This is a Recognition, Not an Understanding - 13 May 2016

Oh no, what I'm saying is that I'm taking a flight, and it is apparent here. So why am I saying 'I'm going to take a flight'? From where is that? You know, that is what creates that stickiness. The reason why I am asking about doership, Father, it's the strongest. It's what keeps this 'me' alive here.

Yes, yes. This is very good. So let's look at this. This doership is what keeps the 'me' alive. That's right. Bhagwan said the only two ways: one is to surrender, which means that 'I am no longer the doer, it's all You,' which then dissolves the 'me'; or to inquire into the nature of this 'me' and see that there is no 'me'. So doership gives the 'me' life. Therefore, the two so-called methods, which are ultimately one, have been prescribed, you see. So based on your temperament, you can have one or the other or a bit of both. And the one that needs to understand all of this—there is no need to understand. Yes, yes. There is no need to understand anything, anything at all conceptually. So that is why this is not an understanding with that kind of understanding; this is more of a recognition.

So that makes the mind quiet, because the mind is the only thing trying to understand this. In this moment, other than the mind giving me a picture there, there is no idea what will happen next. Right, exactly. Yes, there might not be a next moment at all, right? And the only thing that dies is this 'me'. Yes, the only thing that dies is the one that never existed in the first place. The fantasy of the 'me' dissolves. Right, right. Only 'me' keeps you and I separate. Death, exactly. You know, the illusion of separation is only dependent on the idea of 'me'. I don't need to know who I am yet, do I?

On one level, no. With this small key from this Maya here, it's trippy, Father. Yeah, it's complete. It is beyond any trip the mind can take. There has been so much fear to die the whole life. You just don't want to die there. You know, that's the premise of life: death shouldn't happen to me. You know, to that one which actually is not even alive. Yes, I was very angry with you, Father. I know, you know, you told me that we are... I just love, I know. So did I find that you... so the mind is not needed here at all. At all. What has to happen will happen, and what cannot happen will not happen here. And I'm just watching it. This 'you', I have no idea what I'm saying.

It's not been clear what if this voice is... so there's been no hearing of any voice, you know, just whatever the voice, because I have no idea what to believe, what not to believe. Right? It's just giving so much.

It's best not to believe anything. It's funny that before I met Guruji, I used to work at his school. And there also, what happens is we had this group of friends, we would talk about these things. So one day, someone new came in. At six o'clock every evening after work, we would say, 'Okay, let's gather around coffee and we'll just talk about some of these things.' So one day I decided... and someone new came and he said... I was saying something about the voice in the head not being true. He's like, 'What? Voice in your head? Did you get it checked out?' He really is the voice itself. It was saying this, but it feels so intimate before we start looking. Yes, 'What voice in the head?' The voice is saying, 'What voice in the head?' It's like a magnet pull to it. You know, there's a pull there. That voice is just seductive. It's just so seductive.

Actually, one more funny thing happened in this group. There was one boy, a young boy. So he used to come every day and he was enjoying, enjoying, enjoying. Then one day he just exploded: 'What are you saying all this stuff? And what is this "Who am I?" What's the point? I have a sales target to get to!' You know, every day we come in here... he was like... and then something cooled off and he apologized and said, 'I'm so sorry, I don't know what...' I realized something there. He was starting to feel attacked and he wanted to stop that. And he didn't come back after that. He just... he was his last. You cannot resist what is appearing because actually, yeah, you can't avoid it. It's just as long as you know who the 'I' is, none of this can ever cause any trouble.

So this 'I' comes with a sensation, Father. This 'me', you know, this 'is me' as this real kind of restrictive, constricted quality. And it's more and more visible quite quickly as to who's speaking. I mean, I wouldn't say that, but because it only brings negativity with it. It doesn't make anything meaningful or positive. You know, the voice is just always just about 'me, me', and that's not a great feeling.

All one can do is not hear the voice of the mind. That's all. Yes, that is possible. And not hear means not believe. Yeah, yeah. Not believe. So funny, an insight from two hours ago is gone. Yes, it's just... it is only about this point there.

It is true, Father, that closer by, either there is an object that is believed in or there is just knowing of that. The object per se cannot be believed in, right? It is only the interpretation about the object that is believed, right? And then go to the second area then, when the perspective shifts, then there's just awareness of that and whatever else.

So the perspective can find the sense of separation also. The subject-object separation also dissolves. Because unless we are labeling, that has not been... no, it is actually your experience. If you see anything and there is no labeling—you're not buying the label about anything—it's already one there. You can find no 'two'. You find no distinction between the object and the knowing of it. It's better to be... it's good to be in the space of 'I don't know'. Yes, actually, because then there's no concept that comes in that space. You know, the minute you leave that space, then yes, some junk of the mind. Even who I am, I don't know. The sense of empty, yes. And also there is awareness of that emptiness.