A free person can still say 'ouch'

Then you are completely open to the pain also, completely open. Let me have this idea that one who is free will not say, ouch, completely. It is not like it is just another mind trick. So pain can come out and come. Anything more of this can come. It can do as awareness or complete the un-catch-wind. Like I was saying earlier, if you have no desire for any outcome, you know, many of us are still waiting for the outcome of a free person. If you have no desire for any outcome, in that itself is freedom.