What do you find without the mind?

So in the mind, what do you find? That's the conclusion, judgment, interpretation, labeling, difference, duality, do worship, desire. All of this is what you find in the mind without this, what do you find? The question is, what do you find without the mind? You see, not even the secret is there, not even like, I have to find. And yet we have to use the word provision only. Something is recognized there, something is recognized which is not a thing. There's no thing he needs to it, there's no quality or quantity there. There is no perception needed, perception can come, but it's independent of perception. That's simple.