श्रीरामSatsang with Ananta
The Self (I Am)

Who Is The One Who Is Not The Doer?

Ananta clarifies that there is no 'me' who is either the doer or non-doer - both assumptions create identity, and true freedom lies in recognizing no individual exists while leaving life open to grace.

Seeker

I wanted to say I’m very thankful to you. Just hoping that you do all the clean-up job and, hopefully, I can start with the same Light that you have with all the people that are around because I’d really like to be of service to people, and I think the best way to do that is to be that. Maybe there are some personal problems that go through the mind, but I don’t really want to comment on that—like, at the moment I don’t feel that there is any—and just to say that and to thank you for all the Satsangs.

Ananta

Very Good, very good. I’ve no doubt that Guruji’s [Sri Mooji] grace will make the best use of every life that is surrendered to this grace; there’s no doubt at all about that. Whatever may be the best, most auspicious use, so-called “use” [makes air quotes], of a surrendered life, Grace is only moving that way. So, you don’t have to worry at all about that. Just make sure that you’re not determining very strongly what that looks like, you see, because life can surprise you. You can carry the feeling, the almost intention, in your heart, but don’t determine what that looks like in outward expression too strongly. Leave life a bit open because then you will find such a graceful expression, non- resistive—because if you have too strong a box in terms of where you want your life to go or what it should do, then it can become in resistance to that pure auspiciousness, which is playing out anyway, which will also ultimately be auspicious alone. But if there is any guidance that can be provided about this…so, the intention, the feeling in the heart is very beautiful; don’t try to determine what that should translate into in life. Let life determine that for you. Here, for example, I felt like even if one day I become free, I don’t want to share Satsang; I’m too introverted, too private. I would rather sit and read a book, you see, than to sit in front of all of you and share words—that did not feel natural at all. But I left it open and to Guruji’s grace. So, how it has to play out, you can leave to the Master’s grace.

Seeker

Yes, you said sometimes that we get open and empty and then let life flow, and I don’t know if I mistake that for the experience, but whenever I’m in Satsang or listening to some highlight video, there are times when I don’t feel like—it’s a feeling actually, so I don’t want to mistake that for the thing here, like my body is moving automatically, I’m just out of the equation.

Ananta

Yes, yes. Very good, very good. It is just a recognition of how it always is, just a recognition of how it always is. Like, can you move your body as you personally? Move your body, move your finger. How do you do it? So, the idea of automatic or with volition, you see, is just an idea. So, when you’re empty of that idea, then you see that ah, it’s just moving in that intelligence of Consciousness, everything is just moving. So, those moments when we recognize the absence of individual volition or agency, they can seem very freeing. But remember that the I who could control doesn’t exist at all, so it is not that you are not the doer, it is that that which could have been the doer or non-doer doesn’t exist. You see, you’re with me, no? So, many times we can just get into this sort of frame of mind that no, no, but I am not the doer, everything is being done for me automatically. But there is no such me. And that is important to see because otherwise what can happen is that we can still feel, if things are not going so well according to our minds, then we can start feeling like we are the victim to this, like I have no doer- ship but I am subject to all this that is happening to me, oh, dear God, why are you doing this to me, please stop. You see? These kind of ideas can come if we still hold ourselves separate or the one who is not-the-doer in some way. [Laughs] Who’s the one who’s not the doer?

Seeker

If I assume there is a non-doer, then that question comes into play.

Ananta

Yes, exactly, exactly. So, if there could be a non-doer, then we must investigate who is this non-doer, you see. But if one has no such assumption, which you rightly said, then there is nothing at all, there’s no individuality at all. Remember to not assume either doer-ship or non-doer-ship because either way there is identity.

Seeker

There is identity either way, okay. You’re right. I feel like I’ve been too attached to that experience of non-doership, emphasizing the non-doer. And it’s not always like that, but I feel like yes, I have made out this narrative that whenever I’m in that state that is when I’m free, not otherwise.

Ananta

Yes. This is a common trap in Advaita these days where we take on the identity of being the non-doer too strongly, but who is that one who’s the non-doer? Who’s not the doer? Is there still a me, a little ol’ me who is now a puppet in God’s hands? As a provisional statement of surrender, that could be alright. You see, as a provisional statement of surrender, that could be alright. But it’s not a true statement in any sense of the word.

Seeker

You know, Anantaji, sometimes when I read these transcripts on the Facebook page, whenever you share something personal—like, for example, I read an article in which you said that years ago, you had something with your relationship—and that makes me feel like I thought he was perfect.

Ananta

[Laughs] Oh, yes. I’ll just call my wife and she can tell you all the imperfections. [Laughs]

Seeker

And that happens a lot because I’ve watched Eckhart Tolle’s videos years ago, and there was one girl who accompanies him saying even he is not perfect. Like, I had this idea that when I get to That, I will be perfect.

Ananta

This is a recurring theme in today’s conversation—it’s where will we go to determine perfection? And we talk about this actually, this idea of perfect. Where will we go to determine perfection? What will be the true way to measure perfection? Like, to be able to determine, oh, this is perfect or this is not so perfect, we must have a great sense to be able to measure it. So, what gives us the ability to measure perfection or imperfection? Like, if we met perfection, how would we know it? It’s worth contemplating because otherwise we can get stuck in an idea of what we think perfection is, and we say wow, that is so perfect, and your friend looks at the same thing and says: What? That? That is not perfect at all, that’s terrible. And it happens many times in our life, so what’s going on? What is the discrepancy?

Seeker

Yes, sometimes one has the idea, since ideas change according to people, yes.

Ananta

And even our own ideas, they change over the years. Like five years ago, you may have thought that Cristiano Ronaldo is perfect or some sport person that you admire or something like that. Today you might find that a spiritual master is perfect, tomorrow you might find some other idea of perfection, you see? But what is the basis on which we can say okay, this idea is truly true, it’s really valid? [Pauses] It’s a tough one. [Laughs]

Key Teachings

  • The one who is 'not the doer' doesn't exist - neither doership nor non-doership should be assumed as both create identity
  • Don't determine what surrendered life should look like; leave it open to grace - the intention in the heart is beautiful but let life determine the expression
  • The common trap in Advaita is taking on the identity of being the non-doer, but who is that one? Even 'I am not the doer' implies a 'me'
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From: I'm Inviting You Home, Where We Are One - 14th August 2020