Subtler Than the Intellect is Your Self

Okay, where is the lack of clarity?

Because that's exactly what we are speaking of. Someone said, ‘gloriously confusing’ sweet statement, ‘gloriously confusing’ and what are you trying to do? Understand that!

Don’t try to fit it there.

I am seeing that you are. [Chuckles] You can’t struggle unless you are there.

That’s all in the wrong playground, no? How do you know yourself now? You said something very interesting, you said, ‘The way I know myself now’ and then you went to comparison, ‘It's like this, it is like this.’

Don’t draw a parallel, just tell me directly - How do you know yourself now?

No, no, you don't need that. Give that ‘Self-knowing without reference’ a chance before we start trying to bottle it up and understand it. To remain open is that. That's all it is.

Hmmm… [Chuckles] It’s just the yearning to understand, to make it clearer, which is not the objective. I'm not trying to make it clearer. I'm trying to take you away from that zone where things can be blurry or clear. It doesn't matter, because that's all conceptual.

Don't understand it.

That I know, you don't have to tell me that. [Chuckles] I am trying to give you the rehab medicine. I know what the addiction is. (Speaking with hands folded prenetnding] ‘I am not the addition speaking right now, I’m just talking about the addiction and how much it can be… you know.’ [Laughs] I do recognise the voice of this addiction. The addiction itself can try to gain mastery over the addiction, by trying to understand it.

No lee, no right, no back, no forth.

No, no, no… time, no always, no tomorrow. No, not buying. [Laughter in the Sangha] Addicted to the idea of what is my final conclusion, whatever I understood. Because we feel like that is progress. But this kind of progress is mythical, the conclusive progress! Your pure insight in that moment is beautiful but when you try to bottle it up into notions, into an understanding, then it becomes problematic.