Seekers go to the thief himself and ask how to catch the thief

So, let's use the metaphor of the thief then. You see, who doesn't want to be caught, obviously. Now, what most of us do as spiritual seekers, we go to this thief itself to say, okay, now how do I get rid of the thief or catch the thief? You see, and what if you're the thief who's going to say it? You're not going to give himself up, but you're not going to give himself up. You see? So, that mistake, that folly that we make in terms of trying to catch the thief, following the thief's instruction is predominantly the job of this spiritual seeker. That is all, that is mostly what his spiritual seeker is doing. So, if you cannot go to the mind for instructions about how to get to Manonasha,