Do You Depend on Distinctions for Your Existence? - 20th February 2018

Wait, huh? An itch? My itch? Oh yes. Who's the 'me' and who's the 'itch'? You see, this is the thing. I'm not saying that the itch will not appear. The sensation will still appear. But isn't it in the same space of existence? Is your itch appearing in a different space compared to where this voice is appearing? In the same space where this body is being perceived. So why do you call that sensation 'mine'? I know you're joking, but it's a good point. Why do we call that sensation 'mine' and this sensation outside of this—this voice, another's voice—how do you hear it? It is also in the same space. One is 'my voice', another is 'another's voice'. And this is not natural to us. We have been taught this. As children, we were all taught this: 'This is you, this defines you, this is another.' Actually, you're just effortlessly existing, containing all things, containing all appearances.

The body, yes, it appears to be another. Without interpretation as 'another', as I say, look around without interpretation or judgment. You see all these qualitative appearances, but does the sense of 'me' and 'another' come without the notion? See, this sign is appearing, that hand is appearing, that hand is available. Without any notion, does it become 'my hand' and 'another hand'? No, just appearances in the same space of perception, the same space of existence. That can happen.

Second thing is that we seem to have this visual perspective, the centrality of the visual perspective. It seems to be centered around this body and we seem to be looking outwards from here. And that's why so many of us, although we know this is not true, we still feel like 'I must be an object which is sitting inside this head'. As far as this question: is the back of your head in front of you or behind you? Where is it in relation to you? It's a good contemplation, although it can seem a bit strange, because it looks at this belief we have that 'I am something contained within this container, the body container'.

But then when we observe the sensations which we call the back of my head and try to find our relationship with that, we find that it's just another sensation occurring in the same space. It's so funny that we look this way, then we say, 'When I say go inside, you check inside', meaning of course we feel we are checking inside the body. But you, as a doctor, you know that we are not checking inside the body. 'Check inside, go to your heart, experience the presence there, your existence.' You use these words, isn't it? But you know as a doctor that if you were to open the physical heart, it is just a pump pumping blood. So this 'inside' is not inside this body. It is beyond this whole dimensional realm.

Our existence as prior is beyond this four-dimensional realm. This is just an appearing, a manifest instrument. And these things which are so obvious, right under the nose, we never really looked. Did you say, 'Go inside? Okay, I'll close my eyes.' But how much of it is inside my body? You know, what is this 'inside'? What is the space of perception in which imagination, memories, thoughts, sensations of the body—all of this is perceived? Is it a different space compared to when all this other visual stimuli is available? You see? Where is all this appearing? Is it in a different space? It's one. One perception, one being, one appearance.

And as we check this, you will find that even beyond this... I was saying the other day, why do you take only some sensations and call them 'me'? Why don't you take every sensation, every perception, and call it 'me'? Why don't you take that entire space in which all these sensations and perceptions, including thoughts, memories, imagination, everything, appear? And you say, 'But even in this, there is something.' Why don't you take that which witnesses all of this also? If you have to use 'I' or 'me' for something, we can be fully inclusive. This is the great part of Advaita. We can make everything fully inclusive and say, 'It is I'. Or you can say, 'Neti, neti'—not this, not this, not this, not this. But you come to the same place.

That which includes everything... why? Because the greatest aspect of yourself, the greatest aspect of yourself, is this unchanging awareness. The dynamic aspect of it is just like a flickering movement of light inside there. When you find this that is aware, this Self which is aware, you want to claim it. And what you say is true. But if you would truly, truly look at it in reality, that is all you can claim. That is actually all that you can claim. The one that claims everything else is the 'no one', you see? The one that claims 'my body, my family, my relationship, my freedom, my hands'—you see, that is the no one. You don't find this one. Over the years, how many times have I asked in satsang: 'So who is the one that wants freedom? Produce that one, I will give it to that one.' You never produce that one because that is a no one. It doesn't exist.

The one that is truly here is only the Self. But I know what you mean. And this world came out of all properly speaking, it's all equipment of all. He is a non-existent, but it has a lawyer which is the voice. We check for the... check with the mind. Who's your client? Who are you representing? It keeps saying 'me, me, me'. You, of course. But who is that one? Let's not go there. Three times you start speaking to someone. So what do you get? What do you get if you ask who you are? Is it very useful? Is it a joy? Is that what you get? I think suppose you did not get anything at all. You did not find any bliss, did not find any peace, did not find any joy. Would you still be trying to find out who you are? Because everything that you seem to be doing is for this 'you'.

If you are climbing a wall, would you want to find out for whose benefit you're climbing this wall? And say there comes a point where the longing becomes so big that we don't care what happens as a result of this recognition, as a result of this realization. You don't care about the perks. You just want to know what is real, what is true. Because it is working even in this. Apparently there is something that is good. It was the dropping of the false and this truth becoming... so as I said in the parentage, that's why I said that even if these byproducts are not there, suppose I was to tell you that no crying, no bliss, no more tears that way, nothing will happen to you. All this is where it's happening, that's fine, okay. It has nothing to do with the reality of what you are. But you still long for the truth.

Or you know what he says? That all of this is happening, there is nobody there. Then I say, so how do you know about this happening? You know what is happening. Either we are making it up like a concept... there are two things, right? Either it could be something which is conceptual, like 'the world is moving, the earth is rotating around the sun'—we have a concept of it—or you are aware of its functioning, its happening. So you see that when you say that there is nobody there and it is all just a happening, then is this in the currents like a concept or is this your direct insight? In either case, you have to be there. You have to be there.

But the problem that has happened is that though you are, the 'I' has been used in the wrong way for so long that when it has been used for this qualityless, attributeless Self, to the mind it can feel like, 'But I'm not there'. You are there. You are all there is anyway. You are all there is. So this 'you' can seem like such a different view compared to what you thought you were that it can feel like, 'I can't use the same I for this and that'. So when you say that in satsang also, anytime you say that there is nobody there, what do we mean? We mean that there is nobody there personally. There is no individual entity there. But all is you. You are all there is. Other than you, can you see whether the breathing is inside or outside? Breathing in, breathing out. 'Outside' and 'inside' is just a notion. There is no separation, no boundary of any sort. Boundless. And it is just there, witnessed, you know? Explore the unchanging part.

Even completely full of identification, completely full of emotion, the awareness is just awareness. I do have a question. Why has consciousness chosen to temporarily zoom in on this body in particular? Why has consciousness chosen to... what is it that wants to have awareness of? Why is it that for the Self, the body would be seeming to be somewhat of a constraint in this life? Apologies for the question, this comes from a moment.

It's a good question. So maybe this is just level one of the play. If you feel like, 'Oh, everything that happens to this body, everything, all the sensations, all the things that seem to happen to this body, this is no big deal', then if you start to feel every body around you like your own body, there are no limits to consciousness. And then you have to actually report this experience. And at some level, it already happens for us. See, I take this example of if you're driving on the road and somebody, a bicyclist, a cyclist in front of you falls down. So this 'me' will want to say 'ouch', but nothing happened to your body. Some pain, some experience is being felt here.

So as we grow in our spaciousness, then you will find that the seemingly zooming in on one body is no longer necessarily a constraint. Also what happens is that we are very experienced in this. The minute we start calling another body-mind 'my wife', 'my children', then when something happens to that body, can we experience some pain because of that? How is it possible? By myself, up to that recognition of myself, up to that experience. The thing is that as we go beyond that, you are completely open to whatever experience, whatever it is, whatever perception. I guess the question was more of: why is the perspective from this body and this body's senses in particular? Why this one? Maybe it is just a mystery. There is no mystery in what reality is. There is no answer to any 'why'.

Then when something happens to that body, can the experience be some pain because of that? How is it possible? Me, myself, up to that recognition of myself, up to that experience... The thing is that as we go by, then you are completely open to whatever experience, whatever it is, whatever perception. I guess the question was more of: why is the perspective from this body and this body's senses in particular? Why this one? Maybe it is just mystery.

It is no mystery. In what reality there is no answer to any 'why'? I have been saying that the answer to all 'why' is consciousness. And yet we are not even sure that this is the case. Maybe this is the only moment you have with this body. To presume that you really had a past with it is just to rely on something so unreliable, because the memory which is available even for the dream body, no? You don't start to dream in the state of amnesia. Yes, you recognize the people there. What happened to this dream body? If it had a scar, then you will be able to look at that scar and say, 'This happened when I was a child.' So much as this is playing intimately with sensations of this particular body, but we can truly see whether it has been like this and for how long.

It would be beautiful when, as if thoughts also heard his voice, the voice of my mind, as if I am speaking.

Yes, what we do this... and everybody else has a different experience of this. Yeah, many years ago, if you were there, we did this exercise. How do your thoughts appear to you? For some, they are visually like this. For some, visually like this. For some, it is like audio, the hearing volume part. So some of it is coming like a neon flash. The perception of thoughts and how they are perceived is also consciousness playing. Did you know? Uniquely, somebody will do physics either or, you know, what you mean, how they perceive it is good to look. And how many of you hear it? Is it audio-visual? What is that arising? When we say thought arises, what is perceived that we say thought arises? Okay, we'll go next door and tell me how the physical deleting consumer dreams you sensation. This is a position since perceived qualitatively image. Yes, there it says nothing in actuality. All of this play, this energetic movement, ultimately is you, you, you.

So if the only seeming trouble is this 'me' because it... you might not believe there was no... we see mean turbulence because this suffering is there, which is a result of the idea for 'me' that can suffer. The logical question then would be: so what can I do about 'me'? As long as there's a 'me', this 'me' has these attributes too: sheer desire, the sense of separation, duality, the 3D 'me'. So this motion can do that. So what can I do? Is there something I can do? Do not play this cat. One is there: allow the owl to come into your life. Second is these oceans to just come, install them to come as they arise. Cannot be even a resting phase of your belief, of your identification. And even if they are believed, the good news is that you're free of your entire belief system in this one. If there'll be something more beautiful that you could be identified for one million lifetimes, but when you check on yourself, this one, the freshness of this now, because all gone. The next 'who' will come from what? Is it really gone? Come, come try to that offer and seem like the entire pool of conditioning, the giant tree of karma, seems to come back.

That's why I pretend doing or not doing it is part of the appearance of this world to clean your own grease. The warm grace is consciousness just switches out of this limitation. And that's all to having a pattern, a weakening moment like a face for a... I'm sorry, today's three point this that was gone has always been born. I can take him to me something. Let me tell you something personal which is not true. I see that there is no such person and yet I exist. All of you, I'm saying, speaking on your behalf: I see that there is no person and yet my existence is here. That which exists is only one. Without making up a notion, without making up an idea, never experienced the pumas, have only experienced oneness.

Take one piece of paper. We don't concept to motions of them and say in the rational you are. Let me giving you something. If you become the notion of countries, a giant arose that notion, a one-year rule. Okay, who raises a piece of paper with all appearances are still appearing? This is what I'm saying. Actually, all these appearances are still appearing, but till you have the notion, another... so label these motion. There's one piece of paper, one strong. There is no distinction within this example and what we seem to be doing, looking at appearance, something that is this one, this tea that is Gopal. Where is... is there such a thing as Gopal? Such a thing as written this? Such a thing as enough? It's in Swahili. So easy to first see that even just looking, that is the interpretive mind is just making static friend, its object, some distinction, some story trying to connect this is. But whatever this sensation, no moment when not giving in to what parents, it feels just like this one point itself.

Slowly scary, because suddenly looking at all these objects external and not relating with the story. So scary, very scary is very good too because sometimes they can seem like, what's the point? I've looked around so many times, what's a big tease? Then you look around without judgment, without interpretation. It feels like the ground from under your being it has been pulled up. This idea where you will contain themselves ham because you know without interpretation you only meeting yourself. Something feels like this is the death of individuality. This is a big fear of the unknown. What this kind of here to... and it takes a major pilgrimage just to face this is what you get. I mean you're looking at this because you just be yourself watching yourself for by what you being you know and you can just openly just say that and then in that you find that there is no limitation and boundary. Isn't that it says something that somebody would want to go towards you would even as it being useful if you want to really go towards it to see your own expansiveness?

Can you see depth? Although this idea of limitlessness is real attractive to most be there, the interpretation from the mind without having said these superpowers: will I be able to predict the future? May be able to change the past? By places at the same time? You will actually all of this and much more, but still when the 'me' is carried, the 'me' is carried along, then it can feel like it was power must mean that isn't it the most powerful that you're the light of this universe? It shows the appearance of this entire plate is in your life of this time, space, gravity, electricity. All of this is happening in your very presence. But then if something is free clear a bit, if something, some like appearance of some object was appearing date and suddenly comes alive, that becomes like a miracle. But what about the space in which all the miracle is happening? That's not a visit? That's taken for granted all all this time is appearing within you. You're the perceiver of it. You've experienced many different types of time. You've experienced James in which in this world time only a little bit, time as powerful life, time as possible thing. You've experienced all of this return.

But if you could predict, 'Okay, tomorrow morning for breakfast you're going to eat this,' that is a super puzzle. This is our limitlessness is understood in this world. And as I am, what I'm pointing you to is your business which is where effortless existence condition has become so deeply ingrained. The motion of limitation of individuality, it seems to have become so clean. These minor peanuts seem to be what we call the business. Then this is like miracle security. I just read some people now I thought c'est mieux. The funny thing is, the funny thing is that even situation to handle a limitation come on babies doubled. Like I said, have connection for the last four year we've actually felt like one piece and it's commonly occurs at you, you. It will please no level. Only all that happens is your will, right? But not you hopefully personally, you know illness yourself, you lose consciousness.

You will be astounded as to the amazing reality that you are. This is what you consider yourself. There'll be some time before even this settles down, it becomes unnatural. This time of wonder. See me switching over of power. Let Ron go from the switch over from person to be that symptomatically suppose this start to appear for us. And again I'm saying every time that it is never the same for any aspect of consciousness. It's always playing with variety, always. So this become like an expectation, but for those it is finding these experiences of their life just reassuring. It's very, very natural.

All looks brilliant, Father. Like I'm not even on the planet. This is remote sensory instrument. It's embedded like... but to me all that you have this is between the children ourselves to be I in for so long. It's still around but it is not the entirety of my existence. The entirety of my existence contains everything and the etiquettes is not out of grace. Still has it wound for a million more universes to appear. Nothing actually takes up any nutrient space within. Just like on a movie screen you can project one picture of the entire solar system or you can show one two on your screen between them.

So this ocean of space is just like the notion of time. It seemed to have some tangible reality on the screen of consciousness is working. This was beautiful the other day in satsang it came up like this: that this now that we are speaking about is not a moment in time. Now that we are speaking about a mission time and now they vary the now of your existence. You are here now. This now is it touched by time? I was just mostly measure of the rate of change. So stay with your existence, fear with that darkness and thing is changing. So because this hand is moving, you know the whole point of time is happening in the world, but that nowness is it changing? Something moving forth as it aged a few seconds? There is no motion like that for four eight. So it is beyond. Same way because step out to the parents would see this being panoramic view. You just look like this, you will see a tiny but has something really changed for the spaciousness of your being? Okay, this the visual is changing. This world is projected on the screen. It seems the being is the same, untouched by time, is fields untouched by any perception. This being, this God, the supreme here now.

It's cooling so far there. It's so clear that there is only this awareness. Mind is shouting out loud, 'It can't be this simple.' Yes, this feels stronger than to see a winds. Somehow I can't grasp this. I am, I exist, have a life. Probably mine tries to perceive. It's clear but not crystal clear that I am because here it is.

Don't be right now is that this is slipped through that. So don't try to make it simple for the mind. Don't try to get the mind to accept it. You see, I say don't be right now. Only this one moment. Don't exist. I'm still here by this. Let's get on bull is not to come and going. You cannot turn it on and off like this. This being, this existence is what you Jesus is the 80 of the waking state for very existence and ultimately you are beyond the event. This is even this you are aware of. As a long dynamic ass that which is effortless, silent, innocent witness, even this is for beyond all mental constructs. That which is not a thing and yet is all things with all things are made up of just an theorized from just and go back to just you exactly which is making all these various parts of various shapes and sizes but it itself is not a thing. Please give up the questions for next time. Thank you all so much for being succinctly solution Mooji Baba.