Going from closed fist to open fist

But what is happening is that through experience, through all these experiences in life, they are becoming open and open, willing to let go of our most favourite ideas. And if you didn't have any conditioning, then just hearing that your solitary witness, the unchaining self, can be the end of this healing spiritual journey, don't need any energetic support, nothing. But if Grace has already opened you out, the functioning of Grace is this way, makes us open to the truth which is very simple and obvious actually. So the whole Dharma, the whole play choosing between masters, going here, going there, all of that was all of the play of going from close fist to open fist. Because what is being shared by all the two masters is just the same thing, you are that, you are the self.