The Gift of Being Empty... Of Being "Spiritual" Or "Ordinary" - 22nd July 2019
Saar (Essence)
Ananta points toward a state beyond the duality of 'spiritual' and 'ordinary.' He encourages remaining empty of all positions and conceptual boxes, emphasizing that true spiritual maturity is found in natural, planless presence.
Don't now place yourself in a new box of being 'ordinary'; remain empty of all such positions.
The gift is being empty of any considerations of being either spiritual or ordinary.
Let the mind circle, you chill; you are not your mind, which is just a bundle of thoughts.
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Transcript
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Okay, if they also come, yes, yes, okay. I just have to speak with you. I have no idea what to say. I just... I don't know. I just have to show up somehow and let's see what comes up. I just feel so very much unspiritual, Father. It's so very ordinary, you know, that I feel nothing somehow, like I'm wrong here in Satsang. Maybe I should not say that, but it is really... I just so very much don't care about Satsang as such. And I feel I just want to speak it out. Of course I love Satsang, but I don't care also. And I... I don't know what is going on here, but you know, I'm just so often so stupid. I behave so stupid, stupid, and I just do so many stupid things and get so often upset here these days, you know, when someone is seemingly doing really stupid things. And but I'm fine, you know, I'm just fine. And I just feel I have to, you know, I just fear something wants to be said and I have no idea what, you know. It's just this energy, it's a horror that wants to be, wants to express itself.
So, I really... I just can't say I'm enjoying this ordinariness so very much, you know, not being spiritual, not caring about Satsang, not... you know. And when I... when something is my Guru, actually my mom is actually my Guru at the moment so very much. And so, this is such a gift, this situation in which we are and which we were and are. And every day is different. You just don't know anything, you know. You face every day, it's every moment is new with her and you have to be so fresh, you know. You cannot say, 'Oh, we are doing this or that.' You just don't know anything. You have to be really fresh in every moment and this is so really... yeah, no Guru can catch up with that really. And it's so ordinary and so beautiful and I'm so grateful for everything, even for them, for just for everything. But I cannot say this, you know, when I say I'm grateful, this is different. Even the gratefulness is different than it was before. Or it is... so I have actually no words. So I just have to show up and expose all so much the stupidness here, you know. And even the stupidness makes me happy somehow. I... not me happy, it's just so much happiness that even in the biggest sadness or in pain or whatever. So yeah, I just want to say that I'm very stupid and very happy at the same time. Thank you, thank you.
So it can sound like, if you hear a report like this—and if I'm reading it wrong then Nithya can correct me—but it can sound like when we say, 'Ah, I don't care about being spiritual,' you can feel like we have taken the opposite position really. Like we make a spectrum, let's say, like it sounded like between ordinary and spiritual. But both these extremes are not there. There is no such thing as these extremes, these opposites. So to be empty of any position, any notion then either way... then when we have to communicate sometimes, then we have to use some term. Then we have to say, 'Okay, this is what is happening here, it's a very regular ordinary life.' And this is what I've said for a long time.
So this ordinariness, although it is not, you see... and your expression is showing that this what you're calling ordinariness is much better than a lot of the spiritual seriousness that many can have. But again, I'm not saying that we must now take a new position which is like... I'm anticipating, I'm saying just forget about these oppositions. Don't place yourself in any of them either way because that is truer than any position could convey. It is truer than any position could convey. So if you are more empty now of even your spiritual concepts or worldly concepts, does that make you more spiritual or less spiritual? If you empty your spiritual concept, does it make you more spiritual or less spiritual? So best to forget about it. You cannot place it in this spectrum at all.
If you were to force me, you know, put a gun to my head and say, 'Does it make you more spiritual or less?' I would say it makes you much more spiritual. If you are just being very spiritual or 'I'm so spiritual and I have to surrender and I have to inquire and I have to do this and I don't have to do that,' all of this versus you just... which one is more spiritual? So my only advice would be that don't now place yourself in a new box which is the new box of 'ordinary' because this new box of ordinary, while it's new, will seem very enjoyable, but soon the box of ordinary will start to seem very ordinary. And then... so neither.
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And you know, my feeling is that this is what she was conveying, that she just to communicate she was using the term ordinary. I don't feel like she was putting herself in that box. But many times on hearing a report like this, then you can feel like, 'Yeah, I have to stop all this stuff and stop with all this God stuff and just be ordinary' or something like that. Changing position doesn't help from this to that and that to this. All of us keep trying these various tactics, but they don't work. Something this naturally... like she's having some life events which are so naturally, she said, keeping me so much in the moment, keeping me without plan, without any tactics, without any conclusion. That what is there to, you know, say, do? What plans can you have, you see?
So life has given us this gift at this moment. The gift is not that you find a new place to be, a new position to take, but the gift of being empty of any such considerations of being either spiritual or being ordinary. A mind may struggle with hearing something like this. Then what am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to be? This way or that way? Let the mind circle. You chill. You are not your mind. The mind is just a bundle of thoughts. So what if the bundle contains contradictions? So if you are not the bundle, then if you don't have to cross this tree, nothing to bother. And if you were to quantify your existence, you see, then in terms of just these thoughts, they are a measly aspect of your perception.