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That Which is Central to Our Existence - 24th April 2017

April 24, 201715:0492 views

Saar (Essence)

Ananta guides seekers to stop reconciling the mind's narrative of a personal 'I' with the truth of unlimited being. He emphasizes shifting from the mind's 'why' to the self-inquiry of 'who' to recognize one's true nature.

There is no reconciliation between the mind voice and the voice of satsang; they speak of different realities.
The mind loves the question 'why,' but the path to truth is found only in the question 'who'.
The basis of the personal identity is a fiction; therefore, all its interpretations are also fiction.

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Transcript

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Ananta

What happened is that we speak in that which is and cling to our existence. We've taken that to be an entity like a person. So all this process of Satsang is just clarifying: what is it that is at the center of my existence, actually? And we've been trained and taught by our mind and those around us that that is an entity with the name which has been given to you. The path is an entity with the name that you have. Suppose it is that which is our existence, consciousness itself. That is what we are coming to see. There is nothing individual or personal truly about my existence unless I believe, unless I retain belief. And this power of belief, of course, again belongs to consciousness and therefore it seems very strong. It's a fact for some of us; we've been together for a long time yet the power of this conditioning can seem to reiterate itself over and over again.

Ananta

As this conditioning reiterates itself, if we hear this in Satsang, which is: don't listen to that one for a bit, listen to this voice. I was telling somebody the other day that it is very uncomfortable to sit on two chairs at the same time. So if you are listening both to this voice in Satsang and to your mind's voice, as if both could be true, and trying to reconcile both of them, then it becomes a painful spiritual journey. It's a struggle. There is no reconciliation possible between the mind's voice and this voice. Everything else is completely different. The message of the mind's voice is that there is an individual entity called a person at the center of this equation, at the center. Okay? And the message of this voice is that this is a monologue within one consciousness. How do we reconcile these two? That which seems to have a limited entity at the center of the equation and that which has unlimited beingness as the basic premise. Can these two be reconciled? Really, they cannot be. It is only to the extent that I am not involved in that equation.

Ananta

When the mind is saying something—the mind saying the coconut is green—we want to give it some credit. Even that is not required. Even that labeling is not ultimately required. But if you want to give it some credit, you can give it that much credit: that it can speak phenomenally. It is interpreting and decoding. But there is no truth about the reality of what I am to be found in the words of the mind. This is why it can seem like a bit of a struggle. This spiritual journey can seem like it is frustrating. We can feel like it is a struggle because you're trying to comfortably sit on a chair—the mind chair and the intuition chair—at the same time.

Ananta

Now, if it were just a question of two different belief systems—the mind has a belief system of the individual 'I' and the Master has the belief system that there is only the Divine—if this were just a belief system, then it would be a clash of belief systems with no actual recognition. The Master is not saying that I have a belief system that you must follow. What are we asking? Whether we have validated what the mind is saying about us. Have we really checked? When we pick up the idea 'I', have we really truly checked that this 'I' is true, is real? Is that too much to ask? Is that too much to ask for? If you spend our entire life with the 'I' at the center of this life, in the entire life, the 'I' at the center of this life—the 'I, me, mine, myself' over everything—'I, me, and myself' at the center of this life, then is it not a fair question to truly check: what is this?

Ananta

This is the beautiful thing we've been recognizing more the past few weeks: that the mind loves the question 'Why?' Yes, why? Why is this happening to me? Why am I not getting it? Why does nobody understand? Why, why, why? If we take the question 'W-H-Y', which is the favorite question of the mind, and somehow we change it to one alphabet, it becomes 'Y'. But if we take the good question of the mind, 'W-H-Y', the favorite question, and 'W-H-O', and put them together... for weeks we twist the question of this one. I'd like to find out why meaningful things for an individual entity are happening. Why is my life like this? Why can't I find happiness? What about the person? You can fit all our reports—I get quite a few reports every day—we can fit all our reports if you could replace all the 'Why' questions with 'Who'. Because most of our questions are about this identity, the thing at the center of this. They're saying, 'Why is this like this?' It's a basic premise and a figment of our imagination. The basis itself, the central standpoint itself, is fictional. Therefore, all the explanations will also be fiction. The basis itself is fiction, then all the explanations or the interpretations must be fiction.

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Ananta

So when we come to Satsang, actually we're saying that we are done with fiction. We want to know this to be real. Before I can know what is truly real about the world, can I know what is truly real about myself? Even before we come to these ideas of whether the world is real or not, whether it is Maya or whether it exists in a certain way, when we come to a recognition of who we are, that's great insight. We can follow the times we shared in the Satsang, but that is not primary to what is being spoken about. Primary is: what is the exact 'I am'? And this question is always super fresh. The question 'Who am I?' is always very fresh. It doesn't seem like that sometimes because the mind quickly wants a clear answer. There is no moment of self-recognition which is stale. There is no moment to celebrate or apply the question; it's all very beautiful every time it is asked. If you're using it as a tool for our own looking, then it would be impossible to be jaded with it, actually. If you go to the tool as some sort of homework, then it becomes stale. The mind's resistance comes: 'Oh, the same old stuff. For years we've been speaking about the same old stuff.'

Ananta

Can we find one moment of self-affirmation which, in the recognition itself, is not just a particular interpretation of it? The recognition itself: what are you right now? And if you don't worry about the interpretation for a bit, so as not to apply fire to a sublime experience, this limited-world experience... if something is being seen, who sees that? What is the shape? Don't use any shape. We'll say, like the school child getting off from school, 'But isn't it... I don't want to run home because it's the same home I know.' It's going to be running home. It's like that. Self-inquiry: look at it from this space of recognizing and not interpreting. It doesn't matter what they reported about it. What is your taste of your Being?

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.