राम
The Self (I Am)

The Guidance Received Independent of Mental Interpretation is Your

2021-06-18|23:51-33:40|Watch on YouTube

The identities we cling to (artist, special, enlightened) are always a step down from our true nature as God; seeing through this and laughing at the mind's proposals liberates.

Seeker

I feel, the thing that I`ve been working as an artist, there is a lot of identity in that, there is a lot of...I don`t know...

Ananta

Not inherently. If the movement of the body leads to artistic outcomes, it doesn`t naturally...

Seeker

Sorry?

Ananta

If certain movements of the body lead to artistic outcomes, it doesn`t naturally mean that the movement is full of identity. It is if you take yourself to be that who is creating those outcomes- your limited body-mind as that which is creating those outcomes.

Seeker

Yes, this is what I see, there is like this being an artist...I`m an artist...the need to be recognized, from you, too, or from Guruji [Sri Mooji] or from anyone, this need to be seen and to be somehow...to have an importance. I don`t know, I see that it`s...Somehow, I can`t identify with this anymore a hundred percent, but at the same time I feel that I can`t be my Self a hundred percent. I know that it sounds crazy, it sounds...

Ananta

No, it`s funny...

Seeker

...I needed to say it, I need to say it.

Ananta

So, what is the impression that all of us should have of you, according to that voice, what is the impression?

Seeker

[Laughing] Well, for example, that I`m an enlightened genius, something like that...

Ananta

[Laughing]...enlightened eccentric genius...

Seeker

[Laughs] Yeah, of course...my God, I don`t know, Father...

Ananta

Very good. Thank you for the courage to share that, it`s very good. But, I already consider you more than that, my dear.

Seeker

Thank you [laughs].

Ananta

I cannot step down. I know in my heart that you are God Itself. And God is the greatest artist I`ve ever met. [Laughter] Guruji [Sri Mooji] said at one point – but that`s very beautiful what we are sharing – Guruji actually said at one point, that sometimes when I look at all of you, he said, it looks as if I`m telling you something very terrible about your Self. But I`m [inaudible] saying to you that you are God, and you are saying 'But, I`m little old me, but think better of this me'. But I am saying to you 'You are God' – no? But you want to take yourself to be little old me, but you want to be a special little old me. You see? And this is the nature of the human condition, that I am actually saying that we are One, we are one Being, and I`m not just saying it conceptually because I read it somewhere. I see that it`s true, and you are God Itself. You are God Itself.

Seeker

I feel like I`m trying, but I can`t let it go, because if not...I don`t know...I know that it`s just a...'I know, I know, I know...' [Laughing] How many things I know [laughs ironically]. I know everything, oh my God...[Laughs]...I am sorry...

Ananta

No, it`s very good. It´s very beautiful. What you`re trying to say is that you realize that all of these notions can just be the mask, and actually you`re also discovering that it is the fear of letting go of this identity, in your case it is artist, in another case it would be something else, in another case it would be something else, and all of us can have these primary identities and the mind will always tell you that 'Without this, what are you? What do you have? What security is there? Suppose, all of this Satsang and about the Self, and God is all hocus-pocus, nonsense – then, what are you lee with? So, at least, hedge your bets somewhere,[Chuckles] at least have a backup plan'. It`s a compelling story, I`m saying it in a light way, but when it comes from the mind, it can be quite compelling, that 'Without this – what if you`re not God, actually? What, if you`re actually just this body-mind? What, if actually you`re just this body-mind? And without the artist body- mind, what are you?' [Pauses] Is the body the artist?

Seeker

No.

Ananta

So, who wants a certificate – what is it? 'Exceptional, enlightened, eccentric artist`s certificate'? [Chuckles] Whom should I give it to?

Seeker

I don`t want it [Laughing].

Ananta

I know, I know, just poking at the mind, my dear. Remember the laughter when it proposes the same oppressive idea again. It`s good to laugh at it, because once we see it is a laughable notion then it is not so oppressive and when Satsang gets over and the proposal comes from the mind, you remember that we laughed at it. [Silence] I`m very glad you`re able to share all this. It`s helpful for everyone, you see, because everybody has their artist somewhere.

Seeker

It`s not only about being an artist, it`s a lot of ideas...

Ananta

Enlightened, musician, rock star…

Seeker

[Laughing]...Good partner, good...I don`t know...

Ananta

[Laughing] Fill in the blanks 'Good whatever...'

Seeker

Good whatever, yes. Good disciple, of course [Chuckles]... Thank you, Father. I don`t know what to say right now, but...Thank you.

Ananta

Just whatever shape the mind is proposing to you, whatever shape the mind is proposing, the highest sounding shape. Even the shape which I said, that you are God Itself, even that can be taken as a shape. You see? But, whatever shape it is proposing, your acceptance of that shape for your Self is always a step down, it is never a step up. Always a step down from your Reality.

Key Teachings

  • Identity such as being an artist is not inherently real—it only seems so when you take yourself to be the limited body-mind creating those outcomes
  • The mind tells compelling stories like 'without this identity, what are you?' but seeing these as laughable proposals disempowers them
  • Accepting any shape or identity the mind proposes—even 'enlightened' or 'God'—is always a step down from your true Reality as the Self
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From: The Guidance Received Independent of Mental Interpretation Is Your Intuition – 18th June 2021