What Needs To Vanish?

What is in between two thoughts? What is there?

Yes, yes. When a thought comes does something change for that ‘I’?

And these thoughts can they ever truly represent this ‘I’?

But?

Okay, good, good.

What needs to vanish? If you are clear about what you are, then does anything need to come or go?

If you remain untouched by whatever may come (and that is your insight now not just a spiritual concept), if you have an insight that whatever may come to the Reality of me as the Awareness, as the pure witnessing principle, remains untouched -then why would we need something to vanish or something to appear?

Then leave it, don't worry about it.

Any thought which makes a representaHon of you or makes any reference to you is an ‘I’ thought. So empty of all representaHons including the representaHon that ‘I don't need to do anything because it is just ‘I’ thoughts - that I need to do something or don't need to do anything’ is also our thought.

Conclusions is being offered but your Being is never hostage to any conclusion.

SomeHmes it feels like ‘If it was in my case and some dessert was being offered then it feels very difficult to not pick up the conclusion.’ [Smiles] But it's sHll possible. So that which we have nurtured with our belief system, that which we have taken to be true for so long, when that seems to appear again it can seem like that has a certain magneHsm which seems to pull Consciousness in. And it can feel like Consciousness is actually hostage to that kind of mindset. But it's never true.

There is no such thing, that's only a thought. Because if there was like a kind of ‘I’ like this that was hostage, then how would be talking over zoom over thousands of miles help that ‘I’? What does the talking do? The talking only helps you to clarify that ‘actually there is no such limited one or bound one or hostage one.’ To See that is Freedom. To presume that there is such a one is bondage. If there would be such a one, what would bind it? Suppose it was a rope that is binding it then you would need at least a scissor or a knife no? Words could not ‘Yeah, yeah, rope go away’ so if there was some actual bondage then you would need some implement to resolve it. At least you would need some Hatha-yoga or something and that is fine in its own way but what I’m saying is that Gyan-yoga (which is to point you directly to the clarity of what you are) could not work because if there was some real bondage that would sHll need to be deconstructed. And yet it is Gyan-yoga which is called the most direct part (of course in every path whoever is there I’m sure they feel like that is the most direct one). Suppose you had nothing to resolve.

Exactly. [Smiles]

I feel someHmes in spirituality and especially the ones who've been at it for a long Hme, then it can just feel like ‘Oh, then if God is just ever fresh, ever available, it’s presence is always so palpable, then what am I going to do now? I need to fix my mind or something.’ But the mind is just being the mind perfectly well it doesn't need to be fixed or changed or anything. It is doing its job fully well. So now no problem lee. Then?