How Do You Know?

Not so clear in the last part, who wants to go beyond this?

You want to go full, full? Yes.

But pause, let’s pause.

Pause.

Yeah, just pause, pause there for a moment. To be able to say that ‘I want to go anywhere’ to be able to say, ‘I want to go fully, I want to partly. I want to go this much or I want to go this much’ you must have a location, isn’t it? What is your location? From where to where do you want to go? What is the starting point? Now, if I told you that ‘your starting point is the ‘fully’ you are looking for, then?’

In a way what I am saying is ‘Where are you now and first if we can decide where you are now then I can tell you how much more you have to go.’

Where is this here?

But ‘here’ means what? Here means, here as the body? Or here as the room?

So let’s go really slowly, yes? Because I feel like this will be helpful for everyone. Now, in your perception, there is a perception of somebody, you see some hand, you see some feet, you see the body, now how is that in all of this perception you take yourself to be some of the perceptions, which is the one, these feet, why not all of them?

Okay,[Smiles] that is the Advaita defense. Okay, but what I am saying is that ‘we have been taught to do this and this is what conditioning is, this is what conditioning is. We were taught as children ‘this is my head, my hand, my feet’ and that’s okay because that is needed at that point, this is fine. But the thing is that this was not natural to us. I have shared this story oeen when I was teaching my son and I would say ‘where is your head?’ Many times he would point to my head because he didn’t yet have this idea of ‘my head and ‘your head’. But this was taught to us. But it was not natural to us. So when you say that ‘I am here’ it is natural for you to take yourself to be here as the body. In your naturalness, the body is just a set of perceptions, a set of sensations that you are experiencing. We can say that ‘in your hear-ness, all of this sensational phenomena is being tasted. So…the starting point of getting to that ‘fully’ is not starting off badly no? We have to start off in Truth so that we can end up in Truth. Isn’t it? Because if we start in the false, if we start with the wrong idea then we will only end up with the wrong idea, isn’t it? So let’s keep the destination aside for some time about ‘where we need to go?’ Let’s keep it aside for some time and let’s first clarify ‘where are we right now?’ and how do we clarify this? It is very simple. You remain with your pure perception without any labelling, don’t label anything, just see, just perceive. Now, where are you? [Silence] (Are you saying something? If you are saying you have to un-mute (zoom mike))

Conviction takes time.

But conviction takes time, it takes time.

Here [Clicking of figures] right now, here, here, where are you right now? Without giving time to convince, just here very naturally, where are you? I can keep doing this [Clicking of figures] if it helps. [Smiles]

Yes, but not as the body anymore no? But, not as the body anymore.

Because to take yourself to be the body you need the time to identify, you need a moment at least, ‘Ahh, where am I?’ ‘Ahh, ahh, yes, I am in the body’ you need that thought construct. Without that you are free. That ‘fully’ that you want to get to is your starting point.

So that’s why I say ‘You have never lee the destination.’

So you say ‘All I need to do is to stop believing anything that the mind is saying, everything that the mind is saying, I just need to stop believing.’ But is this itself not a belief?

So start with this one, don’t believe this one.

Either ‘let it go’ which means to surrender or enquire ‘who is the one that needs to stop believing?’

Just enquire ‘who is the one that needs to stop believing?’ or if you can just trust, then just trust, you don’t need it. You don’t need any idea.