Let’s Play the Game of True Recognition

You’ve been suffering from that?

How do you know you are not?

That’s it, that’s it [Ananta Sangha Smiles] that’s the right answer. Before you think you are as Sage-y, as the greatest Sage who has ever lived; before you think and even if you think and after you don’t believe what you think, you continue to be as Sage like, as the greatest Sage who has ever lived. So, the only question is to take this interpretation of what Is; to be real or not take it to be real. Ultimately, that is the only thing. Are you taking these limiting notions to be true about you or are you not taking them to be true? And towards that, the best thing that can help is like an experiment that we did at the beginning of the Satsang, to find out that your true nature is Awareness itself. As you realise that more and more, you will see that these ideas are not about my Reality, they are not even about this body; they are about some mythical person who wants certain things and has a particular story, which has nothing to do with either the unmanifest or the manifest. And that is so strange isn’t it? This person you are trying to make it even enlightened is neither a part of the manifest or the unmanifest. It is just a fictional idea.

Yes, you can see it clearly. Where is this person? Where is this one? It’s not this body because this body is not concerned about Self-realisation. The body is just simple, innocent sitting here. You see? Who is the one that wants it?

The mind is not an entity. When this message called a ‘thought’ appears we call that ‘mind’, when it is not there we call that ‘no mind’. That is not a tangible entity that we can give something to.

There is no such one. I would give it to that one, but there should be someone like that. Show me the one that I am supposed to give it to. (Suppose I had that ability). Who are we supposed to make enlightened?

The thing is you can’t give that to an assumption, it has to be a little more tangible than that.

For example, [Holding a coaster in the hand] can we give enlightenment to this coaster, can we give it to this mike, this couch? At least it is tangible that way, we can point it and say ‘Okay that one has to become enlightened.’ What is the phenomenal evidence to your individuality? It seems to be this body but if you truly inquire into that you will see that (this body) the bodies of the enlightened Masters are all of different varieties, some can be very healthy, some quite unhealthy, it doesn’t really matter, bodies can be in whichever way, so enlightenment does not seem to have to do with the body. So who does it have to do with? Just to go along with your statement about the passport – who is the owner of the passport, who is the owner of the body, who is the owner of their life? Who is that one? Just because there is a passport with a name does it make it real?

Yes and God is never unenlightened. So, God has no trouble. Who else?

Where is the separation?

Ok, let me give you a tip that will make this journey much simpler. I will give you a tip and if you invite that it will make it a lot simpler. The mind will propose some problem to you. The mind will propose various resolutions to those problems as well. You stop playing that game of finding problems from the mind and resolving them in the mind. In your Being there is no such thing as a problem. In your Being there is nothing left incomplete, there is no lack of anything, there is no separation of anything. And the best part is it’s not difficult. How far under the ground do you have to dig to be able to breath?

Exactly and if you dig and you try to go underground your breathing will become seemingly more difficult. Just the same way, how can you be your full Being, fully enlightened, full of light? Digging is not going to help you.

The better question to ask instead of ‘why’ is ‘who’, there is no real answer to ‘why’. Because there is no such thing as cause and effect ultimately. If you find a reason, you can only put that reason in your head. So, I want to stop playing that game of reasoning. Let’s play the game of true recognition - Who are you? Not ‘why’ but ‘who’? And you can approach it like we were approaching earlier as well: you can say, I’m suffering because I’m not self-realised’ - who is the one that is not realised? Just inquire into that. That is more than enough. Let’s produce the one, like Guruji [Sri Moojiji] says, bring that one in the witness box.

Don’t rely on a concept (if you go digging…) the original example was that, if you want tomatoes don’t go digging for potatoes. If you want the Truth and you are relying on a concept, both cannot go together. What is True when you are not relying on any concept?

It’s not a rare problem. That’s why I’m attacking all concepts, including the spiritual concepts.

Throw everything out! Throw everything out! Guruji [Sri Moojiji] said very clearly: Don’t make tattoos out of my words, they are meant to do the clean-up job not the construction job, not the construction of Knowledge but the clean-up of ignorance!

I feel it would be nice if you can hear this recording again (this part at least) and may be not such a bad idea to do a transcript of our conversation, as I’ve given many tips to you today and that may be helpful for many to hear that.

But that’s also a concept, you see it because that’s also a concept. That nothing which is beyond the conceptual nothing where everything and nothing don’t apply. [Silence] . . .