What Is All the Struggling For? - 3rd September 2018
Saar (Essence)
Ananta challenges the tendency to rely on mental 'photocopies'—memories and concepts—of the truth. He invites seekers to abandon conceptual completion and rest in the wordless, naturally present reality of Being that exists prior to all definitions.
The truth does not need a photocopy; it must be always here now.
The best conversation we can have is without words.
You are subtler than the subtleness of space; the self is untouched by any content.
provocative
Transcript
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Guru provocative must everyone, anyone will come to satsang today. Guru Sri Mooji Baba ki jai.
You the other day were speaking about the photocopy version. So first of all, I'm working on more data for the photocopy version. And we fool ourselves with that. But as spirit, I learned that by fooling yourself... I mean, that is... we are testing the earth. I mean, when you're sitting, you're enjoying. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know, I can't define it now. And nothing can be defined, but I feel better. I'm enjoying the beauty of being, and then I can see also, and I can watch my being being there, being tasted. Bliss is not distant. I mean, everything is something is seen, everything is noticed, seeing. So are we... I'm not fooling myself, but it is not... but that is sound. Is that the not-self? Something is awareing there. I'm enjoying. I mean, we were doing that, something knowing that enjoyment. Even that knowing is not truth, is not the truth, it's not the ultimate truth. So okay, so from there, that understanding... and you redeemed us and I went nuts and hanging. I said I was hanging, and but I was hanging it, I was nuts. I said because you... nothing, no, not it, no, that's not it, no, that's not it. Because you know, because you know that we are believing in a photocopy who is she, not a SAP. Can you answer that?
So often speaking of the photocopy version, so what is it? It is a micro version of what is, and it usually lives on past some impressions from the past or prediction into the future, I suppose we do. So yeah, and it's complete exactly what is business now. I don't want to do anything with it. It's usually through experience, common experience, all that is on using objects. Whatever you see is an object. So what usually happens is even in spiritual experiences, the tendency to move on to it, you can keep it or they never receive it. You can take only so getting that which we can hold on to it, either the concept 'this is it' or always like a visual of the total numbering of it. That is the photocopier. But the truth does not meet this. The truth, if it is true, must be always here now. The two factors are to prevent you any experience from the past, meaning duplication from the past, and know that you went back to the photocopy version in your photo album instead of the reality which is so fashionable now. If you had a river, fresh water flowing in front of you, will you have to refer to the water from again on me? So when we go back to that, actually most of the time you let me see that through that, that viveka creates a sense of distance about what I'm pointing to. It's much more primary, just yeah. Rather I came to graduate them to make a picture of it or to make a confusion out of these attempts. Arthur has to make these photocopies and that is what is making further confusion for the robot that is looking for an infusion of the power. But the truth will be on such a confusion.
Okay, I had referred to the past because you the other day in the past you said, you know, we are using a photocopy version. But now when you say okay, so I have to... I'm trying to figure out what is the photocopy version which you explained now. Memory. It is memory, experience being tasted, everything. Yeah, whatever all those are, all those objects and everything that you feel, sensation, notions, everything is an object. So it's not you, it's not a real you. But now okay, now here now, you know, here, here now.
Here now. It's good to have it here and now. Can anything really sit? Actually, the way I presented that question, the answer was inbuilt in that. So let me ask again: here and now, what can be said? Is it good? Is there any separation? No expectation. Did you get something? The concept of getting, non-living is now something. It's time to make a confusion. Something off us is noticed, you see. So what would that something be like? To be a special feeling? It could be a little confusion, bliss. But it's good to... but I know that I'm saying that even will be here now. Is this what is the nothing? Endures everything. Don't want it. Just this condition that there must be something, and that something could be bliss, is no other quality. The mind is saying it's possible to let it go. It's yes, but you can be left. You can rule out this conclusion in a wheel because there's a 3D apply early. Can it be broken? Can it be split? Can it be half? Can I make pieces out of it? So without this idea, what is it? Because what you're recognizing, the thought, the distractions are very powerful, are meaningless. Only then you make yourself back into a limited entity in this motion of life. What is here? Let's leave that conclusion because it's neither simple nor difficult. Is it because anything you believe about it, you will yourself later question yourself? Is it because you believe it's real until now? You will go back home later and say it's simple in front of Ananta, or look at it now, also difficult. So whatever you do, even without the idea of what it is, because it will be on these dualities, simple and basically yeah. We just don't have to make a conversation. We don't have to let the best part of all the time, the best population we can have is without words. This doesn't mean you can't speak. These guys are here, or even that you would make something out of yourself. You want to make a body-mind, our clothes Armenia, allow me to do all the time since the little jealousy feelable and cures or anything like that. And that means modular, you don't have to wait for the second the King. They are no good because it's an unusual position you have to hold on to this with an experience or escape frantic. That is protocol in the sense that whatever conclusion we might have, because it is still the doubting Thomas which will come and say, 'Actually practice before would have it.' It still makes a 'me' out of you and says, 'I go paradigm, whatever I have this before.' But does it belong to any new power right now? Can you hold it, keep it in any way as before? So not only have you had it before, you have only believed before. Either speaking to yourself as move around targeted, or we are speaking about it as it itself. Having it, leaving, does not apply to reality at all either way. Maybe the 20-year-old who comes to satsang sits, there's nothing else I do, you know. What did you forgive me to stay? But is there effort to become a fertilizer, to become the catalyst? Is seething invitation, keep at it, keep at it to me to enjoy this. This is doing it for something you change it to try to say this not yourself, wanting to try to sit as yourself. Try to sit as your bouncing like don't he is in the China, not even for the Pirates artists, and we try to do it in your kind come. I got effortlessly for that. So the effort is going for work. So this any idea that something will get me something for this, there for that, but you are prior to that. The invitation is not so that you can become the smell. The invitation registers directly. My board is naturally present. None of the questions in an invitation are efforts. The harder it is some to taking, is it like this? You can be Dalian, you see these panels and very simple. So none of it is meant to be like heavy lifting, and none of it is meant to produce a certain outcome that can be just from our mind. It is meant to show you what is actually here. It's meant to show you actually here anywhere that I clippings is there. Only thing you can do is write a long bind to the motion of limitation right now. To buy things that I was saying some of the other do, if it feels like it is inferred, do not pick up from the... if you just under do flight, just landed, you will said you told go back, your bags are in bag number three. You go to bag number three and you written very well to come and then make it comes, you would have to make the effort to pick it up. Our second you will my dear, but actually you didn't have any check-in values, is it so? To not pick up is effort, or to pick up is effort? But if it seems like our habit to become automatically to walk to the conveyor belt and pick up a blue-colored man, then to this seemingly deep not go with that can seem initially like it is ever a good traffic is flowing. If you got used to crossing the street, then it will seem like in not crossing they making a network. Actually is the little more affluent. The Self is next loop hasn't even much more around. It's exactly yes, but you don't have to take a new prison. Is it like okay, Zen is doing something, but morning to evening our plan to become the Self? But naturally the Self we are you read morning to evening. 'I'm not going to do anything'—that is also prison as long as the 'I' is defined as a body-mind entity. It is the prison where the activities happening through it or not is like they're here. Where are you now? Well, let me quickly speak then. What is the relationship of this body sitting there to you? You say very nice and nowhere because I'm empty of all these qualities of time and space. Now the next question is: what relationship is that particular body to you? So how come the activities of this particular body again you call your activities? This body is sitting on the floor. What are you doing? No women do that. Then what are you if you never been the body or its activity? Now when I party this drama did Amanda here was to be reading and we can this monk he was sitting and like meditating lacy is so another senior monk comes. He says to this one, 'What do you do here?' 'I'm trying to become the Buddha, trying to become the Ruben.' So the senior monk, he picks up a brick and starts polishing. 'Do you know what are you doing?' 'The polishing who breaks it in the kamidana.' So then the junior monk cut it. But it is not about the activity of the body or what you're doing. It is just to come the simple recognition of the photometer, your true Self, which is just naturally here as this happening. Of course, the body can take many poses and postures, but is never about that can go wrong. The Self is itself, the truth is the truth. Now what can I do that can make the truth go away from me? Okay, anybody do so that the truth is gone? But even when you believe that it can mean just to believe, isn't it? Never changes anything in reality. If you were to believe that you're the green frog, would you become that? Would you have the power to be? So even when you add this layer of belief on top, does it fundamentally change the reality of popular? So then what is to kiss me to come to what you are? Relaxed. It's a good way to put it, but the quickest we cannot be to do a post-mortem on B before. Last night I started getting these to all parts and I believe them because there's not as much happiness. It's always just so are photocopies, are photographs, are post-mortem users. They are not ultimately help. This is so variable and I actually feel the master I do we think in videos like a nice sipping. It's just one see. Now what is the value of all these go to them? So photocopy is being done. You have to say you have to fresh water they were flowing in front of you in that you've already unit. But we have a small sip class, small class, we can be in some fresh water from three years ago. Everything is here now. Everything is here. Nothing has been taken away from the truth now. Why you have to refer to something or does that make you... but then I was just... it make you running with this movie to make sure the one who has a limited existence because then it makes you only that one. Old are you here now on that I'm saying this process was there. The process had to do everything with this new line too. Even in a dream you are memory of who people are around you for that will be the first moment of the green. Have to give it any meaning because itself and then because it is a position in the mind who knows. I don't do people as that. I feel so terrible. You have these technically you'll get all this kind of thing. Never love the greatest gift is only the will go to us is actually not come. But can we start measuring mimic start think this is go.
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The process had to do everything with this new line, too. Even in a dream, you are memory of who people are around you, for that will be the first moment of the dream. You have to give it any meaning because it is a position in the mind. Who knows? I don't do people as that. I feel so terrible. You have these technically, you'll get all this kind of thing. Never love. The greatest gift is only the will go to us. It is actually not come, but can we start measuring? We start thinking, 'This is good, this should come, this should not.' That's Maya. If you are only all there is, will you be keeping track of what should come and what should not? Counting, 'This is good, this is bad.' What do you have to be? If you have to be bothered by the content of what is coming, or if you have to... some of these are like your favorite dummies: bliss, joy. I'm scared of using the word bliss, meant or joining, that your kid doing. A little child means it does not know a finger loose. There's more these terms, yet always begin to love it. Maybe it's a premium, yeah. But and who is there? Relief is there, painless where happiness is there, and joy is there. All of these come, but it is not sitting and living today a lot, two milligrams or two believe it's this. That's what your mind is doing mostly. How much happiness? And I became a lot of unhappiness. Find it today. I was just grateful today. I was briefed. We use these dollars to make our lower cover and then package viewport cards in a way. We really resist life. You make conclusions about what should be emotion. If you wouldn't live like a plant, then would you get to know something? I know my life is being full of effect city. Something is good. All that it ever has been, has been, but it is now. You have to any thought of, 'I refuse it,' says because we wouldn't on a spiritual journey for so long. Can this be like, 'Do something this time'? Hey, this one, by the way, something is cooking. And say no. You can say, you might be saying now, as long as you don't make a reference point about yourself, you cannot be touched. If you are just part of all this out, it might say hi as this body-mind and enjoying the truth. And now to come. But if you're enjoying it as more spacious than spheres, 19 also common speech. The space is not why anything. So you are the audience space. Is it put here? Considered ourselves to be something which is so objectified, we feel like we can be shaken by this moon. But you bless, you are subtler than the subtleness of space. So what has to come to the space? And this one to complain is untouched. But if you hold on to joy, if you hold on to something that we should, 'This should be there,' there in the mind we use. That's why I keep saying, and it really irritates many of you when I say truthfully saying, because they make a district for its sake that nothing can be used appropriately. This can go, although can go. Attachment for those are not in mastering everything converts cannot. If it ever becomes evolving new abilities, then the mind will use that to push our. So there's no guarantee of joy. This is very good because to me you would say it's okay, for this is very name strong. Because any time we might feel like we're seeking, totally seeking God or something like that, but if there's a lot of codes, I think in a wheel, how many are left? If I'm near lips seeking boots or boots a missing yet, but I don't want to become like them, so do something else. And you think that if you're not attached to any of the perks, then the mind cannot go get them. Mind always books are these things. It cannot bother the truth. It does not really anything about that. The benefits will join the street, the spaciousness, the timelessness. It can poke at least, but you actually beyond all of this. It has nothing, it can say nothing about you. And everything with the mind cellar is not centennial very Italy. I have to have the spiritual search for her. Look at this piece of flesh which is granule. Maybe you don't five years or at least Ln this piece of questions untitled the body. This event is really brilliant profile and it's not there, then who is going on? Who has half the first review? It does not speak the truth about you. Can we pretend as if it is? By the way, I think Odin will get bohemian up because all that it we seem to know is about this little bungalow. At best I can do on TV, we don't even more keeps it together. If one thing that you know more it was, and this is because sometimes we have a down story is only knowing this caused a bit of frustration for you now saying, 'Well you don't know it.' Thank you say, but I nobody's missed you will after don't business. The tactic is this which you'll be pointed to cannot be known in that way at all. There's a deeper moment in this and I has a waiting to say this because even this the mind can't a company which is not, which is not interests with the term itself. This is nothing. The one that is interesting the term, you cannot ever know it. The one that is the to vagueness has no face for the term, has no interest in return.
Let's see their future 10%. We asked without the mind, can a question be honest without going to the past or the future? How does one ask the question, Father?
Just like this technique to cater to any level. So what is the question fundamentally? Whatever the me and reasoning in the wheel, this instrumental reasoning like intellect to fill in what it feels is like a conceptual gap with the way you write in that field. That unquestioned raw fundamental conceptual concepts requesting other concepts to be to some sort of conceptual completion. Now that advice that's unrelated, it's because you can't leave to get some sort of concept to completion and instead will be every question you invited to and a concept of emptiness. You think usually when we ask the question you think that you'll be given that God is it that will complete a house of conscious. That missing piece of the jigsaw puzzle will make it perfect. It starts like that, but then ever the master wants to do is just shake it all up and fluidity. And for a while we don't like that. This which he liked, 'I came with a question, I want him to answer.' Like I feel like everyone a few moves come at some quite initially built right is in a bellhops a question. Some of you later they feel very good when you haven't been to actually tell you when you look at it you're like, 'Okay, the answer to the question you know where you can seem like that.' Because I don't want to give you any more pieces, any more cards, keep building more conceptual how opportunity I get shaken things up and throw them out as much as you let me go. I notice the open to letting me through. I have to look for some time is the point of I am trying to snatch it from. So what other concepts are conceptually or Lancers are conceptual and therefore into it or intellectually which is similarly the dimming total so uncertain satsang is not to for you to be able to out-compete or pansexual asking you just to show you that everything that you think your knowledge and you can have to feel you're right about also left is only positive double is only giving us early. So hand them over to camp other at least for over analyzing. Could it be that the talks has photos in the photo albums against that? But if it isn't alone as it has these experiences happen in consciousness or do the opposition and he says nothing ever happened. That's exactly what I was saying there. You cannot rely on memory. If you do a survey of all the people for inserts on today and you are not happened and you will have a different system 3ds as undeniable as everything else. So we cannot really say with something happen Vogel captain in fact which are not to be scalar there is a box or the features for that matter. What is property values has opinions right? You have to see quercetin as you come into your mother'll emptiness as areas existence. You start focusing every emotion, every every idea which we think represented the truth. You become so empty but I here let me not speak too much because that mean this becomes conceptually it comes down to the same thing. What can't you give up being right about that is that's all that we got. What are you so certain that you know that were able to define? It's concepts and now become belief. We need to do them away and all some fear will come. I know fear will come because you feel like your life is different by these concepts sticks run because you have this content it is not true. I think I shall you will ever who will what is the fear I ask you through even your holiest content? We feel like, 'Oh then what if I stop come to satsang? What if I lose not master is English?' But I didn't say anything about that. It is only because you feel that your life is driven because you hold on you certainly concept. We feel like a tuition relies on his constant which is not unto your emptiness. Come to your neck still this resistance and don't be scared to even your annual questions then ask for the future. Thank you Father. Keep shopping should have invitation surely I seek your blessing with that idea rest he work you can also be used as it closes for get over knows this people they seek the master list. I don't know what you want. It is not knowing the challenges and all that this is dependent on this nation opponents we've spoken already a little heroes way and we be constructive in some way. They don't make anything a thing when they can cannot see. Suppose I was going to be doing Cletus greatest greatest gift ever that you only looking for niceness you might not even feel it. He's not answering my prayer race. You don't know what you want to is and see what happens. Thank you. Some of them already have been sharing this simple story about trade that I think m69 them so you share the link today which had a very appealing or moreover this is a poem called the blind man and the elephant by John Godfrey in Saks it written somewhere in the eighteen hundreds. It says it will six men of English time to learning much inclined we went to see the elephant though all of them were client that each by a observation might satisfy his mind and so he's made up in Gaston disputed loud and long each and his own opinion exceeding stiff and strong who each was partly in the right and all were in the wrong they'll be written at the end like a model then so often in theological words the disputants I beam three long in utter ignorance what each other mean and fat about an elephant none of them has seen. You have to see them throwing may be attracted to this story because this is how only put perspectives are and all disputes are about is this difference in perspective. When I visit or there are you feel good right? But remember there's no physically here I mean such things that it will be so right about things have to be this fool you don't have to be this cool this is right this wrong you did literally in our heart go to our artists check what is it isn't it isn't it just a belief isn't it just an opinion just an idea and won't you before this ideal don't be attached to any value just like you know over there - - any idea because the truth is not so him Z so they're not so fancy that if an idea is a very moving if an idea comes with will come then what would the difference being between two tonic in one but in the other way it leaves away become the cold it's that what all this is about nearly all this without adding pants now observe this little bastards at these hearing believes and thought I just missed and it was only real differences in perspective and nobody truly has seen the elephant in fact the elephant cannot be seen by these eyes and yet they all by him no it is a pillow to the time it is a pie and all so much for being in photography but cool images about that um you act with essentially we did not have anything in fact everything that you know already will also be taken from you thanks.