श्रीरामSatsang with Ananta
Awareness & Attention

Whatever is coming meet it in a full way

Meet whatever comes in a full way without denial - the mind only presents fragments of your infinite experience, and suffering is just pain plus false concepts.

Seeker

Hello

Ananta

Hello my love. Did you finish your previous transcript? Hmm?

Seeker

No, Father..

Ananta

You are piling up then [Chuckles]

Seeker

Yes. Sorry about this but I will finish soon. Father, actually while I am, I was doing today, just um, yeah, it touched some part and so much negaHvity comes up which I experienced actually the whole week.

Ananta

So say it again. When you try to do the transcript there’s some resistance?

Seeker

Not towards transcript ofcourse but something..

Ananta

Yes, yes. So then that’s good. You must do it if there is resistance.

Seeker

Yes, just I go with the resistance and I needed to take rest a liZle bit.

Ananta

Yes. I am just changing my mic my dear, one second.

Seeker

Sure.

Ananta

All right. Am I sHll audible?

Seeker

Yes Father.

Ananta

Ok. Good-good.

Seeker

So.. I just come up because the whole week I experienced so much negaHvity which feels untrue but which was very..

Ananta

Are you ready? Sorry my dear but, are you ready for this quesHon which is my new sword now, you see.

Seeker

I am ready.

Ananta

Which is ‘How do you know your experience?’

Seeker

Yeah, I don’t know.

Ananta

That was quick, that was quick. That is very good because if you go from ‘my whole week I’ve been experiencing negaHvity, to ‘but I don’t really know’ you see, because if I ask you about the week the memory may throw up a few instances from last week, you know. Maybe four or five, things like this. But you had thousands and thousands of moments in the last week. And I, I realized that the mind does not have the capacity to capture knowledge about our experience and yet it presents to us a narra%ve which it wants us to believe, wants Consciousness to take to be true, you see. Just like a child saying ‘ Hear my story, because it is true.’ But it’s all made up. In the same way your mind presents a narraHve about our experience. But now you come to the maturity where you can see that ‘Can I really bank on those words?’ ‘Can I really rely on those words which claim to convey a story about my experience? But is it really true?’ you see. Because what the mind will do is constantly, expecially because you are having good insights about what you are, it will present to you problems and narraHves which it will say ‘First resolve these and then we will talk about greater things’ you see. ‘First fix that aspect of your life.’ ‘Look, look fix that first. Who are you to claim freedom? You haven’t even sorted out this issue.’ So it will present these stories with the claim of knowledge where it doesn’t actually have that knowledge. With me? At least liZle bit, no?

Seeker

Yes, yes, fully.

Ananta

Because it’s it’s very very important. So when we are able to spot the nature of the mind and its conclusions about what it claims to be our experience, as just a Hny aspect of my Being, then we don’t fall for the tricks. So that’s why these days I’ve started saying ‘Okay, if you can narrate your experience of a week to me, can you tell me your experience right now?’ What is your experience right now? [Silence] And I promise you nobody can do it. Because at best you will take a fragment of it. You will take a small aspect of it ‘Oh, I’m feeling some resistance’ or ‘I’m feeling some joy’. But that just a fragment, a Hny fragment in your Infinite Being. So no mind can narrate the stroy of what is your true experience for one moment also. So it can not do it for a week. So it can do it as conversaHon among friends, you see. So we may talk as friends and say ‘Ah, my last week I can tell you, I had so much work and ’ you see. ‘This happened to me’ and you can say ‘Yes, yes my friend this is what my week’ but if you are really saying ‘Satsang is Truth’ then we can not truly say, like I can not tell you what my week was like because it was just too big for me to put it into words.[Silence]. So but I’m not promoHng any sort of denial that ‘Oh, I was feeling like this but no, no no let’s just deny that.’ No, I’m saying don’t meet it halfway, you see. Whatever is coming meet it in a full way and you’ll realize that when you meet something in a full way, then you don’t have the capacity to interpret it or insert it in some idea about ourselves.

Seeker

I feel so touched with something that you said like meet with whatever it is, you said something like this. Like don’t.. No denial. When you said this, I feel so touched.

Ananta

Yes.

Seeker

When I see that you accept this part, too.

Ananta

Ofcourse. Because I know the mind and the naysayers will always have this idea that ‘Oh, this is some sort of bypassing or this is some sort of denial’ but I am not saying deny at all. I am saying accept but why are you picking and choosing among your experiences and saying ‘Only this is relevant to me’ God is pain%ng the whole picture for you. Is denial to say ‘Look at the whole picture and don’t get lost in a Hny aspect of it because that makes you suffer.’ That is not denial. That is acceptance of your full reality, not your incomplete limited idea of just being a body mind. [Pause]

Seeker

Yeah. There was a kind of false suffering I also say this, you know. There is suffering but it’s false suffering because it was like, as you said now, just it was the habit of interpretaHon, but I can not, it does not work at all. So this kind of false suffering was playing, the whole week.

Ananta

And I’ll give you another Hp which will be helpful. Suffering is only about the false. You see. There is no (such a thing) as true suffering because true suffering would mean that I take myself to be what I really am and that one is suffering.

Seeker

I try to translate (poinHng her head) to my naHve language.

Ananta

That’s why it’s helpful to transcribe because you can hear it in your own Hme and just immerse yourself in the words. And just see, see what I am saying. So I’ll repeat this again and you can trabscribe it only once. but but we can have this idea of false suffering and true suffering. True suffering would mean that I am not taking myself to be the false, I am taking myself to be what I truly am and yet I am suffering.Now, I haven’t met that. Because what I found myself to be and which I am, which I am certain that you are as well, because there are no two, is this Unchanging Pure Awareness Witnessing principle to which suffering is not even a concept, you see. It’s not even, it’s not even an alien concept , it’s not a concept at all. So suffering relies on false idenHficaHon because in the Light of Truth there is no such thing as suffering. In the Light of Truth the experience or the percepHon of pain can be there, you see. But pain resisted with concepts is called suffering.

Seeker

May you repeat Father?

Ananta

Yes. I am saying in your spacious percepHon from Openness there could be the experience of what we may call pain but suffering means pain plus concepts, you see. Pain can appear naturally, you see but for suffering you have to work hard. I know it sounds the opposite of what we think but for to suffer we are doing a lot of work. [Silence]

Seeker

Yes, it was just too obvious how false it was but it was playing anyway.

Ananta

Yes. Once it seen to be false then it loses its ability to grab us, you see. Because we only believe what we think to be true. Nobody says ‘Oh, this is so false, let me believe it’. Isn’t it? Try to do that, you see. Whatever I’m going to say now is going to be false, just believe it. You see. ‘A man climbed up the tree and then he fell down’ you see. It’s all false, believe it. It doesn’t work like that. [Pause]

Seeker

Thank you.

Ananta

So welcome, so welcome. I enjoyed this interacHon. Thank you, thank you..

Seeker

And yeah, thank you. I feel like it’s such a gie for me, the way you’re speaking and I really took it and thank you for this. Highlight from Satsang- 11th June 2021 How Do You Know Your Experience Time: 01:12:08 – 01:23:32 Link: hZps://youtu.be/K7U-vO8LjHM

Key Teachings

  • The mind cannot capture the full reality of our experience - it only presents a tiny narrative fragment while our actual experience is infinite
  • Don't meet experience halfway - meet whatever comes in a full way without denial or picking and choosing among your experiences
  • There is no true suffering - suffering is pain plus concepts; in the Light of Truth (Pure Awareness), suffering doesn't exist as it requires false identification
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From: If It Requires Resolution It Is Not the Truth - 22nd November 2019