Nobody Is Confused Unless They Start Using the Head

I hear this often: “But Father, we came to satsang to escape our suffering and to be happy.” I say, it’s a story. Who came? The non-existent cat came to satsang?

Don’t try to make it into an understanding. You see, when you say ‘understanding’ — correct me if I’m wrong — but when you’re saying, “That understanding is there sometimes,” that means that we interpret it in that way sometimes: “Yeah, there’s no doer, there’s no experiencer even.” You see, like this.

Exactly! So, this is the primitive Instagram, you see. The primitive Instagram [chuckles]. You’re having the experience of the Self [with a serious voice says] “I better capture it, [chuckles and holds up his hand as if taking a picture with his phone] otherwise how will we know we had it? Yes, yes, right now, no doer, no experiencer, no me, no desire, none of the 3D ego is there, no duality, none of this is there.” So, what happened? We’re looking at the beauty of our own magnificent Self but suddenly we try to capture it, you see, then it can feel like it got blurred again in the thin layer of concepts. You may think it’s very big, but it’s just like all the Masters have said: One speck of dust can spoil our vision, one finger can block the view. So, like that. So, don’t try to understand it; what will you do with that understanding? [Silence] If you understood, you already know there is no doer, there is no me, there is no desirer and there is no duality. You know, all of us have heard this, we have the bundle of concepts already; how is it helping? So, by changing what is your primal experience, non phenomenal, into a translatable mental understanding is, actually, without realizing, an attack on it. Sometimes it can sound like I’m going too far with it, but actually that’s what it is. To try and capture the Self in a bundle of concepts and to say, “This is what I’ve understood about the Self,” is actually just an attack — it’s a mind attack. The mind attacks you in this time and says, “Come, come, come, I’m telling you, I’m telling you, come don’t look there, come, I’m telling you. This is how it is. You wanted non-desire, you wanted non-doer- ship, I’m giving you, I’m telling you.” Forget it.

So, is there an ‘after the seeing’? [Silence] Try to be after the ‘seeing‘ — like be in a moment where the ‘seeing’ is not there, and then we can discuss what happens after it is seen. [Pauses]

But did you come after the ‘seeing‘ — the ‘seeing’ is gone and now the space is left, like that? [Chuckles]

So, again, these are all just tricks of the mind to put this, which is beyond time, beyond space, into a temporal and spatial context and say, “This is what happens to ‘me’ - without saying the words - this is what happens to ‘me’ once I see it; then I am quite open and I don’t know anything.” You see. So, in this voice, are you representing yourself as God, as the Self, or what?

(Nods assent) You see, these are just the same tool kit of the mind. It will say, “Good job, good seeing, now I’m feeling very open.” But what after, before? Doesn’t exist. [Pauses] Try to push the seeing away, don’t be aware for a moment, and tell me what happens after it goes. [Silence] So, don’t let the mind make a time-bound experience out of the timeless Self. It just always is. And, it cannot be spoken about.