श्रीरामSatsang with Ananta
Awareness & Attention

The Sufferer Is A Made-Up Entity

You are the unchanging witnessing consciousness, not the suffering body-mind; the sufferer is merely a mental narrative.

Ananta

Isn’t it worth discovering that - Who is the one that ‘I’ really am? Does that one really have a problem or am I solving non-existent ones?

Seeker

Could it be that maybe I am not interested in knowing who is this, maybe I want to become the madness completely.

Ananta

It could be, it could be but something brings you to Satsang whether it is Satyam or… those who are not interested then they find no reason to come to Satsang. So although it may seem like ‘I am here because I am suffering from loneliness or I am here because I have this addicHon to some substance’ but my feeling is that anyone who comes to Satsang… there's a sliver of openness for this discovery in them. Although the mind may paint it to seem as if ‘it is too hard or difficult or are you really interested in this?’ these kind of quesHons may come. But something keeps bringing you back and I feel like that itself is a sign that there is something there. Now that you are here just inquire. Isn’t it worthwhile to check? Suppose you spend your whole life represenHng somebody who never existed, are you willing to sacrifice your whole life to that one? Everybody lives in a way that they presume that ‘I am this body-mind.’ Everybody presumes ‘I am this body-mind’ and wants to live their life. And yet the ones who are truly happy in the world are the ones we call Sages, who have come to Self-discovery. So what are these ones who are coming to happiness and contentment who have come to a Self-discovery? But the rest of the world seems to be running on a treadmill of suffering. So something in you has suffered enough from all of these things, from relaHonships, from these physical things, that something is opening up to discover a higher Truth about yourselves. Because you are looking for some contentment, some peace, because you have been up and down too much on this roller coaster now. How this turns out nobody can predict. But I want to use every opportunity to make sure that you find what all of these ones who achieved contentment whose are finding. So if Bhagavan Ramana Maharishi got it, if Guruji [Sri Moojiji] got it, if Papaji [HWL Poonjaji] got it, then why not you? So what are they saying that got them through this peace, to this contentment? They are saying we must find out who we really are, we must find out who we really are. Because as long as we keep taking the narraHve from the mind that ‘I am this body’ Hll then this suffering never ends. Then I ask you ‘Okay, can you look and find the one that is suffering?’ You say ‘I don't know.’ That ‘I don't know’ is very good. That ‘I don't know’ is at least a huge leap from the idea that ‘I know it is me that is suffering, me only. What do you mean by that quesHon’? At least you are able to look and see who is this one. Is it the baby that was born to the mother? That baby, every cell in his body has changed now. Is it the one that is going to die on the deathbed that one will all the body will be fully different from this one? So who is this one that is here now? Till we don't know how can we say ‘this is happening to me or this is not happening to me’? Who is that one for which it is happening or not happening? Now I will give you some Hps, which will help you in this thing because otherwise it can seem impossible. So what I noHce you do is that when a quesHon is asked you go to that which we call the ‘mind’ for the answer. Because maybe you feel like you're on the spot or something or you need to have an answer. So you go to that aspect of our Being which we call the ‘mind.’ Now, from the mind you cannot answer this quesHon ‘Who am I?’ The answer is not available there. You may have an answer in your mind which will say ‘Oh, main atma hu, I am the soul, I am this’ all these answers we may have read in spirituality but they are not helping you. So forget about them, they are pointless. Do not worry about any of that, that will not help you. So let me guide you and you don’t go to your mind. You stay with the innocence of a child and see what happens. Can you try and stop exisHng right now? Stop being in this moment, can you do it? Do not be, do not exist. Tell me when you are done. When you do not exist tell me. Cannot do it no?

Seeker

Not possible.

Ananta

Not possible, not possible. This Being is who? So this Being which is not stoppable is here no, it is apparent. Now that Being is Consciousness, that being is God, that being is Atma, Paramatma, whatever you want to call it. Now is there a lack in that, is there something missing in that? Is that Being lonely? [Silence] Just look, do not think. Just look do not think. You do not have to have an answer.

Seeker

The loneliness is there. I can, I can see the… feelings are also there. The feel is there …I do not know. Right now it is going so nice. I can feel that I am here. But aeer …I do not know what will happen… Right now everything is fine.

Ananta

Yes, yes! So enjoy firstly enjoy the fineness of right now rather than worrying about what tomorrow will bring otherwise what is the point. I am saying that ‘If breakfast is good don't think about lunch right now, enjoy the breakfast which is good.’ So if everything is fine right now enjoy it, enjoy the breakfast. Now I was asking you whether this Being… you said the feeling of fear is there. I am not denying that, fear may be there. Now, the Being is suffering from this fear? Is your Being suffering from it? Who is the fearful one? The fear is there but introduce me to the one that is the fearful one. [Silence]

Seeker

There is something suffering but it is not the Truth.

Ananta

Is the one that witnesses that something ‘you’ or is that something ‘you’?

Seeker

The witnessing is me.

Ananta

The witnessing is ‘you’ and is that witnessing fearful or lonely?

Seeker

No, I can see the loneliness.

Ananta

Yes, yes, yes, very good, very good. So in the play of the waking state, in the play of the human condiHon all these qualiHes and aZributes are experienced, they come and they go. Nothing comes and stays forever you, nothing comes and stays forever. So allow these to come and go and noHce that you are the witnessing of them, you are not something that is suffering from them. The sufferer is a made-up enHty. It is just your mental narraHve and your mind is oppressing you in this way but that story belongs to nobody actually. That story actually belongs to nobody because you are the pure witnessing of all of this coming and going. So when I say remain open and empty it is not a pracHce, it is not a meditaHon. You do not have to be disciplined to do it. Just allow everything to come and go without making a pracHce out of it. Just make it your natural habit. Natural habit because actually naturally you are like this only. Everybody right now [Clicking of figures] is like this only. Nobody is holding on naturally. It is just something we learned how to do. So whatever is being perceived allow it to be there. Whatever thoughts are coming allow them to come and go and noHce that you are the witnessing of it, [you are] not that which comes and goes. Like this you will noHce that the addicHon to thinking will stop and as the addicHon to thinking stops and all addicHon all other addicHons will fall away. You will not even remember you had them. You will be like ‘What, I had this?’

Seeker

I will be very aware in these two three weeks. It [the addicHon] is really too much now.

Ananta

Very good, someHmes life has to squeeze us to this point that we become open to change.

Seeker

I think I am myself helpless with this.

Ananta

Yes, that's what Guruji says that ‘When we run out of moves, when we run out of moves that is when the Truth becomes very apparent to us.’ . . .

Key Teachings

  • The sufferer is a made-up entity - it's just mental narrative, not your true self
  • You are the unchanging witnessing consciousness, not the body-mind that experiences suffering
  • The answer to 'Who am I?' cannot come from the mind - stay with the innocence of being
  • When we run out of moves and stop trying to solve problems, Truth becomes apparent
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From: When What You Are Is Apparent to You, You Are With Your Intuition - 15th July 2022