Satsang Is One Big Forgetting - 2nd May 2018

Yeah, so it's a belief.

That once you identify it in just a week, then can you tell me if, I mean, belief then lasts this moment? What belief can you carry this organically? Organically, does it effortlessly? Yeah, so they all believe the scenery. Even the need to understand this is seen. Even this need to sit here and discuss this is seen. So organically, that is no belief. And if the sense of 'I' being something in this perception would be just a belief, and in this moment you cannot survive this. Or we can go really slow here. Is it anything more than a belief, going 'I'? Anything other than a belief? If that is clear, if you cannot even if declined, you cannot this moment cannot take birth and in its original working ever believe already live. Because now you will only say, 'Give me some time so I can put it together.' That putting together is putting on the mask. Yes, yes. Let me, give me a moment to get my collect on comments, like put my clothes on, robes of identity. Define, don't you know the time? Therefore identity is time. Things you are, no? So if you're seeing this already, it is magical. Then all that oil is not doing its any enemy.

So if I'm quite happy to just make a fool of myself, it just wants to go that thing. What does that mean?

Because of this student, there is some belief going into something, you know? Because I'm definitely picking up some dissatisfaction with the fact that some—and I'm seeing that dissatisfaction, so it's obviously not me. It's not understood face-to-face with the recognition that I'm not going to get this. The coming face-to-face with the recognition that I am not going to get this right now. For that, for the seeker, something terrible. But you really see that this is—we have tried this inquiry, applied somewhere, I saw whatever, but I really, yes. So if this means he is left without possessions, not getting anything, cannot—it has to grasp, it has to hold on to something, or at least be given or not hope that you will get something. So for the bit, it can sound to sound a bit cruel, but otherwise not happy. But I am helping you by not giving you any more concepts that you have to talk tomorrow. So that's exactly what I just give you some band-aid now and some time very well. But if I just give you some band-aid now, if you have to take that off tomorrow. So when you come face-to-face with this fact that there is nothing for the cat here, which came for the freedom into the world of milk on video, but really there is no cat. This is a little nothing for me to get.

Then somebody thinks you like, 'But you're my master.' This is how I suppose, isn't it?

But then if you already know how you would be held, then you don't need a master. Angela, I have no such question. So if you already have an idea of what freedom could be or should be like or what should change, then then you already know what outcome you want. But now what I'm saying is that if there is only this, and this itself is what in worldly terms you could configure the very valid business, this covariance, Absolute consciousness, some food for his term, those who start losing money because all there is, which is all there is now. If you didn't have an idea that you have to get something or that something is missing or that something is not completely resolved, doing Byron Katie and say that, 'How would I be without this motion?' And what forces we do we have this function? Okay, let's, let's play the game. Let's play the motion. Elizabeth, one of us here and there is in a way. So all of us, I'm going to say three, two, then we stop and we just like let everything come up, every thought and sensation. But if there isn't in the bridge interpretation which is giving eldan to, then we say it out loud without judgment, without anything in mobile easier than you know. Yours is like many times somebody else exposed motion be like, 'Oh, traffic on the road, on the road which we do not have to cross.' We play this game like that. And all of you who are listening online also can just pick up. So you play this. Don't believe running clunking idea whatever. If something gets picked up, something seems like it is true, it has meaning, not just a momentary thing sometimes but a couple very idea. Okay to go on, but then you see the movie about. Do you think we can look at a place of which you can play this with a cavity? Am I really giving meaning, giving relevance or value to this notion? And you can expose it. Okay, starting now. Three, two...

It's a lot. I'm crazy. I will welcome anything actually. Good stuff. The thought that something is getting stuff is stuff. So, so Adam to talk will be repeating itself, let it come and go down further. But if you find ourselves believing it over and all of them defeated, Sepideh exposing on. So many times is the thought which is coming in and it's repetitive but and that is time. Maxo, that's not about that. But if every now it comes you're buying into it, then you can say it out loud even if it sounds silly. No value. Because if you were coming here is like it's a pure thought that I'm right at the edge, right at the edge of what happened over just that little bit of understanding really salt, you know? That's the thought. This right there is mostly clear or more than to motion that business. What the heck you look like other question? I don't know. I see the question which are there before this but we'll get to that. Someone says responsible for my patients. These four kids between there is restlessness. I can't believe I am not going to get it. Just where the planning's equal support anger because my mom wants me to eat huge amounts of me. Baby voice in the head is saying that this one should not be there. The story is real. This is where I am spending my day-to-day life. I need to be Larry to often. I feel that I don't have a direction in my life, that I won't succeed in life. That's not enough to distrust and go with the flow. So you want to these thoughts or have to do something face of control over life? You can't just rush like who is kind of good now? To need to one. It's confusion at all but really believe in me. So I'm letting it go. I'm not even sure the positives if it was. Oh, this is nice. I couldn't live like more positive. I'm keeping em in the right place until I get when I'm supposed to be to feel that there is not enough love to go around and the feeling that I need to hold on to it then I experience it from another trying to catch one just to participate. Need to participate other what should I do? And design you can clarify little it is like you know this is part of the game. Thank you. We can look at life is too useless now seeing that either there is directionless but proceed and desire to vote. I cannot be seen. Is it just a fraud or is it the truth? Look at that. I would do the question. It's meaningful but I don't know anything. I don't want to. I don't know what is reality and what is 3. I don't even know whose life is this. I just don't know it myself. Whatever I expose the power will be magically solve. This does not feel like God please can redo it for me really get me there. All I have to do this is this every day for 12 hours. How much more do I have? Thank you for police we know they gone good back to truly all these opposites the process. Why am I not getting it? Been trying so hard. The police that I found real cute for the body would like to share all the spiritual so it comes from nothing. I am back to square one not knowing anything will happen ld6.

So let me start. Strong belief that I left all that I have. Unlimited supreme person who can be added or taken away from by outside influences and left positionless. What to say or not to say? I'm not completely fed up of the person here. I truly wanted up in the float and I was doing the invitation and inquiring something but we still enjoy me this personal past. That's right soon figure for the person needs more difference to the all this land is so innocent. It's describing the human condition in some ways. The speak for a moment, listen, listenness or some questions on the Camino flying. What's the point of all of this? It is so many bears. There's a half position business. It means that I'm still giving meaning to an idea for me or this 'I' as some entity. But this, this 'I' that—

Inquiring something, but we still enjoy this personal past. That's right. Soon, the figure for the person needs more difference to the all. This land is so innocent. It's describing the human condition in some ways. Let's speak for a moment. Listen, listen. There are some questions on the coming of flying. What's the point of all of this? It is so many bears. There's a half-position business. It means that I'm still giving meaning to an idea for me, or this 'I' as some entity. But this 'I' that I'm considering myself to be is still giving meaning to everything else around this body-mind. I'm saying is me. When that can become a sort of oppressive positionlessness. What's the point of this life? Why am I even here? You know, this kind of thing. But it is a misunderstood positionlessness or a half-position business to the true message of this. Crutches of this being the perspective of a 'for me' perspective, of an individual entity. The bomb existing between has been given to me. And when we come to this positionlessness or meaninglessness from the perspective of not even having this position of the 'me,' then all this applies in manners of so-called philosophers. You see, other you know, these tragic poets, any styling products come through some very good for themselves, right? But you can see that it's oppositional listlessness if we adopt a meaning in the world with the 'me' still continuing to happen.

I was reading something when you refer me to New Dogs calling. This was much after he had already written his classics and everything, and he seemed like he spent a long time after that had people existing to depression, reading and writing. And I could see that just this simple drink which seems to be holding imbalance, right? There's no point. So everything else, the pointlessness of perception and conceiving, and it's been applied to everything but one body-mind which is following me. If that was also seen to be in the sense here, if you see, consider yourself to be a body-mind and you keep hearing about position, all this world is coming and going. Hope you like opera is formally to the body-mind idea. That 'me' can feel like, 'I believe I'm now in this world which is constantly unsteady and going towards death, and it's completely meaningless, so there is no point being this person anyway, this body.' This kind of this so-brave dog, the oppositional insolence or the meaninglessness of what our senses are bringing to us, but we've still not dropped the idea that I am a limited entity or I am an object in this world. Now, from the true perspective of the seeing itself, what lamentation?

Where the 'me' that exists is the one which is deciding, is there anything it is not? How is it we take some perception and that is me, and some other perception which is not? Why make this distinction? What is the benefit of this? What is the benefit of the ego? The same thing. Ego is just a belief that I am a separate individual. Believe in separation of the reason the majority as what is called include. Does it have any benefits? You won't see in the movie, yes. What you see right now is coming to see it is clearly. Look at all this body sensation. All of this is discontinued just like all the other sensations are. You don't want you to stop yourself at just being this body. In actuality, all of this is contained within you. It is all perception within you. Do you have the experience of just this body, also having these words, also seeing this body? It is just one centrality of one perspective we make with the mind. You live and set, but you must be contained in this. What is the proof of this separate one? But even otherwise, suppose you haven't heard what I said. What is the proof of the separate one? We know Dr. Song, the separate from living inside the body didn't stop. I found the person. Nobody can tell me who the liver is, who the sufferer is, the experiencer is. Just never found. But there is no truth for this separation.

But all of this perception and to see that I have introduced perception is all that you were sleep. So everything that you're seeing is pointing to your reality. You will be the world of perception. Subtitles are all master movie is fine. Just be subtitles from the mind. So both at the movie and something, the trickster in unpardonably itself. Will the trickster making all these subtitles? You are this one which should happen to do. Your life should be like this. Posture should be like this. Body should be like this. Bank representatives will work to make this all. Everything is going along perfect forgiveness subtitles. This is wrong. This can't be happening to me. Having navigated the body solution is always easy and thank you, thank you. Weren't even naturally no subtitles of other one we thought. No, that is you back yourself talking about you there talking. Then you realize what you are. See what you are. That is me. Look at the movie and see. Now subtitle is applied to the other key then for the value then the supplier will consume like subtitle on it. Come everything else. This one usually forcepts and a busy week. The usual suspects are a seeker one, haven't gotten into language, or it is most into the most potent one in the relationship. And this happened even if some some in the movie this one is the sayings of but many times you're not hearing this one. So you hear in the subtitle, 'Look at that, am I misunderstanding what that is?' But the isness of that is not the matter, isn't it? Yeah. So I'm not like that business of that. I'm not deny, completely accepting, only saying it is no misunderstanding of what that is because the report is that I am just this. There is a limited one here which has a limited perspective and there is another one there which has their own perspective and there are many, many, many. But that is not our experience. Have you ever experienced anybody else in aya? Avenue conclusively say when you certain but there's another body here around your body and you're saying purely on the basis of existing need now look and influence you see it is undeniable that I exist now for this existent show me the boundary just check for yourself what is the power anymore this existence there now laundry so how can I communicate them now since our really perceiving the body you know me body in here anytime that'll happen do first in the morning that you look in your eyes and for a minute this body's here do you have any concept of all will woken up no what what are you that's when I worked in my hello hello sings forget about I am have you all seen a certain way about 13 sitting in front of someone and this question of security system so we woke up this morning I woke up this I like this I see you are insane forget about it forget about line now if you start thinking about it I'm saying okay good even to forget I have to do something really primal about that instruction so that that I will sometimes self-doubts are entertain as lying between right and wrong there is taken away sorry but I have to the equations are here I still feel right there sitting in that chair diagonally opposite you same qualifier has been intensely continuing even though are physically there thank you so much love it the next few days I'll just keep saying please don't touch the I woke up so if I say woke up this morning concealed I would have no idea was there it sleeps to the high that has no idea I have no idea.

Let me say something and see if you can relate to them. Some dense necessary, it could be emotional, but I mean perception which seems like it's very heavy. Yes. Now it seems like what the mind tries to do is quickly in your perspective to this point where you can feel like what you are just completely overwhelmed or completely the state since its firmly continued. If I did not believe, then you will see that this denseness, why the hololens it might see, it's contained in this. It has yes, but when you validate this with your looking and tell me the eyes of this denseness with regards to the space. So now this is good. Wow, I think should have good instance and attention doesn't want it. It is this food that it is that attention which is bringing but not one thing into this picture. Yes. And this 'I' now you're saying it separately. So there's an emptiness and there's a feeling of not wanting it. Now you said that attention doesn't want it and then you say small and there's an 'I' who doesn't want. But is this 'I' in front or this 'I' know you can see the Sun can see desire. So if I was to call it a presumption for American to be really upset but that which we do not see when we actually take the existence of what we live by three is life but something is making a connection between not wanting and that which is the creator of in itself the projected life itself which is projected in deliverance then some some inference is being made that that itself doesn't want it. Now naturally if it didn't want it we would not be here because not one speck of dust, not one speck of sand or a blade of grass is game without the will of this and this is a worthy contemplation because if it is left unexplored and just believe I actually don't want it the high-back time business itself doesn't want something if it is even that consolidators you know because at least those other times when this you see little a memory to trouble a small but if there are some memories which is here that that experience and you have seen them is not true there is still because possible to predict this and see what is really true this is this is a multi-dimensional all these five shoes so the seven streets of existence so many years in between experience if we spend all our time we're looking at the content of our lives then you can feel like I am part of the content but if you really look and see what is see what is on that side of the content as sublime or terrible as it might be what was on the scene time zone that was he it's a cut so damn quietly with many of you something I said you know think while it happened it's too late okay so I'm building my VM this is what's coming up well this is what's not coming up I'm not feeling free but the point is that qualities of mind can make even think whirring to something about the content so keep looking for who see I was looking for this yeah nothing you know it's a it's you know and I would like this there's nothing to grasp at that point so I look for you you see and I find that there is nothing to drop then why are we how are we able to say I am the one that is seen because it naturality desires nothing that you can block and yeah it is clear to you that they desired yes please yes I'm just going into an iPad a point just won't work so whatever as I say this feels like the treasure has no attribute so we don't realize the value of things like that now you see that I look easy and I find that there is nothing there you and yet at the same time it is computing a tool to say it I am the one that is singing so we have only seen that I have this 'I' which is not a thing which is not good now the seeker has learned that you will find this 'I' will come to the subject mission as if it is an object in this world great that's some objective experience but actually won't you realizing is that I have this 'I' will never win see and yet I have caught it 'I' all of my life it says what I have obviously are you lying that you are see no then you see the one that is see not you're not lying that you are seeing you cannot see the one that is seen and yet you're not lying that we derive it is 'I' unlike the 'I' I have used to do this wait exactly it's very clean when you not always is talking generally most the time like the 'I' that I have used till now and I think the whole confusion that's happening is that it has no quality of 'I' that I have so far associated 'I' and also it has no no way to recognize through an event and wide it seems Indian because all that we waited will die so far he is doership desire in duality right me and I knew why none of

You're not lying that we derive it as 'I'. Unlike the 'I' I have used to do this, wait, exactly. It's very clean when you're not always talking generally. Most of the time, like the 'I' that I have used till now, and I think the whole confusion that's happening is that it has no quality of 'I' that I have so far associated with 'I'. And also, it has no way to recognize through an event. And why it seems empty is because all that we've identified with so far is doership, desire, and duality, right? Me and an 'other'. Why none of that is there? Yes, well, yes. I think that is very... it's just... I just feel stuck at that point. Almost feels like you're stuck in the point.

Maybe the one who's stuck, yeah. I see the point. I mean, it's just my deal. It's like as Krishna said, you know, it's a figure of speech to say. Instead of going on, decide to see what we understand because, to be exact, it's like... and it's almost like, obviously, the inquiry is one way, a very potent way of getting us through our second factor. There is something which is only seeing. Is 'me' caught up in the seen? But actually, what I found is that just by acknowledging quite often, it's just like, 'This is experience.' So you go from life experience plus what? In a story. So just for a moment, attention seems to bring back into life. Well, it's just experience. And then it's almost like through just acknowledging that again and again, you come to see the emptiness of the experience. It's like not through direct perception of my own quality, but it seems to expand inside. It's like a moment I often used to... life returning to see. Girl realizes the group's like... is that the yield of the seeingness itself, of the oneness itself, quality? But actually, what is seen also, although it can feel like it is qualitative, but nothing has an inherent quality of itself. It's just... it is in a way because it's the quality-less one can have a reflection in the sense that you look at a so-called object and act to meet up the inferred qualities of it.

Like I was saying that way about there being a table. So this 'tableness' of the table, but actually it is very thin, this quality to it. You want just what is perceptual quality, which also we can't distrust at these values because nobody can really say that my red is your red. Anybody... these could be calling different colors red. All are lies with me, this, yeah. So there is nobody to get concurrence on any of these qualities anyway. But I'm saying that so most of these... but even what we feel are qualities, I just meaning that we have given them this perception. By the 'tableness' of a table, of the 'catness' of a cat. And now only saying this one thing: you look upon somebody else who was saying that you see a cat, you can see myself. Simple feel, little would direct me. But how much meaning is contained in these certain character traits? Like, no. No life. Because I've heard it said a few times, but it's to say like, 'No thing.' You see a tree, don't really see it's real to me. And is it just because when you made that connection, 'tree' here, those old letters exact combs? Mike, yeah, it's the whole encyclopedia and a tree expert, you mean? Sort of the same. Obviously, it is a count.

Well, it's more like it's like a quiet good street superbug reference. Did you stay up here? It's good, actually it isn't again. So in the sense that the 'catness' that is ascribed to it, it is actually only what is, you know, what you... you just like saying there's one sheet of paper, all these different cover countries on it. What will actually there is yourself, you know? We are happy to say that, but to a point we can also say we cannot really tell what is the actuality of it. It is a big unknown. Used to say all of this is not that powerful and you know the kind of... it's exactly, exactly. It seems more like it is this, and you look at whatever construct we had mentally. Because these perceptive, all these concepts, all these constructs of time and space, for example, even it will be on concepts of cause and effect which we can easily... he's just made up using... well, even these very random saloon concepts of time and space are constructs. Sadly, supply as consciousness without motion walking as these functions of time and space. These constructs of time and space are not inherent in the perception itself.

I guess the way I was saying there, it can feel like there is space between two objects. Can we really them from that place? No perspective in the sense that the Corolla we just projected on if to take a phenomenon signals if they have to be on itself in the way that it desires and the perspective is designed over there. It might feel like that object is far and this object is me, but actually just happening on the screen of the headset. So then we confirm actually any spaciness in the space because one object seems to be here, so this will be P-shape and here. What is more absolute to people that, yes, this time, but space seem more in this... is moving images of it green. They don't be like Buddha the same in a way. Is it possible then there will be space for some time? A very stand between sleeps and here, if you clear to me that it is not, but it seems the words little neck babe. It is still, it is still, it is easy to seal it. It is just on the screen like a painting, but is still you once the... once this dimensional time comes into play, things simply change definitely, like what's happening in the space.

So the lack of spaciness is apparent when it is seen with there is no danger, there is no time. And then it seemed that relevant piece, then there's no typical time to act upon anyway, you know? It's a rapper foundational of something which is not really on a little time to actually operate on this angle. Nothing put the measure of change any of the scripts into this provisions of this final primal thing which are most unpopular in the world to look at. Like you don't think like... I think this take for granted. Don't be like me, too many people have done a thesis from what again? Children study reading what is what. I think once it'll intimate little even to a certainty, but not enough attention goes to attention. And recently will only give so much that we're objects in this world, like the skin. We're really sorry, talk more a little bit availability of both that means fields until really went to it's like... and wonder when I use that comic book example they meet some sentence because but I'm really saying is there it can feel like if you paint by a frame that the characters are moving in some committed time in this take slice of life.

Then you take the next slice of next with our attention and you can feel like that's happening in a space where it is clear that there is no spin. And it can't be like, 'Oh good, Superman goes on into the enamel ad clock in and then he heard through this framework thing.' And I tell the story, you can tell the timeliness of this Superman cap, but at the Nike change in time as well? Actually be something which this time I'll move forward or has it just been a set of images that I mean perceive and the continuity is a constant they may have put on? You can either say come on, so you will see more sensitivities, sense of self in here and so therefore what's their experience? You can see so say you have like a slideshow. So what we've got there is two modes of perception: is either system moving in it which... so that's like, 'Oh me to get better.' You can give that immunity. It is also yeah, and that's how we consume this like what? So you only is one favorite time. If I say bring the takes to train, will do this train, nobody can do it. See a new consume this set of images more than one more time look at because yeah, yeah, this, this, this is the front of me right now, yeah. It's not that order to defend holy frame.

Let's say CD frame and with this idea of time I'm saying as I visit the next frame, I'm saying something changed. It's not that I will do the name is name, but time change and then explain came with time taken unexplained okay. But so many times you can say tonight I look below it for the first time and thanks to extinct savoring what was there in that train for so long. It can be like if you were to move to the next thing, so paint by frame you can do in this life and other things to changing is about living in kind. But actually this is the content of the faces now. It's very beautiful because all these practices of being in the moment, being mindful, then it will be like as you saving the content of this more and more and more sometimes either the same seems there are any of the oxygen it is if they can serve the purpose of us leaving our positions about any of this. Clear that something to move the mystics motion with plane frames a second, second any detect. But now like if you see what these guys are doing, the playing it at like 120, you know? But suppose this really so far your life is like 300 finding all these are based on one assumption that we are in the world.

If we talk about space also, yeah, like a frame, a frame of a movie here has no space. Let me know never. But they are side of that space to be referring to as please, you know? If two characters in lieu here talking about space then you are course it is not that this body is out of this place. No, no, this which is the... yes, that is a very good metaphor. But thank you, don't think about the outside of time and space. That which is outside tap then we cannot actually use temporal motions on it. It doesn't actually fully apply like that. So we cannot apply that to attention in a way because fundamentally both being and attention are not contained in the time and space. It is the seeming more silliness of time and space with comes in the presence of being with and beings we being working in consonance with this. Yes, so that is also comparable. Don't you like some answers will come but at least this all commitments which relies so much on these notions okay, 'I am contained in time and space.' But that can get shaken out of you when you see that, 'Oh, I've just been considering myself to be an object within this realm of time and space.' But can I really control anything about this time and space? He said he said that this is moving, this is just a movie which is designed at 100 frames per second or something like that. What conclusion can we actually draw more and movie coming to that point where you can see that perceptually another thing and conceptually animal and anything that I can say. Thank you all so much for being in the company but she may be baba ki. What did we do from talking everything to writing a treatise on time and space?