional. All distinctions, like to see he said, I'm not sure a little of my heart, but he said the ultimate truth is very simple: just make no distinction.
Now the thing is that even in a statement like that, there are so many distinctions like 'ultimate truths.' But as a pointer, it is putting... so what I'm saying is that the ultimate truth is not contained in that statement. In the end, it is a... it seems like it is a useful pointer for the time being. The same being all especially including what is being shared in satsang at best, after which the truths of provisional pointers to bring us to that which is beyond even to statement. And Brahman, the cells like Marathi, in the end even 'I am' is not, although it is only truth which I can speak. All I have to say that ultimately even accurate and true. So if this 'I am' in consciousness itself, it is ultimately all true, which means actually it is untrue right now. Then we come to this wordless spirituality, wordless if you can call it space, where the distinction of true and untrue is not gaining. Beautiful, the contemplation.
The little trick here has been that for the mind, the mind thoughts are never true, but consciousness itself is intelligence and can be relied upon to fear the clown sees. He brings is that 'I'll become stupid by believing that I know nothing' was exposing slash surrendered in hand. Yes, it is a trick. Like you say, just the mind will say, 'But I just am stupid to not know anything,' because we feel that our conceptual knowing has made us intelligent. And then we feel that, okay, actually not seeing the mind doesn't know anything, but the true source of intelligence is consciousness itself, you see? And you see that. So this trick is played by the mind itself to know that 'I know nothing' makes us stupid or silly. But actually, I'm not even saying that, you know, we come to a point where we don't even know that we know nothing. Like no conclusion is valid anymore, including the conclusion that I know nothing. So 'I know something' and 'I know nothing' words are divested of their meaning.
And as reassurance, of course, we can say that don't worry, your life continues to run in this supreme intelligence of consciousness. But that claim also whose clothes home in start seaming insipidity. I know that for a while it feels like we need to reassure ourselves in this way, but when I say insipid, it's more like the claim that 'I have a mouth' is not speaking that I have a mouth. It doesn't really have to be clean. This is all very good to look at, to expose, to inquire into.
I am so full, I am so complete. This world of senses tries to sell me the money in my own pockets. I'm against none of it. I can only dream this. A day of clinging makes me long for sleep; a life of clinging makes me long for freedom. These fears are just shadows cast by the flame of my own simplicity. Its attention turned examining itself, what remains? I am so full, I am so complete. This world of senses tries to sell me the money in my own pockets. I'm against none of it. I can only dream the time. A day of clinging makes me long for sleep; a life of clinging makes me long for freedom. These fears are just shadows cast by the flame of my own simplicity. Its attention to examining itself, what remains? Thank you so much for being in satsang today and pollution.