How Do You Know?

Not so clear in the last part, who wants to go beyond this?

You want to go full, full? Yes.

But pause, let’s pause.

Pause.

Yeah, just pause, pause there for a moment. To be able to say that ‘I want to go anywhere’ to be able to say, ‘I want to go fully, I want to partly. I want to go this much or I want to go this much’ you must have a locaHon, isn’t it? What is your locaHon? From where to where do you want to go? What is the starHng point? Now, if I told you that ‘your starHng point is the ‘fully’ you are looking for, then?’

In a way what I am saying is ‘Where are you now and first if we can decide where you are now then I can tell you how much more you have to go.’

Where is this here?

But ‘here’ means what? Here means, here as the body? Or here as the room?

So let’s go really slowly, yes? Because I feel like this will be helpful for everyone. Now, in your percepHon, there is a percepHon of somebody, you see some hand, you see some feet, you see the body, now how is that in all of this percepHon you take yourself to be some of the percepHons, which is the one, these feet, why not all of them?

Okay,[Smiles] that is the Advaita defense. Okay, but what I am saying is that ‘we have been taught to do this and this is what condiHoning is, this is what condiHoning is. We were taught as children ‘this is my head, my hand, my feet’ and that’s okay because that is needed at that point, this is fine. But the thing is that this was not natural to us. I have shared this story oeen when I was teaching my son and I would say ‘where is your head?’ Many Hmes he would point to my head because he didn’t yet have this idea of ‘my head and ‘your head’. But this was taught to us. But it was not natural to us. So when you say that ‘I am here’ it is natural for you to take yourself to be here as the body. In your naturalness, the body is just a set of percepHons, a set of sensaHons that you are experiencing. We can say that ‘in your hear-ness, all of this sensaHonal phenomena is being tasted. So…the starHng point of ge^ng to that ‘fully’ is not starHng off badly no? We have to start off in Truth so that we can end up in Truth. Isn’t it? Because if we start in the false, if we start with the wrong idea then we will only end up with the wrong idea, isn’t it? So let’s keep the desHnaHon aside for some Hme about ‘where we need to go?’ Let’s keep it aside for some Hme and let’s first clarify ‘where are we right now?’ and how do we clarify this? It is very simple. You remain with your pure percepHon without any labelling, don’t label anything, just see, just perceive. Now, where are you? [Silence] (Are you saying something? If you are saying you have to un-mute (zoom mike))

ConvicHon takes Hme.

But convicHon takes Hme, it takes Hme.

Here [Clicking of figures] right now, here, here, where are you right now? Without giving Hme to convince, just here very naturally, where are you? I can keep doing this [Clicking of figures] if it helps. [Smiles]

Yes, but not as the body anymore no? But, not as the body anymore.

Because to take yourself to be the body you need the Hme to idenHfy, you need a moment at least, ‘Ahh, where am I?’ ‘Ahh, ahh, yes, I am in the body’ you need that thought construct. Without that you are free. That ‘fully’ that you want to get to is your starHng point.

So that’s why I say ‘You have never lee the desHnaHon.’

So you say ‘All I need to do is to stop believing anything that the mind is saying, everything that the mind is saying, I just need to stop believing.’ But is this itself not a belief?

So start with this one, don’t believe this one.

Either ‘let it go’ which means to surrender or enquire ‘who is the one that needs to stop believing?’

Just enquire ‘who is the one that needs to stop believing?’ or if you can just trust, then just trust, you don’t need it. You don’t need any idea.