How Would the Non phenomenal Oscillate

And, what do you find?

And who is aware of that space?

It’s actually simpler than that, no? Because I ask the quesHon, “What do I find without my mind?” and I see that it’s all just space, just space. And the mind is trying some tricks and all, that’s not important, so you find it’s all just space. You find that it’s all just space, isn’t it? Now this you that finds that it’s all just space, remains untouched by even the spaciousness of the space of Being. [Silence] Even untouched with even this. So it’s so simple that this is your own discovery, you were saying that, “I see that it’s all just space.” Isn’t it? So how do you know that it is ‘you’ that sees it?

You don’t know how and yet you do. [Smiles] You don’t know how because we are used to tradiHonal ways of finding things, we are used to percepHve ways of finding things so when it has a quality we say, “Ah, I confirm this.” Or when something is clear in our heads, “Ahh, this is how this works” or “This earth is rotaHng around the sun” or something like this, then we feel like – Oh, we got it. But this discovery that it is ‘I’ that is aware even of the space of Being, this doesn’t have these means, we can’t use these tradiHonal means to have that discovery. It’s just a more pure, more simple, it’s intuiHve, it’s just known, like that. And if we don’t make any other phenomenal reference to our Self, a limiHng reference to our Self then we just remain in that apparency of Self recogniHon.

Is there definitely? [Laughs] Is there definitely? How would the non-phenomenal oscillate? [Silence] If you are non-phenomenal in Reality, you see, if you are non-phenomenal in Reality; then how would you oscillate? Only objects can oscillate, you have to be objecHve in some way to oscillate, so the oscillaHon may happen in the realm of phenomena but that which is Aware of all of this percepHon of phenomena cannot oscillate, it’s not in Hme and space. So the reference that we make will oscillate, so let it oscillate Hll it becomes fully Hred. Let the reference that we make fully oscillate and get confused and everything so that Consciousness gives up on that thing, that idea. But when we say ‘Are you aware, how do you know that it is You that is aware?’ It is just so natural. For that Awareness or that Self, oscillaHon and not oscillaHon does not apply to that. But the mind will give us these carrots which are sweet no, in a way and say “Ah, I have a conclusion about your condiHon, there is definitely oscillaHon.” And it can feel like “I know what my next project is, this oscillaHon has to go down.” This oscillaHon has to reduce, you see? But that is not it. That’s back to making objecHve references to our Self. [Pause] It can seem a bit overwhelming for a bit but it’s okay. I’m here, I’m here with you and Guruji’s [Mooji Baba] Grace is there with you.