श्रीरामSatsang with Ananta
The Self (I Am)

To Know Even One Thing Is to Know Too Much

Set aside all time-bound conceptual knowledge - even one thing is too much - to recognize the innocent Intelligence that naturally knows nothing yet is everything.

Ananta

I said, “If to know even one thing was to know too much, if to know even one thing was to know too much, what is it that you know when you know nothing?” I know it sounds very confusing in a way it could be, but fundamentally what I am pointing you to is that…absent of the need to know effortfully or to know in time, that which you know effortfully and you know in time, it was not something that you always knew then for the purposes of Satsang that knowledge can be kept aside and even if you know one thing that is like that it is to know too much. Now, when you don’t have any knowledge in this time-bound effortful way, what is it that remains? [Silence] So look at everything that you think you know and if it came to you in time just keep it aside for a moment. And what is it that you are not willing to keep aside, that you can surrender or inquire into the Truth of that? Lost in words or with me? So everything that you got to know that you did not know originally, that came to you over a period of time, just leave that aside. It is too much to know. So to get to true Self-knowledge we need to return to simplicity. You cannot return to innocence and simplicity if you know too much and how much is too much? Even one thing is too much. Even the one thing that came to you in time is too much. So ‘let it go.’ Now, what do you know independent of that time-bound knowledge, independent of that which you picked up as a concept? What remains when all your conceptual-knowledge is gone? Can you keep the investment in this moment in the false? No, you can’t keep it. Can you understand it in your head? So all that that came to you in time were just versions of ‘what Is’ but none of them truly represent ‘what Is.’ Can you take an example, what do you know? Like take any example, what do you know?

Seeker

Is that what you learn.

Ananta

Like what, for example?

Seeker

A name or gender or that knowledge…

Ananta

Yeah, so these it’s very clear that it came in time it was not original to me so it can be kept aside. Then anything that you feel like is clear that ‘I know this, it has to be like this!’

Seeker

Sensation in the body.

Ananta

Like sensations in the body like do you know this? I am not bullying you out of it no? I am just asking sincerely, it may sound strong. I am just asking sincerely can we really say ‘a sensation is in the body’. We have some perception that we call the body, in those sensations that we also call the ‘body’ but do we really know that it is in this [points to the body], flesh-bucket? Can we really say where it is coming from? There are so many examples we have taken in the past like what is it called ‘the amputee’?

Seeker

Phantom limb.

Ananta

Phantom limb, the rubber glove, the rubber glove experiment where the subject of the experiment they were asked to keep their hands at a distance like this and then there was a false hand that was put there and that other hand was blocked, your real hand, it was just put there. Then for a while what you do is you stimulate both hands with some feather or brush or something together and then what happens is that this false rubber hand is poked with a pin and you can feel the sensation of the pin although that which you call ‘your hand’ was never poked. So our Consciousness has the ability to experience whatever sensation but the…causative idea that it comes from the body cannot be verified and we don’t have to dispute it but at least it makes it doubtable and to make it doubtable is enough. It is our convictions; it is our beliefs which keep us caught up in the limited idea about ourselves. So empty of that which needs belief and empty of that which needs conviction what is it that is apparent to you?

Seeker

Is knowing that ‘I Am Aware’ a case of Knowing too much?

Ananta

Yes, so when we say ``Knowing that I Am Aware” so I am putting ‘I Am Aware’ in quotes. In quotes means we make a notion out of it. But without that what is there? Is it expressible? We may point to It as Awareness. We may point to It as ‘I Am Aware.’ But does it really contain the Truth in the way we think it means? You can look at this. You can look at this. Like what is the difference between Self-knowledge and the notion that ‘I Am Aware’? In Self-knowledge also it is clear that ‘I Am Aware’ I am this Awareness itself but those words they don’t really serve the purpose. At best as pointers or if we need to communicate what the discovery is. Say…?

Seeker

Inaudible.

Ananta

So there is an idea, let’s take a simpler idea, maybe we say that ‘I exist.’ But exist independent of the idea ‘I exist’ No? There is ‘I exist-ness’ to you which is independent of the notion ‘I exist.’ Like suppose you did not understand any language or say speak any language you would not be able to say ‘I exist’ and yet it would be clear that you exist.

Seeker

(Inaudible).

Ananta

So that innocent-Intelligence which I don’t know I say this sometimes as a child when it’s born ‘oh, it’s time for me to cry. So let me start crying.’ It’s just born and ‘ah…’ And just say ‘okay, I am hungry. I want milk.’ It just happens. So all these activities, so all these natural activities, what Intelligence drives that? The same Intelligence which is beating our hearts, which is making our tear-glands function, the same Intelligence. So …that Intelligence makes the whole world function. Now in human arrogance what is happening is that we have taken out notional-Intelligence or what is true in our heads and we have given that primacy over that natural- Intelligence. So Satsang is nothing but returning to that innocence that innocent-Intelligence which by the way is the driving force for the whole universe that guiding-light as well as the screen. And our conceptual-knowledgeability just gets in our way, just gets in our way of that recognition. That is why the irony is that the words of Satsang like this can sound like 'I don’t think I can really understand this stuff. What is he talking about?’ What do you know when you know nothing? What kind of thing is that? It can sound very confusing to the mind and yet it’s so apparent in our hearts. So the attempt is to do the mind bypass like Guruji [Sri Mooji] says-the attempt is to do a mind bypass. So, this recognition is the greatest gift that you can give to yourself, the greatest gift that anyone can give to themselves. The gift of that which is always Is. It sounds strange. S1: Knowing too much means that it is thought or a belief of an ‘I’ that knows.

Ananta

Yes, thoughts can come and go,you see, but to ‘know conceptually’ means to believe.

Key Teachings

  • Even one thing known in time is too much - all conceptual knowledge that came to us over time must be set aside to return to simplicity and innocence
  • Our beliefs about reality (like sensations being in the body) cannot be verified - they are just convictions that keep us limited
  • True Intelligence is the innocent, natural Intelligence that drives all bodily functions and the universe - not our conceptual knowledge
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From: To Come to God, To Come to Being… Is Simply To Recognize Your Very Existence – 4th February 2022