श्रीरामSatsang with Ananta
Awareness & Attention

I don’t need the mind to talk to you

The I that is aware of all perception is shapeless, sizeless, and empty of qualities yet undeniably present as pure Awareness.

Ananta

So, we can use the same tool that I’ve been using. And on the screen in front of you, you probably see this hand, no, you probably see this hand being raised? So, how do you know that it is you that is aware of this hand?

Seeker

It’s just a hand.

Ananta

Yes,how do you know that it is you that is aware of the percepHon that we call the hand?

Seeker

There’s no thinking about it. For me, it’s just a hand. There’s no definiHon about it.

Ananta

Well, the hand we can say ok, because its paZern recogniHon, we see these five fingers, something recognizes hand is clear, seeing is clear, because it is not smelling or hearing or tasHng, it is seeing, so we can disHnguish between the types of percepHon . So, that it is seeing of the hand is clear, it is not smelling, tasHng. So that percepHon that it is seeing is clear, but the ‘I’ which is aware of this percepHon, how is that clear? And take your Hme. We have all the Hme. If we spend the whole Satsang on this, it is fine, you see, it is fine, because this is the main point, the only point that I’m trying to convey. [Silence] How is that ‘I’ recognized? It is I that is aware of this percepHon, that which we call hand. It doesn’t have to be hand, it can be face, it can be voice, it can be anything. Maybe I can clarify a bit more. So, we can say, on one end of aZenHon, is the content, is the percepHon, on one end of aZenHon is what we are seeing. We see it, we perceive it. Who is on the other end of percepHon? How do you know it is you?

Seeker

It is like, behind this physical body.

Ananta

Where? Where behind?

Seeker

Behind. It’s like a very small seeing.

Ananta

Is very small?

Seeker

Very small and subtle. This is what I experience.

Ananta

It’s ok. We are just looking together. So, is it small in terms of size? Or how is it small? Subtle in what way?

Seeker

It is like, not obvious.

Ananta

Ok, we’ll look at that also. I have a sense of what you’re saying, but actually you may look at it as the most obvious, in a few minutes. In a few minutes, you may look at it as the most obvious. Now, we are saying subtle and small, because we are not able to find a quality, or an aZribute, to this Self, isn’t it?

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

But even to be subtle, it means to have a quality, isn’t it? Even for something very subtle, like there is some subtle music, that means it has some notes which are very sHll and beauHful, you know, very melodic in some way. So, is your Self in that way subtle, it has some quality, but it is very minimal?

Seeker

Like the wind, like its floaHng, like transparent. Like that.

Ananta

Don’t imagine anything for now, just see, just look. That which is aware of percepHon, does it have any quality, even the subtlest quality?

Seeker

It feels like there is like a feeling. It has to be felt. And it becomes confusion.

Ananta

Even that is perceived, no? Even this feeling, which is that, maybe the thought is coming saying ‘But something has to be experienced’ and some feeling of some constricHon or something is being felt.

Seeker

I feel blocked, because I’m talking to you directly.

Ananta

Don’t worry at all, even that block is perceived, so it cannot really block us. Even that block is something that you perceive as a quality, of block-ness. Even that quality is perceived. How are you aware of that? That which is aware of block is you. You see?

Seeker

No. [Laughing]

Ananta

Your mind is stuck. Your intellect is stuck and is probably fighHng back. You see, is probably fighHng back.

Seeker

It is like shut down.

Ananta

Yeah, let it shut down. Let the mind fully shut down. I don’t need the mind to talk to you. I don’t need your mind to understand what I’m saying. Take a minute, take your Hme. [Pause] There’s really nothing you have to do. There’s nothing you have to do. You don’t have to solve this. I’m doing it for you. Okay? You don’t have to do anything, you don’t have to get it right or wrong, nothing, just listen, that’s all. Simply listen. Even if the mind is saying, ‘Oh, there’s a block, I can’t even hear you’, don’t worry, even that I will deal with, you see? The quesHon is actually very simple, you are hearing this voice right now, isn’t it?

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

Yes, so this voice is recognized. How is it recognized that it is you that is hearing this voice? Does this you have any quality? Any shape? Any size?

Seeker

Actually I cannot define it.

Ananta

You cannot define it, you see? You cannot define it. It does not have a quality or a shape or a size, none of this it has. And yet, we call it ‘I’. It is so natural for us to call this I. This which is shapeless, size less, we call it Awareness, we call it Brahman and we call it I. So simply.

Seeker

Yeah, yeah [Laughing] we make it complicated and all is like accessories and everything.

Ananta

Yes, so no complicaHon is needed at all. So simply, the shapeless, size-less Reality, is clear that it is I. I am aware of this percepHon. I cannot locate this I. What are we struggling with, we are struggling to find a locaHon of it or some quality to it because that is the only way the mind will keep quiet. You say, ‘Ah, here is this glorious being, I looked inside and here is this angel. Here are the wings of this angel.’ And we say: ‘Aaah, I found my true Self’, you see? The mind is waiHng for some sort of experience like that, but when you are looking, you don’t find anything like this, it’s so simple. Empty of all quality and yet undeniable. Because it is empty of all qualiHes and yet it is undeniable I am aware. This is the only thing in the world that we can say this way, otherwise, everything else except the Self needs a quality for you to say that it exists. Are you with me?

Seeker

Yes.

Ananta

For everything else…again we will use the cushion. Is there a cushion in front of me?

Seeker

I see it.

Ananta

Yes, you see, because you perceive the quality. You perceive the quality, shape, size, color of it. That’s why you say it is there. But your Self you do not perceive. And yet you can confirm it. It’s the most amazing discovery. You do not perceive it. In fact, whatever you can perceive is just a manifestaHon of that Self. And yet, it is so clear, nobody is confused, you see, nobody is actually confused. You are not confused that somebody else is perceiving this hand, no? It is clear to you that it is you. So this Self Knowledge is so natural. But it is impossible for the mind. And if you try to put this Self Knowledge, which is so intuiHvely present, if you try to force it in your mind, you will cry. That is the reason why we cry. Because we are trying to convert that which is so simply intuiHvely known and we are trying to make either a perceptual experience of it, or we are trying to understand it here [poinHng to the head], but we can’t. So let go of trying to perceive anything. And let go of trying to understand anything. For just a moment. And in that moment, you are full of Self Knowledge.

Seeker

From here [poinHng to head] it’s like more aZachments.

Ananta

Yes, yes, exactly. More confusion. More mental knowledge. You see? All of these things, which you don’t need any more. [Pause] Now there is only one thing that can get in your way. Only one thing can get in your way and that thing is, when you try to sit and your mind will say, ‘Okay, so what happened for you? How did this help you?’ And I call this spiritual selfishness. We wanted something which is beyond me, and when we go beyond me, the mind says: ‘What did I get? How did that help me?’ So don’t bother with any of that. It is not meant to help me. It is just Truth because it is true. It is just God because it is God. Not because God is going to help me. Or Truth is going to help me. God for God’s sake. Truth for Truth sake. Then you cannot get back into the play of the mind. You cannot get back into the ego.

Seeker

Thank you! Thank you!

Ananta

So welcome! So welcome! Very happy! So much love!

Key Teachings

  • The 'I' that is aware of perception has no quality, shape, or size, yet is undeniably present as pure Awareness
  • The Self cannot be found through perception or understanding - it is already intuitively known and is empty of all qualities
  • The mind cannot grasp the Self; simply let go of trying to perceive or understand - just listen
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From: Coming to the End of This Falseness - 27th May 2019