How Do You Know?
Your true state cannot be known through mental evaluation - only through the silence of pure Awareness, which is already complete, free, and worthy.
I said, How is it going?
[Inaudible]
It’s a trick quesHon.[Chuckles] it’s a trick quesHon because where will you go for the answer to that? With what can we make a true report? ‘How’s it going? How is it going?’ Mind is constantly going to present to you, this is what your report card is. This is what it is. But, does it know anything? Does it know anything?[Silence] Even a quesHon like, ‘How is it going?’ or ‘How are you?’ How can we make a true report about that? With what device do we have at our disposal which can clearly tell us, this is the current state. And in that device who must we be? Who can report on the true state of Consciousness? and the true state of Awareness? And there’s nothing wrong with conversaHon. Of course, I’d love to meet all my kids. I’m happy to hear what you have to report about and how you think you’re doing. But, really the whole theme of Satsang has been, What is that device, which can give us true knowledge? With what can we conclude, this is what is happening, this is how it is going for me? Do we have that mechanism? And if we have that mechanism, then, is that the mechanism that we are using? [Silence] I asked one child like this. He was si^ng here. I said something like this and then he said, ‘But then, there’s nothing lee to say?’ Your mind may react that way. Hey, but then you’re just like telling us to shut up. But I’m not, I’m not at all. Because, we may have the belief that only the head can move the mouth but I noHced that the heart can move it just as effecHvely, if not easily, if not in an easier way. [Silence] All of this is too absurd? or …[Chuckles]
Oh, it's okay. It’s good. It’s maybe good to hear that before going straight into speaking because very quickly, if a liZle kind of hiccup or a moment of aZenHon going and it feels a bit like ‘oh, oh It’s i’m lost’ or something this sort of Thing.
Let’s take this is an example. Let’s say you were going to say, ‘But I feel so lost’. I would say today, because that’s the mood I’m in, how do you know? How do you know?
It’s just a thought. Yes. Just um… yeah.
So, What is your true state then? If that ‘You are lost’ is just a thought. Yes, very good. So, it can be discarded. Now, how will you report on the truth about yourself? [Pause] Just like how I share Satsang. [Chuckles] Just like how I share Satsang. [Pause]
Maybe I can say sHll something though. I did relate a bit to the previous conversaHon some parts of this. But, it isn’t not an experience. But just a revealing. More like this, I just ‘Am’. All these thoughts are coming and going. They are not me. This ‘I’ one is in none of it. For the past day and a bit,it’s been like this. Like very just, anything can say anything. A few liZle subject areas get.. some like poor maybe. Just recently something then, a bit pully, and then now it’s gone into this uncomfortable like place. A bit like this- where you’re aware that it’s not. What it is, it wasn’t like this before…it feels
So, I’m happy to hear that. So much openness is there. Now, even this is just the old trick of evalua%on. So very good. Now, that something comes [Makes a hissing sound] don’t worry about it. You’re not evaluaHng. You just conHnue not evaluaHng. Because if you allow the mind to convince you that, ‘Okay. Now, very good, very good. But now, this much is lee. This is sHll lee’. How do you know?
These areas are what pull you. But, “Why? why? Maybe you believe something or what have you put into this? Why did i do it?” All these.
Well. I’ll give you a set of Hps. But, you’re not to use them again like I said last Hme. Not to use them to judge yourself in any way or you’re doing it badly. You cannot do them badly. Okay? So the %p is, the minute there is a ‘Why’ ques%on, forget about it. ‘Why’ is mind. Just forget about it. The other Hp is, ‘If it needs some effort, it needs some %me’, forget about it. If something is inviHng you into effort, conceptually, body can make effort, that’s no problem. If something is inviHng you to conceptual effort, forget about it. This term seems effecHve, ‘conceptual effort’? If something is invi%ng you to think more, forget about it. So, if something is saying, ‘You need the answer. Without that you’re not free. You’re not complete’, forget about it. All these Hps, Don’t forget about it. [Chuckles]
Even this one who’s like,’ you know, this isn’t true’, the reassuring voice and all of them yeah.
Forget about it.
All of them? Then it’s like ‘but there’s lingering, doub{ul concern’.
How do you know?
Yeah. It just feels familiar. Maybe like..
How do you know this is ‘lingering doub{ul concern’?
Because, it feels like…
‘It feels like, seems like’ stuff will keep us just caught up in this stuff. Just forget about ‘Feels like, Seems like’. Is it apparent like, your Awareness is? Report that which is apparent like Awareness. Like I say, ‘Are you aware now?’ Do I say, ‘Is there a lingering something doubt, something? Is it like that? Is it that apparent? [Silence] If it needs percep%on, if it needs thinking, it is not apparent like yourself. Have you noHced what happens in these conversaHons? I am saying that you’re just fine. You’re absolutely fine. Everything is fine. You are Consciousness itself. God’s presence is here. It is apparent. But what happens usually is that, on the other side it’s like, but I have a problem. I really have a problem. But, you have no problem. But, I must have a problem. And then someHmes you just take a break and think, What is my problem? What am I solving here? What are we solving? Highlight from Satsang- 12 th August 2022 How Do You Know? Time: 1:34:15-1:45:08 Link: hZps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2D-7_MgE_A Highlight: Without Your Head, What Is Your Condition? From: Trust the Silence of the Heart More Than You Trust the Holiest Words of the Mind 22nd April 2022 Link: hZps://youtu.be/7YXGUYNdDfg?t=8456 Time: 2:20:56-2:34:11
You know that every thought is just a thought. Don’t give too much value to any of these. Just a thought; it came, it went. It may come back again, it’s okay [Makes circular motion with finger].
Then there was the feeling that I am not worthy and still I am demanding.
Nobody is unworthy. Nobody’s unworthy. All of you are God. All of you are Consciousness. one Consciousness. All of us are one Consciousness. So these ideas of separation, of unworthiness, or qualification and how devoted we are, all of this is just in the mind; don’t worry. None of it is true [Smiles]. How does it matter which thought pops up? [Open and closes hand].
Yeah, but sometimes I just strongly believe in all those things and then get involved in all these things.
So, those which you end up believing in, those you can surrender or inquire into.
Only one good thing is there, okay like, there were so many things which I was not aware of on my own, like these things are inside me and those are getting revealed. And...
Yes. But, don’t say ‘revealed’ say ‘released’. ‘Reveal’ is halfway. Don’t say ‘reveal’ say ‘released’. Finished.
[Laughs] Yeah...
‘I didn’t realize so much was here, which I didn’t know. Now, it is getting exposed and it is going.’ Released; not revealed.
[Chuckles] You always make it simple [Laughs].
That is the attempt actually. That is the attempt. Because all of this spirituality, the spiritual notions...You know what are we talking about? We are talking about God, we are talking about Existence, we are talking about the Self. Now, how can any of these things be far or difficult or need qualifications? How could it be possible that there is a God who has said, ‘ No, no. Punam has to be 95 percent on the scorecard of devotion. 90 percent on the scorecard of inquiry. Only then will she pass through my door.’ What kind of God would that be? Would somebody want a God like that who is a school teacher, a Headmaster God? [Chuckles]. No it is not like that. So, God is the very simplicity of your Being, of your existence. What can create distance between you and God? What travel do you have to do to meet God? You’re right. It’s the spiritual constructs which have been given to point us to this in some way, and they have served their purpose at some level. But, now that you’re in such a direct sort of environment you can just come to the direct insight of it rather than rely on those concepts now.
Yeah. I just want to surrender at your feet. Because I get so stuck in all these things sometimes. It seems so difficult to come out of it. Then I feel so much entangled and then feel frustrated. Oh my God, I can’t do it.
And most of this is spiritual, right?
Right. Most of the time. Yes, still material is also there. It’s not that it is gone because identification is still there. But, yes, there is a little bit of an opening. Because earlier I was like one with that identification; there is some gap now.
So, will you surrender your spiritual encyclopedia to me today?
Yes, definitely. Because I am fed up with all these things.
Very good, very good. You were here when we were talking about confusion?
No, because first hour I missed. Uh, someone came and then I had to like, attend.
Okay no problem.
Then the first hour was missed.
You can hear the recording which will clarify a lot of this for us.
Yeah. Right.
All of this spiritual confusion and frustration and suffering is because of our need to draw conclusions. We need to make an idea about ourselves. But, your Self is so big, it is so broad, it is so vast, that no idea is possible to make about it.
Yeah all these things I realized and substantially most of the time I am trying to conclude, ‘Okay, okay. Fine. Now, I understand. Okay, no I don’t. Still I’m hanging on this, still I’m doing this.’ All these things, they are going on all of the time.
Very good. Now, you’ve spotted it, you see? You’re spotting it is more than enough, you see? there’s nothing else you can do but notice. Because if you start to think about it, then you will start feeling guilty, unworthy, all of that.
Yeah it is. It goes on, it’s not that it doesn’t. But, sometimes I start and then what happens, like, I start thinking of thinking. You know ‘I am thinking again...’
Exactly [Laughs]. Thinking about thinking is meta-thinking. Better thinking is just thinking also.
Yeah. Then there is like Awareness again, ‘I’m thinking of thinking’. That’s like a circle. Again and again I am into that and I feel like I’m actually roaming round and round and nothing else is happening.
Without your head, what’s happening?
Yeah. Sometimes there is a doubt also, like you actually...
[Puts hand up in stop-motion and chuckles] My Dear, let’s try together, okay? Right now, without your head, what is your condition?
Actually, nothing. And I cannot make it out for...
Fast, that was too fast. Slowly. There’s no rush. Don’t worry who’s watching, what’s happening, nothing. Just take your time. Now, again- open and empty, fresh, fresh, fresh. Empty, empty, empty. The blackboard is all clean. Now, let everything come and go. Everything come and go, it is fine. Now, if there is a fragrant report from your Heart, which is conveying your condition, you can share that. Otherwise, trust the Silence more [Pause]. S; Nothing is coming.
Take your time. Don’t worry.
Actually, here I feel most of the time I just go blank.
That’s right. The whole theme in some way of today’s Satsang is, ‘Trust the silence of your Heart more than you trust the highest words of your head.’ [Pause] You see? Even the silence of the Heart is worth much more than our highest conclusion in the head.
Here, doubt comes. Like, I have numbed the feeling and I have numbed everything. And that is why I am not feeling anything.
So, that is all in the head, no?
It all comes...
So, let it come. We are not bothered about what is coming in the head. We’ve spent enough time worrying about that. Now, let it happen. Whatever is going on in the head, don't worry. It is like traffic on the road. You don’t have to count how many red cars, how many blue cars, it doesn’t matter. Traffic is flowing, let it flow. Just become open and empty like that... And then tell me what your Heart is saying, if anything at all. [Pause]
Nothing is coming. It’s just that I feel it is incomplete.
Yes, but that’s not your Heart’s fragrance, no?
No. Maybe I’m searching for the feeling of completeness because those glimpses gave me that feeling. Maybe I’m searching for that feeling...
Evaluative tendency of evaluating is also in the mind. The Heart is not looking for some experience and saying this.
No. Actually there is nothing like that, there is nothing. It is not looking also and it is not searching. But, these things are coming up. And then I get confused, and no, no, I am still doing something wrong.
Don’t look for any satisfaction in the mind. Don’t look for any conclusion, some final idea. Let the mind be confused, don’t worry.
Why do I feel stuck all of the time? Like it’s just, there is a wall and I’m not able to go beyond that.
Yes. Because the mind proposes this to you. In reality it is impossible to be stuck. Because ‘stuck’ implies that you have to go somewhere. You see? Only if you have to go somewhere can some obstacle come and you get stuck, no? Now, if you didn’t have to go anywhere only, it is your reality, it is Reality itself, then there’s no notion of being stuck.
Maybe these things are glued in my tasting. And I feel like I’m doing everything wrong. And that I am not honest and all of that.
You can smell this voice? You can smell this voice from the head?
Yeah. That’s clear now. Earlier I couldn’t recognize. But, now I can see it.
Very good. That itself is so beautiful. Because most of humanity doesn’t even realize that the voice in their head is not their voice.
Okay. Yes...
For one who can recognize that this is not fragrant, is not coming from my Heart, it is smelly, that in itself is a great gift.
Yeah. Immediately position shifted actually.
Don’t track yourself, my Dear. [Laughs]
[Laughs]
You don’t have to be policemen of spirituality. (Inaudible 2:32:50) Just open and empty.
Sometimes I just feel I am not open and I am not empty...maybe this is also head. I need to say this.
Not needed. Not needed. Don’t judge yourself in any way.
Yes. Thank you, Father. Thank you so much.
Very good, very good. Everybody is fully worthy, fully deserving, fully here. God is their very presence. There is no exception to this rule. There is nobody’s house where God is not living. There is nobody’s Heart which is empty of the presence of the Lord. All is very good. All is very good.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Key Teachings
- The mind's reports about your state (like 'I feel lost' or 'I'm stuck') are just thoughts - they are not true knowledge of what you are
- Only Awareness itself can report truthfully on your condition - ask 'How do you know?' to see through mental evaluation
- Trust the silence of your Heart more than the highest words of your head - let the mind's traffic flow without engaging
From: How Do You Know? - 12th August 2022