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Use Thoughts Which Still Get Belief for Inquiry - 21st Oct. 2015

October 21, 20158:1641 views

Saar (Essence)

Ananta guides the seeker to use inquiry to dismantle the false sense of doership, revealing that the 'I' who must work harder or solve problems is merely a mental construct with no real existence.

Who is this 'I' that must work harder? Can we find the one who must do anything at all?
If these are your own thoughts, do you really need a thought to communicate with yourself?
God knows how to run your business; you only ever have the 'now' to remain as the Self.

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doershipself-inquirymindidentitybeliefnowbusiness and spirituality

Transcript

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Ananta

Thank you. Then the question arises saying, 'Okay, now I find that I do not suffer without being identified, without being... so how do I now just withdraw this belief?' And you will find that when you open, after we've been in satsang for some time, we see that yes, thoughts are allowed to just come and go. As you are saying, that couldn't find that there is an identity, it still seems to be the one that the thoughts are talking to. So it could be the work identity, it could be the seeker identity, it could be the husband identity. But usually, after this pointing is clear, then you will not find that it's a real thing like it was in the past. It's a few things which still seem to hold a lot of meaning, or held a lot of meaning for us in the past.

Ananta

So when it comes like this, to take an example, the thought could be 'I should work harder.' Sometimes we find that belief comes and you are in it, easy, just trying to make something happen and push life, do things. All of this comes and gives them all, everything, to-do list is made. And then it is these kind of thoughts—use that in your inquiry. So, 'I must work harder.' Who is this 'I'? Take one that gives you... 'I must work harder.' Take a thought that usually... so who is this 'I' that must work harder? What I say is, prove me wrong and tell me how it exists.

Seeker

And a thought of this kind of state, my whole body becomes tensed, including the mind also. My thought is of work, taking my business and in all the spheres of its involvement. So at that time when I think about it, or pressurize myself to whatever, actually it is not there. It is mind becomes overactive, fear seems to come on.

Ananta

But who is the 'I' that must work harder? Because the mind will try to do everything to avoid this question also. Yeah, you'll see, it tries to deflect it. So you think, 'I must come to this point where you see that there is no doer, there is no I here to work harder.' So can we find the 'I' which must do anything at all?

Seeker

I can't find it, yet there is some belief in it without mind knowing, like...

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Ananta

Yes, but we only have the now. What happens is that the mind says, 'Okay, now, right now it's okay, I'm in satsang, it's fine, but what about when I'm back?' But you only always have the now. Whenever this is seen, that again this false doer identity took over, whenever it's seen like that, then you inquire. Say, 'Who is this I that got believed in?' Life will give you those opportunities no matter what the mind is saying. If you want it to, then it will not be that life does not give you those opportunities at all. So whenever in that moment, keep yourself there and stay alive. The 'I' that must solve the problem—who is this one actually talking like this?

Ananta

And we said that we're sitting here and then you hear this voice that, 'If you want a good lunch, then you better make sure that you start, you know, telling the cooks what you want right now.' Ah, you hear the voice. Is there a cook? No. Is there a lunch? Nobody. Yes, this is... there is a secret speaker in the room. She's saying, 'This is what you must do, this is what he has to do, this is how you must do it.' Who is speaking? 'If you don't do it, who's going to do it? My lunch is now messed up. Who wants to be successful?' I'm not saying anything wrong with success, by the way. So I'm just saying that you cannot find out who's the one that's saying that this is the way you have to do it, and who is he talking to?

Ananta

You said, 'If I don't do it, then who else will?' Whose thoughts are these? They are telling you what to do. If they are your own thoughts, do you need a thought to communicate with yourself? That doesn't sound like you need a mode of communication only to another. God knows how to run your business.

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